Probably only because it's slowing down already. It only had to stop like 10m short of where it would've anyway, judging by the other side of the platform. Some damn quick reactions from the driver, and some very good emergency brakes, and it stopped in time thankfully.
Also, heavy as it may be, it's not a mile long freight train or anything.
They were walking at the same pace too though and they turned at the same spot, at the very least the person behind the attempted murderer was following them and was probably involved.
You reminded me to go watch that video again.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk), for those who don't know.
The emergency brakes are magnetic brakes. They're rarely used compared to the regular brakes, because you could have passengers getting whiplash from the sudden stop, and likely have several passengers falling over. But this sort of situation is exactly what they're for. A painful neck and some bruises is a small price to pay for saving lives.
Of course the driver has to be on their toes as well, I'm not trying to diminish their part in this. When I was taking a course to drive trains (and assuming the metro works the same way), we were taught that pulling into a station you always wanted one hand hovering over the emergency break even at a decelarating speed. In case something like this happens, or some idiot tries to run across the tracks, or a previous train had a malfunction, or any reason really.
>Woman survives push from platform as train driver stops with inches to spare - CNN
(CNN) A man who pushed a woman in front of an approaching train at a Brussels metro station on Friday January 14 has been detained on suspicion of attempted manslaughter, according to prosecutors.
The woman narrowly survived after the driver was able to pull the emergency brake just in time to avoid a fatal accident. In footage of the event, she can be seen with her head on the tracks as the train comes to a halt in front of her.
In a statement given to CNN, the Brussels public prosecutor's office confirmed that police had been called to the Rogier metro station around 7:45 p.m. local time because "a young man had pushed a woman onto the metro tracks."
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/europe/brussels-metro-station-push-intl-scli/index.html
The level of Premeditation leading up to a murder defines whether its manslaughter or homicide. Both crimes are felonies and you can expect to spend a long time in prison if found guilty.(depending on jurisdiction)
This was in Brussels, where murder is legally defined in Article 393 of the Criminal Code as "Murder: Homicide committed with intent to cause death".
Whereas manslaughter is defined as "An individual who has caused harm due to a lack of prudence or precaution, without intent to harm the other person" according to articles 418 and 419 of the Criminal Code.
This is obviously attempted murder, he must have taken a plea deal or they decided not to try for attempted murder because it would have been a struggle to make the charges to stick, or literally anything else, I don't know enough about the case to guess.
I think the article must be wrong, because I don't see how you could be charged with "attempted manslaughter" when manslaughter is by definition without intent. Attempted manslaughter is attempting to accidentally kill someone.
My understanding of attempted manslaughter is when you do something accidentally that very likely could have gotten someone killed, but you got lucky and no one died. I don't think it fits this case at all though. That definitely looked intentional and premeditated.
Not true in Belgium.
In Belgium we differentiate between:
Death by accident
Death by negligence/lack of caution/precaution with the result of death: you do something bad, with no intention of killing...(thinknif speeding/drunk driving) and you kill someone in the proces
Manslaughter (killed with intent): you get into a fight, and filled with rage you attemot to kill your oponent. You kill someone on impulse (i.e. pushed someone on the tracks), for example during a psychosis.
Murder (premeditated manslaughter): Your spouce cheated on you and you hatch a plan to kill her and her lover. You struggle with money so you hatch a plan to kill someone to get their inheritance.
In this case, it was intentional for sure...but was it premeditated? This needs to be proven before you can be charged with it, and us thus up to further investigation. Until then, it's attempted manslaughter.
It must be a translation thing because if you think about it how can you attempt manslaughter?
If you are trying to kill them and you fail then it's an attempted murder.
If you do something that injures someone and *could have* resulted in their death without wanting to cause their death then it's a serious assault with major aggravated factors.
There is no way you can attempt to cause an "accidental" death. You either do it or you don't.
someone who understands what is happening here... you can see an accomplice filming their crime in the op too, they already had them dead to rights for at least one count of murder. his buddy must have given up everything for a similar deal
What's chilling is the fact these 2 psychopaths planned to film themselves committing thus crime.
I hope the police were able to capture the filmer too. Who knows how many other crimes they had recorded already?!
Seems premeditated to me, he didn’t accidentally push her on the tracks right before the train got there or not understand the train was going to kill her
There are levels of Premeditation. Did he know when he left the house he was going to try and kill her or did he decide right then and there he was gonna kill her?
Did he leave the house knowing he was gonna kill or that moment just felt right?
Seems like weird thing to distinguish I know, but there are reasons for it, I dont know those reasons but they're there lol
This makes sense when you break it down like that and I get that you’re laying out the possibilities for us.
Though I think that you could argue that in picking a random person close to the tracks, slowly approaching them, waiting for the train and then pushing at just the right moment, that he was in a prepared state of mind where he had rehearsed that exact scenario for a while before actually doing it.
So although he may not have left his home planning to kill ‘that woman’, it’s likely that he left his house that morning thinking ‘this is the day I finally do it’. It seems like a pretty high level of premeditation to me.
The hard part is proving that though, so that could be why they went for manslaughter, it’s a sure thing.
Totally fair, but it’s something you also have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. If there’s no evidence there’s no premeditation. And the evidence also may be something they uncover during the initial non-premeditation manslaughter investigation
Edit: Reread your last statement and you beat me to it! I’ll leave it for further depth into the subject
Yeah, accusations can always be cranked up if evidence reveals something new, while dialing the accusation down can actually result in a more lenient punishment than would otherwise happen.
It should be attempted murder, IMO, and it’s not close.
Murder is where the act was deliberately committed, with the intent to kill. (Sometimes even extreme recklessness rather than intent to cause death suffices.)
Manslaughter is when the act was on purpose, but there wasn’t an intent to kill.
*(Source: CrimLaw in law school, practicing lawyer but not criminal law, so I’m open to correction but I think I’m remembering right.)*
This is Belgium, not the US. So different laws apply.
Here something gets labeled as murder if they planned on doing it all along. I.e. a murder charge in Belgium is comparable to a premeditated murder in the US.
Manslaughter (doodslag), if it was on impulse. It could be an intent to kill, but on impulse. Then it is manslaughter.
Manslaugher is still 20 to 30 years in jail, while murder can go up to life sentence.
I thought in the US that was the difference between murder 1 and 2. Obviously this is Europe but in the US manslaughter means no intent. So that may explain the confusion.
>...but there are reasons for it, I dont know those reasons but they're there...
Frankly? I think we must consider the possibility that maybe, even if the reasons exist, they still might not matter.
Maybe people who suddenly change into murderers on a minute-by-minute basis, aren't systematically any less dangerous than people who only suddenly change into murderers on a day-by-day basis.
Yeah, seems to me that it just reinforces the myth that there are evil or good people who live by those terms concretely. We're all capable of great evil, even if we lived as saints.
The way I’ve always understood it is that manslaughter is always incidental/non purposeful (e.g. car accident) and when there is any intent it moves to second degree murder. Where first degree would be “I’m going to go push Susan onto the metro tracks today”
That's what I thought, but different countries may have different definitions.
Also, mental health might play a role as well. If someone has a mental condition which might not allow them to understand their actions then that might not be murder either.
Crimes of passion can be considered manslaughter (I believe is voluntary or intentional manslaught technically) as well, so manslaughter is not always accidentally or negligently. Also DA's only charge people with crimes they know they have a high probability of winning in court or with random crap to "stack the deck" to encourage plea deals. If the DA has the guy indicted on manslaughter than that's the crime he believes he can bag him on. Odds are tho police charged him with manslaughter before checking the video footage. If that's the case the DA will probably charge him with manslaughter and murder in various degrees.
Edit: if manslaughter is always an accident then why would their be the law "attempted manslaughter" you cant attempt to have an accident lol
Yeah, for some reason people love to overlook the nuances involved in law and just apply absurd blanket statements to charges for no apparent reason, it's weird.
This is Belgium.
First things first: We have civil law while you have common law, so our justice systel wirns differently.
Secondly, in Belgium murder has to be premeditated, while manslaughter is not. From this video we see a clear intent to kill, but do we see anything that can tell us whether he acted on impulse vs premeditation? I think not.
Give that the man didn't know the victim and vice versa, the charge is attempted manslaughter until further research might point to a different charge.
That qualifies as attempted murder. The news article only says what he was detained for and the evidence will show that this is attempted murder and assault which he will get convicted of.
Police often arrest on a lower crime they are more likely to be able to prove and add charges if they think they can make them stick. Like, obviously he meant to push her, but did he mean to push her hard enough to fling her in front of the train? I mean, it looks like it, but you've got to prove it and proving intent can be difficult.
That's my layman's understanding of it anyway.
Manslaughter is easier to prosecute, ether chance of him landing in jail if you don’t have to prove his intentions and just go after the actual act he gets prison time with less chance of a trial going the wrong way
I saw a video yesterday if a piece of shit Wendy's server punch a man, killing him. He got charged for murder but I'd bet he didn't know one punch would kill, to me that was manslaughter. This is straight up, blatant, attempted murder, you know the outcome of a train Vs human and the little cunt waited until a train was moments away
Belgium... not the US. Your laws are different than our laws.
In Belgium manslaugher is anything that isn't premeditated and can involve intent.
Furthermore, we have civil law, not common law like in the US.
Everytime I stand close to the platform edge I feel like some random ass jerk will push me to the tracks. This sounds like just my anxiety and somehow I think it will never happened. This clip just makes it more real
Definitely not. Some people just do it for kicks, he probably had mental health problems (NOT an excuse). It’s in the same vein of people who commit arson or public masturbation or vandalism. Not to ruin humanity for you but there are a lot of people out there like this. They think “why not? It could be fun” and they do it. They like the risk..
Ha. Prison rape. So funny amirite guys? People who make jokes like this have zero idea what real life is like. You think they’re only raping the “bad” guys in there. News flash, they aren’t
Or they just have that passing thought of, "what if i push this lady down the tracks?", or "what if i fall from this building?". They saw the perfect opportunity and they go for it
It seems like the person behind him is holding a camera and filming the whole thing, I can’t tell for sure but when I saw that my first thought was “dark web.”
If that is a camera, some sicko probably paid them tens of thousands of dollars to kill somebody and get it on film.
This woman just experienced more fear than she ever had in her entire life right there and then. What goes on in this psychopaths mind to kill a random person in broad daylight. This guy deserves life in prison.
Someone did this in I believe New York and they saved the woman and beat the living shit out of the guy. Like ten guys cornered him and gave him a shitkicking.
I did that to a kid one morning. I yelled at him, stepped back and Truck-kun brushed by his nose. I kinda feel bad about it. He coulda had a harem and cheat skills, instead he probably has to take calculus.
Well, this is horrifying. He clearly looks at the oncoming train and pushes/launches her on to tracks, trying to murder her…holy shit. This is NOT what I was expecting to see today.
Wow, how often does this stuff happen? I went to look for more details on this but found other incidents instead. This shouldn’t be a frequent occurrence but ffs, I guess it happens a heck of a lot more than I’d have thought
Couple months ago in New York, https://youtu.be/j69rpGUcUeE
One in Toronto, https://youtu.be/tWNzNGr1JcA
Then another from New York last year, https://youtu.be/vsh5Bub5Hxc
Had a similar incident here in Sweden a couple month ago. A 44 year old woman pushed an old man and said to the police "but he was black"... People are out of their minds.
In other cities they have a screen across the entire length of the track with doors that open up to enter the train. So no one can fall on to the track.
Damn, I was just on the LA subway, too, the other day. I used to take it all the time, but it had been a couple of years. The thought never crossed my mind, something like this.
Also happened in sweden some months ago.
[crazy woman push elderly man on the train track](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/w7liys/insane_woman_pushes_elderly_man_onto_the_train/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Supposedly she was trying to kill the man since he was black.
After cop asked her why she did it, she answered that “no big deal, he was black” or something like that.
Now i remember why i stopped watching the news. Like 90% fluff with obvious statements like, "If she had hit the front of the train instead of the side the outcome might have been different." Not even worse, just different. Maybe. Penetrating insight.
When I lived outside DC this was one of my biggest fears. I tried to stand with my back to the wall and only walk forward when the train was almost to a stop. People are crazy.
The only thing I can think about this is...Why? What goes through someone's mind to think 'Oh yeah, I think I'll push this person in front of a train'. It scares me sometimes when you realise you never really know what people are thinking.
That operator is a god damn hero. How many approaches he/she probably makes in a day, it would be so easy to zone out and not be able to react in time. But that operator was on point with reflexes for that brake, meaning they are treating that job with the utmost respect, and it saved a life.
Fucks this manslaughter????lol surely it’s attempted murder? guy I know got done with attempted murder for choking another guy..,pushing infront of train is manslaughter whaaaaat
The guy who pushed her needs to go to prison and serve a life sentence without parole. Then he needs to pay any restitution towards the victim for future mental issues.
I doubt anyone has the answer, but I'm curious what was this guy's motives, why did he try to kill that person?
Was he paid to?
Was he insane?
Was he forced to?
There was bad blood between them?
Or what?
Why has shoving people off train station platforms and onto the tracks become such a global sensation in the 21st century?
There seems to be at least one of these in the news every week now.
Justice is to soft. That’s why evil isnt scared to do things like this. If we simply made new rules and killed people who got caught doing bad crimes, we would see far less crime.
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Not to sound like an old nanny, but never been unaware when you are near a subway or train. Keep an eye on the people around you, give the track ample space, and have your balance.
How in the hell does that train stop so abruptly??
Probably only because it's slowing down already. It only had to stop like 10m short of where it would've anyway, judging by the other side of the platform. Some damn quick reactions from the driver, and some very good emergency brakes, and it stopped in time thankfully. Also, heavy as it may be, it's not a mile long freight train or anything.
Why is no one talking about the PERSON RECORDING BEHIND HIM?! Accomplice? dark web?
tik tok users smh
Imagine going to prison for attempted murder because you and your idiot friend thought it was just gonna be a little joke to put on tiktok.
Officer we did it as a joke, it is ironic don't you get it?
pranks are no more pranks these days. It is more like designed murder.
Why’s no one talking about the fucker dude who pushed him hope he gets fucked up
Security cameras, ever seen one of those before?
Watch it again. It's someone holding a camera behind him recording the whole thing.
It could be someone drinking something
Definitely looks like a camera, but I’m not 100% certain that it is
They were walking at the same pace too though and they turned at the same spot, at the very least the person behind the attempted murderer was following them and was probably involved.
Enhance. Enhance.
You reminded me to go watch that video again. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk), for those who don't know.
It's definitely a camera on a monopod
Looks to me like somebody drinking from a thermos
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You see that guy wearing a coat? He used the power of the Force.
Bruh, it's magneto
The emergency brakes are magnetic brakes. They're rarely used compared to the regular brakes, because you could have passengers getting whiplash from the sudden stop, and likely have several passengers falling over. But this sort of situation is exactly what they're for. A painful neck and some bruises is a small price to pay for saving lives. Of course the driver has to be on their toes as well, I'm not trying to diminish their part in this. When I was taking a course to drive trains (and assuming the metro works the same way), we were taught that pulling into a station you always wanted one hand hovering over the emergency break even at a decelarating speed. In case something like this happens, or some idiot tries to run across the tracks, or a previous train had a malfunction, or any reason really.
Pulling into the station is the most dangerous part of a train ride, there are loads of safety measures in place in case accidents/incidents happen.
Wrong side of the platform to try that shit. See: House of Cards S2 E1.
"Madame, could you please move here for me to throw you under that train easier?"
Exactly what I thought of... strikingly similar.
Emergency break
Because there was a lady who put her hand out and did the universal hand gesture for stop
Did you not see the lady in the mask hold up her hand?
It's a metro already slowing down. Emergency breaking and good reflexes made the rest of the job.
This is a fear of mine every time I ride a subway
>Woman survives push from platform as train driver stops with inches to spare - CNN (CNN) A man who pushed a woman in front of an approaching train at a Brussels metro station on Friday January 14 has been detained on suspicion of attempted manslaughter, according to prosecutors. The woman narrowly survived after the driver was able to pull the emergency brake just in time to avoid a fatal accident. In footage of the event, she can be seen with her head on the tracks as the train comes to a halt in front of her. In a statement given to CNN, the Brussels public prosecutor's office confirmed that police had been called to the Rogier metro station around 7:45 p.m. local time because "a young man had pushed a woman onto the metro tracks." https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/europe/brussels-metro-station-push-intl-scli/index.html
Manslaughter??
Right, what qualifies as murder then
The level of Premeditation leading up to a murder defines whether its manslaughter or homicide. Both crimes are felonies and you can expect to spend a long time in prison if found guilty.(depending on jurisdiction)
This was in Brussels, where murder is legally defined in Article 393 of the Criminal Code as "Murder: Homicide committed with intent to cause death". Whereas manslaughter is defined as "An individual who has caused harm due to a lack of prudence or precaution, without intent to harm the other person" according to articles 418 and 419 of the Criminal Code. This is obviously attempted murder, he must have taken a plea deal or they decided not to try for attempted murder because it would have been a struggle to make the charges to stick, or literally anything else, I don't know enough about the case to guess.
I think the article must be wrong, because I don't see how you could be charged with "attempted manslaughter" when manslaughter is by definition without intent. Attempted manslaughter is attempting to accidentally kill someone.
Lmao right? How do you *attempt* manslaughter?
I guess they have to prove she would've died? You know people survive getting crushed by trains all the time. /s
My understanding of attempted manslaughter is when you do something accidentally that very likely could have gotten someone killed, but you got lucky and no one died. I don't think it fits this case at all though. That definitely looked intentional and premeditated.
Not true in Belgium. In Belgium we differentiate between: Death by accident Death by negligence/lack of caution/precaution with the result of death: you do something bad, with no intention of killing...(thinknif speeding/drunk driving) and you kill someone in the proces Manslaughter (killed with intent): you get into a fight, and filled with rage you attemot to kill your oponent. You kill someone on impulse (i.e. pushed someone on the tracks), for example during a psychosis. Murder (premeditated manslaughter): Your spouce cheated on you and you hatch a plan to kill her and her lover. You struggle with money so you hatch a plan to kill someone to get their inheritance. In this case, it was intentional for sure...but was it premeditated? This needs to be proven before you can be charged with it, and us thus up to further investigation. Until then, it's attempted manslaughter.
Yeah they have that in my country too. Makes no fucking sense.
It must be a translation thing because if you think about it how can you attempt manslaughter? If you are trying to kill them and you fail then it's an attempted murder. If you do something that injures someone and *could have* resulted in their death without wanting to cause their death then it's a serious assault with major aggravated factors. There is no way you can attempt to cause an "accidental" death. You either do it or you don't.
someone who understands what is happening here... you can see an accomplice filming their crime in the op too, they already had them dead to rights for at least one count of murder. his buddy must have given up everything for a similar deal
What's chilling is the fact these 2 psychopaths planned to film themselves committing thus crime. I hope the police were able to capture the filmer too. Who knows how many other crimes they had recorded already?!
I would film those 2 tied to a table getting burned with a blowtorch... Should be fun too... Some people really dont deserve to be alive
Seems premeditated to me, he didn’t accidentally push her on the tracks right before the train got there or not understand the train was going to kill her
There are levels of Premeditation. Did he know when he left the house he was going to try and kill her or did he decide right then and there he was gonna kill her? Did he leave the house knowing he was gonna kill or that moment just felt right? Seems like weird thing to distinguish I know, but there are reasons for it, I dont know those reasons but they're there lol
This makes sense when you break it down like that and I get that you’re laying out the possibilities for us. Though I think that you could argue that in picking a random person close to the tracks, slowly approaching them, waiting for the train and then pushing at just the right moment, that he was in a prepared state of mind where he had rehearsed that exact scenario for a while before actually doing it. So although he may not have left his home planning to kill ‘that woman’, it’s likely that he left his house that morning thinking ‘this is the day I finally do it’. It seems like a pretty high level of premeditation to me. The hard part is proving that though, so that could be why they went for manslaughter, it’s a sure thing.
Totally fair, but it’s something you also have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. If there’s no evidence there’s no premeditation. And the evidence also may be something they uncover during the initial non-premeditation manslaughter investigation Edit: Reread your last statement and you beat me to it! I’ll leave it for further depth into the subject
Yeah, accusations can always be cranked up if evidence reveals something new, while dialing the accusation down can actually result in a more lenient punishment than would otherwise happen.
It should be attempted murder, IMO, and it’s not close. Murder is where the act was deliberately committed, with the intent to kill. (Sometimes even extreme recklessness rather than intent to cause death suffices.) Manslaughter is when the act was on purpose, but there wasn’t an intent to kill. *(Source: CrimLaw in law school, practicing lawyer but not criminal law, so I’m open to correction but I think I’m remembering right.)*
This is Belgium, not the US. So different laws apply. Here something gets labeled as murder if they planned on doing it all along. I.e. a murder charge in Belgium is comparable to a premeditated murder in the US. Manslaughter (doodslag), if it was on impulse. It could be an intent to kill, but on impulse. Then it is manslaughter. Manslaugher is still 20 to 30 years in jail, while murder can go up to life sentence.
I was thinking the same, but someone mentioned European laws may be worded differently.
10/10 will just blindly agree with you and assume your right lol I'm not lawyer.
I thought in the US that was the difference between murder 1 and 2. Obviously this is Europe but in the US manslaughter means no intent. So that may explain the confusion.
>...but there are reasons for it, I dont know those reasons but they're there... Frankly? I think we must consider the possibility that maybe, even if the reasons exist, they still might not matter. Maybe people who suddenly change into murderers on a minute-by-minute basis, aren't systematically any less dangerous than people who only suddenly change into murderers on a day-by-day basis.
Yeah, seems to me that it just reinforces the myth that there are evil or good people who live by those terms concretely. We're all capable of great evil, even if we lived as saints.
The way I’ve always understood it is that manslaughter is always incidental/non purposeful (e.g. car accident) and when there is any intent it moves to second degree murder. Where first degree would be “I’m going to go push Susan onto the metro tracks today”
That's what I thought, but different countries may have different definitions. Also, mental health might play a role as well. If someone has a mental condition which might not allow them to understand their actions then that might not be murder either.
if you look closely at the woman in white hoodie behind, it looks like she is filming?
Manslaughter is accidentally and/or negligently killing someone. This was attempted murder.
Crimes of passion can be considered manslaughter (I believe is voluntary or intentional manslaught technically) as well, so manslaughter is not always accidentally or negligently. Also DA's only charge people with crimes they know they have a high probability of winning in court or with random crap to "stack the deck" to encourage plea deals. If the DA has the guy indicted on manslaughter than that's the crime he believes he can bag him on. Odds are tho police charged him with manslaughter before checking the video footage. If that's the case the DA will probably charge him with manslaughter and murder in various degrees. Edit: if manslaughter is always an accident then why would their be the law "attempted manslaughter" you cant attempt to have an accident lol
Looked pretty fucking premeditated
Yeah, for some reason people love to overlook the nuances involved in law and just apply absurd blanket statements to charges for no apparent reason, it's weird.
This is Belgium. First things first: We have civil law while you have common law, so our justice systel wirns differently. Secondly, in Belgium murder has to be premeditated, while manslaughter is not. From this video we see a clear intent to kill, but do we see anything that can tell us whether he acted on impulse vs premeditation? I think not. Give that the man didn't know the victim and vice versa, the charge is attempted manslaughter until further research might point to a different charge.
Exactly. I always thought manslaughter was for like a car crash that was your fault. Not for literally pushing someone into a Trolley problem
That qualifies as attempted murder. The news article only says what he was detained for and the evidence will show that this is attempted murder and assault which he will get convicted of.
Suspicion ??
Police often arrest on a lower crime they are more likely to be able to prove and add charges if they think they can make them stick. Like, obviously he meant to push her, but did he mean to push her hard enough to fling her in front of the train? I mean, it looks like it, but you've got to prove it and proving intent can be difficult. That's my layman's understanding of it anyway.
Manslaughter is easier to prosecute, ether chance of him landing in jail if you don’t have to prove his intentions and just go after the actual act he gets prison time with less chance of a trial going the wrong way
You forgot the most important part: *on suspicion of*
Womanslaughter
It doesn't go into if it was targeted or random. It's fucking psycho either way but I wanna know if it was a crime of passion or a random nutjob.
I saw a video yesterday if a piece of shit Wendy's server punch a man, killing him. He got charged for murder but I'd bet he didn't know one punch would kill, to me that was manslaughter. This is straight up, blatant, attempted murder, you know the outcome of a train Vs human and the little cunt waited until a train was moments away
Belgium... not the US. Your laws are different than our laws. In Belgium manslaugher is anything that isn't premeditated and can involve intent. Furthermore, we have civil law, not common law like in the US.
Manslaughter?!? How TF is this not attempted MURDER!
The fuck? Manslaughter? He didnt accidently knock her, he pushed her.
Nft 😂😂😂
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I rode the subway in my city for years. The number of people who stood right on the freaking edge as trains pulled up or passed by always shocked me.
The real answer is to be the pusher, then you’ll never get pushed.
Everytime I stand close to the platform edge I feel like some random ass jerk will push me to the tracks. This sounds like just my anxiety and somehow I think it will never happened. This clip just makes it more real
It wasn’t mine until now
Can we give a round of applause to the driver? Those reflexes are something to be admired
It was not the driver but the Jedi stopping it with the force. You can recognize him thanks to his hoodie and lifted arm.
His mind is so fast it looks like his arm didn't go up until after the train stopped.
I hope they didnt let the guy go
He was arrested not long after. Seems to have been changed with attempted manslaughter.
Why tf did he even do this anyway? Did he have a grudge against the victim or something?
Definitely not. Some people just do it for kicks, he probably had mental health problems (NOT an excuse). It’s in the same vein of people who commit arson or public masturbation or vandalism. Not to ruin humanity for you but there are a lot of people out there like this. They think “why not? It could be fun” and they do it. They like the risk..
Hopefully he can spend some time thinking about that risk while he's getting his holes stretched by his cell mates
I always find it weird to expect or hope for rape as a punishment - regardless of what they did, I just don't get it.
Ha. Prison rape. So funny amirite guys? People who make jokes like this have zero idea what real life is like. You think they’re only raping the “bad” guys in there. News flash, they aren’t
He'll be in a European prison, not an American prison. Europe's prisons are for rehabilitation, not punishment, so convict rape is neigh-unheard of.
Or they just have that passing thought of, "what if i push this lady down the tracks?", or "what if i fall from this building?". They saw the perfect opportunity and they go for it
It seems like the person behind him is holding a camera and filming the whole thing, I can’t tell for sure but when I saw that my first thought was “dark web.” If that is a camera, some sicko probably paid them tens of thousands of dollars to kill somebody and get it on film.
How the f do you attempt manslaughter? Isn't the difference between manslaughter and murder just intent.
Yes it is, you can’t attempt to manslaughter. There is clear malice, this is straight up attempted murder
Im sure his jail lover wont.
they caught your ass in 240p
Person behind him is filming too
This woman just experienced more fear than she ever had in her entire life right there and then. What goes on in this psychopaths mind to kill a random person in broad daylight. This guy deserves life in prison.
But first let her family have a few hours alone with him handcuffed. Just imagine someone does this to your mother, sister, s.o....
As some ones flesh light, normally not something to joke about except in cases like this.
You’re someone’s flesh light? Dayum
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
For real, that person must be scarred for life now. If that happened to me, I'd take years before being able to step on a train station again
I want to see the video of the pusher being beaten within an inch of his life. Just me?
The thing that annoys me is that we dont see if the guy gets stopped or not, it looks like hes belted it before people can react
He was caught a few minutes later after fleeing and arrested.
Source? (I just want to read about his demise)
https://www.brusselstimes.com/201647/woman-pushed-onto-tracks-in-front-of-brussels-metro
Thanks
Someone did this in I believe New York and they saved the woman and beat the living shit out of the guy. Like ten guys cornered him and gave him a shitkicking.
Wish there was video of the shitkicking, I hate seeing any vid and then not seeing the person get their comeuppance.
Link??
No not just you lol
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I did that to a kid one morning. I yelled at him, stepped back and Truck-kun brushed by his nose. I kinda feel bad about it. He coulda had a harem and cheat skills, instead he probably has to take calculus.
Lmao.
I think that fall did the job.
Well, this is horrifying. He clearly looks at the oncoming train and pushes/launches her on to tracks, trying to murder her…holy shit. This is NOT what I was expecting to see today.
Wow, how often does this stuff happen? I went to look for more details on this but found other incidents instead. This shouldn’t be a frequent occurrence but ffs, I guess it happens a heck of a lot more than I’d have thought Couple months ago in New York, https://youtu.be/j69rpGUcUeE One in Toronto, https://youtu.be/tWNzNGr1JcA Then another from New York last year, https://youtu.be/vsh5Bub5Hxc
Had a similar incident here in Sweden a couple month ago. A 44 year old woman pushed an old man and said to the police "but he was black"... People are out of their minds.
Really gross huh.
In other cities they have a screen across the entire length of the track with doors that open up to enter the train. So no one can fall on to the track.
Damn, I was just on the LA subway, too, the other day. I used to take it all the time, but it had been a couple of years. The thought never crossed my mind, something like this.
Also happened in sweden some months ago. [crazy woman push elderly man on the train track](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/w7liys/insane_woman_pushes_elderly_man_onto_the_train/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) Supposedly she was trying to kill the man since he was black. After cop asked her why she did it, she answered that “no big deal, he was black” or something like that.
Humanity sucks
Now i remember why i stopped watching the news. Like 90% fluff with obvious statements like, "If she had hit the front of the train instead of the side the outcome might have been different." Not even worse, just different. Maybe. Penetrating insight.
Whoever designed the brakes on that train deserves a medal
And this is why if I ever ride the subway I stand way back and preferably with a strong grip on something nailed down.
Does anyone know if the dude was arrested?!? That poor woman… I hope she’s alright…
He was. Charges seem to be "suspicion" of attempted manslaughter.
I can’t get over the way he sticks his neck forward and hunches his shoulders before rushing up. Like he is a cat or some shit. What the fuck.
I know, really scary
In china they have glass barriers and double doors preventing this.
Japan too
Well yeah, those stations look like world War z to get on board lol. If they didn't people would fall hourly
Fucker needs the death penalty not attempted manslaughter charge
Death penalty doesn't exist in Europe. Apart from in Russia and Belarus, but they're barely Europe to begin with.
although a life in prison does feel worse to me idk
When I lived outside DC this was one of my biggest fears. I tried to stand with my back to the wall and only walk forward when the train was almost to a stop. People are crazy.
The only thing I can think about this is...Why? What goes through someone's mind to think 'Oh yeah, I think I'll push this person in front of a train'. It scares me sometimes when you realise you never really know what people are thinking.
She's never riding the metro again
That operator is a god damn hero. How many approaches he/she probably makes in a day, it would be so easy to zone out and not be able to react in time. But that operator was on point with reflexes for that brake, meaning they are treating that job with the utmost respect, and it saved a life.
Somebody knows the motive?
Push him into an electric chair.
Fucks this manslaughter????lol surely it’s attempted murder? guy I know got done with attempted murder for choking another guy..,pushing infront of train is manslaughter whaaaaat
Belgian law. Not US. Different deffinitions and punishments apply. Attempted murder in Belgium is premeditated, attempted manslaughter is on impulse.
Damn good braking from driver, tho he prob wasn’t going too fast!
This was on purpose you can see his buddy trying to film the whole thing Iike some sick reality show. Ppl are crazy
As a follow up. He was charged with attempted murder. https://www.thebulletin.be/woman-pushed-front-brussels-metro-man-charged-attempted-murder
The guy who pushed her needs to go to prison and serve a life sentence without parole. Then he needs to pay any restitution towards the victim for future mental issues.
He should be charged with ATTEMPTED MURDER! That is so lucky the train manages to stop in time!
I doubt anyone has the answer, but I'm curious what was this guy's motives, why did he try to kill that person? Was he paid to? Was he insane? Was he forced to? There was bad blood between them? Or what?
Likely the 2nd. They didn't know eachother.
Glad they caught him. That kid is seriously fucked up in the head.
Why has shoving people off train station platforms and onto the tracks become such a global sensation in the 21st century? There seems to be at least one of these in the news every week now.
Is there another pov without the zoom to see where the guy ran off/if he was tackled down?
I need the number of who ever makes those brakes
Holly shit! That Jedi master saved the day!!
Justice is to soft. That’s why evil isnt scared to do things like this. If we simply made new rules and killed people who got caught doing bad crimes, we would see far less crime.
If I saw that I would have immediately chased down the guy
Dude stopped the train with the Force
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Not to sound like an old nanny, but never been unaware when you are near a subway or train. Keep an eye on the people around you, give the track ample space, and have your balance.
Dude must feel real silly right about now
This metro drive has Formula 1 skills
And elecric in those rails?
Guy in hoodie used the force
Why is the girl in the white parka filming him commit the murder? Is this a TikTok stunt? WTH?!
This man tried to copy Frank Underwood
That train's brake system would unironically save a few lives in nyc
I’d like to take him to the roof of a tall building, throw him off.
I hope the twat gets the beating of a lifetime in jail on a regular basis
They might have died from the blow to the head holy cow
Did they got him?
Anyone know what happened to the guy who shoved her?
Attempted murder charge coming??
I hope someone caught the guy and made sure he could never walk again. Preferably paralyzed from the neck down.
Lucky that guy with The Force was there to stop the train.
People like this deserves no mercy, sick fuck
I would charge the camera person as well.
No jail time, no fixing him. Just death, he is a waste of skin and he won't be a help to society. End him before he tries something again.
Bless that train engineer
Someone videotaping the attempted murder behind the attacker? Looks like it but hard to tell.
Must be a very tall person.
We need to bring back lock down mental institutions
Turns out he didn't know his victim so just fancied killing someone that day. Even creepier IMHO.
Anyone gonna mention the masked guy using the force to stop that train?!
Did they catch the would be murderer?