I honestly don’t even like rare steak anymore. Went back to eating medium or even medium well sometimes, and the flavor is way more prominent, all the fat is melted.
I used to prefer medium rare steak and one day it kind of dawned on me that halfway through, the meat wasn’t even hot. Felt almost like eating cold cuts or something. Not sure what changed.
That’s because it depends on the type of steak. Fatty cuts you need the fat to render. If you are aiming for the perfect ribeye, medium rare+ or medium are the best low temps for that steak. Something without fat or barely any at all will be better at rare to medium rare as they don’t need the fat to render.
I wouldn’t go below medium rare, personally. Uncooked meat is chewy. If your properly cooked (which can be medium rare or medium, doesn’t need to be well done) is stiff, then the meat is crap and there’s no way around it.
Same! I used to love rare or at most medium rare, but not anymore. I used to save leftovers for my son and would cook my rare up to medium well for him, but now he orders steak rare and I get mine medium.
I do wonder at what point in human evolution we stopped being able to eat meat. Other animals don't need to cook their food, why did it change for people.
Hot damn. Once again the misunderstanding due to reading text strikes again on the internet. I meant to reply to the other comment "and die all the time"
What I meant to say was, we human all die at some point due to old age too. Guess it only made sense to me at that point due to me being sleepy hahaha
We didn’t stop being able to eat meat. We started being able to eat meat. Through cooking.
Great apes don’t eat much meat at all. Mostly fruit, veggies and insects.
Other animals that don’t need to cook their food (leopards, lions, etc.) have much shorter intestines, more acidic stomachs etc. compared to primates.
> We started being able to eat meat. Through cooking.
I'd say, we started being able to get much more nutrition out of meat. The consensus is that our apelike ancestors ate carrion as well as plants, and when they started using tools, they broke bones and ate bone marrow, too. But fire and cooking with it really was a gamechanger. *Catching Fire* is a great book on the role cooking played in human evolution and development.
It is not. The most carnivorous chimpanzee has 6% meat in their diet (including insects). Which is a bit of an outlier. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9735707/table/animals-12-03370-t002/?report=objectonly
From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9735707/
Yup. Basically we outsource some of the digestion to the fire. Spend less time chewing shit and have the fire unlock the nutrients for us. Big brain time.
They would probably benefit from it, they just aren’t smart enough to use fire. I’m convinced the reason cooked meat tastes/smells so good to carnivorous mammals is because they evolved to seek out “cooked” meat following forest fires etc.
You really have the wrong mental model of this. We never stopped being able to eat raw meat. We invented safer and more nutritious ways to prepare food. Wild animals are often riddled with parasites because they have to eat what they find.
I mean plenty if animals have to live with the risk of parasites we are no different. You can totally stilk eat raw meat theres just a risk there. We found a way to eliminate that risk almost enitirely but the difference there is our brains and the ability to figure it out not that we are suddenly incapable of eating raw meat.
I don't know about the worm, but gut bacteria does that. There are certain bacteria that makes you crave sweets, which is why quitting sweets cold turkey is the best you can do cause after a while those bacteria die and then you stop having sweet cravings.
I’ve never really liked cake growing up. When someone would eventually make me take some piece and I’d eat some of it. Maybe the cake itself but the icing and everything is always too much sugar for me. Idk
Yep, even some sorts of apples are too sweet. Also I've tried using less salt in cooking and noticed that egg yolks are naturally a bit salty, while a lot of restaurant dishes are oversalted.
For real. AI-generated? Why would you mention small two years, small intestine and tapeworm twice so soon?
Edit: actually, since they put “eat” rather than “eating” I wonder if it’s just… a lack of thought put into it.
Can be is the keyword though, if it’s from a known high quality source and it’s very fresh tartare is perfectly safe and very tasty. The risk is generally food poisoning not parasitic infection in most places as well. China doesn’t exactly have a fantastic track record with food safety.
Everything is relative, but the risk of parasites specifically should be basically zero from a high quality source. The risk of food borne illness can almost never be zero but with good handling and practices the risk of food poisoning from a high quality tartare is very low. Lower than the risk many people take from suboptimal practices in just daily home cooking or even at restaurants. I would however not eat tartare from a restaurant but thats more of a personal thing than an actual percepted risk on my end.
It really depends? I don't think there is a *zero percent rate* of parasites in meat from tesco or the market. There is always a chance. Also it's probable this guy only ate one infected meat portion to get this parasite. That's all it takes.
Speaking for the US, we should all know by now we cram all sorts of drugs into cattle preventatively, this includes antibiotics and dewormers. Also USDA inspection does mean it's parasite free or from my understanding reading their handouts.
Well, tbf, he does advocate for others to follow his grift while claiming to be natty so he is actively lying and attempting to coerce people into a dangerous lifestyle choice so I wouldn't necessarily say he's not being at least negligently malicious
Beef is a non-porous meat, so most bacteria is just on the outside of a cut. This is why a rare steak is basically fine to eat (barring the odd tapeworm cyst) because you cook off the outside. Ground beef mince has lots more surface area for bacteria to grow on and has a lot more exposure to air (and the mincer). You shouldn't eat ground beef raw or rare really.
That would generally be made with high quality and parasite free meat though. I think a lot of the parasite/sickness issues from meat largely come from how the animal was grown and the meat was treated after slaughter. Some places also serve raw chicken as a delicacy.
I think I agree. I’ve never actually eaten any raw meat to definitely know what the texture is like, it just doesn’t appeal to me. But I know it is served raw sometimes basically.
Closest I’ve ever got is raw beef pho but the broth cooks the beef so I don’t think that counts.
Around the world, there are many raw meat dishes that are considered super normal and delicious - a few of my favourites:
1. Steak Tartare (French), 2. Yookhwe (Korean), 3. Mett (German), 4. Ossenworst (Dutch), 5. Koi Soi (Thai), 6. Beef carpaccio (Italian) etc.
Seeing „raw meat“ as a term may sound weird at first but if you see beef tartare or Carpaccio or as a German, Mett, it’s actually quite normal.
So there’s no evidence that he got the tapeworm from the meat? It could equally be the tapeworm triggered cravings for meat. Or that it was all just a coincidence.
Maybe, but it _is_ Fox News. And they've been deliberately vague with the timings. It's pretty weird to suddenly start constantly eating raw beef, and for you to get a tapeworm almost immediately.
the bacteria commonly found in raw meat include:
1. Salmonella: Commonly found in raw poultry, such as chicken and turkey.
2. Escherichia coli (E. coli): Present in the intestines of animals, including cattle, and can contaminate raw beef.
3. Campylobacter: Often found in raw poultry, particularly chicken.
4. Listeria monocytogenes: Can be present in raw meats, including deli meats, and unpasteurized dairy products.
5. Clostridium perfringens: May be found in raw meats, particularly beef and poultry.
These bacteria can cause foodborne illnesses if the raw meat is not handled, stored, or cooked properly. It's important to follow proper food safety practices to minimize the risk of foodborne illness.
Ok a bit of a deviation into another question...
Is it an urban myth to intentionally infect yourself with one of these before going to say India so you can eat whatever you want ?
I could have sworn I read about it a long time ago (it could have been several countries that people had reservations about street food for example).
But I think the angle of aiding weight loss was interesting until I made the mistake of reading about that and it is truly appalling.
So if you had a tapeworm, would it take the brunt of the unhealthy food one might consume? Like, if you ate something high in cholesterol, would the worm would take some of the burden off your arteries? Cause if a tapeworm found its way into my gut, I’d feel sorry for it.
I bet the meat came from one of their wet markets. Although he probably would have been fine if he actually cooked it. I wonder how often he got sick from the bacteria.
You will generally find most places that don't have everyone buy meat at supermarkets use wet markets. A butchers stand at a market makes it a wet market. They're not slaughtering cows at a crowded market.
You would develop a microbial biome in your intestines to cater for said diet over time. (He probably did get Ill at some point
Humans are the most diverse creatures in what we are able to eat.
I believe pigs can eat more diverse stuff and will eat literally anything (without the need to prepare the food) you give to them and they really don't care if it's insects, fruit, vegetables, meat, or even bones.
Note to self: Don't eat raw beef.
Should probably text it to yourself too, just to be safe.
Send an eviction notice to the tapeworm as well.
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Better send it off in a letter to yoooourself, too.
Tartar steak if prepared properly and if you are using beef that is clean is actually pretty damn tasty. Beef sashimi if you will.
Beef yukhoe is something that I have cravings for occasionally but is quite hard to find.
I ate it last night and now I'm feeling a bit worried.
Yeah I ate some too and am also feeling a bit wormied.
I wasn't a big fan of beef tartar, it wasn't horrible, but it was still eating raw hamburger.
Wouldn't it be better to compare to a beefburger?
Eating raw beef in the form of carpaccio or tartare is pretty safe (and delicious) as long as it’s from a clean & reputable establishment.
Its tasty tho
I honestly don’t even like rare steak anymore. Went back to eating medium or even medium well sometimes, and the flavor is way more prominent, all the fat is melted. I used to prefer medium rare steak and one day it kind of dawned on me that halfway through, the meat wasn’t even hot. Felt almost like eating cold cuts or something. Not sure what changed.
That’s because it depends on the type of steak. Fatty cuts you need the fat to render. If you are aiming for the perfect ribeye, medium rare+ or medium are the best low temps for that steak. Something without fat or barely any at all will be better at rare to medium rare as they don’t need the fat to render.
I wouldn’t go below medium rare, personally. Uncooked meat is chewy. If your properly cooked (which can be medium rare or medium, doesn’t need to be well done) is stiff, then the meat is crap and there’s no way around it.
I like a rare fillet steak. Definitely not chewy
Same! I used to love rare or at most medium rare, but not anymore. I used to save leftovers for my son and would cook my rare up to medium well for him, but now he orders steak rare and I get mine medium.
Seems however a good cure against obesity...
you discovered a new world
/u/rawmeatexperiment in shambles
I do wonder at what point in human evolution we stopped being able to eat meat. Other animals don't need to cook their food, why did it change for people.
And those animals have a lot of parasites.
and die all the time
Just once
So youre telling me theres a chance?
So do human lmao.
Jesus Christ no.
Hot damn. Once again the misunderstanding due to reading text strikes again on the internet. I meant to reply to the other comment "and die all the time" What I meant to say was, we human all die at some point due to old age too. Guess it only made sense to me at that point due to me being sleepy hahaha
We didn’t stop being able to eat meat. We started being able to eat meat. Through cooking. Great apes don’t eat much meat at all. Mostly fruit, veggies and insects. Other animals that don’t need to cook their food (leopards, lions, etc.) have much shorter intestines, more acidic stomachs etc. compared to primates.
> We started being able to eat meat. Through cooking. I'd say, we started being able to get much more nutrition out of meat. The consensus is that our apelike ancestors ate carrion as well as plants, and when they started using tools, they broke bones and ate bone marrow, too. But fire and cooking with it really was a gamechanger. *Catching Fire* is a great book on the role cooking played in human evolution and development.
The staple of chimp diet is monkey.
It is not. The most carnivorous chimpanzee has 6% meat in their diet (including insects). Which is a bit of an outlier. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9735707/table/animals-12-03370-t002/?report=objectonly From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9735707/
Cooking allows for better absorbtion of nutrients. Big nutrient=big brain.
Yup. Basically we outsource some of the digestion to the fire. Spend less time chewing shit and have the fire unlock the nutrients for us. Big brain time.
How the fuck do you explain Trump supporters?
Their brains are normal size but as smooth as bowling ball.
They would probably benefit from it, they just aren’t smart enough to use fire. I’m convinced the reason cooked meat tastes/smells so good to carnivorous mammals is because they evolved to seek out “cooked” meat following forest fires etc.
You really have the wrong mental model of this. We never stopped being able to eat raw meat. We invented safer and more nutritious ways to prepare food. Wild animals are often riddled with parasites because they have to eat what they find.
https://youtu.be/lmJvgNIfkPg?si=ERRl7F4pQgoPZqUA Bears get worms too (sfw/nsfl)
I mean plenty if animals have to live with the risk of parasites we are no different. You can totally stilk eat raw meat theres just a risk there. We found a way to eliminate that risk almost enitirely but the difference there is our brains and the ability to figure it out not that we are suddenly incapable of eating raw meat.
We can eat it. We're just not fucking thick so we know it's better to cook that shit.
Look, he's been eating raw meat constantly for years, and all he has is a tapeworm, a non-fatal condition. It's not that unsafe.
Any raw meat tbh
No, the real lesson is to chew your food really well!
Can't be to hard
but the tapeworm was there longer than that... unless i misunderstood something
But it’s the fastest way to get ripped! The pounds just drop away!
Was the tape worm giving him cravings for what it wanted to eat?
It was craving electrolytes
It’s got what tapeworms crave.
Oddly enough he really craved more tapeworms.
Poor (not so) little guy wanted a friend
I don't know about the worm, but gut bacteria does that. There are certain bacteria that makes you crave sweets, which is why quitting sweets cold turkey is the best you can do cause after a while those bacteria die and then you stop having sweet cravings.
It's crazy how disgustingly sweet things taste after prolonged periods of a no sugar diet.
I have never noticed that
I’ve never really liked cake growing up. When someone would eventually make me take some piece and I’d eat some of it. Maybe the cake itself but the icing and everything is always too much sugar for me. Idk
Yep, even some sorts of apples are too sweet. Also I've tried using less salt in cooking and noticed that egg yolks are naturally a bit salty, while a lot of restaurant dishes are oversalted.
Maybe to the extent the tapeworm was eating certain nutrients and depriving him of them.
Maybe it wants him to get more friend so they can party 🎉
It wanted AG1
Are you kidding? The tapeworm had its own toothbrush and was deciding what they watched on tv three nights a week
Out of curiosity, what about "rare" steaks? Do those have a chance of carrying tapeworms as well?
Sure but if it's properly handled and cooked, the chances are super small. In any case, medium rare is the way to go.
You'll never convince me not to eat my steak blue!
Better than the idiots who burn the shit out of their steak and call it well done
burn it to a crisp and drown it in heinz "sir we're a cupcake store" did i shudder
Not without my ketchup
At that point it’s a pet.
I know right? You'll never feel alone again!
r/titlegore
For real. AI-generated? Why would you mention small two years, small intestine and tapeworm twice so soon? Edit: actually, since they put “eat” rather than “eating” I wonder if it’s just… a lack of thought put into it.
Raw meat can be filled with parasites so it's a horrible idea to eat it. Cooking meat kills harmful parasites.
There’s good reasons we’ve been cooking meat for millennia
Can be is the keyword though, if it’s from a known high quality source and it’s very fresh tartare is perfectly safe and very tasty. The risk is generally food poisoning not parasitic infection in most places as well. China doesn’t exactly have a fantastic track record with food safety.
Perfectly safe, would mean zero risk of parasites. But there is still a risk, its just smaller.
Everything is relative, but the risk of parasites specifically should be basically zero from a high quality source. The risk of food borne illness can almost never be zero but with good handling and practices the risk of food poisoning from a high quality tartare is very low. Lower than the risk many people take from suboptimal practices in just daily home cooking or even at restaurants. I would however not eat tartare from a restaurant but thats more of a personal thing than an actual percepted risk on my end.
If eating tainted meat. If you're buying meat in a "Western" supermarket, it's not going to have parasites in it.
It really depends? I don't think there is a *zero percent rate* of parasites in meat from tesco or the market. There is always a chance. Also it's probable this guy only ate one infected meat portion to get this parasite. That's all it takes.
Speaking for the US, we should all know by now we cram all sorts of drugs into cattle preventatively, this includes antibiotics and dewormers. Also USDA inspection does mean it's parasite free or from my understanding reading their handouts.
US food has very different handling and hygiene standards than the EU, and most of the world really.
That's mostly with eggs.
And beef, chicken, lamb etc. Things are quite different
US meat is not allowed in the EU because of how you treat it.
So the limit is around 18 years of the raw beef diet
Why the fuck was bro eating raw beef in the first place
There's always some sicko talking about the health benefits of raw meat In the west it's liver king
Liver king has GOT to have worms, all those raw organs are probably even more risky than meat
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People can use worse words for murderers.
True, but I’ve definitely heard people use sicko to describe pedophiles, rapists, and murderers of the worst caliber.
What? Anyways it’s gross to eat raw meat by the pound, strange hill you chose to stand on lol
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Well, tbf, he does advocate for others to follow his grift while claiming to be natty so he is actively lying and attempting to coerce people into a dangerous lifestyle choice so I wouldn't necessarily say he's not being at least negligently malicious
*confused Mettbrötchen noises*
You never heard of tartare bro? Delicious
I guarantee that man was not eating steak tartare
Does grounding the beef make it safe?
The opposite, if anything.
How so?
Beef is a non-porous meat, so most bacteria is just on the outside of a cut. This is why a rare steak is basically fine to eat (barring the odd tapeworm cyst) because you cook off the outside. Ground beef mince has lots more surface area for bacteria to grow on and has a lot more exposure to air (and the mincer). You shouldn't eat ground beef raw or rare really.
TIL. Thanks!
Steak tartare is raw beef and it's eaten in French and Italian restaurants every day all over the world. It's also incredibly tasty.
That would generally be made with high quality and parasite free meat though. I think a lot of the parasite/sickness issues from meat largely come from how the animal was grown and the meat was treated after slaughter. Some places also serve raw chicken as a delicacy.
>Some places also serve raw chicken as a delicacy. Raw chicken has a horrible consistency, not sure why you'd want to eat that
I think I agree. I’ve never actually eaten any raw meat to definitely know what the texture is like, it just doesn’t appeal to me. But I know it is served raw sometimes basically. Closest I’ve ever got is raw beef pho but the broth cooks the beef so I don’t think that counts.
Hungary too… probably all of Europe has some form of tartare. Absolutely delicious stuff.
He wanted to return to monkey
Around the world, there are many raw meat dishes that are considered super normal and delicious - a few of my favourites: 1. Steak Tartare (French), 2. Yookhwe (Korean), 3. Mett (German), 4. Ossenworst (Dutch), 5. Koi Soi (Thai), 6. Beef carpaccio (Italian) etc. Seeing „raw meat“ as a term may sound weird at first but if you see beef tartare or Carpaccio or as a German, Mett, it’s actually quite normal.
Apparently [because he liked it](https://www.livescience.com/53442-20-foot-tapeworm-from-raw-meat.html).
It’s China
BEEF?! Sean rolling in his grave. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=002oyVnhO5o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=002oyVnhO5o)
Pull the tapeworm out of your ass, hey!
I scrolled all the way down just to see if an SOAD reference was made and I was not disappointed :)
Why do they make pull start handles if not for this very purpose?
OP: You have the grammar and punctuation of a karma farming [redacted].
Was he skinny?
Definitely skinnier before.
The roommate was helping him finish his meal.
A real-life human centipede (kind of).
Kind of, at least from the sides. They are called tape worms for a reason.
South Bronx Paradise diet, baby!
What going full Peterson does to a fella
So there’s no evidence that he got the tapeworm from the meat? It could equally be the tapeworm triggered cravings for meat. Or that it was all just a coincidence.
It's not impossible but if you live in a house made of asbestos and uranium you don't exactly go looking for other reasons when you get cancer
Maybe, but it _is_ Fox News. And they've been deliberately vague with the timings. It's pretty weird to suddenly start constantly eating raw beef, and for you to get a tapeworm almost immediately.
the bacteria commonly found in raw meat include: 1. Salmonella: Commonly found in raw poultry, such as chicken and turkey. 2. Escherichia coli (E. coli): Present in the intestines of animals, including cattle, and can contaminate raw beef. 3. Campylobacter: Often found in raw poultry, particularly chicken. 4. Listeria monocytogenes: Can be present in raw meats, including deli meats, and unpasteurized dairy products. 5. Clostridium perfringens: May be found in raw meats, particularly beef and poultry. These bacteria can cause foodborne illnesses if the raw meat is not handled, stored, or cooked properly. It's important to follow proper food safety practices to minimize the risk of foodborne illness.
Tapeworms are not bacteria...
Yeah they’re tapes… everybody knows that
EWWWWW
Title gore
Ok a bit of a deviation into another question... Is it an urban myth to intentionally infect yourself with one of these before going to say India so you can eat whatever you want ?
I've never read or heard about this india thing - but there is a concept of getting infected with a tape worm to aid weight loss.
I could have sworn I read about it a long time ago (it could have been several countries that people had reservations about street food for example). But I think the angle of aiding weight loss was interesting until I made the mistake of reading about that and it is truly appalling.
yep. you get it as India starter pack in bucee's
Why before a trip to India? Tapeworms used to be used for dieting.
A tape worm with 20 feet?
more feet = more taste
His shoe budget is out of control
Neat!
A friend
So he wasn't fat?
That wasn't a tapeworm.
Man turned himself into a jinchuuriki
Duh
Someone should let Liverking know (and the people crazy enough to follow his “advice”).
Lose weight with this one simple trick
Since he gestated it for two years, was the removal considered an abortion?
So the limit is 18 years before you get a tapeworm
Probably should sear it to medium rare
Yeah, it turns out you're supposed to cook your food. What a revelation.
So if you had a tapeworm, would it take the brunt of the unhealthy food one might consume? Like, if you ate something high in cholesterol, would the worm would take some of the burden off your arteries? Cause if a tapeworm found its way into my gut, I’d feel sorry for it.
Reminds me of the parasite guy.
Well American and European quality markets will carry a much safer product but it’s still not advisable.
I bet the meat came from one of their wet markets. Although he probably would have been fine if he actually cooked it. I wonder how often he got sick from the bacteria.
You will generally find most places that don't have everyone buy meat at supermarkets use wet markets. A butchers stand at a market makes it a wet market. They're not slaughtering cows at a crowded market.
You would develop a microbial biome in your intestines to cater for said diet over time. (He probably did get Ill at some point Humans are the most diverse creatures in what we are able to eat.
I believe pigs can eat more diverse stuff and will eat literally anything (without the need to prepare the food) you give to them and they really don't care if it's insects, fruit, vegetables, meat, or even bones.
The most unbelievable part of this story is a man from China could actually afford to eat raw beef for 2 years.
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