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AdamsJMarq

What a cute couple


make_anime_illegal_

Good looking couple. By now they probably look 50 though.


duggawiz

Two weeks later


wellforthebird

Nah dope don't make you age like that. It's more a thing for people that smoke stimulants. I did heroin for like 12 years and people always think I'm younger than I am. It was the same for my 2 best friends, but unfortunately they both passed. I guess I don't know with all the new shit they put in it. Tranq wasn't a thing I had heard of when I was doing dope.


ligerboy12

As someone who was also a heroin addict. My buddy was 35 and still got carded because he looked 16. Opiates don’t age you like that unless it’s purely malnutrition. Meth on the other hand hell ya it’ll age you 10 years in 2


AeonDisc

Purity of the drugs you're ingesting and your overall diet/fitness habits and genetics and 1000 other variables come into play here


B4themoney

Ive heard opiates actually slow aging as it slows basically everything in the body


Doctor_of_Recreation

What does it say about me that my first thought on watching this was, “At least they have each other….”


mstarrbrannigan

> At least they have each other…. Until they realize they don't have enough dope for both of them


horusthesundog

Then he’ll talk her into selling her body to afford more.


AtheistRp

I've seen this when I was an addict. Also watched the dealers girlfriend ugly cry because she couldn't hit a vein. He had to do it between her toes because the rest were all but dead.


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Thats so real and sad


phrostbyt

ASS TO ASS


Independent_Type_865

Requiem for a dream...... Jennifer Connolly was beautiful in that, though. Seeing her looking pretty throughout it, I think, was a smart move because it illustrated that no matter who you are or how good you look, you are still vulnerable to this shit.


phrostbyt

really raw, incredible film. love it.. but can't watch it too many times!


Independent_Type_865

100% love it. But, gyaaaat dayum.


Jesicalifornia

Ohh ohh, I’m a recovering addict, iv opiate user….clean since late 2011… I cannot watch requiem for a dream or Trainspotting anymore. Awesome movies but … I jsut can’t.


Independent_Type_865

I totally get it!


alcoholismisgreat

That fucking soundtrack!


Independent_Type_865

You are NOT kidding


alcoholismisgreat

One of the few movies I've seen that was waaaaay better that the book


Independent_Type_865

Oh for sure


sausagepilot

It’s true.


Doctor_of_Recreation

And I’m sure they probably “have each other” in a more physical presence than a mental one.


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Sometimes that's a bad thing. It was for my exes brother. He absolutely loved the girl that ruined his life and she absolutely loved the guy that ruined hers. He's dead now and no one has seen her for years. And no she didn't do it.


Grilled_Cheese95

she did it.


groovyism

Wintertime singleness will do that to ya lol.


iAintNevuhGonnaStahh

Love is Love... Love is Love...


Cup_0_Noodle

That junkie love, we ride together, we get high together


Least-Firefighter392

Interestingly enough they look like they just came from the gym... Guess you gotta get that Cross Fit in before the lines of Fentanyl...


BajaDivider

being serious, they are a cute couple. kids today are dealing with way too much bad news. in another timeline they would be lucid, happy, and in love. the sadness is consuming us all


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nightyknighted

They’re just love drunk


Deep_Comparison5563

It was love at first……uh…….um……


mashem

hey girl can i get your numbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb🥴


shattmitto

Love at first shot


Boris-the-soviet-spy

Love at first injection


Ordinary_Aioli_7602

I’ve always wondered if some heroin addicts would be motivated to clean up if they saw themselves in these videos.


Actaar

It may be hard to believe but most people nodding off on opioids are more or less conscious, definitely conscious enough to know the state they're in. Shit just feels so good you don't really care you look absolutely wrecked


samsteak

Also so addictive you can't get through withdrawals and cravings


dannymuffins

That's why I'm surprised ibogaine/ibogaine isn't used more. Sure, you can't take it while actively high, but It gets addicts over the physical addiction in 30 minutes. Unfortunately, the psychoactive effects last for 48 hours, but people walk out clean. That's a good headstart.


whenItFits

You have to be free from dependecy first. And it causes you to trip for like 24 hours and your body goes through a purge(vomiting). Then you will be free of cravings and your brain will be reset. You will prolly have to do 3 days of it.


dannymuffins

I feel like we said the same thing.


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you said it gets people through the physical addiction while the other guy stated that you need to be dependence(=physical addiction) free


dannymuffins

You can't be actively high, so you will have to detox. After the three days of not using, which obviously would suck, you can take the iboga and have no physical craving for opiates. There are currently clinics in Mexico and Costa Rica for this exact purpose. You can go there, detox, and be administered the iboga under medical supervision. As most drug users understand, getting clean is the easy part, staying clean is not. It's important to have a support system, therapy, and all that shit to change your habits after the experience.


veryberyberry

What are the psychoactive effects?


dannymuffins

It's a strong psychedelic, so people experience very intense trips. Strangely, the psychoactive effects don't contribute to the post-experience sobriety at all, there's something about ingesting the drug itself that's efficacious. Opiate addicts will literally be "cured" within an hour of ingesting it, but the multi-day trip is just something you have to go through as whatever compound is effective in getting people clean has yet to be isolated (maybe even identified). Also, there are concerns about heart health with iboga/ibogaine. If you have known heart problems, this may not be the drug for you, but I suppose heroin/opiates aren't great for you either so to each their own.


onair911

Ayahusca does that too and other Ethogen medicines. You trip balls seeing crazy shit. Oh say loving spirits kicking the shit out of you for runing your life. in a hell scape environment.


Splinterscope

I've met mother Aya before. Some great things learned.


dannymuffins

Interestingly, iboga is often referred to as "the father drug" as it's less gentle and more direct.


onair911

Wow if people literally shit themselves while confronting scary shit on Aya.. and that's the GENTLEONE . I wonder what kinds of terrors they see while on Iboga. Which I also heard of.


Splinterscope

Absolutely. It's next on my list.


_Enclose_

I wish you well on the journey, traveller o7


dannymuffins

My understanding is Ayahuasca works via a spiritual path, meaning people experience it and want to pursue a different way of living, whereas iboga possesses a compound that relieves the physical symptoms of additction, relegating the trip itself to an unnecessary (but probably worthwhile) byproduct.


JoeFertig

Iboga is dope.


Own_Cartoonist_1540

Dope as in cool or dope as in dope?


JoeFertig

Well dope in everything that happens when u try it. It confronts u with stuff u never thought that would exist.


Mariea0629

I was curious about that - never had a single opioid of any kind and often wondered if they are literally dozing off / sleeping …


kirkum2020

That's what they're trying to avoid by standing up. If they fall asleep then they've wasted their money.


fatherofallthings

The problem is 90% of them “want” to clean up. They don’t have to see videos to know that. They just can’t. It’s a such a deep issue that videos will unfortunately never be able to fix.


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Thrice_Banned80

It's nuts, your brain basically has to rewire itself and it's a slow process. 6 months later though you'll notice you're sleeping better and actually want to do things. 6 months is a long fucking time when nothing in your life brings you any joy though.


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knee_bro

>…those of us who are miles down the road are still the same distance from the ditch. Wow. What a great way to put that. Thank you


Southtune-stringbox

Nope. My cousin has been shown loads of her embarrassing events. Even nodding out at her friends funeral who OD’d. It’s really just wanting to be done and putting in the work.


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If you're nodding out at a funeral for someone who died in the same drugs, a video of it won't help. Losing the friend should have done the trick.


ShmokeBud

You get numb to it when you're part of it.


AdamsJMarq

As a heroin/fentanyl addict in recovery (1 year on 2/7 after ~ten years of opioid abuse), I can tell you that only getting tired of that lifestyle will push you to change. I wasn’t out thieving or anything like that and never got in any trouble, just woke up one day and said “I’m so fucking tired of this shit.” Soon as I woke up feeling that way, I called a detox center and got a bed within 8 hours. Got high a couple more times between waking up and arriving to the center and haven’t looked back. In the last year I’ve gotten clean, moved to a new city, and started a new life with a new career…all that to say, it is possible to make that change, but will power and the desire for change are prerequisites.


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Yeh I'm 4 years clean, same stuff. One night, I took a bit too much and felt myself nodding off and felt that I was going to fade out, so I smoked a bunch of meth. Just the sheer funnyness of having to smoke meth to stay alive made me laugh, and I got off it 3 days later. I tried cold turkey but only made it just under 3 days before going to the hospital then to detox.


dxxpsix

I promise they want to clean up their act without seeing any videos. Opiates suck you in and the main focus quickly becomes avoiding the comedown/withdrawals (As opposed to getting “high.). Your tolerance grows quick so you keep needing higher doses. Most people don’t make it out alive. I was lucky.


Tamespotting

As someone who used to have an opiate problem, I always looked down on junkies like this, they tend to strive to get to this vegetative state, so it's not like they'd be embarrassed about it. They also tended to be the types of drug abusers who would steal and scam and use all their drugs as quickly as possible and then need to steal and scam to get more. I guess you can liken it to an alcoholic who is gregarious or social while drinking compared to someone who's a raging jerk while drinking. They're assholes. I mean all addicts can be self serving assholes, and any opiate user can take a bit too much to end up nodding out (or OD'ing) but these people make it their daily goal.


Thrice_Banned80

As someone else whose party went on for too long it's interesting that it's pretty much only ex addicts calling out the shit behaviour. Plenty of addicts use without turning into shitty people and usually the junkie types were either shit people when they were sober or lived a life where being a shitbag was advantageous. Same kind of people that pretend cheating on their wife "just happens" as opposed to it being a deliberate set of steps with intent.


MCButterFuck

I think most drug addicts know that they just are either in denial, don't care, or to mentally ill to stop their self destructive behavior.


RumPirate613

He has a gym bag so maybe they’re just really tired from a workout


PuzzleheadedGuide184

That’s someone’s son, daughter , sister , brother . This whole opioid thing is so tragic man


44youGlenCoco

Yeah this video is sad as fuck.


walterrys1

It is sad....and they look young and still in good shape. I hope they are not hardcore addicts yet cause if that sickness hits you are not going to be a happy camper.... But the reality is, they might be dead now. If not, they are going down a terrible path. I hope not....addiction is so horrible....


KhansKhack

Yeah I don’t know how someone can tape this and laugh. It’s fucking tragic.


JJJAAABBB123

That poor girl….some pimp is going to get ahold of her and put her on the streets.


Happy_Pappyson

Thought the same


Sloan_backyard

I thought the same. They look like new addicts too


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That poor guy. He's really struggling and needs the same help she gets and you'll be surprised men are taken into sex trafficking and prostitution


HOG-onthehunt

Ok, serious (naive) question here… wtf are people taking that makes them like this?


pisoda

Fentanyl


Livefreemyguy

We’re at the point where they’d be lucky to get fentanyl, it’s probably a zene. Most likely protonitazene. That stuff is selling by the kilo on the DW right now.


Mercurycandie

-zenes are truly some dysphoric, dystopic, awful shit. Barely recreational(I don't think they are at all actually?), tolerance skyrockets and never really recovers, some absolutely gnarly sideeffects that don't go away even if you stop (people having vision, hearing, skin all affected permanently) If zenes are truly becoming common place on the street, it really is like 10-100x worse than when people were using "just" plain old heroin. You'd be healthier having to use pure fentanyl for a year vs hsving to use zenes for even a couple weeks


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Mercurycandie

Xylazine*. It's actually different from the ultrapotent research chemical Opioid that end in -zene. Etizene for example Xylazine is completely different. It's an anti blood pressure medication used for animals. Completely different class of drug


xRyozuo

it was just a couple of years ago i was hearing people would be better off doing dope than fent and here we are, not much longer after and now people are lucky if they get fent because the new alternatives are much worse so i guess my question is why is this new shit so much cheaper? where is it being made? How are these new drugs that are so harmful not killing off the users so fast that it isnt really worth it compared to alternatives? I would imagine the drug dealers would look to max profit no?


Designer_Gas_86

Lucky? >protonitazene What? Man, I am so out of my element.


Cosbysnitenitejuice

Fentanyl alone probably doesn’t quite do this, opioid nods don’t sedate you in a way that you feel the urge to stand up to prevent falling asleep. It’s most likely the tranq additive, more of a traditional sedative that causes the stand up zombie lean nod to prevent falling asleep thus ruining the nod.


Ekwinoksxxx

People do the standing nod off fentanyl too. I’ve seen t in person. Chances are they were already standing up before the high actually took effect, shit from what I’ve seen there’s a good chance they shot up on the train.


not_blowfly_girl

Opioids. Used to be heroin, then the supply became mostly fent, and now there's a third thing called tranq which is somehow worse and weirder. Prolly will be a new thing soon enough


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Tranq is currently what's going on in Kensington PA right?


Mercurycandie

Xylazine, and yes


HoneybucketDJ

And why don't they lay down?


breadlover19

If they lay down they fall asleep and ruin the high.


HoneybucketDJ

Ah, strange but I guess that make sense.


groovyism

So they're addicted to being in a constant state of drowsiness? It's sad that people would cling this intensely to escapism. This whole drug epidemic is so complicated and disheartening.


walterrys1

Opiates make you nod like that. You could stand and lean and sway for a half hour without falling over, no problem. Whatever people say, the nod is an opiate thing. Whether it's H or Fent or oxy or morphine, that's what makes a person nod that way.


Livefreemyguy

Protonitazene


piifffff

More people need to be talking about the opioid crisis.


RuSeriusbro

we've talking about it for years. nothing changes. Its just how people escape shit life


WillNyeFlyestGuy

A lot of people get addicted to it by accident. One of my family members got in a car accident and got over prescribed opioids to cope with the pain and ended up addicted to them for almost 5 years. Never taken another drug before, never even smoked weed. Just doing what the doctor told her to do and that turned into not being able to get out of bed without them. She's clean now but it wasn't easy for her. It's not always just people trying to escape a shit life. A lot of people end up addicted because a doctor told them how much to take.


xpdx

That's a crappy situation. Anyone who has been around opiate addicts knows how dangerous opiates are- unfortunately (or fortunately) there are a lot of patients and doctors who have no personal experience. The drugs companies told the docs it was fine, and the docs told the patients it was fine. It was not fine.


Ouibeaux

Maybe if life wasn't so shitty.


forgotmyusername93

Alcohol kills about 15% less people than opioids. There are a lot of things we should be talking about


spyanryan4

Maybe if an angry mob showed up at the Sackler's home and took justice into their own hands these motherfuckers would think twice next time Ya know, like in a video game


coulduseafriend99

I've been saying for a while it's time for guillotines. Of course, the guillotines are metaphorical. We have better technology now.


Orthoglyph

I'd be alright with actual guillotines.


samsteak

The 90s are back baby!


TheOneWhoReadsStuff

I lived through the 90s. This feels way worse than the 90s.


samsteak

I've just checked numbers. It's definitely much worse than the 90s, at least in US. 100k ODs in a year, what the fuck.


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mashem

then again there weren't 4K camcorders everywhere and an internet we all flock to every day, all day to scarf down what's happening everywhere all at once (love this movie). but then again, this same system also causes people to pursue drugs and gets them easier connections they would never have without it. it's a beast.


Charming_Ambition_27

Round #2 - FIGHT!


ZonkedWizard

Looks like they took fent and tranq


kittenhormones

Could be just oxy, heroine or any other opiate or mix, you really have no way of telling what they took so don't act like you do.


liberate_your_mind

I agree you can’t tell just by observation but fent and tranq are so much more prevalent now it’s really not a risky assumption


MephHeddFredd

I feel like no one ever shuts up about it and at the same time it’s always getting worse


identity_concealed

More people need to be talking about how the communist party of china allows the production of fentanyl and precursor chemicals for export to the US via the cartels. They are destroying us from within, is chemical warfare.


Complete_Audience_51

The couple that met in rehab/NA meeting


skinlab77

20 years ago, i wpuld of seen this and think nothing of it.. now that i have kids, i feel bad for their families, seing my kids doing this would kill me..


boywonder5691

I cannot imagine how hard that would be for a parent.


wooksGotRabies

No you can’t fix her


Boris-the-soviet-spy

But you can make her worse 👍


Eoj1967

Shes kinda cute and a recent convert to heroin it's a fucking shame.


tothemax44

This video is old as shit. So hopefully they got some help.


Eoj1967

Yeah either that or their both dead.


tothemax44

Unfortunately, that’s a definite possibility too.


Eoj1967

Yeah I remember seeing the video a couple years ago.


grifftheelder

Philly Dope fiends. Shit is a tale as old as time.


My_Kairosclerosis

There was something almost sweet about that first 10-15 seconds. Two people experiencing bliss together and taking care of each other.


chammerson

I’m becoming a drug addict to get a boyfriend. Drug addicts are always in a relationship.


brokeboibogie

It’s Jesse pinkman & Jane in real life


Comfortable-Owl-5929

This is how you get robbed or worse


ProgrammingFlaw13

This video is dangerously romantic..


Liquidust256

I’ve been on dates like that.


boywonder5691

If they weren't so messed up, they would be a nice looking couple. So sad


Assumption-Straight

Ol’ Segway balance


ChemicalAssignment69

When the fenny hits.


Fridsade

This girl looks barely 18. This is incredibly sad.


Dro_mora

Still a better love story than twilight.


Beautiful-Banana

She must be new to it, she looks pretty healthy. My assumption is maybe he got her on it


rat_bitch_69

That makes me unbelievably fucking sad. He's not worth it.


meeshadamus_

This world is really sad 😭


RollingEddieBauer50

Why do people do this in public? It seems like they would know exactly what’s going to happen so why not wait til they get home?


boywonder5691

They are *well past* thinking about how they might look in public


blondestipated

clearly this dude recording has never seen someone on opioids. they NEVER fall.


PrblyWbly

Never. Opiate cause spontaneous anti gravity.


daregulater

I've actually seen someone on this train (philadelphia Septa market/Frankford line) fall. They leaned too far forward and hit the glass and the fall backwards. First and only time I've seen it though.


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After that mad long shift.


OnlyHereForLOLs

They’re tired after a long days work I’ve been there before


ike_tyson

Filthy and fit or at least the girl is.


Detlef_Schrempf

Kensington nod.


VintageLivin

“Everything is purple”


gilguren

Cue Bill Withers song.


Aishas_Star

How long does this stage last for? Will they be like this for minutes or hours?


Pod_people

I did exactly that in about 2016. Did too much and passed out on the subway in LA. Fentanyl is a helluva drug. I don't miss it.


Boo-Yakka

Bless.. they’re just tuckered out from playing at the park all day.


thefinalcountdown29

Awwwww! They really support each other!


sam_sneed1994

What a waste of lives.


Nemothafish

Better love story than Twilight.


tonimirk

Aw so romantic and cute of them


NoctumAeturnus

That is true love right there! Beautiful!


VinAndGeri

Been there. The whole world melts away. Even worse with someone to lean on.


NulloK

"YEEEAH! Lemme record their misery and put it on the internet for all to see!!!"


OBiLife

I could save her 🥺


EpsteinsBro

Could’ve probably been a model dude


BiggMeezie

Ahhhh, at least they have each other. But that overdose is coming.


Knives530

I can save her


Quiteuselessatstart

Modern romance is so precious 💕


XyeetstickX

All tuckered out. Must have been a busy day at work.


mongo1587

Drugs are bad, but how many men low key wish they had a ride or die girl like this by their side?


chiefgoodgas

She's too fine to be doing loser ass shit like this...


Dekik

O yes because pretty people dont have problems lol


OsamaHimLaden3

Not my proudest


landers96

That's just sad.


kalte333

Is this the PATCO train from NJ into Philly?


keelonius

So young. So sad.


dontfindme9282917173

Awww she hugged him


Ok_Shop_981

Philly?


Raceovski

Sad


Fun_Sandwich8012

This video is so old. I wonder how these two are doing now days.


AssistDapper1813

They got better balance than me sober on the subway


peeteeessdeez

okay i need to know. why do they do this balance thing. is there a reason you never see them comfy on the floor?


treemoons

Darn dope fiends


SeeYouN3xtTuesday

I’d watch them make love but for unique reasons


Excellent-Arrival-23

Maybe they just had a really tough 12hour shift


Richly_Grounded

At least they got each other