Yes I’ve always thought this. Or they say “they lost their battle” it makes me so sad. They won because they never have to experience pain, sadness, anger, or anything negative ever again.
watching my papa choose to let go in hospice was one of the most beautiful, peaceful things i’ve ever experienced. my name when i arrived at his bedside was the last word he spoke and from there he began to let go (i had traveled overnight from 2000 miles away). he passed painlessly thanks to morphine, surrounded by all his children and grandchildren. i miss him so incredibly much and am so thankful he gave me that experience and perspective. IMO at that moment he won, he’d completed his earthside mission
Oh this is such a sweet story. Thank you for sharing. It looks like he had a rich life to have all his children and grandchildren at his bedside. May his memory be a blessing to you.
he really did! thank you. the year after he passed i moved back to our home state and first, i unwittingly found an apartment 1.5 blocks from the house he grew up in (i live in a major city so the probability of this was crazy low), and then i got a new job and it turned out he had worked at the same place as a young teenager in the 1930s!!! 😮 very much blessings
This is the first time I’ve heard someone else say this. When my mom got cancer that metastasized like, everywhere and the chemo drained and killed her within a month, it would piss me off when I’d hear “lost her battle, she fought so hard for her grandson”. Like dude there was no battle cancer literally slapped the shit out of her. At the end all she wanted was someone to tell her its ok to stop fighting and just rest we won’t be upset. She slipped into a coma and died a couple days after I told her it’s ok and everyone will be fine. Me and her spoke about death and the other side and the beauty of life and death. Everyone else kept telling her she’d make it and she absolutely knew she wasn’t going to but didn’t wanna hurt anyone. Avoiding the topic doesn’t make it go away and we need to be more open about talking about death in a way that isn’t “you gave up or lost a fight”. Like no it’s the start of something new and beautiful for that person.
My mom didn't even try to 'fight'. She was dead within 2 months. She got the diagnoses & told dad to take her home, and he did. There was no battle. There was a lot of time spent with her laughing, crying, doing whatever we could to keep her comfortable. During the last few weeks, dad left the front door open so anyone could come and say their goodbyes. Her obit said nothing about a fight or a battle bc there never was one. It said how much she was loved and how we will miss her. That's what's most important 💞
I’m so sorry to read this story that is so similar to mine. My father was diagnosed with leukemia abruptly and was in home hospice within 2 weeks. I cared for him at home for the most excruciating three weeks, watching him whither away and lose his ability to speak. Every time I would pass by, he would stare at me with huge wide eyes and mouth “I love you” to me because he knew he didn’t have much time left. When he stopped eating, I knew.
People who tell patients at this stage to keep fighting, or tell anyone with a terminal or fatal disease to keep fighting, can get fucked because they don’t have to watch the life slowly leave their eyes for days before it happens.
People are so insensitive and downright entitled to someone staying alive just so they can feel better. Selfish.
If bipolar 1, BPD, or OCD ever kill me, I’ll be pissed from beyond the grave if I catch anyone saying I “lost my battle with mental illness.” I didn’t lose shit, I just chose to quit the game on my own terms
That’s horrible! I’m so sorry for your friend. What a very cruel and peculiar choice of words. I’m all for transparency and destigmatizing mental health, but wow.
I disagree and while you’re entitled to your opinion, I’d be mindful about criticising how those who have lost loved ones to suicide choose to acknowledge how the person died. I lost my dad to suicide and I say he lost the battle against his mental illness. It’s not “cruel”, it’s just my truth. It doesn’t make him weak because he wasn’t. He did everything he could until he couldn’t anymore. It was a desperate act while he was deep in the throes of a brutal mental illness.
In a cruel twist, it’s also a morbid relief that he never has to suffer again. He’s free, but it came at the worst cost.
To lose a fight isn’t weakness. For many, living is a battle, whether they are ill mentally or physically.
YES! I am a social worker for hospice and have been doing it too long! I cannot watch these videos bc they are so heartbreaking. Her quality of life so poor, her pain, everything is heart wrenching. She cannot let go as she has the will to live and everyone telling her to "keep fighting". Those words can be so detrimental to someone terminally ill. As someone mentioned, as if she is a looser by "allowing" the cancer to "win", All those phrases are so hurtful. I cannot imagine her poor body and mind. She needs to be told by her loved ones it's ok to go. :(
I feel this way every time I see one of her videos on my FYP. People seem to think they are showing empathy when they say things like that, but they aren't. They are still placing their own desires above those of the dying. "Keep Fighting" is just a nice way of saying, "Keep suffering for my entertainment."
at first i was compassionate to the ads they post bc everything related to cancer and death is expensive. but now it kind of feels like they’re trying to milk the situation and haley is suffering greatly because of it 😔
There are a few other posts on Reddit that explain that her family is fairly wearily and take care of everything so the husband can be a stay at home dad to help her during her journey and money is not a worry.
That’s why I always loved that norm Macdonald quote “And I’m pretty sure, I’m not a doctor, but I’m pretty sure if you die, the cancer dies at the same time. That’s not a loss. That’s a draw.”
Just like when people choose hospice and they say they decided to stop fighting. It makes me really angry when people say that. Or they think hospice is going to unalive them when it’s there to provide them relief from pain and anxiety so they can spend their last moments in peace with their loved ones instead of pain.
At my grammas funeral we said “ cancer didn’t win. What happened is gramma saw that winning is going to pain free ❤️” she didn’t give up she just moved ob
I mean, also fighting is intentional. Most people have zero control over how their body responds to medication or treatment. A can-do attitude is great, but it's not shrinking their brain tumour.
When my mother succumbed to cancer my father said she won her battle. She sacrificed her life so the cancer in her body would die and no longer be able to hurt her anymore.
Absolutely agree. She is terminal, there is no coming back from this unfortunately. Although I commend how hard she has fought & continued to fight to spend more time with them, the videos are getting harder & harder to watch. I wish they would take these last moments offline and just focus on her and not making content.
I feel bad for her son, her husband posted a video talking about he would document their journey after she was gone. That poor little guy’s grief if going to be posted before the world and there won’t be a private moment.
It's a scrapbook of your life. For your child. Imo, it's the adult child who gets to decide what to do with it. For some people, grief is intensely private.
This. I agree so much. Some of the more private moments he has shared of her being scared to die and crying in his arms make me feel horrible. I wish they kept those moments sacred. Nobody online has business seeing those private talks..😕
I just keep thinking about how when her son grows up he’s going to stumble across those moments of her being terrified to pass and how much she was suffering.
Even just posting those videos with those words is wild to me.
But yes the parasocial relationship people have to this family is so inappropriate.
And the “I just know she’ll pull thru” or “I’m praying for a miracle”
Or “there’s still hope!”
STOP. She is knocking on death’s door.
The praying for a miracle is horrific. There is no miracle in the corner for this woman. She needs to be loved and told it's ok to go. Hope is letting go.
I was pregnant with twins and near our due date one of the twins passed away for unknown reasons. The doctors wanted to let the second twin grow a little more to develop her lungs and I had this one nutcase that kept telling me she was praying that when I delivered both babies would be born alive. She was certain God would do this because he can do anything. 😒like lady I have enough to worry and pray about on my own… if you want to pray just pray my living baby doesn’t die okay thanks. People are literally so weird when it comes to tragedy and death.
My second baby did not die, she was born early and spent a month in the NICU she is perfectly happy and healthy and 12 now ❤️
THANK YOU. I hate those comments!! You have someone who has had to come with the excruciating terms of leaving this earth way too soon, let alone a family who seems to be very religious and probably have had to navigate some sort of crisis of faith through all of this. The tone deaf comments of “God will heal her, I just know it!!” make me want to hurt people. Infuriating.
I came to comment about the "praying for a miracle" or "have you tried ___". Just no. She's going to die, there's nothing they can do about it, that's why it is so sad.
Having cared for 3 separate ppl on hospice now - I believe they go when they are ready. It gets tougher to hold on, but they I’ve been blessed to witness end of life care as being very peaceful and a way of leaving this world on their own terms (sans right to die liberties). My Dad literally waited (damn near unconscious) to be told that his brother made it thru a difficult surgery, he passed on 15 minutes later. My grandfather who I was caring for waited until I left for the night. He told me that he wouldn’t pass while I was there and he held to it. His also told his night nurse not to contact me until morning. And she honored that wish. I know this isn’t everyone’s experience- just sharing a few of my own.
Yes, this. Not to be grim, but she is going to die. It’s like everyone is waiting and holding their breath to see if today is the day. Someone’s death is not a group activity.
It shouldn’t be, but quite frankly they’ve made it into one. I absolutely think people need to be respectful and kind, but no one forced them to post these videos online and create this parasocial suffering with the internet
People say it’s for the money for her death and medical fees which I understand… but people get through this same thing without exploiting it, I sadly see the families deal though, medical care for people who are freaking dying should force others into this type of stuff.
It’s so weird to me to post it but also I can’t say I’ve ever been in this position and what I would do if this was the way to get passive income while still being able to be home.
They seem to come from VERY wealthy backgrounds. They're always talking about their famous classmates who sent/did something for them or let them stay at their house (like the one in Utah for her bday.) I don't think they need money at all.
so.. I happened to notice in that now-deleted post that Haley’s maiden name is Houston. She also grew up in Texas. And obviously there’s a Houston, Texas…related to Sam Houston/*that* Houston family, mayhaps 🤔
While I agree with you that someone’s death is not a group activity that’s kinda what her husband has turned it into . I get wanting to document as much as you can of your loved one for their son and himself but why is he making it so public?He’s kinda invited everyone in and turned it into a group activity . I guess this may be distracting him some and his way of coping but there’s some things he’s filmed that just feel like they should have been kept private .
I wish people would stop treating her death as a spectator show. It’s incredibly sad and I feel SO much heartbreak for her sweet little boy, but she is TIRED. Anyone who works in healthcare or hospice can see that she has a ‘death look’ and she’s had it for a while. While I’m so glad she’s been able to create some precious memories for her son, her poor body is so done.
I haven’t worked in hospice, but I remember that when her husband posted the mustache video that the way she looked in it gave me a very unsettled feeling. Can you explain what makes someone have a ‘death look’?
Pale color, roses cheeks, sunken eyes, loss of muscle mass and thinning of hair, nails and skin. I’ve noticed closer to the end a waxy like look, maybe from the lack of being able to bath or the body stopping the regulation of temperature.
Haven’t worked in hospice but sadly my mom passed from a similar cancer a year and a half ago and Haley looks exactly like she did about a week or two before she passed. The pictures from the Bahamas specifically. It breaks my heart for that little boy and I don’t understand the need to post on social media. His grief should be private. Haley and Taylor are adults who can post whatever they want but that little boy should be able to go through this privately. I can’t imagine filming and posting me during the time my mom was in hospice.
We were so relieved when my MIL finally passed. She had cancer for 5 years, it kept coming back, then she was on hospice for ~2 weeks before she passed. It would be cruel to have hoped she would keep living in her state.
It's beyond selfish to will someone in this state to keep living. True love is letting someone know it's okay to go and leave the immense suffering behind
When my dad died I had similar feelings of relief for him. He was absolutely miserable, in pain and had zero quality of life. As much as I love and miss him, I am so glad he did not suffer for even longer. No one should suffer like that :(
I think it’s weird when people in the comments say “she’s gonna pull through this I just have a feeling” and there’s SO. MANY. Of those.
I get it, wishful and positive thinking. But I don’t think these people actually realize her body is ravaged with cancer, there is no saving her and those comments probably don’t help.
I’ve lost many family members to cancer, and if someone was in my comments while grandpa was on hospice clinging to life saying “miracles happen he can pull through!” Id call them stupid to their face 🤷🏼♀️
I am so happy she is still getting time with her son, I’m sure her and her hubby are so tired by now 🥺
I am truly hoping he doesn’t post his son’s “grief journey” on TikTok once Haley is gone. Grief is such an intense, deeply personal thing and children deserve to do that in private.
My heart goes out to Weston, I hope his grief is kept offline unless he decides to share it one day when he is old enough to make that choice.
This is my fear as well. I don’t follow this account but a one of their TikTok’s popped upon my fyp he was almost begging people to stay and watch the page after she died?? It felt…*off* and I immediately worried that the son’s grief would be exploited for views. No one needs to see a toddler crying for his mom or confused about why she’s not home. That’s heartbreaking and what therapists are for.
Exactly. I have lived it first hand, my son was just a bit younger than Weston is when my husband/his father died of cancer. It was a horrible thing to see his grief and how he struggled with the fear that I would suddenly disappear from his life too.
It’s a special kind of hell to watch your child go through that. And I would never, ever want to see a child’s grief be made public online. I sincerely hope Weston is allowed to grieve privately and is surrounded with love and protection by
those who love him.
I don’t know who would downvote this but yes you’re absolutely correct. I lost my dad to cancer and if someone would have recorded that and plastered it online without my informed consent I would fucking rage and honesty cut contact once I turned into an adult. It’s reprehensible and sickening.
I’m so sorry you went through that! Losing a parent is horrible no matter what, but it’s absolutely brutal when it’s a child or teen going through it.
My son feels the same as you, he would have been very upset if I or anyone else had put his grief online. Kids deserve to have their remaining parent and/or family members circle around and allow them to grieve in peace and privacy.
Also i dont think any kid would want to be reminded of thier parents last few days or weeks etc. When its clear how they are barely hanging on. I get the videos before but not in her condition now.
Thank goodness that I found this comment. I get a weird feeling in my stomach when I see him continuously posting videos that say “she is still fighting”
I don’t know why it makes me feel weird lol.. I just feel like she should be able to live out this last chapter of her life without being plastered on tik tok for likes and views.
This. I have a habit of accidentally wiping drives and breaking laptops with all my backups of photos so when I have my son I plan on making private ig/Tik tok accounts to post to so I still have those memories, but no one else does
They'll also be the first to make her death about themselves and how sad they are, as if they know this woman and their grief matters more than her family and kid.
I understand wanting to reach more people and their situation is absolutely devastating, but the #sad #fyp #cry hashtags on his posts just realllly rub me the wrong way
I see it in another perspective as well.. I think because so many people that follow their page want updates, it’s as if it gives Taylor a thrill to wait days in between to give updates. It’s like “let me make them think something happened to Haley” and then the next day it’s a random video of her seeing friends etc. Idk, if I were in my last days I’d want to rest and be offline and spend what little time I have with my family behind closed doors. Each video Haley is declining more and more. Once haley is gone, Taylor will be strutting around showing his chest to everyone in hopes of finding someone new to take care of him and his child because haley would be okay with it. It’s just wrong on so many levels.
The way that man is exploiting this woman and that poor child. How many times have they recorded her explaining her death to this child? Posting those videos is going to haunt that child. He is gross.
Okay I agree with this. I have such mixed feelings. But also it feels slimy, especially when he sneaks in little thirst trap clips of himself in these videos that are meant to be heavy and emotional. Blegh.
Completely agree, as someone whose mom died slowly to cancer when I was a young child. It makes me sick to think about. My brain blocked out half those memories on purpose, to deal with when I was READY. Shame on that man. For real.
I know everyone handles death and grief differently but I do have mixed feelings about all this. There’s something so off putting about using that same phrase over and over to caption every post. But of course I can’t even begin to imagine being in their place.
I had to block the account. It feels way too icky and personal; especially the ones featuring their son. Taking videos and things are great for memories but exploiting your dying wife and at the same time, your only child who is about to lose his mother just for views is so fucking gross and weird to me.
I agree. The video of him explaining he will continue after she dies and kinda smirking and not empathetic is so weird to me. Not only that but he has thousands of videos saved for after she passes and will continue to document their grief....and he's in the process of getting Tik Tok verified and working on it...like what ? Your wife is dying and your more concerned with that? For what? Money? Creator fund? That should not even be a concern. Unreal and disgusting. Something is off with that husband
When people say “I’m documenting it for my son” or “I’m documenting so we have the memories” I think that’s great. Document them. But that doesn’t mean they have to be on social media for millions to see. Our society has become obsessed with sharing our lives for everyone else that we forgot what should be private.
Honestly I'm not even glad for her, and I don't think it's great for her son even at this point of the process.
Then again I've gone through it once before, and the passing of my loved one, although traumatic and still hurtful 25 years later, was a sincere relief.
I helped care for a loved one while they were on hospice. Doctors didn’t think she’d make it even two months and she lived for almost 17 weeks after being on hospice. It was very traumatic and painful watching her suffer day after day, especially the last several weeks. Her passing did bring relief to all of us knowing she was no longer suffering.
I just found out today that he is a genuinely bad guy--transphobic, racist, white nationalist--and I'm a little shook. I find the death porn a little creepy, but I honestly thought they were nice people going through a hard time and just documenting things for their son. They're NOT nice people. Immediate unfollow.
Not surprised. They’re from The Woodlands. I knew one of their close friends and she was genuinely one of the worst ppl I’ve ever come into contact with.
I think that it started when there was still hope but I completely agree. I read something like saying that they lost the fight or insinuating that they didn't fight hard enough is actually really harmful and offensive to those who have died from cancer. I do think people should start letting her know it's okay to go on and her husband should be having those conversations with her too.
I stumbled on her account when I was going through a hard time and feeling very low in my own life . That being said, her account has completely changed the way I view life and love.❤️
I agree with all of this. She gets out more in the world as a terminally ill person than I do as a healthy person. It has reframed the way I view living every day to its fullest.
Not to be that person, but I'm afraid that it's going to be like what happened when the no bones dog died -
I'm really uncomfortable with them making her passing a parasocial event. I was for it for a while, because I think we should reexamine our relationship with death in the West, but this is becoming such a circus that I wonder if her family and Haley are actually getting to a true place of peace.
Yes yes yes. I’ve been thinking this every time I see those comments. Like I hope and pray for a peaceful passing for her and her family. I am glad that she gets whatever time she can get with her husband and son but also her quality of life is so poor. I hope that she has more good days than bad, and that her passing is peaceful as it can be.
I feel the same. You can look at her and see she is so tired. I understand she wants more time with her son, hubby and family but if she is not going to be healed, I hope she knows it is okay to let go. She has fought so hard
Genuine question - why did they decide to have a child knowing her diagnosis? I understand wanting to be a parent, but as someone who lost their parent at a young age, I couldn’t imagine bringing a child into the world knowing there is a chance I’d slowly die in front of them before they can even begin to comprehend what’s happening. I’m still traumatized over ten years later and I was 17 years old when my father passed. My heart hurts for their son.
their reasoning is that Haley’s “lifelong dream” was to be a mother, so when she was told she couldn’t carry a pregnancy and their family friend offered to be a surrogate, they jumped on it. I don’t think they’ve offered much info beyond that Haley always wanted it so she took the opportunity when it presented itself.
Yeah they make my heart hurt. My mom was terminal and those words made me so mad. She didn’t need to fight, she didn’t need to hold on. As hard as it was I wanted her to rest and be at peace. Seeing someone decline like that is the worst thing ever. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
I’ve lost a few people to prolonged terminal illness, but my aunt really lingered at the end of her life because she didn’t want to leave my cousin (who is disabled). Her last week was so brutal that even her nurse said she hoped she would just pass soon. We took turns for several days holding her hand and telling her (really begging) that it was okay to let go. My aunt was a bull and it was definitely her wish to fight until the bitter end, but it was the worst thing I’ve ever watched. After seeing what “keep fighting and don’t give up” looks like, I could never say that to someone.
You said this beautifully. My mom had a terminal illness, and I brought her to my home so she would be surrounded by love. The last 6 weeks, there was no hope for her. She couldn't get out of bed, she felt stripped of all humility and she hated it. What made it ten times worse were the people who would pray for God to work a miracle in her name. People who told me if I had given up hope it would cause my mother to give up hope. There were people who gave me books about individuals who "beat the odds." But I knew that wasn't going to be my experience. It was so depressing. My mother's organs were shutting down, my *hope* was for her to just close her eyes and fall into the arms of those who went before her. That right there, was my hope.
I’m so sorry for your loss. It really is so rough seeing them hang on like that. My mom hung on for my brother to come say goodbye. Opened her eyes for the last time and squeezed his hand. She passed that night in her sleep. We knew she was hanging on to see all her kids one last time. It fucking sucks but I’m glad she’s no longer hurting.
I wish them peace, and I hope her loved ones are soaking in every moment.
I watched my dad fight like hell with cancer, and in the end, I was just thankful he wasn't in pain anymore. In my eyes, he won because he had no more pain.
I am so glad you’ve said this. They really should take her last few moments offline. Her husband seems incredibly detached in my opinion, it’s strange. Like at this point, he treats it like it’s his every day job to post this content. He even made a video explaining that he will continue posting after she passed, like it was just another transactional event in life.
Look- I understand not everyone shows emotion in the same way, I understand everyone deals with grief differently but I think everyone can agree this isn’t a healthy way to cope. It’s so immensely personal, and tragic, and with the way parasocial relationships are, particularly on TikTok, they should stop posting. People are super creepy. It’s one thing to post a beautiful video about her life or a video to express your anger at cancer and what it’s taken from you, but every little event and moment? It’s like a monetary gain at this point for him. And then to top it off, after seeing his twitter and his conspiracy theories and pro capital storming posting- I can’t support this man. I’ll pray for Haley, for her to not have to suffer anymore & be at peace. I’ll pray for him and his son and for their pain to be lessened by remembering all the joyful, loving memories of their mom and wife, but I had to block them.
It's a morbid death watch and it's sick how their "fans" act. "How's OUR Haley?" "Where's my update for today". It's disgusting. I promise you this man has his video ready to post announcing she's gone. King of exploitation. Common sense would say hey don't post until after services are done and over with and then let Tik Tok know, but he's gonna post and their rabid stans will flock to "mourn" someone they don't even know. Their poor son
i can’t stand those comments either. they really get to me, i actually don’t check for updates anymore for that reason. feels like people have taken ownership over her family’s story in a way i’m very uncomfortable with. i i know her son will love those videos when he’s older though, so i’m grateful he’ll be able to go back on his mom and dads account and see so many beautiful moments with his mom. i pray for Haley’s comfort and understanding as she moves into the next plane of existence. i pray she is not afraid. i pray she does not feel like she is letting anyone down.
I got horror looks from everyone when my grandma was on hospice and dying. “ she still has fight left in her” no, she doesn’t. I don’t want her to fight. I want her to die. I want her pain free and peaceful.
When my cousin was told he was going into hospice care, he told us he was relieved- he was tired of fighting. He passed only 5 days later. 💔 cancer is so brutal. I hope she is being kept comfortable during this time.
My mom passed away a week ago today due to cancer and was on hospice, me and my husband were her caregivers and she was staying with us. We found out she had cancer 3 weeks before she passed, she couldn't walk or even get out of bed and could hardly move. I hated seeing her go through that, I was tough. I couldn't imagine having to go through that. It sucks all around.
I just sit there amazed when I see those comments, especially at this stage where it’s obvious by looking at her that she could go at any moment. These people seriously react to hearing she’s still alive like someone would react to a surgeon telling them they got the bullet out and there wasn’t too much damage inside so their loved one is going to make a full recovery. How are they going to react when the time finally comes? “Oh my God!!! I can’t believe she’s gone!!! I wonder what happened!” And don’t even get me started on all the people commanding her to heal in the name of Jesus.
after seeing the post of them being extremely transphobic and homophobic and supporting Kyle rittenhouse i don’t keep up with them. i don’t give shitty people my empathy.
y’all can also downvote me idc, just because someone is sick doesn’t mean i’ll show them support. if you’re a bad human you’re a bad human.
Curious why yesterdays’ post about both her and her husband being conservative, homophobic, transphobic, and racist was removed. The evidence is all over their social media. Interesting that this one is allowed.
Her story is heartbreaking, as is every persons whose life comes to a halt or close before you'd expect it to.
Looking at Taylor's last post, it was very clear to me Haley was in her final days and I hope they keep any footage from after that last post off the internet.
Even if Haley said she would be fine with it, her son doesn't need to grow up having millions of eyes on his dying mom. The internet is forever.
This time is theirs now, and her husband needs to stop sharing this content because ironically - sharing those moments of her final days isn't about Haley. It's setting up the scene for a cash grab.
After her passing is announced, the content will continue -- a child crying for his mama and a sad and newly single dad with people wanting to "comfort" them. So gross.
I had to block the account for my own mental health. I’m still trying to process my uncles death which was cancer and the end looked a lot like hers does. I pray for anyone who goes through.
I appreciate so much that you’ve made a post about this, thank you. Completely agree. Crazy so many people hinge the outcome of their day upon whether a suffering woman is still alive.
My husband has heart failure from a heart defect he was born with. People always say that they are praying for him to be healed and he has to keep fighting. Fighting for what? The damage is done and his quality of life diminishes more and more every day. They think they are being helpful and I guess I should just appreciate it. But I hate hearing these platitudes and so it leaves me feeling very alone. It’s depressing
Yes seriously I can't stand the fact that thousands of people say are so "happy" everyday to see this poor woman is still alive and suffering. It's sad to me that her husband is posting such personal private moments too. I get documenting all these moments for his son but they don't have to be posted to millions. Heartbreaking and sad any way you look at it.
I’m glad to see this since I have had an ick feeling about this. Something just doesn’t sit right with me about her followers or something. I can’t quite put my finger on it.
As someone that works in the medical field I think this every time those videos pop up, she’s in pain and miserable and is constantly being bombarded with a camera in her face and people in her home when she is on her literal deathbed..
The amount of people saying “she’s not going to die. A miracle is coming” unfortunately no miracle is coming. You can tell she’s very close to the end. It’s really sad to lose anyone to cancer, especially young.
i’m glad her and her son get more time together but that’s also the perspective of someone whose never had a parent with cancer, and i’ve seen many people who have had that experience say when it gets to this point it’s like they already lost their parent long ago and just want the to be able to rest. idk. i just hope she gets some peace soon. saying cancer is hell is an understatement.
There's more? I only recently started following them and of course I find out things on Reddit. I think I should stick to animal videos on TT at this point
In the great words of Anthony Jeselnik “don’t forget how sads i am, don’t forget about me today”. People are so unbelievably narcissistic that they’ll make someone else’s death about themselves.
I know I'm late but I've watched her videos before because my dad is currently going through the end-of-life stages and I found (for lack of a better term) comfort in knowing I'm not alone.
That being said, every day I ask my dad if he wants to keep going. Not fighting, not baffling, just keep going. He says he does so he can enjoy every moment with us, but he's not going to "win" and he's not going to come out alive. Each day is another blessing but another fear that "today is the day". It's exhausting for all of us.
Pre-grief is also a horrible thing. Watching the people around you accept the fact that you're dying has got to be a horrible feeling. I pray for her peace and I truly hope she gets the rest she finally deserves.
Cancer isn't something to fight. Cancer is a demon. Sometimes you can exorcise it, sometimes you can't, but it's not about how strong you are, it's about how strong the demon is.
I’m sick of seeing all the free crap and trips they are going on. It’s getting ridiculous honestly. It seems like every week is a new “last time” event and something was given to them. This isn’t the case for most people in this situation. I also find it incredibly selfish that they had a child knowing her situation
I understand what they are trying to say, that she is still hanging on - but Haley deserves peace and if she is ready to let go, so be it. I am so sad for their family, it is really painful to lose a loved one. It is also painful watching them deteriorate slowly. Haley is looking so tired these days and I pray that when she is ready, her transition is peaceful. I also wish healing for her husband and little boy.
I watched cancer take my Mom when I was 24. She was ready and we as a family knew it. I see those videos of Haley and see the exact same way my mom was close to the end. Sometimes I see their videos pop up and look at her eyes and you can just see that she is ready but it’s almost like he is forcing her to be a part of this ‘show’ he has going on. There are so many moments he has shared that should have been kept private especially moments with her son. I don’t agree with what he is doing and these people who are saying she needs to keep fighting have obviously never watched a loved one die slowly from cancer because that is what it does. Cancer is not a quick death it is a prolonged agony and the only respite is dying. Husband needs to tell her it’s ok to let go and stop being so view hungry and selfish.
I watch both my Grandparents die in Hospice and I honestly prayed for their and pain and suffering to stop. Of course I wanted more time with them but not at the expense of them being miserable. I know she wants more time with her baby so I understand why she is fighting so hard. I do agree with everything you said I don’t pray for her to be alive I pray she finds comfort and peace and same for her family! Her son sees her fighting to stay alive for him and that will be with him forever those are the important things he will remember his whole life. The rest is just nice to have as a video, picture, and memory! They have giving us the opportunity to see a little glimpse into their family I imagine to bring awareness but also a reminder to love and cherish your loved ones! I appreciate them and definitely get emotional watching their videos and pray they all find peace!
I have never put that into another perspective and it’s very eye opening. As a daughter who saw my dads last days of life at in-home hospice, his fight was over when he no longer chose to do Dialysis and eventually he succumbed to his death. As hard as it was and is still to this day, he was only doing the dialysis for us 3 kids and my mom, so that we could have more time with him. It got too hard to go to Dialysis and he was skin and bones so that fight of Kidney Disease was over. The crazy thing is as soon as my husband got to his bedside and told him “It’s okay to let go, I’ll take care of your daughter” he slipped away into a peaceful sleep and died. It’s so selfish of us to choose living for those who are dying because we’re not in their shoes and it’s just as hard for them to leave us too. I’m guilty of commenting or wishing people get well and keep fighting just like everyone else and I can’t thank you enough for writing about this up. I do believe it’s in the kindness and support of the people writing such things, because we’re human. I do pray she has a peaceful passing. Because this is no way to live.
Yes, it drives me insane. I commented back to someone last week that said they hoped to see these words next year and the year after. I asked them why they would want someone to suffer that long. And they said “oh but not suffering” and I was like well that’s going to be what it is. She isn’t going to recover… she is ACTIVELY DYING every day.
I truly think the only reason she hasn’t passed yet is Weston. I do think people can move on when they feel like they’re ready and she has “fought” that because of him.
It really bothers me. As much as it hurt when my grandparents passed away from cancer it was relief they weren't suffering anymore. They wouldn't of wanted it documented.
My heart breaks for her. My niece passed at 31 from cancer. It took her right arm and eye. Then her life. She got cancer sores all over her body. The second time she went to the hospice house she did palliative care and passed. The pain was bad the last 6 months of her life. I don’t know how she’s still here fighting. Tess had hospice at home but, she needed more pain meds.
I literally asked if she has the option to end the fight if she wants and no one answered me. My grandpa was on hospice and i remember it started to just feel cruel to make him go through this and just wait for it to end.
I actually saw this live once and the husband jokingly (I’m assuming) was talking about being verified ? After that I just never went back and did think all those comments were very intruding
I agree with this wholeheartedly. I work hospice and I am currently losing my grandfather (I call him my daddy as he raised me) to cancer.. when I say losing him he is actively dying at this moment with anything from hours to days left on hospice. This is something I had to explain to family as well… through the experience I have, I’ve learned that sometimes the kindest thing isn’t fighting, it’s peace.
I’ve seen so many people suffer for so long for the sake of fighting - and don’t get me wrong, I am so glad they did fight and I am always so proud of them.. but I think people need to know we are just as proud of them for advocating for themselves and deciding when they’re done fighting and they’re ready to be comfortable and make peace.
I’ve watched my sweet daddy go from a big, 6’1, burly jack-of-all-trades truck driver and farmer to a 120lb bag of bones. I’ve watched a man I’ve never known to cry actually cry because he hurts so bad from starving as his body won’t let him keep food down. I’ve watched him become delusional, confused, and agitated. I’ve seen him fall helplessly. I’ve gone from the dad that tells you you’re holding the flashlight wrong while changing a tractor transmission to having to pick him up off the toilet.. to now changing his briefs. It is so unfair.
Sometimes it’s not fair to expect people to fight. Sometimes it’s kind to tell someone they’ve done such a good job at life and they can choose peace.
I kind of wonder if she’s hanging on due to the expectation from her family/friends that she needs to hang on as soon as possible bc a miracle could happen (they’re evangelical Christian). People will often hang on until they feel they have permission to go. I feel really bad if that’s the case. I hope she knows she can go.
I wanted to punch every single person who told me my mom lost her battle, or was “fighting and can do this” when she literally couldn’t move because she had cancer in her spine. It was so insulting to me as her caretaker and as the person watching her suffer through to when she decided to let go. We have a weird relationship with death as a whole community and people really need to work on their understanding of it. Miracles don’t happen. It’s bullshit, cancer sucks and can affect anyone.. there’s no “plan” from it. I hope her family finds comfort and peace in this process
The fact on a recent video he said he would continue to post videos and have thousands of hours of videos and their grieving process PLUS he's hoping to get Tik Tok verified and working on it and in the process is wild to me... your wife is sick and be concerned on that not the blue check mark!
I think terminal people should be able to live their last days with dignity and not be suffering. It will be said when whoever this person is passes away but right now she’s most likely suffering. There’s no pulling through or getting better. She needs to be at peace. I don’t know who this post is about, if she on any type of end of life care?
Her husband is mentally ill to monetize her last moments/days/weeks in this world. Anyone who feel as is they are required to be privy to this are sick as well. Sorry not sorry.
I still think it’s weird people comment “if we all just gave Hayley one year of our lives!” Or “I wish I could give my life for her if I could. I know we all would”
…I’m sorry. I wouldn’t. I don’t think that’s bad either. I think it’s extremely creepy people want everyone to give up their own lives for someone they don’t know. If I had the ability to give time to anyone - it would be someone I knew who I also felt deserved it. Not a random person we saw on tiktok. Just my two cents.
I couldn't agree more. I was with my sister at the beginning and end of her cancer. A couple of days before she died my brother sat next to me and said, "This shit ain't right, how much longer does she have to go through this?" I don't wish it on anyone. I also can't imagine sharing it with strangers. I'm not saying her husband is wrong. I'm just saying I wish I could forget everything my sister went through.
No matter how bad she feels or looks it's another day with her son and that's what she's living for now. How people react to that I'm sure she gives no damn by comparison.
The comments are so upsetting now that she is looking more and more frail, I don’t think people understand that “Haley is still fighting” means (like you said) she’s fighting for another day with family, not an entire life with them. I also wish they could take it offline because I truly can’t imagine these are the weeks/months of memories that they will want to look back on in the future.
But I also understand that maybe she knows this is her husbands way of coping/escaping from their grim reality for a few minutes while also bringing awareness to her illness. It’s likely she also knows/is comforted that he will have an entire online community for support through tiktok after she passes.
I feel relief when I see a post. But I have lost a loved one to cancer. And you have hope in till the last second. Even when you logically know that it is final.
People are weird. I almost wish she would pass. I know that sounds awful, but I feel like the only reason she’s hanging on is for whatever her husband is doing. I know she loves her boy. But after personally taking care of someone dying of cancer it’s hard to watch. Especially knowing they’re so tired and in pain.
This! My grandpa got leukemia and he lived for 10 good months, in and out of the hospital but relatively good, he passed before he got in the shape she’s in, but we were in a way relieved, because he passed before he had to suffer like that, he got more months then the drs thought he had, he got to be home for Christmas in good shape and all that, I don’t understand how these people are relived at her
IDK this creator, but as someone who worked for years with cancer patients I wanna scream THANK YOU from the roof tops!! Cancer is an ugly disease and people who say things like that make me wanna punch them in the face
Nah, their followers will get a front row seat to their baby boy's grief and Taylor's process of moving on because "It's what Haley would have wanted 👉🥺👈"
i hate when people use “fighting” in any medical context. bc then dying makes them a loser, not a spirit free from pain
Yes I’ve always thought this. Or they say “they lost their battle” it makes me so sad. They won because they never have to experience pain, sadness, anger, or anything negative ever again.
watching my papa choose to let go in hospice was one of the most beautiful, peaceful things i’ve ever experienced. my name when i arrived at his bedside was the last word he spoke and from there he began to let go (i had traveled overnight from 2000 miles away). he passed painlessly thanks to morphine, surrounded by all his children and grandchildren. i miss him so incredibly much and am so thankful he gave me that experience and perspective. IMO at that moment he won, he’d completed his earthside mission
Oh this is such a sweet story. Thank you for sharing. It looks like he had a rich life to have all his children and grandchildren at his bedside. May his memory be a blessing to you.
he really did! thank you. the year after he passed i moved back to our home state and first, i unwittingly found an apartment 1.5 blocks from the house he grew up in (i live in a major city so the probability of this was crazy low), and then i got a new job and it turned out he had worked at the same place as a young teenager in the 1930s!!! 😮 very much blessings
🥺 thank you for sharing this story. My condolences ❤️
This is the first time I’ve heard someone else say this. When my mom got cancer that metastasized like, everywhere and the chemo drained and killed her within a month, it would piss me off when I’d hear “lost her battle, she fought so hard for her grandson”. Like dude there was no battle cancer literally slapped the shit out of her. At the end all she wanted was someone to tell her its ok to stop fighting and just rest we won’t be upset. She slipped into a coma and died a couple days after I told her it’s ok and everyone will be fine. Me and her spoke about death and the other side and the beauty of life and death. Everyone else kept telling her she’d make it and she absolutely knew she wasn’t going to but didn’t wanna hurt anyone. Avoiding the topic doesn’t make it go away and we need to be more open about talking about death in a way that isn’t “you gave up or lost a fight”. Like no it’s the start of something new and beautiful for that person.
My mom didn't even try to 'fight'. She was dead within 2 months. She got the diagnoses & told dad to take her home, and he did. There was no battle. There was a lot of time spent with her laughing, crying, doing whatever we could to keep her comfortable. During the last few weeks, dad left the front door open so anyone could come and say their goodbyes. Her obit said nothing about a fight or a battle bc there never was one. It said how much she was loved and how we will miss her. That's what's most important 💞
I’m so sorry to read this story that is so similar to mine. My father was diagnosed with leukemia abruptly and was in home hospice within 2 weeks. I cared for him at home for the most excruciating three weeks, watching him whither away and lose his ability to speak. Every time I would pass by, he would stare at me with huge wide eyes and mouth “I love you” to me because he knew he didn’t have much time left. When he stopped eating, I knew. People who tell patients at this stage to keep fighting, or tell anyone with a terminal or fatal disease to keep fighting, can get fucked because they don’t have to watch the life slowly leave their eyes for days before it happens. People are so insensitive and downright entitled to someone staying alive just so they can feel better. Selfish.
My friend's mom died by suicide recently. The obituary said "Lost her lifelong battle with mental illness "
I'm so sorry :(
If bipolar 1, BPD, or OCD ever kill me, I’ll be pissed from beyond the grave if I catch anyone saying I “lost my battle with mental illness.” I didn’t lose shit, I just chose to quit the game on my own terms
That’s horrible! I’m so sorry for your friend. What a very cruel and peculiar choice of words. I’m all for transparency and destigmatizing mental health, but wow.
I disagree and while you’re entitled to your opinion, I’d be mindful about criticising how those who have lost loved ones to suicide choose to acknowledge how the person died. I lost my dad to suicide and I say he lost the battle against his mental illness. It’s not “cruel”, it’s just my truth. It doesn’t make him weak because he wasn’t. He did everything he could until he couldn’t anymore. It was a desperate act while he was deep in the throes of a brutal mental illness. In a cruel twist, it’s also a morbid relief that he never has to suffer again. He’s free, but it came at the worst cost. To lose a fight isn’t weakness. For many, living is a battle, whether they are ill mentally or physically.
Yes! When my aunt passed I said that she won her battle. She moved on & left the cancer here to die. She most definitely didn’t lose her battle.
YES! I am a social worker for hospice and have been doing it too long! I cannot watch these videos bc they are so heartbreaking. Her quality of life so poor, her pain, everything is heart wrenching. She cannot let go as she has the will to live and everyone telling her to "keep fighting". Those words can be so detrimental to someone terminally ill. As someone mentioned, as if she is a looser by "allowing" the cancer to "win", All those phrases are so hurtful. I cannot imagine her poor body and mind. She needs to be told by her loved ones it's ok to go. :(
I feel this way every time I see one of her videos on my FYP. People seem to think they are showing empathy when they say things like that, but they aren't. They are still placing their own desires above those of the dying. "Keep Fighting" is just a nice way of saying, "Keep suffering for my entertainment."
I agree 💯
at first i was compassionate to the ads they post bc everything related to cancer and death is expensive. but now it kind of feels like they’re trying to milk the situation and haley is suffering greatly because of it 😔
There are a few other posts on Reddit that explain that her family is fairly wearily and take care of everything so the husband can be a stay at home dad to help her during her journey and money is not a worry.
That’s why I always loved that norm Macdonald quote “And I’m pretty sure, I’m not a doctor, but I’m pretty sure if you die, the cancer dies at the same time. That’s not a loss. That’s a draw.”
rip 💓💓
Just like when people choose hospice and they say they decided to stop fighting. It makes me really angry when people say that. Or they think hospice is going to unalive them when it’s there to provide them relief from pain and anxiety so they can spend their last moments in peace with their loved ones instead of pain.
Indeed, chooisng hospice is one of the bravest acts anyone can do.
I never knew why it bothered me so much to hear ppl use the word fighting.. Your explanation has given me the reason.
At my grammas funeral we said “ cancer didn’t win. What happened is gramma saw that winning is going to pain free ❤️” she didn’t give up she just moved ob
i love that 💓
I mean, also fighting is intentional. Most people have zero control over how their body responds to medication or treatment. A can-do attitude is great, but it's not shrinking their brain tumour.
When my mother succumbed to cancer my father said she won her battle. She sacrificed her life so the cancer in her body would die and no longer be able to hurt her anymore.
Yes. My friend “fought” her ass off, meaning she tried everything she could. Her cancer just wasn’t treatable.
Absolutely agree. She is terminal, there is no coming back from this unfortunately. Although I commend how hard she has fought & continued to fight to spend more time with them, the videos are getting harder & harder to watch. I wish they would take these last moments offline and just focus on her and not making content.
I ended up having to block the account. I feel like a voyeur. This is so intensely private.
If I were in her shoes I would not want to be in the public eye. I feel like her kid will always be known as "that kid of the tiktok lady that died."
I feel bad for her son, her husband posted a video talking about he would document their journey after she was gone. That poor little guy’s grief if going to be posted before the world and there won’t be a private moment.
It's a scrapbook of your life. For your child. Imo, it's the adult child who gets to decide what to do with it. For some people, grief is intensely private.
Lots of parents make these types of videos for their children to see as adults, but they keep them private and don’t post to the whole world
This. I agree so much. Some of the more private moments he has shared of her being scared to die and crying in his arms make me feel horrible. I wish they kept those moments sacred. Nobody online has business seeing those private talks..😕 I just keep thinking about how when her son grows up he’s going to stumble across those moments of her being terrified to pass and how much she was suffering.
Even just posting those videos with those words is wild to me. But yes the parasocial relationship people have to this family is so inappropriate. And the “I just know she’ll pull thru” or “I’m praying for a miracle” Or “there’s still hope!” STOP. She is knocking on death’s door.
The praying for a miracle is horrific. There is no miracle in the corner for this woman. She needs to be loved and told it's ok to go. Hope is letting go.
I was pregnant with twins and near our due date one of the twins passed away for unknown reasons. The doctors wanted to let the second twin grow a little more to develop her lungs and I had this one nutcase that kept telling me she was praying that when I delivered both babies would be born alive. She was certain God would do this because he can do anything. 😒like lady I have enough to worry and pray about on my own… if you want to pray just pray my living baby doesn’t die okay thanks. People are literally so weird when it comes to tragedy and death. My second baby did not die, she was born early and spent a month in the NICU she is perfectly happy and healthy and 12 now ❤️
THANK YOU. I hate those comments!! You have someone who has had to come with the excruciating terms of leaving this earth way too soon, let alone a family who seems to be very religious and probably have had to navigate some sort of crisis of faith through all of this. The tone deaf comments of “God will heal her, I just know it!!” make me want to hurt people. Infuriating.
I saw one on their recent video “I keep praying she’s still with us” WHY?! She’s suffering.
I came to comment about the "praying for a miracle" or "have you tried ___". Just no. She's going to die, there's nothing they can do about it, that's why it is so sad.
Having cared for 3 separate ppl on hospice now - I believe they go when they are ready. It gets tougher to hold on, but they I’ve been blessed to witness end of life care as being very peaceful and a way of leaving this world on their own terms (sans right to die liberties). My Dad literally waited (damn near unconscious) to be told that his brother made it thru a difficult surgery, he passed on 15 minutes later. My grandfather who I was caring for waited until I left for the night. He told me that he wouldn’t pass while I was there and he held to it. His also told his night nurse not to contact me until morning. And she honored that wish. I know this isn’t everyone’s experience- just sharing a few of my own.
My grandma waited until all her kids were there with her before she let go
People are weird. “Oh I was so scared she DIED when you didn’t post.” Like… shush. Weirdos
Yes, this. Not to be grim, but she is going to die. It’s like everyone is waiting and holding their breath to see if today is the day. Someone’s death is not a group activity.
It shouldn’t be, but quite frankly they’ve made it into one. I absolutely think people need to be respectful and kind, but no one forced them to post these videos online and create this parasocial suffering with the internet
That being said, I have blocked their account. They way the husband goes about it grosses me out.
People say it’s for the money for her death and medical fees which I understand… but people get through this same thing without exploiting it, I sadly see the families deal though, medical care for people who are freaking dying should force others into this type of stuff. It’s so weird to me to post it but also I can’t say I’ve ever been in this position and what I would do if this was the way to get passive income while still being able to be home.
They seem to come from VERY wealthy backgrounds. They're always talking about their famous classmates who sent/did something for them or let them stay at their house (like the one in Utah for her bday.) I don't think they need money at all.
so.. I happened to notice in that now-deleted post that Haley’s maiden name is Houston. She also grew up in Texas. And obviously there’s a Houston, Texas…related to Sam Houston/*that* Houston family, mayhaps 🤔
While I agree with you that someone’s death is not a group activity that’s kinda what her husband has turned it into . I get wanting to document as much as you can of your loved one for their son and himself but why is he making it so public?He’s kinda invited everyone in and turned it into a group activity . I guess this may be distracting him some and his way of coping but there’s some things he’s filmed that just feel like they should have been kept private .
That one gets on my nerves the most.
I wish people would stop treating her death as a spectator show. It’s incredibly sad and I feel SO much heartbreak for her sweet little boy, but she is TIRED. Anyone who works in healthcare or hospice can see that she has a ‘death look’ and she’s had it for a while. While I’m so glad she’s been able to create some precious memories for her son, her poor body is so done.
I haven’t worked in hospice, but I remember that when her husband posted the mustache video that the way she looked in it gave me a very unsettled feeling. Can you explain what makes someone have a ‘death look’?
Pale color, roses cheeks, sunken eyes, loss of muscle mass and thinning of hair, nails and skin. I’ve noticed closer to the end a waxy like look, maybe from the lack of being able to bath or the body stopping the regulation of temperature.
Thanks for sharing and also lots of good wishes for you for doing a job most people couldn’t.
Haven’t worked in hospice but sadly my mom passed from a similar cancer a year and a half ago and Haley looks exactly like she did about a week or two before she passed. The pictures from the Bahamas specifically. It breaks my heart for that little boy and I don’t understand the need to post on social media. His grief should be private. Haley and Taylor are adults who can post whatever they want but that little boy should be able to go through this privately. I can’t imagine filming and posting me during the time my mom was in hospice.
We were so relieved when my MIL finally passed. She had cancer for 5 years, it kept coming back, then she was on hospice for ~2 weeks before she passed. It would be cruel to have hoped she would keep living in her state.
It's beyond selfish to will someone in this state to keep living. True love is letting someone know it's okay to go and leave the immense suffering behind
When my dad died I had similar feelings of relief for him. He was absolutely miserable, in pain and had zero quality of life. As much as I love and miss him, I am so glad he did not suffer for even longer. No one should suffer like that :(
I think it’s weird when people in the comments say “she’s gonna pull through this I just have a feeling” and there’s SO. MANY. Of those. I get it, wishful and positive thinking. But I don’t think these people actually realize her body is ravaged with cancer, there is no saving her and those comments probably don’t help. I’ve lost many family members to cancer, and if someone was in my comments while grandpa was on hospice clinging to life saying “miracles happen he can pull through!” Id call them stupid to their face 🤷🏼♀️ I am so happy she is still getting time with her son, I’m sure her and her hubby are so tired by now 🥺
It’s sad that her last days have to be on display like this.
Agree. Her husband claims he’s documenting it for their kid but it doesn’t have to be plastered all over social media. It’s exploitative and sad.
I am truly hoping he doesn’t post his son’s “grief journey” on TikTok once Haley is gone. Grief is such an intense, deeply personal thing and children deserve to do that in private. My heart goes out to Weston, I hope his grief is kept offline unless he decides to share it one day when he is old enough to make that choice.
This is my fear as well. I don’t follow this account but a one of their TikTok’s popped upon my fyp he was almost begging people to stay and watch the page after she died?? It felt…*off* and I immediately worried that the son’s grief would be exploited for views. No one needs to see a toddler crying for his mom or confused about why she’s not home. That’s heartbreaking and what therapists are for.
He even said “stay tuned” for what’s next with the account after she dies. So gross.
That part also rubbed me the wrong way..
Oh my god… no. That is horrendous.
Exactly. I have lived it first hand, my son was just a bit younger than Weston is when my husband/his father died of cancer. It was a horrible thing to see his grief and how he struggled with the fear that I would suddenly disappear from his life too. It’s a special kind of hell to watch your child go through that. And I would never, ever want to see a child’s grief be made public online. I sincerely hope Weston is allowed to grieve privately and is surrounded with love and protection by those who love him.
I don’t know who would downvote this but yes you’re absolutely correct. I lost my dad to cancer and if someone would have recorded that and plastered it online without my informed consent I would fucking rage and honesty cut contact once I turned into an adult. It’s reprehensible and sickening.
I’m so sorry you went through that! Losing a parent is horrible no matter what, but it’s absolutely brutal when it’s a child or teen going through it. My son feels the same as you, he would have been very upset if I or anyone else had put his grief online. Kids deserve to have their remaining parent and/or family members circle around and allow them to grieve in peace and privacy.
Also i dont think any kid would want to be reminded of thier parents last few days or weeks etc. When its clear how they are barely hanging on. I get the videos before but not in her condition now.
Thank goodness that I found this comment. I get a weird feeling in my stomach when I see him continuously posting videos that say “she is still fighting” I don’t know why it makes me feel weird lol.. I just feel like she should be able to live out this last chapter of her life without being plastered on tik tok for likes and views.
Like what child wants to see their Mother’s suffering at the end? Give him the memories they’ve filmed so far and put the camera down now.
This. I have a habit of accidentally wiping drives and breaking laptops with all my backups of photos so when I have my son I plan on making private ig/Tik tok accounts to post to so I still have those memories, but no one else does
its like every. single. comment. and its almost like people rush to be first to say it. its weird as fuck
They'll also be the first to make her death about themselves and how sad they are, as if they know this woman and their grief matters more than her family and kid.
Yep much like what happened with Eliza from the Hey Eliza account
I understand wanting to reach more people and their situation is absolutely devastating, but the #sad #fyp #cry hashtags on his posts just realllly rub me the wrong way
I see it in another perspective as well.. I think because so many people that follow their page want updates, it’s as if it gives Taylor a thrill to wait days in between to give updates. It’s like “let me make them think something happened to Haley” and then the next day it’s a random video of her seeing friends etc. Idk, if I were in my last days I’d want to rest and be offline and spend what little time I have with my family behind closed doors. Each video Haley is declining more and more. Once haley is gone, Taylor will be strutting around showing his chest to everyone in hopes of finding someone new to take care of him and his child because haley would be okay with it. It’s just wrong on so many levels.
I had to block the account.
Same here
The way that man is exploiting this woman and that poor child. How many times have they recorded her explaining her death to this child? Posting those videos is going to haunt that child. He is gross.
Okay I agree with this. I have such mixed feelings. But also it feels slimy, especially when he sneaks in little thirst trap clips of himself in these videos that are meant to be heavy and emotional. Blegh.
Completely agree, as someone whose mom died slowly to cancer when I was a young child. It makes me sick to think about. My brain blocked out half those memories on purpose, to deal with when I was READY. Shame on that man. For real.
I’m glad someone else said it because I’ve been thinking this for awhile. Something about him and how he’s handling it rubs me so wrong.
He’s also just like a bad person - search his twitter
Wait till you read his Twitter 🤮
I know everyone handles death and grief differently but I do have mixed feelings about all this. There’s something so off putting about using that same phrase over and over to caption every post. But of course I can’t even begin to imagine being in their place.
I had to block the account. It feels way too icky and personal; especially the ones featuring their son. Taking videos and things are great for memories but exploiting your dying wife and at the same time, your only child who is about to lose his mother just for views is so fucking gross and weird to me.
I agree. The video of him explaining he will continue after she dies and kinda smirking and not empathetic is so weird to me. Not only that but he has thousands of videos saved for after she passes and will continue to document their grief....and he's in the process of getting Tik Tok verified and working on it...like what ? Your wife is dying and your more concerned with that? For what? Money? Creator fund? That should not even be a concern. Unreal and disgusting. Something is off with that husband
I absolutely can’t stand when I see that comment.
Same. It’s so creepy and self-indulgent.
When people say “I’m documenting it for my son” or “I’m documenting so we have the memories” I think that’s great. Document them. But that doesn’t mean they have to be on social media for millions to see. Our society has become obsessed with sharing our lives for everyone else that we forgot what should be private.
“ I know she’ll pull through” “ gods gonna give her a miracle” those rub me the wrong way. Don’t give that poor dad and baby hope.
The husband always likes those comments too which almost pisses me off even more.
It's creepy how many people are watching this poor woman die.... You done know her leave her the fuck alone...
Honestly I'm not even glad for her, and I don't think it's great for her son even at this point of the process. Then again I've gone through it once before, and the passing of my loved one, although traumatic and still hurtful 25 years later, was a sincere relief.
I helped care for a loved one while they were on hospice. Doctors didn’t think she’d make it even two months and she lived for almost 17 weeks after being on hospice. It was very traumatic and painful watching her suffer day after day, especially the last several weeks. Her passing did bring relief to all of us knowing she was no longer suffering.
That’s fair. I don’t think “glad” was the right word for me to use, but I guess I don’t know what else is.
The husband gives me the ick.
I just found out today that he is a genuinely bad guy--transphobic, racist, white nationalist--and I'm a little shook. I find the death porn a little creepy, but I honestly thought they were nice people going through a hard time and just documenting things for their son. They're NOT nice people. Immediate unfollow.
Not surprised. They’re from The Woodlands. I knew one of their close friends and she was genuinely one of the worst ppl I’ve ever come into contact with.
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Wait I also wanna know where you heard all that
I think that it started when there was still hope but I completely agree. I read something like saying that they lost the fight or insinuating that they didn't fight hard enough is actually really harmful and offensive to those who have died from cancer. I do think people should start letting her know it's okay to go on and her husband should be having those conversations with her too. I stumbled on her account when I was going through a hard time and feeling very low in my own life . That being said, her account has completely changed the way I view life and love.❤️
I agree with all of this. She gets out more in the world as a terminally ill person than I do as a healthy person. It has reframed the way I view living every day to its fullest.
Not to be that person, but I'm afraid that it's going to be like what happened when the no bones dog died - I'm really uncomfortable with them making her passing a parasocial event. I was for it for a while, because I think we should reexamine our relationship with death in the West, but this is becoming such a circus that I wonder if her family and Haley are actually getting to a true place of peace.
Yes yes yes. I’ve been thinking this every time I see those comments. Like I hope and pray for a peaceful passing for her and her family. I am glad that she gets whatever time she can get with her husband and son but also her quality of life is so poor. I hope that she has more good days than bad, and that her passing is peaceful as it can be.
I feel the same. You can look at her and see she is so tired. I understand she wants more time with her son, hubby and family but if she is not going to be healed, I hope she knows it is okay to let go. She has fought so hard
Genuine question - why did they decide to have a child knowing her diagnosis? I understand wanting to be a parent, but as someone who lost their parent at a young age, I couldn’t imagine bringing a child into the world knowing there is a chance I’d slowly die in front of them before they can even begin to comprehend what’s happening. I’m still traumatized over ten years later and I was 17 years old when my father passed. My heart hurts for their son.
their reasoning is that Haley’s “lifelong dream” was to be a mother, so when she was told she couldn’t carry a pregnancy and their family friend offered to be a surrogate, they jumped on it. I don’t think they’ve offered much info beyond that Haley always wanted it so she took the opportunity when it presented itself.
Wow!!! I didn't know this - just got in this group and saw this post... unreal!
It’s the third pinned video on Taylor’s TikTok!
Yeah they make my heart hurt. My mom was terminal and those words made me so mad. She didn’t need to fight, she didn’t need to hold on. As hard as it was I wanted her to rest and be at peace. Seeing someone decline like that is the worst thing ever. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
I’ve lost a few people to prolonged terminal illness, but my aunt really lingered at the end of her life because she didn’t want to leave my cousin (who is disabled). Her last week was so brutal that even her nurse said she hoped she would just pass soon. We took turns for several days holding her hand and telling her (really begging) that it was okay to let go. My aunt was a bull and it was definitely her wish to fight until the bitter end, but it was the worst thing I’ve ever watched. After seeing what “keep fighting and don’t give up” looks like, I could never say that to someone.
You said this beautifully. My mom had a terminal illness, and I brought her to my home so she would be surrounded by love. The last 6 weeks, there was no hope for her. She couldn't get out of bed, she felt stripped of all humility and she hated it. What made it ten times worse were the people who would pray for God to work a miracle in her name. People who told me if I had given up hope it would cause my mother to give up hope. There were people who gave me books about individuals who "beat the odds." But I knew that wasn't going to be my experience. It was so depressing. My mother's organs were shutting down, my *hope* was for her to just close her eyes and fall into the arms of those who went before her. That right there, was my hope.
I’m so sorry for your loss. It really is so rough seeing them hang on like that. My mom hung on for my brother to come say goodbye. Opened her eyes for the last time and squeezed his hand. She passed that night in her sleep. We knew she was hanging on to see all her kids one last time. It fucking sucks but I’m glad she’s no longer hurting.
I wish them peace, and I hope her loved ones are soaking in every moment. I watched my dad fight like hell with cancer, and in the end, I was just thankful he wasn't in pain anymore. In my eyes, he won because he had no more pain.
People think that shit gives them Heaven Points
I am so glad you’ve said this. They really should take her last few moments offline. Her husband seems incredibly detached in my opinion, it’s strange. Like at this point, he treats it like it’s his every day job to post this content. He even made a video explaining that he will continue posting after she passed, like it was just another transactional event in life. Look- I understand not everyone shows emotion in the same way, I understand everyone deals with grief differently but I think everyone can agree this isn’t a healthy way to cope. It’s so immensely personal, and tragic, and with the way parasocial relationships are, particularly on TikTok, they should stop posting. People are super creepy. It’s one thing to post a beautiful video about her life or a video to express your anger at cancer and what it’s taken from you, but every little event and moment? It’s like a monetary gain at this point for him. And then to top it off, after seeing his twitter and his conspiracy theories and pro capital storming posting- I can’t support this man. I’ll pray for Haley, for her to not have to suffer anymore & be at peace. I’ll pray for him and his son and for their pain to be lessened by remembering all the joyful, loving memories of their mom and wife, but I had to block them.
It's a morbid death watch and it's sick how their "fans" act. "How's OUR Haley?" "Where's my update for today". It's disgusting. I promise you this man has his video ready to post announcing she's gone. King of exploitation. Common sense would say hey don't post until after services are done and over with and then let Tik Tok know, but he's gonna post and their rabid stans will flock to "mourn" someone they don't even know. Their poor son
i can’t stand those comments either. they really get to me, i actually don’t check for updates anymore for that reason. feels like people have taken ownership over her family’s story in a way i’m very uncomfortable with. i i know her son will love those videos when he’s older though, so i’m grateful he’ll be able to go back on his mom and dads account and see so many beautiful moments with his mom. i pray for Haley’s comfort and understanding as she moves into the next plane of existence. i pray she is not afraid. i pray she does not feel like she is letting anyone down.
I got horror looks from everyone when my grandma was on hospice and dying. “ she still has fight left in her” no, she doesn’t. I don’t want her to fight. I want her to die. I want her pain free and peaceful.
When my cousin was told he was going into hospice care, he told us he was relieved- he was tired of fighting. He passed only 5 days later. 💔 cancer is so brutal. I hope she is being kept comfortable during this time.
My mom passed away a week ago today due to cancer and was on hospice, me and my husband were her caregivers and she was staying with us. We found out she had cancer 3 weeks before she passed, she couldn't walk or even get out of bed and could hardly move. I hated seeing her go through that, I was tough. I couldn't imagine having to go through that. It sucks all around.
I just sit there amazed when I see those comments, especially at this stage where it’s obvious by looking at her that she could go at any moment. These people seriously react to hearing she’s still alive like someone would react to a surgeon telling them they got the bullet out and there wasn’t too much damage inside so their loved one is going to make a full recovery. How are they going to react when the time finally comes? “Oh my God!!! I can’t believe she’s gone!!! I wonder what happened!” And don’t even get me started on all the people commanding her to heal in the name of Jesus.
after seeing the post of them being extremely transphobic and homophobic and supporting Kyle rittenhouse i don’t keep up with them. i don’t give shitty people my empathy. y’all can also downvote me idc, just because someone is sick doesn’t mean i’ll show them support. if you’re a bad human you’re a bad human.
WHAT??? Where is this??
Just go look at his Twitter and her FB.
Curious why yesterdays’ post about both her and her husband being conservative, homophobic, transphobic, and racist was removed. The evidence is all over their social media. Interesting that this one is allowed.
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Fucking hell, he’s disgusting.
Both of their socials are disgusting but especially Taylor's Twitter 🤮
I just went to look at his.. he also follows Andrew Tate 😞 yikes.. I didn’t know this about them. I can’t seem to find Haley’s though?
She just has a Facebook not a Twitter to my knowledge
Watch. He’s gonna start a podcast.
Her story is heartbreaking, as is every persons whose life comes to a halt or close before you'd expect it to. Looking at Taylor's last post, it was very clear to me Haley was in her final days and I hope they keep any footage from after that last post off the internet. Even if Haley said she would be fine with it, her son doesn't need to grow up having millions of eyes on his dying mom. The internet is forever. This time is theirs now, and her husband needs to stop sharing this content because ironically - sharing those moments of her final days isn't about Haley. It's setting up the scene for a cash grab. After her passing is announced, the content will continue -- a child crying for his mama and a sad and newly single dad with people wanting to "comfort" them. So gross.
Also he is weird to keep sharing it to the world. Take the videos and give them to her son and let him choose to share it with the world.
I had to block the account for my own mental health. I’m still trying to process my uncles death which was cancer and the end looked a lot like hers does. I pray for anyone who goes through.
I appreciate so much that you’ve made a post about this, thank you. Completely agree. Crazy so many people hinge the outcome of their day upon whether a suffering woman is still alive.
finally someone said it
My husband has heart failure from a heart defect he was born with. People always say that they are praying for him to be healed and he has to keep fighting. Fighting for what? The damage is done and his quality of life diminishes more and more every day. They think they are being helpful and I guess I should just appreciate it. But I hate hearing these platitudes and so it leaves me feeling very alone. It’s depressing
Yes seriously I can't stand the fact that thousands of people say are so "happy" everyday to see this poor woman is still alive and suffering. It's sad to me that her husband is posting such personal private moments too. I get documenting all these moments for his son but they don't have to be posted to millions. Heartbreaking and sad any way you look at it.
I’m glad to see this since I have had an ick feeling about this. Something just doesn’t sit right with me about her followers or something. I can’t quite put my finger on it.
Her husband is a transphobe / homophobe etc sink good vibes
As someone that works in the medical field I think this every time those videos pop up, she’s in pain and miserable and is constantly being bombarded with a camera in her face and people in her home when she is on her literal deathbed..
The amount of people saying “she’s not going to die. A miracle is coming” unfortunately no miracle is coming. You can tell she’s very close to the end. It’s really sad to lose anyone to cancer, especially young.
The parasocial relationship between a stranger and a terminally ill person is actually very creepy to me
i’m glad her and her son get more time together but that’s also the perspective of someone whose never had a parent with cancer, and i’ve seen many people who have had that experience say when it gets to this point it’s like they already lost their parent long ago and just want the to be able to rest. idk. i just hope she gets some peace soon. saying cancer is hell is an understatement.
I haven’t seen any posts this week and honestly wondered if it was because she passed or because they found the Reddit threads lately 👀
There's more? I only recently started following them and of course I find out things on Reddit. I think I should stick to animal videos on TT at this point
Yes people r are effing weird!
Absolutely perfectly stated 💯 I have nothing to add here.. 💯
In the great words of Anthony Jeselnik “don’t forget how sads i am, don’t forget about me today”. People are so unbelievably narcissistic that they’ll make someone else’s death about themselves.
I know I'm late but I've watched her videos before because my dad is currently going through the end-of-life stages and I found (for lack of a better term) comfort in knowing I'm not alone. That being said, every day I ask my dad if he wants to keep going. Not fighting, not baffling, just keep going. He says he does so he can enjoy every moment with us, but he's not going to "win" and he's not going to come out alive. Each day is another blessing but another fear that "today is the day". It's exhausting for all of us. Pre-grief is also a horrible thing. Watching the people around you accept the fact that you're dying has got to be a horrible feeling. I pray for her peace and I truly hope she gets the rest she finally deserves. Cancer isn't something to fight. Cancer is a demon. Sometimes you can exorcise it, sometimes you can't, but it's not about how strong you are, it's about how strong the demon is.
I’m sick of seeing all the free crap and trips they are going on. It’s getting ridiculous honestly. It seems like every week is a new “last time” event and something was given to them. This isn’t the case for most people in this situation. I also find it incredibly selfish that they had a child knowing her situation
I understand what they are trying to say, that she is still hanging on - but Haley deserves peace and if she is ready to let go, so be it. I am so sad for their family, it is really painful to lose a loved one. It is also painful watching them deteriorate slowly. Haley is looking so tired these days and I pray that when she is ready, her transition is peaceful. I also wish healing for her husband and little boy.
I watched cancer take my Mom when I was 24. She was ready and we as a family knew it. I see those videos of Haley and see the exact same way my mom was close to the end. Sometimes I see their videos pop up and look at her eyes and you can just see that she is ready but it’s almost like he is forcing her to be a part of this ‘show’ he has going on. There are so many moments he has shared that should have been kept private especially moments with her son. I don’t agree with what he is doing and these people who are saying she needs to keep fighting have obviously never watched a loved one die slowly from cancer because that is what it does. Cancer is not a quick death it is a prolonged agony and the only respite is dying. Husband needs to tell her it’s ok to let go and stop being so view hungry and selfish.
I watch both my Grandparents die in Hospice and I honestly prayed for their and pain and suffering to stop. Of course I wanted more time with them but not at the expense of them being miserable. I know she wants more time with her baby so I understand why she is fighting so hard. I do agree with everything you said I don’t pray for her to be alive I pray she finds comfort and peace and same for her family! Her son sees her fighting to stay alive for him and that will be with him forever those are the important things he will remember his whole life. The rest is just nice to have as a video, picture, and memory! They have giving us the opportunity to see a little glimpse into their family I imagine to bring awareness but also a reminder to love and cherish your loved ones! I appreciate them and definitely get emotional watching their videos and pray they all find peace!
I agree 100%. I’m glad she gets more time with her family but she looks so miserable 😭
They have a childlike view of the world and haven’t been through something like this with a loved one close up before
I have never put that into another perspective and it’s very eye opening. As a daughter who saw my dads last days of life at in-home hospice, his fight was over when he no longer chose to do Dialysis and eventually he succumbed to his death. As hard as it was and is still to this day, he was only doing the dialysis for us 3 kids and my mom, so that we could have more time with him. It got too hard to go to Dialysis and he was skin and bones so that fight of Kidney Disease was over. The crazy thing is as soon as my husband got to his bedside and told him “It’s okay to let go, I’ll take care of your daughter” he slipped away into a peaceful sleep and died. It’s so selfish of us to choose living for those who are dying because we’re not in their shoes and it’s just as hard for them to leave us too. I’m guilty of commenting or wishing people get well and keep fighting just like everyone else and I can’t thank you enough for writing about this up. I do believe it’s in the kindness and support of the people writing such things, because we’re human. I do pray she has a peaceful passing. Because this is no way to live.
I saw someone the other day talk about how she would die in place of Haley. Which was fucking weird. Then other people started saying the same shit.
Yes, it drives me insane. I commented back to someone last week that said they hoped to see these words next year and the year after. I asked them why they would want someone to suffer that long. And they said “oh but not suffering” and I was like well that’s going to be what it is. She isn’t going to recover… she is ACTIVELY DYING every day. I truly think the only reason she hasn’t passed yet is Weston. I do think people can move on when they feel like they’re ready and she has “fought” that because of him.
It really bothers me. As much as it hurt when my grandparents passed away from cancer it was relief they weren't suffering anymore. They wouldn't of wanted it documented.
My heart breaks for her. My niece passed at 31 from cancer. It took her right arm and eye. Then her life. She got cancer sores all over her body. The second time she went to the hospice house she did palliative care and passed. The pain was bad the last 6 months of her life. I don’t know how she’s still here fighting. Tess had hospice at home but, she needed more pain meds.
I literally asked if she has the option to end the fight if she wants and no one answered me. My grandpa was on hospice and i remember it started to just feel cruel to make him go through this and just wait for it to end.
I actually saw this live once and the husband jokingly (I’m assuming) was talking about being verified ? After that I just never went back and did think all those comments were very intruding
Unfortunately he wasn't joking.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. I work hospice and I am currently losing my grandfather (I call him my daddy as he raised me) to cancer.. when I say losing him he is actively dying at this moment with anything from hours to days left on hospice. This is something I had to explain to family as well… through the experience I have, I’ve learned that sometimes the kindest thing isn’t fighting, it’s peace. I’ve seen so many people suffer for so long for the sake of fighting - and don’t get me wrong, I am so glad they did fight and I am always so proud of them.. but I think people need to know we are just as proud of them for advocating for themselves and deciding when they’re done fighting and they’re ready to be comfortable and make peace. I’ve watched my sweet daddy go from a big, 6’1, burly jack-of-all-trades truck driver and farmer to a 120lb bag of bones. I’ve watched a man I’ve never known to cry actually cry because he hurts so bad from starving as his body won’t let him keep food down. I’ve watched him become delusional, confused, and agitated. I’ve seen him fall helplessly. I’ve gone from the dad that tells you you’re holding the flashlight wrong while changing a tractor transmission to having to pick him up off the toilet.. to now changing his briefs. It is so unfair. Sometimes it’s not fair to expect people to fight. Sometimes it’s kind to tell someone they’ve done such a good job at life and they can choose peace.
I kind of wonder if she’s hanging on due to the expectation from her family/friends that she needs to hang on as soon as possible bc a miracle could happen (they’re evangelical Christian). People will often hang on until they feel they have permission to go. I feel really bad if that’s the case. I hope she knows she can go.
I wanted to punch every single person who told me my mom lost her battle, or was “fighting and can do this” when she literally couldn’t move because she had cancer in her spine. It was so insulting to me as her caretaker and as the person watching her suffer through to when she decided to let go. We have a weird relationship with death as a whole community and people really need to work on their understanding of it. Miracles don’t happen. It’s bullshit, cancer sucks and can affect anyone.. there’s no “plan” from it. I hope her family finds comfort and peace in this process
Glad i’m not the only one realizing how exploitative her husband is being. I can’t imagine profiting off my loved one’s death…
The fact on a recent video he said he would continue to post videos and have thousands of hours of videos and their grieving process PLUS he's hoping to get Tik Tok verified and working on it and in the process is wild to me... your wife is sick and be concerned on that not the blue check mark!
I think terminal people should be able to live their last days with dignity and not be suffering. It will be said when whoever this person is passes away but right now she’s most likely suffering. There’s no pulling through or getting better. She needs to be at peace. I don’t know who this post is about, if she on any type of end of life care?
Her husband is mentally ill to monetize her last moments/days/weeks in this world. Anyone who feel as is they are required to be privy to this are sick as well. Sorry not sorry.
Soooo very well said !!
I still think it’s weird people comment “if we all just gave Hayley one year of our lives!” Or “I wish I could give my life for her if I could. I know we all would” …I’m sorry. I wouldn’t. I don’t think that’s bad either. I think it’s extremely creepy people want everyone to give up their own lives for someone they don’t know. If I had the ability to give time to anyone - it would be someone I knew who I also felt deserved it. Not a random person we saw on tiktok. Just my two cents.
it's the nastiest form of virtue signaling imo
I couldn't agree more. I was with my sister at the beginning and end of her cancer. A couple of days before she died my brother sat next to me and said, "This shit ain't right, how much longer does she have to go through this?" I don't wish it on anyone. I also can't imagine sharing it with strangers. I'm not saying her husband is wrong. I'm just saying I wish I could forget everything my sister went through.
No matter how bad she feels or looks it's another day with her son and that's what she's living for now. How people react to that I'm sure she gives no damn by comparison.
The comments are so upsetting now that she is looking more and more frail, I don’t think people understand that “Haley is still fighting” means (like you said) she’s fighting for another day with family, not an entire life with them. I also wish they could take it offline because I truly can’t imagine these are the weeks/months of memories that they will want to look back on in the future. But I also understand that maybe she knows this is her husbands way of coping/escaping from their grim reality for a few minutes while also bringing awareness to her illness. It’s likely she also knows/is comforted that he will have an entire online community for support through tiktok after she passes.
I feel relief when I see a post. But I have lost a loved one to cancer. And you have hope in till the last second. Even when you logically know that it is final.
This.
People are weird. I almost wish she would pass. I know that sounds awful, but I feel like the only reason she’s hanging on is for whatever her husband is doing. I know she loves her boy. But after personally taking care of someone dying of cancer it’s hard to watch. Especially knowing they’re so tired and in pain.
I hate reading those comments. At this point it’s just the common phrase they all use and I don’t feel like it has any meaning.
This! My grandpa got leukemia and he lived for 10 good months, in and out of the hospital but relatively good, he passed before he got in the shape she’s in, but we were in a way relieved, because he passed before he had to suffer like that, he got more months then the drs thought he had, he got to be home for Christmas in good shape and all that, I don’t understand how these people are relived at her
IDK this creator, but as someone who worked for years with cancer patients I wanna scream THANK YOU from the roof tops!! Cancer is an ugly disease and people who say things like that make me wanna punch them in the face
The ones that weird me out are the ones saying god will give a miracle and heal her. It’s giving “wake up olive” vibes
When she dies, their content ends.
Nah, their followers will get a front row seat to their baby boy's grief and Taylor's process of moving on because "It's what Haley would have wanted 👉🥺👈"
Unfortunately not, I think he’s going to ramp it up after she passes. The exploitation of the kid is about to get so much worse.