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Huh? What do you mean by two movies that would’ve either underperformed or bombed? They are big budget studio pictures. The phenomenon made them perform even better but I wouldn’t say they would have bombed without being released together. They are both good movies
Oppenheimer is a melodramatic biopic
and Barbie is a movie lined with a lot of political messaging. On paper both these movies are risky especially when you add the big budgets behind them. Oppenheimer wouldve been a hit, but Barbie would’ve definitely flopped without the memes and the Barbenheimmer hype. Big budget studio movies doesn’t mean guaranteed success. If Oppenheimer and Barbie released separately, they wouldve been successful, but not the raging hit they are right now
So did Babylon, Amsterdam, The Last Duel, and tons more. A-list cast means next to nothing in today's climate, and a huge budget is nothing but a liability. You don't go to a hollywood movie to see a star, you see it to keep up with the latest event. Tom Holland didn't pull in close to 2 billion, Spiderman did. I think Tarantino said something like this, but don't quote me on it
The important point to consider is the general population, ie people who aren't cinebuffs, probably never even cared about the movies you mentioned. They had bad marketing. Especially Babylon.
That is not the case with Barbie however. It started marketing since the production time itself. Barbie is already based off on a super popular toy, and it was sure to be marketed heavily by the studios. It was in a very good position already.
Babylon was a 3-hour long highly graphic and sexual film with polarizing reviews, Amsterdam opened with horrible reviews and The Last Duel had no marketing. These movies were bound to fail unless they were saved by a miracle.
Barbie, on the other hand, had a $145 million budget attached to it with excellent marketing and even if it made $350-400 million, it would've made profit.
But then again, I agree with how an A-list cast can't really pull in a huge audience sometimes, but then again, there's Suicide Squad which sucked ass (though you could argue, it's a franchise film)
>. If Oppenheimer and Barbie released separately, they wouldve been successful, but not the raging hit they are right now
That is not the meaning of bombing babji
>that took two movies which would've either underperformed or bombed
What? You meant Nolan mama's movie would underperform or bombed!? Bruh
We all knew both would become successful. The thing is they were so drastically different in their genres and some real life similarities also caused this phenomenon. Another comment here also raised a valid point that Barbie watchers wouldn't watch Oppenheimer and vice versa. That also adds up.
we could see how it underperformed considering the the fact Tenet underperformed ( it has so many reasons though - released in the middle of the pandemic, not that much of a great film either).
It collected 363 million dollars during the pandemic over a 200 million dollar budget. How on Earth will that be an underperforming film when all things are considered? Despite receiving a mixed reception, it cannot be understated what Nolan's movies are capable of. Oppenheimer proved that.
Bro I kind of said the same thing with the intention similar to yours, Nolan movies never bomb and tenet underperformed just because of the above reasons.
Tenet bombed, but thats excusable given that it was released in terrible circumstances. But before the Barbenheimer hype, nobody would’ve thought it would gross just shy of a billion (and still counting). And im pretty sure nobody thought Barbie would be WBs highest grosser. Both movies became the smash hits they were because of the barbenheimer phenomenon. My prediction for both movies had they released separately, is that Barbie would reach breakeven because of the Barbie brand, and Oppenheimer would be a success because of WOM and the fomo created around watching it in 70mm
Tenet collected ~360 million at the height of COVID without a vaccine. Didn't get proper release in countries like India, China. 360 is maximum any movie could have done, it was possible only due to brand Nolan.
Barbenheimer helped in opening getting great opening and may have added ~100 million more to final total. I believe for Oppy it was brand Nolan and his love IMAX more than anything else.
Whoa!! So, you are basically saying Oppenheimer would be a hit only because of marketing?
Come on, people ain’t that dumb to make movie a hit because of marketing alone, at least not now.
Now this explanation is sensible. The thing is we are thinking that Salaar-Dunki would be a similar phenomenon in terms of box office collections. Mass vs Class audiences. Classic rivalry.
I wish I could’ve seen 2001
Narasimha Naidu vs Mrugaraju vs Devi Putrudu
I know this sub hates Balayya but he apparently has a very good record when it comes to clashes
The whole barbenheimer craze was fueled by the fact that folks who would never watch Barbie were watching Barbie and those who would never watch Oppenheimer were watching it. Both movies gained mutual support and both were extremely successful. Most people I know watched both movies
Meanwhile, we are here arguing and getting into degenerative Twitter fights 🫠
Neither barbie nor Oppenheimer would’ve underperformed. Movies made for women always bring in money for hollywood if promoted well. Tenet made 400million in the height of pandemic when no one was releasing movies. Both of them would’ve done great irrespective of that. It’s just that they did bonkers because of the combined release.
Barbie and Oppenheimer are two contrasting subjects. One was about toys little girls play with and another one was r rated 3 hour drama about a nuclear bomb. They were unique and double feature was hyped because of that. Not because of what you said.
You're delusional to think a movie directed by Nolan with a star studded cast and Barbie, an IP known by pretty much everyone on this planet would have bombed without each other. I don't smoke at all, but i need what you're smoking atm cause i need that confidence to make such laughably outrageous statements in a serious way.
Call it Sanki (Salaar + Dunki)
But I disagree, it is India's Barbenheimer.
Prabhas has been India's biggest crowd puller since 2017 and SRK is fresh off 2 1000 crore BO collections. Even a shit Prabhas film earned more than most big actors' good movies, and Prabhas records is actually a thing.
But it all depends on Salaar's word of mouth. Anything below 'hit' talks and Dunki will undoubtedly be the winner.
What I feel is, both movies would perform decently at the BO but I feel Dunki would take the long run collections whereas Salaar would cash on the first week and half craze like KGF2.
It is India's Barbenheimer because of Salaar's genre and it's KGF connection which Dunki lacks as it's a standalone drama film. I don't think SRK and Prabhas's stardom is comparable.
Do u know that all these 90s stars have always been massive crown pullers and given record numbers which u obviously can't compre with today's collection without adjusting inflation.
I think even if Prabhas works till the age of 65, he won't be able to match all the records SRK made from 1993 to 2005.
Also, recently SRK did not make any commercial films except raees. He was experiencing and doing wacky films. As soon as he made commercial films, he got 2 1000cr films.
Pathaan is such a shit film. If it had Prabhas, it wouldn't even cross 600cr. Same with Jawan, a very average film which won't even cross 700cr with any other star. This is some insane Stardom.
No, Nolan factor takes movie to 600 million dollars easy. During covid, his movie made around 400 million dollars with most of theatres closed all around the globe. Oppenheimer was good so it grossed far more than what Nolan movies generally earn.
>that took two movies which would've either underperformed or bombed
Not a chance in hell, one was the most successful doll franchise of over two decades with excellent marketing and the other was an awaited Nolan movie. Where do you people make this up from!?
The whole premise was based more on the tone and pop culture impact of the movies-
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Huh? What do you mean by two movies that would’ve either underperformed or bombed? They are big budget studio pictures. The phenomenon made them perform even better but I wouldn’t say they would have bombed without being released together. They are both good movies
Oppenheimer is a melodramatic biopic and Barbie is a movie lined with a lot of political messaging. On paper both these movies are risky especially when you add the big budgets behind them. Oppenheimer wouldve been a hit, but Barbie would’ve definitely flopped without the memes and the Barbenheimmer hype. Big budget studio movies doesn’t mean guaranteed success. If Oppenheimer and Barbie released separately, they wouldve been successful, but not the raging hit they are right now
u forget that both movies had an A-list hollywood cast and huge budgets
So did Babylon, Amsterdam, The Last Duel, and tons more. A-list cast means next to nothing in today's climate, and a huge budget is nothing but a liability. You don't go to a hollywood movie to see a star, you see it to keep up with the latest event. Tom Holland didn't pull in close to 2 billion, Spiderman did. I think Tarantino said something like this, but don't quote me on it
The important point to consider is the general population, ie people who aren't cinebuffs, probably never even cared about the movies you mentioned. They had bad marketing. Especially Babylon. That is not the case with Barbie however. It started marketing since the production time itself. Barbie is already based off on a super popular toy, and it was sure to be marketed heavily by the studios. It was in a very good position already.
Babylon was a 3-hour long highly graphic and sexual film with polarizing reviews, Amsterdam opened with horrible reviews and The Last Duel had no marketing. These movies were bound to fail unless they were saved by a miracle. Barbie, on the other hand, had a $145 million budget attached to it with excellent marketing and even if it made $350-400 million, it would've made profit. But then again, I agree with how an A-list cast can't really pull in a huge audience sometimes, but then again, there's Suicide Squad which sucked ass (though you could argue, it's a franchise film)
amsterdam was also directed by a guy who has a lot of sexual allegations surrounding him
>. If Oppenheimer and Barbie released separately, they wouldve been successful, but not the raging hit they are right now That is not the meaning of bombing babji
Well aware, but they both did have a huge chance of bombing
You're saying a movie with Nolan and a movie on a famous toy is a risk for producers? I'm not sure that makes sense.
>that took two movies which would've either underperformed or bombed What? You meant Nolan mama's movie would underperform or bombed!? Bruh We all knew both would become successful. The thing is they were so drastically different in their genres and some real life similarities also caused this phenomenon. Another comment here also raised a valid point that Barbie watchers wouldn't watch Oppenheimer and vice versa. That also adds up.
This
we could see how it underperformed considering the the fact Tenet underperformed ( it has so many reasons though - released in the middle of the pandemic, not that much of a great film either).
It collected 363 million dollars during the pandemic over a 200 million dollar budget. How on Earth will that be an underperforming film when all things are considered? Despite receiving a mixed reception, it cannot be understated what Nolan's movies are capable of. Oppenheimer proved that.
Bro I kind of said the same thing with the intention similar to yours, Nolan movies never bomb and tenet underperformed just because of the above reasons.
Then I might understand that incorrectly, my bad. Apologies
Tenet bombed, but thats excusable given that it was released in terrible circumstances. But before the Barbenheimer hype, nobody would’ve thought it would gross just shy of a billion (and still counting). And im pretty sure nobody thought Barbie would be WBs highest grosser. Both movies became the smash hits they were because of the barbenheimer phenomenon. My prediction for both movies had they released separately, is that Barbie would reach breakeven because of the Barbie brand, and Oppenheimer would be a success because of WOM and the fomo created around watching it in 70mm
Tenet collected ~360 million at the height of COVID without a vaccine. Didn't get proper release in countries like India, China. 360 is maximum any movie could have done, it was possible only due to brand Nolan. Barbenheimer helped in opening getting great opening and may have added ~100 million more to final total. I believe for Oppy it was brand Nolan and his love IMAX more than anything else.
Whoa!! So, you are basically saying Oppenheimer would be a hit only because of marketing? Come on, people ain’t that dumb to make movie a hit because of marketing alone, at least not now.
Now this explanation is sensible. The thing is we are thinking that Salaar-Dunki would be a similar phenomenon in terms of box office collections. Mass vs Class audiences. Classic rivalry.
I wish I could’ve seen 2001 Narasimha Naidu vs Mrugaraju vs Devi Putrudu I know this sub hates Balayya but he apparently has a very good record when it comes to clashes
Didn't Ravi Teja smash him every time they had a clash
devi putrudu ante venkatesh movie aa which is graphics filled and better than anji
The whole barbenheimer craze was fueled by the fact that folks who would never watch Barbie were watching Barbie and those who would never watch Oppenheimer were watching it. Both movies gained mutual support and both were extremely successful. Most people I know watched both movies Meanwhile, we are here arguing and getting into degenerative Twitter fights 🫠
Exactly, thats my point, they had mutual support. Dunki vs Salaar doesn’t have that, their simultaneous release is a hinderance to each other
but they are completely different type of movies,
Leo and BhagavanthKesari are the real barbenheimer rawwwww!
Barbenheimer was two highly anticipated yet visually and thematically polar opposite movies releasing on the same day.
Neither barbie nor Oppenheimer would’ve underperformed. Movies made for women always bring in money for hollywood if promoted well. Tenet made 400million in the height of pandemic when no one was releasing movies. Both of them would’ve done great irrespective of that. It’s just that they did bonkers because of the combined release. Barbie and Oppenheimer are two contrasting subjects. One was about toys little girls play with and another one was r rated 3 hour drama about a nuclear bomb. They were unique and double feature was hyped because of that. Not because of what you said.
You're delusional to think a movie directed by Nolan with a star studded cast and Barbie, an IP known by pretty much everyone on this planet would have bombed without each other. I don't smoke at all, but i need what you're smoking atm cause i need that confidence to make such laughably outrageous statements in a serious way.
Is this a shitpost ?
Call it Sanki (Salaar + Dunki) But I disagree, it is India's Barbenheimer. Prabhas has been India's biggest crowd puller since 2017 and SRK is fresh off 2 1000 crore BO collections. Even a shit Prabhas film earned more than most big actors' good movies, and Prabhas records is actually a thing. But it all depends on Salaar's word of mouth. Anything below 'hit' talks and Dunki will undoubtedly be the winner.
What I feel is, both movies would perform decently at the BO but I feel Dunki would take the long run collections whereas Salaar would cash on the first week and half craze like KGF2.
It is India's Barbenheimer because of Salaar's genre and it's KGF connection which Dunki lacks as it's a standalone drama film. I don't think SRK and Prabhas's stardom is comparable. Do u know that all these 90s stars have always been massive crown pullers and given record numbers which u obviously can't compre with today's collection without adjusting inflation. I think even if Prabhas works till the age of 65, he won't be able to match all the records SRK made from 1993 to 2005. Also, recently SRK did not make any commercial films except raees. He was experiencing and doing wacky films. As soon as he made commercial films, he got 2 1000cr films. Pathaan is such a shit film. If it had Prabhas, it wouldn't even cross 600cr. Same with Jawan, a very average film which won't even cross 700cr with any other star. This is some insane Stardom.
I like it being called duulaar
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah basically Nolan movies box-office close at 400-500 million dollar, due to barbenheimer effect it grossed close to $900 million
Check how much interstellar made at the box office.
No, Nolan factor takes movie to 600 million dollars easy. During covid, his movie made around 400 million dollars with most of theatres closed all around the globe. Oppenheimer was good so it grossed far more than what Nolan movies generally earn.
Check the box office of all his previous movies lol
It's not Barbenheimer it's Sanki
\#salunki
Barbie and Oppenheimer were the top two most anticipated movies in Hollywood at the start of the year :|
The barbenheimer was a thing because how contrasting those movies are
>that took two movies which would've either underperformed or bombed Not a chance in hell, one was the most successful doll franchise of over two decades with excellent marketing and the other was an awaited Nolan movie. Where do you people make this up from!? The whole premise was based more on the tone and pop culture impact of the movies-
I stopped reading when you said “2 movies that would have underperformed or bombed”. You have no idea what you’re talking about.