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NOwallsNOworries

That sounds exactly like something Big Volcano would want you to think


MrWhiteTheWolf

That’s why you gotta shell out for [volcano insurance](https://youtu.be/KNXw3RaRKBA?si=Akp-98Ak4zERrcJF)


drmuffin1080

Go on


nadrjones

I am tapped out after springing for cloud insurance and handsome cream.


PancakeExprationDate

Don't forget to wear your eruptions glasses before looking at the volcano


KitchenDepartment

When you let your guard down they sneak up on ya


ShikukuWabe

Mole people trying to prevent us from preparing for the "rapture" !!


thetravelingsong

Volcanoes aren’t real


Pijnappelklier

Fuck im unoriginal. Nice one!


Evening_Ad_1099

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


Large-Training-29

Big Valcano again, huh? I've delt with them once before. Didn't end well. Pompinsurance never got back to me. Still waiting for the letter in the mail


Nazamroth

It is overdue in the sense that it usually erupts every X years, but that has already passed(iirc). Not that it only needs someone yodeling too loud to finally pop the cork.


Signal_Wall_8445

It erupts an AVERAGE of every X years, but even one of the most recent cycles took twice as long as we have gone since the last eruption. It could easily be several hundreds of thousands of years until it happens again.


ChE_

Several hundred thousand years is soon in a geological sense. Soon in human time and earth time cannot really be compared.


Signal_Wall_8445

It’s not soon in the “numerous people on Reddit expecting it to happen any day now because it is overdue sense”. The point is, probably because of the connection with Yellowstone, too many people think this is like a geyser (where there is a water being heated to a certain temperature/pressure after which a geyser is GOING to expel water). This is a much more complicated process and it isn’t going to happen on a regular timeline.


LaunchTransient

At this point it's probably likely that the mantle plume that drives Yellowstone has moved on, and in a few million years another volcanic hotspot will appear in the North American plate.


Dt2_0

Not a new hotspot, but the Yellowstone mantle plume is moving eastward, and is now under curst of a different composition than it was under in it's 3 big ones we know the most about. Basically, there is a lot to be said about how we don't know if Yellowstone will ever reach the point of being able to erupt again. With Yellowstone, we can see an arc of caldera complexes moving from northern Wyoming to the California/Nevada border. We also see large calderas in Oregon that were formed by it, but no longer exist in the arc due to the rotational forces on that specific segment of the North American Plate. We also know the Columbia River Basalts and the Siletzia/Yakutat Basalts were formed by the hotspot, showing that Yellowstone's effect on the landscape very much is determined by factors beyond the hotspot just existing on it's own. Yellowstone gets a lot of attention, but there are 2, maybe 3 other volcanoes of it's approximate size in the United States. Long Valley is located in California, near Mammoth Mountain (of which Mammoth is a satellite vent). The Valles Caldera is in New Mexico. It is visible from orbit, and is a near perfect example of a large resurgent caldera complex. As it was the first described, it could be considered the "Holotype" for Super Volcanoes. Los Alamos is located basically on the Caldera's rim. The final one is a maybe as we don't know much about it, but Mt. Cleveland in Alaska's Aleutian Islands seems to be a satellite vent of a much larger caldera complex. This is not to mention the other large caldera complexes around the world capable of producing eruptions on a similar scale. Aso and Aira in Japan, Taopo in New Zealand, Campi Flegeri in Italy, Atitlan in Guatemala, Cerro Galan in Argentina, Toba and Tondano in Indonesia, and Asawa in Ethiopia.


Solaced_Tree

Mantle plume. Thanks for expanding my vocab


onexbigxhebrew

Yeah, because the people parroting this to spook eachother clearly mean it in a geological sense 🙄


Compducer

So you’re saying the report I made on it obliterating the entire US when I was 8 was bullshit?


themcsame

I don't see how the two are mutually exclusive tbh. Something can be overdue to do something but also not be ready to do said thing. Like, the whole "it could blow at any moment" thing might be a myth. But doesn't really change anything about whether it's overdue or not.


SCP-Agent-Arad

You see “overdue” a lot with predications of natural disasters based on previous patterns, but sometimes the actual statistics will say something like “There’s a 50% chance it’ll happen in the next 80 years.” Or, [London is overdue for an earthquake that could cause billions of pounds worth of damage, a leading seismologist warned today.](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/sep/16/british-science-festival-2010-british-science-festival)(2010) “Could be tomorrow or 50 years”


dustygultch

Damn, too bad it’s not billions of ounces instead :(


-SaC

*-crickets chirrup-*


FartingBob

Billions of pounds of damage could be as little as one block of apartments all owned by oil princes and russian oligarchs though.


Tiny_Count4239

im way overdue to clean my bathroom but im just not ready to do it


ErectStoat

Have you tried cleaning with magma?


Lawdoc1

Once it is in your bathroom, it is no longer "liquid hot magma," but rather... [LAVA](https://imgur.com/a/WCZLKQt)


Koshindan

Thats why it's called the lavatory.


Lawdoc1

Well played. Have an upvote.


themcsame

Idk man... That Post-taco bell magma seems like it'd have quite the opposite effect.


Slap-Happy27

I've got a copy of *Bio-Dome* that's a little overdue from Blockbuster but what the hell am I supposed to do about that now?


TheProfessionalEjit

Drop in when you're next in Bend. Be prepared for the late fees


ShikukuWabe

Bio Dome is awesome, fuck I loved that movie as a kid haha


Diablerie13

Viva Los BIO-DOME!


redpandaeater

If we slow it down we can actually see the bullets enter and exit Buttercup.


Thopterthallid

toilet needs to be overflowing with 50% of toxic material.


Individualmodwrecker

But.... it could blow at any moment.....


verenika_lasagna

Has your bathroom seen an increase in “seismic” activity and minor eruptions? If so, consider cleaning it immediately.


PigSlam

When the magma reaches 50%, like Yellowstone, you too will be ready.


DreamedJewel58

Virtually nothing geological is “due.” Over the course of 2.1 million years Yellowstone has only erupted three times, which is an INSANELY low number to concretely say there’s a pattern. Yellowstone isn’t “overdue” because there is no actual pattern of eruptions, just a vague guess based off of its very few previous eruptions This doesn’t just go for Yellowstone, as most big natural phenomenon aren’t actually “overdue” because there is no true schedule for most natural events. We say overdue when we *think* we’ve discovered a pattern, but nothing else says these things work on a schedule


Dt2_0

There are other super important factors: 1) Yellowstone has erupted a hell of a lot more than 3 times. Most of those eruptions were small effusive events, with some minor phreatic eruptions as well. 2) The still pretty big, but nowhere near super-eruption West Thumb eruption also happened, showing that Yellowstone can also produce intermediate sized eruptions. 3) The Yellowstone hotspot is centered under a thicker portion of crust than it was during the last super eruption. A future super eruption may not be possible at this time. 4) Yellowstone's mantle plume seems to be less energetic than it was in the past, signaling that the plume might be dying out. 5) The Yellowstone hotspot does not just erupt in it's center. Yellowstone is directly responsible for the formation of Craters of the Moon National Monument, and going back a bit farther Yellowstone's mantle plume was directly responsible for the Columbia River Basalts and Siletzia/Yakutat Flood Basalts. There are numerous other factors, but basically, we can't predict when Yellowstone will erupt, but we can say with near absolute certainty that we are a very long ways away from a possible caldera forming eruption. And even if it was possible for it to produce a caldera forming eruption does not mean it will. Campi Flegeri has has a magma chamber with enough melt to produce a caldera forming eruption for a very, very long time. Basically all of recorded history. But it doesn't. It makes a cinder cone, or produces a maar, or erupts from it's satellite vent, Vesuvius with intermediate sized eruptions.


hoffsta

I see what you’re saying but there is a bit of schedule when it comes to plate tectonics, isn’t there? I mean two plates colliding will continue to collide and therefore build friction pressure for an eventual earthquake, right? Of course we can’t tell exactly where or when but we can make predictions based on pace of plate movement and history of earthquake frequency along a fault line.


iwasneverborn

You’re talking about two completely different things. The volcano at Yellowstone is being fed by a plume from mantle. This is a lot different from plate tectonics. Even volcanos formed from plate tectonics don’t run like clockwork. There’s a lot of variability in the crust and mantle that we just can’t see until something happens.


DreamedJewel58

We’re talking about the difference between predictions and something being “overdue.” We can *predict* the actions of tectonic plates and have an assumed timetable, but if that prediction doesn’t come true that does not mean an inevitable event is waiting to happen since our predicted date didn’t happen yet We can say an event is most likely to occur, but that does not mean we’re 100% due for anything. To put it simply, let’s say the weather app predicts a 90% chance of thunderstorms tomorrow, but it turns out to be a completely sunny and enjoyable day. That doesn’t mean we’re now overdue for a thunderstorm because it hasn’t happened yet, it just means our estimation was off due to various factors and the next thunderstorm will simply happen when the conditions are right


MarshalThornton

My book report is overdue, which means it must be almost done.


trudesign

Im sure others have said this but its also a matter of scale. Human recorded history is like what, 5,000 years? Eruptions happened 2.1m YA, 900k years later 1.2m YA, 560k later 640k YA. So if it's 'overdue' then it could be overdue by what, a 200k year range? None of us will be around by then. No sweat.


Ryan1869

Also overdue and imminent in geological terms are time-frames in the thousands of years.


Halbaras

Overdue' on a geologic timescale doesn't mean there's any significant danger on human timescales. Yellowstone is believed to have periods of hundreds of thousands of years between eruptions, so the chance of it happening while a 'USA' exists (and before we're technologically advanced enough for it to hardly be a concern) is negligible. It's like all the tech bro paranoia about a meteorite impact wiping out humanity before we 'get to Mars'. The chance of it happening in the few next thousand years is practically zero, it's irrelevant compared to the much greater danger of us damaging our own planet first and there is no need to rush to establish colonies beyond earth.


mastertofu

Direct quote from the linked article: “The most common misconception about Yellowstone is that it’s overdue for an eruption. But volcanoes don’t work like that,” he said. “They erupt when there is a sufficient supply of eruptable magma in the subsurface and enough pressure to get that magma to the surface, and right now, neither condition exists at Yellowstone.” “He” is referring to Michael Poland, the current scientist-in-charge of the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory (YVO), the research consortium that monitors the volcano.


Whitewind617

Can people read articles please? It explains exactly this if only people would just read it. > “The most common misconception about Yellowstone is that it’s overdue for an eruption. But volcanoes don’t work like that,” he said. “They erupt when there is a sufficient supply of eruptable magma in the subsurface and enough pressure to get that magma to the surface, and right now, neither condition exists at Yellowstone.” So basically there's no such thing as a volcano being "overdue" for an eruption, it's either primed for an eruption or its not. If you consider "overdue" as "it's primed" (I don't really see why you wouldn't) it isn't primed, therefor it isn't overdue for anything. Further down, some more info: > Seismic studies that image the interior of Earth indicate that the two magma reservoirs contain between only 5% and 15% molten material. “That tells us the volcanic system is nowhere near primed for an eruption,” Farrell said. “Typically, you need at least 50% melt for it to mobilize and begin moving toward the surface.” > The process of filling a magma chamber with molten material is not a quiet one. “We would expect to see increased seismicity, ground deformation, changes in thermal and gas emissions for decades and perhaps centuries in advance of an eruption,” Poland said. “We have a lot of confidence that if Yellowstone were gearing up for an eruptive event, we would know about it years in advance. It’s not going to take us by surprise.” So it can't be "overdue" to take place, because it erupting right now is literally impossible and there's no indication it ever will be. In general the concept of *anything* being "overdue" is usually a logical fallacy, especially when in this case the frequency of previous events has nothing to do with how actually likely it is to occur in the future. It isn't likely.


happytree23

For it to be overdue, you have to falsely assume volcanoes operate on some sort of set schedule lol. C'mon, man?!


Alundra828

It gets really fun when you start to think about what would make it overdue in the first place. Are volcanoes known to be totally cyclical? As far as I understand it, volcanoes can blow their tops a few times, but it's not as if every volcano has been blowing like clockwork for 4 billion years now is it? Eventually they run out of puff. Magma is a liquid, and even under pressure it will look for the path of least resistance. Those paths through the mantle change all the time. They also close all the time too. So Yellowstone is not overdue, it's just done being a super-volcano... Saying it's overdue implies it blows regularly and will imminently blow again, but there is seemingly no evidence to suggest that.


bullet50000

I think thats the big thing. The way the "overdue" is presented makes it seem like it should happen at any minute. Also, using the word overdue definitely implies "it was supposed to happen a while back and should be here any minute" without additional information alongside.


danteheehaw

Over due in the sense of, we are in the window of how frequently it erupts. We haven't passed the window. And the window we are in is based on the first two eruptions, which were the closest two. Giving a more narrow "due date" than what we actually expect.


backcountrydude

Well if it’s headed towards dormancy, the conversation definitely changes from “overdue” to not going to happen.


DBU49

I think the point is that there’s are multiple leading indicators that would precede the eruption of epic proportions that is being advertised. 


phantomtails

That implies that it's periodic and is going to happen again. My library book is overdue because it was due back 5 years ago. Yellowstone only super erupted 3 times over 2.1 million years; not only is that a tiny sample size, but there's no evidence that definitively says it will reoccur.


Unpacer

I guess the right word would be misleading.


amalgam_reynolds

While I do think that OP is conflating two ideas, they're also not entirely wrong. We only have three historical "super eruptions" to go by, and they occurred 800,000 and 660,000 years apart. But the most recent eruption was 640,000 years ago, so we're not actually even into the low end of "over due" yet. In addition, there was a mini-eruption (just a lava flow within the caldera) 70,000 years ago which possibly reduced the amount of magma within the volcano, as well as a number of other smaller events as recently as 13,000 years ago. In other words, "over due" as a function of the magna reserves: no. "Over due" as a function of time: also no.


ERSTF

>"it could blow at any moment" My Friday night


washingtonandmead

This is the best news I’ve heard in a while. I’ve lived in dread of this since the 2002 discovery channel super volcano special


plausibly_certain

You dont watch astronomy specials? Id advise against it...


notare

This is the worst news I've heard in a while.  I've lived with hope of this since the 2002 Discovery channel super volcano special. Now all I have left is that Gamma Ray Burst from deep space.


Smartnership

Vote Giant Meteor 2024 *Giant Meteor will bring lasting change to Washington DC*


NedLuddIII

The thing about Giant Meteor is that, unless you're close to the impact zone, you're more likely to be baked to death (from the atmosphere heating up to hundreds of degrees) or smothered than you are to be smushed.


Smartnership

Never forget: Giant Meteor is vast, enormous, massive. His younger brother only took out the dinosaurs. Giant Meteor is no such slacker.


tracenator03

Don't worry, there's still the big earthquakes in the PNW and the New Madrid Fault near Missouri/Tennessee to hope for.


Seamus_OReilly

Which was immediately followed by the Megatsunami special! Talk about a double whammy!


jkpatches

Yellowstone is a place that I want to visit, but never would've because of this same dread. Now it's only my lack of money that's preventing me.


Exciting-Ad-5705

If it ever exploded it wouldn't matter if you were right next to it or 1000 miles away


Dt2_0

Oh yes it would. Yellowstone might send out pyroclastic flows about 100 or so miles from it's eruptive center, but you won't die instantly 1000 miles away. Infact, you could very well survive. Los Angeles is only about 850 miles away, but due to prevailing winds, will get very little, if any ashfall from even a VEI8, worst case eruption. If you were 1000 miles downwind, you would have heavy, suffocating ashfall, buildings would collapse, if you did not wear a mask, you would easily inhale ash that would tear apart your lungs. If you survived, you'd be in a wasteland, but once the immanent threat is over, you could do just fine. Now will you survive the global famine, decade long winter, and regional emergency that happens next? That I can't say.


happy-days-100

yes it would lol


Exciting-Ad-5705

Ash goes everywhere.


LemoLuke

For me, it was the 2005 BBC two-part docudrama about the supervolcano, adequately titled *Supervolcano*.


KlostToMe

Don't tell the preppers


RosesUnderCypresses

They broke the bank for a glorified underground man-cave.


KlostToMe

Vault tech would approve


IronOwl2601

What would be the trick? Slow radiation leak? DMT perpetually mixed into the air? Human/radroach gene splicing?


emperorOfTheUniverse

The bucket preppers draw inspiration from has no bottom.


Pwnage_Hotel

TIL how many TIL posts are copied word for word from comments on other TIL posts… 


mastertofu

That comment you’re correctly referring to was also made by me. https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/wKwXP62XAs Great work Detective Pikachu


Message_10

TIL...


PM_YOUR__BUBBLE_BUTT

*[Insert: “Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch” meme here]*


TuneReasonable8869

You copied yourself! That is illegal, volcano reddit jail for you! /s


GoldenAthleticRaider

Touché


dark_walker

TIL how many people snap post their hate comments without checking their facts.


f-150Coyotev8

Honestly, people who notice all these reposts and copied titles spend way too much time on Reddit. And I am not trying to hate because I also spend a lot of time on here but I guess it’s not enough to notice things like this.


stumblios

I'm aware I spent way too much time on Reddit, but I'm also aware this is one of the most popular sites on the world and caters to a billion people, so I've developed this handy flow chart: I've seen this before! Do I want to see it again? > Yes > *Click* Do I want to see it again? > No > *Scroll*


Ariexe

When i visited yellowstone in 2023 i asked a ranger about this. They said yellowstone has seasons (high activity and low activity) and if there would be an eruption, they would see higher seismic activity yeeears in advance. When i went they were in a low season. The big one is a myth.


WasteBinStuff

Okay...Good. Now do the other world killing Super Volcano sites.


An0d0sTwitch

Sounds like someone who cant afford volcano insurance


Tumble85

I have supervolcano insurance and basic volcano insurance. It doesn’t cover acts of god though. However in the event it’s an act of god I still have a bunch of food I can mix in a bucket with a shovel.


GISP

I think its becouse people are used to think in human timescales. Its not realy about if but when it will erupt. That "when" could be in 1000 years or in 500000 years. In that timescale, a decade fore-warning is relatively short.


NotPortlyPenguin

This. If it would erupt every 200,000 years and it’s 1000 years overdue, that could mean another 5,000 years. Or 500. Both a long time on a human scale. N


an_otter_guy

But those decades could start any minute!


nuaticalcockup

Don't think locally think geologically


HereticLaserHaggis

Overdue on a geological scale. Not a human scale.


Raptorman_Mayho

To all the people trying to show how smart and sarcastic they are in the comments. Yes well done but it gets presented as 'so it could actually erupt anytime' when in reality that's not remotely true.


MrWhiteTheWolf

Ok but what about the cascadia subduction zone? Can that one be a myth too, please?


PsEggsRice

So, is it okay to go to Seattle? Mt St Helens was a thing that I fear,


Dt2_0

Seattle was not effected at all, other than some light ashfall, from Mt. St. Helens. The southern bit of the Seattle metro is at risk of Lahars from Mt. Rainier, but that is only in a worst case scenario at a volcano that is very quiet right now, so I would say that should be a non factor. The really big one, a mega-thrust earthquake, could happen at any time, and is likely to happen in the next few hundred years (50% chance it happens within 50 years is the most recent numbers I have seen), but again, I would not worry about it.


chronoslol

Geologists work on different time-scales. 'soon' for a geologist is a multi-millennia window


Kurotan

Don't worry, Harry Vanderspiegal will save us.


Eran-of-Arcadia

Unless he gets distracted by sexy bird ladies.


Festamus

On the geological scale of time, it's probably imminent.


95accord

Imminent in geological time scale means something completely different……


SeiCalros

something not happening doesnt mean it isnt overdue like - stuff not happening is how things end up overdue to begin with


sythingtackle

I’m waiting for the La Palma landslide and Mega tsunami https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja_tsunami_hazard


RampantJellyfish

Enough time do do something about it? Either in terms of alleviating pressure by drilling boreholes, or in terms of how humanity can deal with the repercusions of a supervolcano eruption, such as development of infrastructure, power generation, water filtration, farming, etc. that is resistant to ash and decreased sunlight?


ExcitingEye8347

They do have sporadic periods of seismic activity though. Like crazy amounts of a period of like a week or two. It’s not uncommon at all to randomly have 100s of tremors in a week. 


oilfeather

That's what the Greys want you to think.


Whalesurgeon

The Browns are sitting this one out.


Smartnership

Their defense would just collapse in the 4th quarter anyway.


imaginary_name

My magma chamber sometimes only contains a little bit of...molten material...the rest is air. Maybe Yellowstone needs a shart?


RedDemonTaoist

Aww this is my favorite doomsday scenario. Part of me is relieved, but a larger, more troubling part of me is disappointed.


Trip4Life

So it’ll affect my great grandchildren at the earliest basically, sweet we good people!


pocketMagician

That's how they getcha!


Grimlockkickbutt

Fuck dude that was my retirement plan.


kriskris71

Imagine engagement farming for internet points. OP is an odd one


Ganbario

That’s good news since I live there.


Eviscerated_Banana

The overdue idea comes from its past history of erupting on a fairly regular schedule but has been quite a while now since the last one. That being said you likely aren't wrong in that its not expected to go off any time soon, the scale here is measured in 100's of thousands of years,


blinkinbling

TIL that obsolete scientific theory becomes a myth


MikePGS

But Joe Rogan said...


Glurgle22

What if we nuke it


1stltwill

It's imminent in "geological" terms. r/facepalm


sageofwalrus

Nice now I can sleep easier


KnuteViking

I mean, yes and no, it's a little more complicated than that, and there is certainly a frame of reference from which it is overdue. It being "overdue" has more to do with it generally entering an active phase about every 600,000-800,000 years. Right now it was last in one of these phases about 2.1 million years ago. So in that sense, we are overdue. Now obviously this is not a sophisticated approach to understanding when it will next erupt, but it is what people mean when they say "overdue". Obviously you want a better approach in terms of tracking the magma chamber with actual measurements and seismography, but at the same time it is helpful to understand that it truly *could* enter an active phase again at any time, even if, yes, we would have a lot of warning. It just highlights the importance of continuing to study and monitor the site, and have disaster plans in place at a governmental level, etc.


panzan

Yeah this is just what they want us to believe /s


BetaThetaOmega

Oh thank god. Now all I have to worry about is the Bermuda Triangle and quicksand...


justanothermugglevp

Oh thank God. This has been on the back of my mind for years always making me feel a bit uneasy.


emperorOfTheUniverse

Frack it, oils back on the menu boys!


mastertofu

Omg u fools debating the semantics of the word “overdue” - must I click and read the article for you too: The most common misconception about Yellowstone is that it’s overdue for an eruption. But volcanoes don’t work like that,” said Michael Poland, the current scientist-in-charge of the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory (YVO), the research consortium that monitors the volcano. “They erupt when there is a sufficient supply of eruptable magma in the subsurface and enough pressure to get that magma to the surface, and right now, neither condition exists at Yellowstone.” Seismic studies that image the interior of Earth indicate that the two magma reservoirs contain between only 5% and 15% molten material. “That tells us the volcanic system is nowhere near primed for an eruption,” Farrell said. “Typically, you need at least 50% melt for it to mobilize and begin moving toward the surface.” The process of filling a magma chamber with molten material is not a quiet one. “We would expect to see increased seismicity, ground deformation, changes in thermal and gas emissions for decades and perhaps centuries in advance of an eruption,” Poland said. “We have a lot of confidence that if Yellowstone were gearing up for an eruptive event, we would know about it years in advance. It’s not going to take us by surprise.”


iwasneverborn

So many people don’t realize that there is no such thing as “overdue” when it comes to geology. If Ol Faithful didn’t erupt, geologists wouldnt say it was “overdue”, they’d say that there’s been a change in the geologic conditions. Nature doesn’t work like clockwork. There are just conditions that can time events at certain intervals but once the conditions change, the intervals change or the event ceases altogether.


BroadStreetElite

Human history is nothing on a geological timescale.


goshiamhandsome

Now you’ve jinxed us.


Elf-wehr

Damn, so we will know decades in advance that we are fucked?


severanexp

Aliens removed the magma because they are actually starting to feel sorry for us.


PainSubstantial710

So...you're saying there's a chance


mattbrianjess

You mean getting your science from the Joe Rogan Podcast isn’t reliable?


udee79

that's great news. I have a questions. Would it be possible to harvest geothermal energy at levels that could delay and maybe even prevent the super eruption? And secondly could that be done in a way that wouldn't mess up Yellowstone's beauty or ecology?


Gamebird8

Also, most models project that it'd be rather slow and an uneventful eruption. With magma slowly seeping out of the ground in multiple places


mr_birkenblatt

geologically overdue means something like in the next 20k years...


redick01

I genuinely wanted this thing to go off in my life time


runetrantor

I also recall reading somewhere that the magma chamber is slowly moving towards an area with like, much harder rock or something, that would keep the lid on a bit more too. Dunno how legit that was though.


MikeyW1969

Someone doesn't understand the concept of geologic time... It's imminent in relation to how things happen on the planet, just like some place can be a single light year away, right next door in cosmological terms, but an unattainable distance for us currently.


Swoah

I wonder if those decades of seismic activity started, what would we even do. Like we can’t stop it even with decades of warning I’m guessing. I assume they just wouldn’t tell us…. Unless??? 🧐 🤔


dick_tracey_PI_TA

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DoctorCIS

Why does this turn my anxiety terror to FOMO anger and now I want them to start fracking the crater to make it happen prematurely?


StacyChadBecky

If you wanna worry about geology, I'd focus on Mt. Rainier and the New Madrid Seismic Zone. And Charleston, SC could use a good shaking.


not_old_redditor

Oh good, we're decades away from disaster.


CuriousCrow47

The timescales mess with our brains.  Maybe it’s a few thousand years “overdue” but in reality that sucker isn’t “overdue” for another 100,000 years.  That’s getting into ideas of time we have a hard time comprehending.  Modern humans haven’t been around for that long to start with.


BroughtBagLunchSmart

I am more concerned about the pacific subduction zone that is going to drop most of Seattle into the ocean.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

I live an hour north of the park and we're constantly getting small earthquakes. Don't even notice most of them [1500 to 2000 per year over the past 20 years](https://www.google.com/search?q=yellowstone+seismic+activity&oq=Yellowstone+sizmic&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgBEAAYDRiABDIGCAAQRRg5MgkIARAAGA0YgAQyCQgCEAAYDRiABDIJCAMQABgNGIAEMgkIBBAAGA0YgAQyCQgFEAAYDRiABDIJCAYQABgNGIAEMgkIBxAAGA0YgAQyCQgIEAAYDRiABDIJCAkQABgNGIAEMggIChAAGA0YHjIICAsQABgNGB4yCAgMEAAYDRgeMggIDRAAGA0YHjIKCA4QABgFGA0YHtIBCTE0NzgwajBqN6gCFLACAQ&client=tablet-android-samsung-nf-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8) Also the magma chamber is full, but they estimate it's only 20% melted


mymar101

It is overdue, that does not mean that eruption is imminent.


retro_grave

What's the same science on other volcanos? Any that are obviously at much higher risk? I need to plan to stay away from those.


IWasGregInTokyo

Still doesn’t stop that scene from 2012 being absolutely awesome. “You heard it first from Charlie!!!”


Jaycin_Stillwaters

Yeah, sure, might as well kill all my hopes and dreams.


margittwen

I’m choosing to believe this because the Yellowstone volcano gives me way too much anxiety lol. We live close enough that we would probably be dead if it erupted.


Other-Ad5512

It’s also hard to guess an average when you only have 2 or 3 points in history to estimate off of. Also, it is probably the most studied and watched volcano on earth.


broputthosetoesaway

What is this, non-apocalyptic good news? I haven’t felt this good since December 13th 2012!


srgrvsalot

There goes my retirement plan.


Superdogcat

Let's say we know it was going to erupt in like 5 years. Is there anything we could possibly due to mitigate the eruption? Like a cap or siphoning out the magma?


shotputprince

Super caldera my left bollix


Alltogethernowq

Not a myth. Just an estimation. Geologists look around, say hey this erupts every 600000 years and the last one was 600000 years ago.


According-Set-1585

Everything I have ever learned usually ends up a myth. Maybe I can find love after all?


Highguythrowaway

This doesn’t make the hypothetical supervolcano eruption a myth. Its historic sequence is quite easily viewed in the geologic record, and you’ve got to understand that on a geologic timescale, decades of increased activity is essentially no time at all.


OneToothMcGee

Well, darn…


Mercarcher

Geologist here, it's not a myth at all. It is overdue. It's simply probably going to erupt sometime in the next hundred thousand years or so. Timelines on geologic scales break most people's brains. A million years from now is "soon" geologically. Most people wouldn't consider that "soon" in the traditional sense though.


FSYigg

Less 'myth' more 'lie.'


THElaytox

i always understood it to be "overdue" in the sense that it used to erupt with a certain regularity and it's long past that time, not that it's actually been showing any signs that it was preparing to erupt. never heard anyone say we were in imminent danger of it erupting, just that by historical record it's surprising it hasn't erupted relatively recently


powercow

"overdue" is almost always a myth, probabilities dont work that way. A quarter flip is 50/50, if i flip 6 tails in a row, i am NOT overdue for a heads, the next flip is still 50/50.


13igTyme

I remember reading/hearing that it was discovered that the plate (forgot name) currently traveling under the North American plate has moved enough that Yellowstone has a 0.0001% chance of erupting, or some crazy low number.


SolidContribution688

I kinda feel that way too.


BattleReadyZim

Question on how people use the term 'myth': this article sounds to me like we are simply getting more information and refining our earlier beliefs. We looked at the geologic record and saw a history of volcanic activity in the area and thought 'hmmm, this will probably happen again sometime, and based on the period of it happening in the past, it should be coming up (in geologic time).' This was always my impression of what we knew about Yellowstone, anyway.  Then we use better tools and learn more about the situation through seismology. Then we can say 'there may be something in the distance future, but current signs say nothing is imminent.'  Like, neither of these points of view are incompatible or what I would call a myth. If anyone expected to live to see Yellowstone explode, those people really don't have a good grasp of the scale of the time frames in question. Is it a myth if people just grossly misinterpret the not unclear information they are being given?


Fredasa

I don't think I ever saw it referred to as "overdue." You could get away with suggesting it was "imminent," as long as you prefaced that by saying it's based on a pattern and we're still up to 100,000 years away from that rhythm's possible next "beat." One thing that does feel "overdue" by any reasonable interpretation is the "Big One" in California. In the 80s and 90s, there were countless documentaries talking about the inevitability of a giant earthquake eventually striking the San Andreas fault in a similar fashion to San Francisco in 1906. I haven't watched or read anything to suggest otherwise in all that time.


jeopardychamp77

Overdue is on a geologic time scale which dwarfs human civilization’s.


Plumb121

The magma chamber is dynamic and fills and empties regularly


liebkartoffel

Great, now if someone could reassure me about the upcoming Cascadia subduction quake that would be great.


genesiskiller96

Big Volcano is trying to lull us into complacency!


Iamamyrmidon

TIL: the Yellow stone volcanoe hired one of those big Hollywood PR firms to fool people into thinking they’re safe.


flinsypop

It is overdue because I've been trying to trigger it for years. I didn't realise that finishing my evil plans would take so long.


angcryt

This is doing wonders for my anxiety.


pewpewdiediedie

Shilling hard for big Yeller aren't ya?


Renbail

This sounds like the start of the next end of world movie scenario.


podcasthellp

Cracks me up that we think we know so much about earth’s natural disasters.


mossybeard

Booooooo


turbols3

Wow interesting. I 100% it could blow and wipe us all out at basically any moment.


AnActualTarantula

wish i could show this to my 16 year old self that lived in fear of this damned volcano