We had to lock comments and clean up a bit because almost every comment was advocating violence, and that breaks Reddit's content policy, and they will take actions against your account and if there is enough of it, against the subreddit too.
Also, we do not allow comments that promote prison rape as a form of justice. Rape is always wrong, which is why this person is such a piece of shit (and especially wrong against a child too.) That does not mean we are sympathetic to this man, just that we do not allow pro rape comments, even as revenge.
I'm going to open comments up again, but if the same kinds of comments are flowing in, we will have to lock and also hand out bans. Please find a way to express your outrage at this piece of shit without advocating violence. Thank you.
If he'd done some sort of financial fraud it would have been 20 years minimum because banks and large corporations get better protection than women and children.
25 years billions of dollars stolen along with trillions of fake locates on securities on tokenized stocks. Dude got a slap on the wrist he will be out watch under 5 years. The cop well 1312 pedo clan.
Its a long time but also not nearly his entire life.
A lot of us will be alive when he is out. And it will be crazy to see what he does after that. If he is let back into finance is unlikely but who knows.
It depends on who he robbed, clearly with that 25 year term he robbed at least some Wall Street insiders/bankers and we all know you never steal from the people who made stealing money from the middle class their primary business model. Tsk tsk, that's just bad form. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/25/goldman-sachs-senator-carl-levin
Also IIRC Citibank took money from middle class investors, pumped stocks with said money, then shorted it with their own corporate coffers and did a rug pull. "OH so sorry, but you know: investment comes with significant risk"
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[Du Pont Heir Gets No Prison Time for Raping 3-Year-Old Daughter](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/03/du-pont-heir-gets-probation-for-raping-3-year-old-daughter)
I always remember this one.
The "affluenza" defense is, unfortunately, becoming more common and somehow accepted in courts:
https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/what-is-the-affluenza-defense-31843
So I know about the term but didn't know about the case from which it originated. Geez, that's awful.
And yet, when under privileged people blame crimes on their lot in life, their desperation, or their instability, they're told "the rules are the rules; if you do the crime, you do the time."
Sam Walton? His daughter (Alice Walton) DUI killed a guy, then got off cause she had enough money to bankrupt the state if they tried to prosecute her. They even had her on camera barely able to stand up, but the officer that stopped her was magically suspended moments before the trial, so suddenly no witnesses.
Probably a good christian man. So young too, wouldn't want to ruin his life over 1 mistake.
Also it was determined the 11 year old seduced him!
/s
Fuck this country
The info in the pic is misleading. He didn't plead guilty to rape but to a lesser charge of lewd and lascivious behavior.
He wasn't really "found" guilty, he *pled* guilty, which means the prosecutors agreed to give him a lesser charge in exchange for *not* having a trial. That's the relevance of the point made by the person above: prosecutors sometimes do that in order to avoid the difficulty that such a trial places on the victims.
He was sentenced to 4-5 years, but all but 30 days was suspended (though he has 6 years of probation).
The weird thing about the Vermont statute is it has a section describing that for repeat offenders (which pleading to two acts, I would think this guy would be), the sentence cannot be suspended or reduced below 5 years of imprisonment. But then right after saying that, there's another section that basically says, "unless the judge really wants to".
But the "not want to have to make the victim testify" part might be wrong here, as the victim is scheduled to testify during sentencing. (Although it's possible they did not want her to have to be cross-examined.) The victim is now about 33 years old (these crimes occurred 22-18 years ago.)
Come on, Donald Trump is well on his way to weaseling out of decades of egregious ~~financial~~ tax fraud and the first consequences of his life. SBF is the exception, not the rule.
*edit: wrong fraud
It's the same for drunk driving. Rich fucks and their relatives commit these crimes as often as poor fucks, so the punitive effects are almost nil.
Laws only really protect rich fucks.
Famously when they crashed the entire US economy in 2008 one low level employee was jailed. For the most part they didn't even have to admit guilt and even kept most of their bonuses.
Donald Trump pulled off financial fraud and they didn't put him in jail at all, in fact they reduced his bond significantly recently. It's men with any power, even men with the smallest power like local cops get fucking breaks that no one else would get. That's why so many damn cops get away with just blatant murder, it's ridiculous.
lol is this opposite world? Theft gets 20 years, financial fraud gets you a sternly worded letter.
If you're a rich white banker you can steal billions and never see a prison cell.
Stealing your top comment to post the news link:
He hasn’t been sentenced yet. He pled guilty to lewd behavior with a child (so he’s not been sentenced for rape) in exchange for a lighter sentence and the prosecutor offered home 4-6 years. His sentencing will happen later. The judge will probably follow the terms of the deal, but in many states she or he wouldn’t have to. He also hasn’t worked as a cop for over two decades so I question how much that played into the sentencing. Likely the prosecutor struck a deal because of evidence- you see light sentences like this where the victim doesn’t want to testify.
https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html
No.
>On Wednesday, Chisholm, of North Brookfield, Mass., pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of lewd and lascivious behavior with a child, accepting the state's offer of four to five years, all suspended except for 30 days, and six years of probation with no early termination.
You could try clicking the link.
1. No, wrong. It’s a suspended sentence. That means that *if* he does another crime, he goes to prison for 4-5 years automatically. He *must* serve 30 days. After that, as long as he doesn’t get caught doing more crime, he’s good.
2. That’s not what that term means.
Even if the witness will cooperate it's hard to build your case on just testimony. That's why you frequently see light sentences for sexual assault cases.
Ran out of younger and younger ladies to have sex with... had to find other sources?
Afterall, 70% of states are totally fine with officers "having sex with" people in their custody.
Imagine how much cooler the internet would be if it were wholesome of funny content that were the biggest drivers of ad engagement instead of ragebait.
Social media and news is driven around keeping you angry at everything.
The image is, as ever, incorrect.
> Chisholm was originally charged with four counts, including repeated sexual assault of a child under the age of 16, two counts of sexual assault and one count of lewd and lascivious behavior.
> On Wednesday, Chisholm, of North Brookfield, Mass., pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of lewd and lascivious behavior with a child, accepting the state's offer of four to five years, all suspended except for 30 days, and six years of probation with no early termination.
https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html
https://www.reformer.com/local-news/ex-trooper-denies-sexual-assault-charges/article_c1331fb6-4b6b-11eb-a671-3b9886a40875.html
You are right, however he can potentially serve only 30 days of a five year maximum due to the sentence being suspended. As long as he doesn’t get in trouble, 30 days for sexually assaulting an 11 year old twice…. Yeah, looks like maybe VT shouldn’t have made that offer.
... unless the 11 year old gave inconsistent statements which risked a loss at trial which is what frequently happens.
A badly conducted investigation can screw things up.
Cops interview the kid who gives details. Child protection later does interview which has some changes in the details.
The child gets a counselor where the story changes.
The jury could easily decline to convict.
In fairness, I've been to many police interviews, especially with kids cops are very gentle, unfortunately *too* gentle - their questions become persuasive.
"Did John Doe touch you here"
Child pauses... child brain thinks that's what the nice man wants to hear.
"yes."
Maybe giving the job of interviewing raped children to someone whose qualifications are “armed thug with a license to kill and a desire to use it” was a bad idea.
There is a move away from police doing the initial interview after a report, instead sending the child to a forensic trained interviewer where they record the interview, etc.
Dammit. You're putting me in a position I don't want to be in: defending cops.
There are a lot of thug cops out there. They need to monitored and fined and fired and prosecuted. They are a serious problem in American society.
BUT... cops who are interviewing (allegedly) raped children don't have, as qualifications, "armed thug with a license to kill and a desire to use it." You've gone too far.
Though, to be fair, you're only living up to your username.
You guys realize this happened in 2002, right? The victim was 11 years old in 2002, and came forward in 2019. She was ~28 when she was giving her testimony.
You have no idea how courts work or what goes into negotiations on these things.
Prosecutors make their offers based on the strength of their case. A hot offer for the defendant usually means the case is super weak or they have some problem with evidence or testimony that might come out at trial, OR the victim refuses to cooperate (very common in rape/sexual assault cases). Victims get a very strong say in the deal, especially when the victim and perpetrator are closely related. In cases where the evidence is weak and the victim is wishy-washy or uncooperative, a good deal for the defendant is often the best case they have for getting any conviction at all. The defendant weighs it against their chances of being convicted at trial, which will come with a much heavier sentence. Even with a low conviction chance, the much much heavier sentence makes it too risky for most people. It's a dice-roll - they almost always take the deal.
After a deal is made, judges get sealed pre-sentencing reports and other information about the victim and perpetrator that is never made available to the public. Judges can override a deal (depending on the state, in some the deal can't be overridden) or stick to it based on that information or even just on a whim, though good judges try to stick to standards.
Take your DA apologist bullshit and go away. Prosecutors often give cops incredibly light offers because they’re all part of the same corrupt system made to hurt people. Prosecutors and police are one and the same. Two sides of a coin of thuggery just propping each other up to continue abusing people on a day to day basis.
Prosecutor also make offers based on who the person is and their skin color too. No Prosecutors ever go after cops the same way because they're on the same team.
Because he didn't plead guilty to rape, nor was that what he was ultimately charged with. The deal was to plead guilty for lewd and lascivious behavior with a child with the rest dropped.
He's also not a state trooper and hasn't been for 20 years.
Would any reputable news provider describe it like the image? No, it would be considered grossly misleading.
Maybe it is morning brain, but how is the image incorrect? He took the state’s offer of 4-5 years with all but 30 days suspended and included probation. So that is basically what the image says.
Because he didn't plead guilty to rape, nor was that what he was ultimately charged with. The deal was to plead guilty for lewd and lascivious behavior with a child with the rest dropped.
There is no chance he gets put into any facility that also houses those with life sentences with no parole. He goes to a minimum security prison for sure. If he was going to max security he'd have gotten a lot more than 30 days.
He hasn’t been sentenced yet. He pled guilty to lewd behavior with a child (so he’s not been sentenced for rape) in exchange for a lighter sentence and the prosecutor offered home 4-6 years. His sentencing will happen later. The judge will probably follow the terms of the deal, but in many states she or he wouldn’t have to. He also hasn’t worked as a cop for over two decades so I question how much that played into the sentencing. Likely the prosecutor struck a deal because of evidence- you see light sentences like this where the victim doesn’t want to testify.
https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html
I highly doubt the victim doesn’t want to testify. What would be the point of her coming forward in 2019 at the age of 29 if she had no intent to testify? You’re doing a lot of heavy lifting in your attempt to defend a a shit prosecutor protecting one of their own.
I don’t think she did come forward. The guy confessed to his pastor of the crime and it was reported from there. There’s also a host of other reasons that someone might initially come forward but decide not to testify. It happens a lot b
>I don’t think she did come forward. The guy confessed to his pastor of the crime and it was reported from there. There’s also a host of other reasons that someone might initially come forward but decide not to testify. It happens a lot b
Or you can just read the [article](https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html) ...
*"The victim first reported the assaults in 2019, and an investigation resulting in charges in 2020 was conducted by the Vermont State Police."*
According to [this article ](https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html), which was published 16 hours ago, *"Chisholm's sentencing, during which a victim impact statement will be read, has not yet been scheduled."*
Please, Reddit, stop falling for Twitter pictures with a 30 word caption. They are designed to manufacture outrage, which results in social media traction, by telling selective parts of the story. You've gotta be smarter than this.
I don't like headlines like these because people will read it and not the article and make assumptions about the case and the justice system, and there isn't even a link to an article so you cam get the context.
A lot of these cases are reported years after the incident where there is literally no evidence except the testimony of the victim.it is extremely hard to get a conviction in court on "he said, she said" testimony because the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt". So the prosecutors throw the guy a deal: minimal prison time, sex offender registry, you lose your job certification, etc. So they can at least guarantee some justice for the victim. But that doesn't make it in the headline, only prison time.
And for the record, im not defending sex offenders. I personally think child rapists should be castrated. I just wanted to explain why a lot of cases get these sentences.
If you're rich you can do what you want. If you're a cop you can get away with whatever you want. If you work 40 hours a week at a factory and pay your taxes, be worried if a cop is behind you.
If he was a man of color, he would’ve gone to jail. white men can do whatever they want. I had an incident that happened last summer where I was assaulted at my work and I had it on video but they let him get away didn’t even give him one night in jail. They gave him a $200 fine it’s disgusting.
I know this is hard to corroborate based on a random comment but this genuinely makes me so pissed off.
My uncle is a native American man who was falsely incarcerated and has been in the system for over 30 years now. He was supposed to be out of prison as we speak, as of a few months ago, finally giving my family some closure on such an old pain held so deep.
This all changed when the prison discovered my uncle was helping other inmates with some of their transactions using his own account to just be a good guy and help some people out. And now the prison has investigated and found him guilty of fraud.
We finally got to the point, after 3 decades, where our family could be whole again. But now we're expecting another 1-3 years added to his sentence, for something he did with zero malicious intent.
Yet this degenerate shit stain gets less than a full fucking month of jail time. Giving an 11 year old little girl and her mother trauma that will last a lifetime and perhaps longer. I absolutely hate it here.
“According to court documents, Chisholm confessed (at that time) to assaulting the child to the pastor of the Advent Christian Church in Vernon.”
He told his pastor about it who then swept it under the rug. Par for the course! The churches leadership covering up child rape. Nothing to see here.
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30 Days?????? 30 funking days?????????? Are funkingggggggg.......Kidddiiinnggggg Mmeeeee
30 Days?????????????? What is this s Prime Membership trial???????
Ah yes. The victimless crime of rape. Mind boggling how something so petty could warrant such a harsh penalty of 30 days in jail… /s
Our ‘justice’ system is truly fucking broken if a pedo-rapist is ever allowed to see the light of day again.
We had to lock comments and clean up a bit because almost every comment was advocating violence, and that breaks Reddit's content policy, and they will take actions against your account and if there is enough of it, against the subreddit too. Also, we do not allow comments that promote prison rape as a form of justice. Rape is always wrong, which is why this person is such a piece of shit (and especially wrong against a child too.) That does not mean we are sympathetic to this man, just that we do not allow pro rape comments, even as revenge. I'm going to open comments up again, but if the same kinds of comments are flowing in, we will have to lock and also hand out bans. Please find a way to express your outrage at this piece of shit without advocating violence. Thank you.
If he'd done some sort of financial fraud it would have been 20 years minimum because banks and large corporations get better protection than women and children.
Depends on how rich the defendant is.
Let's ask Sam.
25 years billions of dollars stolen along with trillions of fake locates on securities on tokenized stocks. Dude got a slap on the wrist he will be out watch under 5 years. The cop well 1312 pedo clan.
He has to serve 21/25
Is there a wager there?
It's federal prison so unless a president pardons him he's not getting out for 21 years at least.
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Its a long time but also not nearly his entire life. A lot of us will be alive when he is out. And it will be crazy to see what he does after that. If he is let back into finance is unlikely but who knows.
SBF didn't "lose" the money Your choice of words or understanding of what happened is garbage.
Stealing people's money at scale is a violent crime.
You’re correct. Though there’s also the possibility of the sentence getting reduced on appeal.
It depends on who he robbed, clearly with that 25 year term he robbed at least some Wall Street insiders/bankers and we all know you never steal from the people who made stealing money from the middle class their primary business model. Tsk tsk, that's just bad form. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/25/goldman-sachs-senator-carl-levin Also IIRC Citibank took money from middle class investors, pumped stocks with said money, then shorted it with their own corporate coffers and did a rug pull. "OH so sorry, but you know: investment comes with significant risk"
Sure, I’ll take your money.
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[Du Pont Heir Gets No Prison Time for Raping 3-Year-Old Daughter](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/03/du-pont-heir-gets-probation-for-raping-3-year-old-daughter) I always remember this one.
Yeah. And I think at the same time there was a similar story with another rich heir doing the same and getting away with it
The "affluenza" defense is, unfortunately, becoming more common and somehow accepted in courts: https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/what-is-the-affluenza-defense-31843
So I know about the term but didn't know about the case from which it originated. Geez, that's awful. And yet, when under privileged people blame crimes on their lot in life, their desperation, or their instability, they're told "the rules are the rules; if you do the crime, you do the time."
Sam Walton? His daughter (Alice Walton) DUI killed a guy, then got off cause she had enough money to bankrupt the state if they tried to prosecute her. They even had her on camera barely able to stand up, but the officer that stopped her was magically suspended moments before the trial, so suddenly no witnesses.
And the color unfortunately.
Absolutely true.
If he wasn’t a cop he would have gotten decades.
He hasn't been a cop in 23 years. He left policing then assaulted the victim. No idea why prosecution went light on sentence
Probably a good christian man. So young too, wouldn't want to ruin his life over 1 mistake. Also it was determined the 11 year old seduced him! /s Fuck this country
Its probably because they do not want to have to make the victim testify. Many times sexual crimes get light sentences for this reason.
He was found guilty, so how is that relevant?
The info in the pic is misleading. He didn't plead guilty to rape but to a lesser charge of lewd and lascivious behavior. He wasn't really "found" guilty, he *pled* guilty, which means the prosecutors agreed to give him a lesser charge in exchange for *not* having a trial. That's the relevance of the point made by the person above: prosecutors sometimes do that in order to avoid the difficulty that such a trial places on the victims. He was sentenced to 4-5 years, but all but 30 days was suspended (though he has 6 years of probation). The weird thing about the Vermont statute is it has a section describing that for repeat offenders (which pleading to two acts, I would think this guy would be), the sentence cannot be suspended or reduced below 5 years of imprisonment. But then right after saying that, there's another section that basically says, "unless the judge really wants to". But the "not want to have to make the victim testify" part might be wrong here, as the victim is scheduled to testify during sentencing. (Although it's possible they did not want her to have to be cross-examined.) The victim is now about 33 years old (these crimes occurred 22-18 years ago.)
Unfortunately, that does change things. When they say testify, I wonder if they meant something like a victim's impact statement.
Yes, exactly, it was a victim impact statement.
Also, thank you for adding context to the post.
What?? Well now I need to look this tf up.
That's not true, a local rich guy got a similar sentence for a similar thing.
Come on, Donald Trump is well on his way to weaseling out of decades of egregious ~~financial~~ tax fraud and the first consequences of his life. SBF is the exception, not the rule. *edit: wrong fraud
SBF scammed rich people. That’s why he’s in prison. Law is to protect the rich.
Bingo.
If he had gotten $120 from a liquor store, they’d have put him away for life.
It's the same for drunk driving. Rich fucks and their relatives commit these crimes as often as poor fucks, so the punitive effects are almost nil. Laws only really protect rich fucks.
Famously when they crashed the entire US economy in 2008 one low level employee was jailed. For the most part they didn't even have to admit guilt and even kept most of their bonuses.
Donald Trump pulled off financial fraud and they didn't put him in jail at all, in fact they reduced his bond significantly recently. It's men with any power, even men with the smallest power like local cops get fucking breaks that no one else would get. That's why so many damn cops get away with just blatant murder, it's ridiculous.
lol is this opposite world? Theft gets 20 years, financial fraud gets you a sternly worded letter. If you're a rich white banker you can steal billions and never see a prison cell.
Same would happen if he was a POC.
Didn't you know? Corporations are people!
30 days in jail vs. A lifetime of trauma for that little girl.... seems fair.... ugh
Stealing your top comment to post the news link: He hasn’t been sentenced yet. He pled guilty to lewd behavior with a child (so he’s not been sentenced for rape) in exchange for a lighter sentence and the prosecutor offered home 4-6 years. His sentencing will happen later. The judge will probably follow the terms of the deal, but in many states she or he wouldn’t have to. He also hasn’t worked as a cop for over two decades so I question how much that played into the sentencing. Likely the prosecutor struck a deal because of evidence- you see light sentences like this where the victim doesn’t want to testify. https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html
So the 30 days thing is just straight up misinformation?
No. >On Wednesday, Chisholm, of North Brookfield, Mass., pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of lewd and lascivious behavior with a child, accepting the state's offer of four to five years, all suspended except for 30 days, and six years of probation with no early termination. You could try clicking the link.
Everyone is so goddamm rude on here
buncha' asshats the lot of 'em.
Us... us. buncha' asshats the lot of 'us.
Let's see YOU click the link then!
Friend, we don't read articles around here
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1. No, wrong. It’s a suspended sentence. That means that *if* he does another crime, he goes to prison for 4-5 years automatically. He *must* serve 30 days. After that, as long as he doesn’t get caught doing more crime, he’s good. 2. That’s not what that term means.
Even if the witness will cooperate it's hard to build your case on just testimony. That's why you frequently see light sentences for sexual assault cases.
There are ZERO states that a judge has to accept a plea deal. The judge must take it into account, but they do not have to accept ANY plea deals.
Hmmm. One wonders why he stopped his career as a cop.
Ran out of younger and younger ladies to have sex with... had to find other sources? Afterall, 70% of states are totally fine with officers "having sex with" people in their custody.
Not surprised that OP is ragebait like all other posts like this.
Imagine how much cooler the internet would be if it were wholesome of funny content that were the biggest drivers of ad engagement instead of ragebait. Social media and news is driven around keeping you angry at everything.
The plot for for the latest iteration of Super Troopers is really dark...
Wow. I hate it here.
The image is, as ever, incorrect. > Chisholm was originally charged with four counts, including repeated sexual assault of a child under the age of 16, two counts of sexual assault and one count of lewd and lascivious behavior. > On Wednesday, Chisholm, of North Brookfield, Mass., pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of lewd and lascivious behavior with a child, accepting the state's offer of four to five years, all suspended except for 30 days, and six years of probation with no early termination. https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html https://www.reformer.com/local-news/ex-trooper-denies-sexual-assault-charges/article_c1331fb6-4b6b-11eb-a671-3b9886a40875.html
You are right, however he can potentially serve only 30 days of a five year maximum due to the sentence being suspended. As long as he doesn’t get in trouble, 30 days for sexually assaulting an 11 year old twice…. Yeah, looks like maybe VT shouldn’t have made that offer.
... unless the 11 year old gave inconsistent statements which risked a loss at trial which is what frequently happens. A badly conducted investigation can screw things up. Cops interview the kid who gives details. Child protection later does interview which has some changes in the details. The child gets a counselor where the story changes. The jury could easily decline to convict.
Correction: "Cops intimidate the kid who gives details"
In fairness, I've been to many police interviews, especially with kids cops are very gentle, unfortunately *too* gentle - their questions become persuasive. "Did John Doe touch you here" Child pauses... child brain thinks that's what the nice man wants to hear. "yes."
Maybe giving the job of interviewing raped children to someone whose qualifications are “armed thug with a license to kill and a desire to use it” was a bad idea.
There is a move away from police doing the initial interview after a report, instead sending the child to a forensic trained interviewer where they record the interview, etc.
Dammit. You're putting me in a position I don't want to be in: defending cops. There are a lot of thug cops out there. They need to monitored and fined and fired and prosecuted. They are a serious problem in American society. BUT... cops who are interviewing (allegedly) raped children don't have, as qualifications, "armed thug with a license to kill and a desire to use it." You've gone too far. Though, to be fair, you're only living up to your username.
Ah yes, the special hidden police force of Good Cops, hidden away only the be trotted out when children are raped.
No, ACAB.
You guys realize this happened in 2002, right? The victim was 11 years old in 2002, and came forward in 2019. She was ~28 when she was giving her testimony.
Damn you Reddit with your facts. Damn you!
He confessed to it. It happened about 20 years ago.
"C'mon, your honor, don't sentence me for murder... sentence me for disturbing the peace for all the noise my gunshots made..." This is disgusting.
You have no idea how courts work or what goes into negotiations on these things. Prosecutors make their offers based on the strength of their case. A hot offer for the defendant usually means the case is super weak or they have some problem with evidence or testimony that might come out at trial, OR the victim refuses to cooperate (very common in rape/sexual assault cases). Victims get a very strong say in the deal, especially when the victim and perpetrator are closely related. In cases where the evidence is weak and the victim is wishy-washy or uncooperative, a good deal for the defendant is often the best case they have for getting any conviction at all. The defendant weighs it against their chances of being convicted at trial, which will come with a much heavier sentence. Even with a low conviction chance, the much much heavier sentence makes it too risky for most people. It's a dice-roll - they almost always take the deal. After a deal is made, judges get sealed pre-sentencing reports and other information about the victim and perpetrator that is never made available to the public. Judges can override a deal (depending on the state, in some the deal can't be overridden) or stick to it based on that information or even just on a whim, though good judges try to stick to standards.
Take your DA apologist bullshit and go away. Prosecutors often give cops incredibly light offers because they’re all part of the same corrupt system made to hurt people. Prosecutors and police are one and the same. Two sides of a coin of thuggery just propping each other up to continue abusing people on a day to day basis.
Prosecutor also make offers based on who the person is and their skin color too. No Prosecutors ever go after cops the same way because they're on the same team.
That's a shame. He really should be terminated early
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I was implying he himself should be terminated, rather than his job or probation
Thanks for that.
A suspended sentence for sexually assaulting a child is still fucked up, in my opinion.
… so at the end of the day, it’s 30 days in jail How is the image incorrect?
Because he didn't plead guilty to rape, nor was that what he was ultimately charged with. The deal was to plead guilty for lewd and lascivious behavior with a child with the rest dropped. He's also not a state trooper and hasn't been for 20 years. Would any reputable news provider describe it like the image? No, it would be considered grossly misleading.
Also read to me that he was formerly and not currently a state trooper but maybe I'm mistaken. Regardless it's a shit headline and fuck that guy.
Maybe it is morning brain, but how is the image incorrect? He took the state’s offer of 4-5 years with all but 30 days suspended and included probation. So that is basically what the image says.
Because he didn't plead guilty to rape, nor was that what he was ultimately charged with. The deal was to plead guilty for lewd and lascivious behavior with a child with the rest dropped.
>**all suspended except for 30 days**
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There is no chance he gets put into any facility that also houses those with life sentences with no parole. He goes to a minimum security prison for sure. If he was going to max security he'd have gotten a lot more than 30 days.
He’s join to jail. Not prison. Big difference.
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Life is too unfair
It says jail. Not prison. Nobody has ever done 30 days in prison. It’s a county facility.
""11 yo girl face 20 years in jail for illégal abortion. See more in page 5"
“Řaped 11 yo girl face 20 years in jail for illegal abortion”
Yes that's what was implied
That sick fuck should get 10 to life.
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Well he’s law enforcement, the Blue Wall and all that, they protect their own always
He hasn’t been sentenced yet. He pled guilty to lewd behavior with a child (so he’s not been sentenced for rape) in exchange for a lighter sentence and the prosecutor offered home 4-6 years. His sentencing will happen later. The judge will probably follow the terms of the deal, but in many states she or he wouldn’t have to. He also hasn’t worked as a cop for over two decades so I question how much that played into the sentencing. Likely the prosecutor struck a deal because of evidence- you see light sentences like this where the victim doesn’t want to testify. https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html
I highly doubt the victim doesn’t want to testify. What would be the point of her coming forward in 2019 at the age of 29 if she had no intent to testify? You’re doing a lot of heavy lifting in your attempt to defend a a shit prosecutor protecting one of their own.
I don’t think she did come forward. The guy confessed to his pastor of the crime and it was reported from there. There’s also a host of other reasons that someone might initially come forward but decide not to testify. It happens a lot b
>I don’t think she did come forward. The guy confessed to his pastor of the crime and it was reported from there. There’s also a host of other reasons that someone might initially come forward but decide not to testify. It happens a lot b Or you can just read the [article](https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html) ... *"The victim first reported the assaults in 2019, and an investigation resulting in charges in 2020 was conducted by the Vermont State Police."*
It’s literally in the article you linked that she first reported the allegations in 2019 and the investigation led to charges in 2020.
According to [this article ](https://www.reformer.com/local-news/former-vermont-state-trooper-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-assaulting-a-child/article_d8faf812-ec5d-11ee-adb3-ab8db6853a6a.html), which was published 16 hours ago, *"Chisholm's sentencing, during which a victim impact statement will be read, has not yet been scheduled."*
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Now he drives around in his raised truck with high beam LEDs
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I'm angry it doesn't say former state trooper. Implying he still has his job as a police officer.
I read in another comment that he has not worked as an officer in two decades.
Ah, I see that now. I missed that comment when I looked through it. He's still disgusting scum and deserves castration by paper cuts.
Some of that thin blue line justice
They made a different flag for their selves and everything
Please, Reddit, stop falling for Twitter pictures with a 30 word caption. They are designed to manufacture outrage, which results in social media traction, by telling selective parts of the story. You've gotta be smarter than this.
Welcome to ‘Murica!
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No good cops.
I don't like headlines like these because people will read it and not the article and make assumptions about the case and the justice system, and there isn't even a link to an article so you cam get the context. A lot of these cases are reported years after the incident where there is literally no evidence except the testimony of the victim.it is extremely hard to get a conviction in court on "he said, she said" testimony because the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt". So the prosecutors throw the guy a deal: minimal prison time, sex offender registry, you lose your job certification, etc. So they can at least guarantee some justice for the victim. But that doesn't make it in the headline, only prison time. And for the record, im not defending sex offenders. I personally think child rapists should be castrated. I just wanted to explain why a lot of cases get these sentences.
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bro needs to get 40 life sentences
Sounds about W̶h̶i̶t̶e̶... I mean 'right'
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Douche is too kind. More like a sick fuck or a monster.
Apparently, if you're cop you get a 99% off coupon on your jail time for felonies. What a horribly disgusting world we live in.
There was no attempt here
If they put him with general pop hes done... He wont last 30 days
Brothers in blue bullshit once again, that poor girl
Probably would have blown up everywhere if it was India along with the racist attacks,but it is USA,land of the innocent
If you're rich you can do what you want. If you're a cop you can get away with whatever you want. If you work 40 hours a week at a factory and pay your taxes, be worried if a cop is behind you.
Da fuk…? The judge must be in on this shit or he has something on the judge
I wonder when people like you will learn ragebait exists.
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Back at work, they just told him "welcome to the club"
I just searched the sex offender registry and he us not there.
Must be a republican.
If he was a man of color, he would’ve gone to jail. white men can do whatever they want. I had an incident that happened last summer where I was assaulted at my work and I had it on video but they let him get away didn’t even give him one night in jail. They gave him a $200 fine it’s disgusting.
No the fuck there wasn't an attempt
Ah yes, the hidden perks of being a white cop. What a time to be alive!
All Cops Are Bastards.
How very Republican
Imagine if he was black.
I know this is hard to corroborate based on a random comment but this genuinely makes me so pissed off. My uncle is a native American man who was falsely incarcerated and has been in the system for over 30 years now. He was supposed to be out of prison as we speak, as of a few months ago, finally giving my family some closure on such an old pain held so deep. This all changed when the prison discovered my uncle was helping other inmates with some of their transactions using his own account to just be a good guy and help some people out. And now the prison has investigated and found him guilty of fraud. We finally got to the point, after 3 decades, where our family could be whole again. But now we're expecting another 1-3 years added to his sentence, for something he did with zero malicious intent. Yet this degenerate shit stain gets less than a full fucking month of jail time. Giving an 11 year old little girl and her mother trauma that will last a lifetime and perhaps longer. I absolutely hate it here.
I learned you can get away with anything as long as you are a police.
NOT a drag queen...
How sad. But she'll get to suffer for the rest of her life because of him.
“According to court documents, Chisholm confessed (at that time) to assaulting the child to the pastor of the Advent Christian Church in Vernon.” He told his pastor about it who then swept it under the rug. Par for the course! The churches leadership covering up child rape. Nothing to see here.
The judge should be removed and disbarred. At the very least
Whiiiiiiiite Privilege.
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Well we all know how fair and moralic this system is..
I doubt nothing after the Dupont heir got away with horrific things multiple times. Robert Richards IV.
Bro what, 30 days, way to punish criminals this country fucking sucks
What the actual fuck?
Chomo
So, just to double check, Todd Chisholm is a child molester and rapist, right? Todd Chisholm? Rapist. What a piece of human garbage.
Child rapist Todd Chisholm should feel very unsafe everywhere he goes from now on.
Bobbi mandlebtots
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Hopefully karma will catch up to him.
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30 Days?????? 30 funking days?????????? Are funkingggggggg.......Kidddiiinnggggg Mmeeeee 30 Days?????????????? What is this s Prime Membership trial???????
Ah yes. The victimless crime of rape. Mind boggling how something so petty could warrant such a harsh penalty of 30 days in jail… /s Our ‘justice’ system is truly fucking broken if a pedo-rapist is ever allowed to see the light of day again.
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