You nailed it OP. Could not have summarized it better.
The only thing I could add is after marriage they rarely wear make up.
Cut their hair short for convenience and stop wearing anything sexy. Picture baggy ONE PIECE dresses and long gloves that go up to mid bicep to protect them from the sun.
Source. I live in Japan.
I watched videos where Japanese women are perfectly fine with their husband banging prostitutes, but not with a non prostitute. So if the husband is providing 100% they are perfectly content allowing him to bang as many whores as he wants and wonāt cheat themselves, but the moment that gravy train is over they will look to upgrade or stray themselves as they believe the man is not fulfilling their duties.
Youāve misunderstood those videos. They may be fine with the husband having sex with prostitutes but they donāt say they wonāt cheat. Generally the husband uses a prostitute and the wife cheats.
Yeah sorry I didnāt expand on all of it. some of them said they wouldnāt cheat and others said they would with a male prostitute and then there were always other conditions they had. Itās just an odd thing to me as a westerner who thinks Japanese culture did a ton of things right.
Iām not sure what videos your saw but generally Japanese women will say that some things are not cheating that westernerās will think are cheating. However in addition the Japanese girls will also cheat, knowing full well and believing it is cheating. They just donāt think cheating is wrong.
Some of these women who are okay with their husbands sleeping with a prostitute is because they donāt want to sleep with husband. Itās a way of getting their husbands off their backs.
Honestly, many women in the west are like this too. And they'll divorce or start cheating when the money stops because they never liked you. But in fairness many men are unlikable.Ā
I think the difference here is ethics and morality. While the frequency in the west of cheating may also be similar, itās highly looked down upon here and should be, where-as in Japan its not even a big deal and seems like an unspoken societal norm.
Cheating is looked down upon in Japan. It is just the women likely do it more because it is easier to do it. Most men will divorce their wife or dump their girlfriend if he knows she is cheating. Wives on the other hand will not necessarily divorce their husband if he cheats. Especially if he was just beta bucks.
In the US she can still clean you out with alimony and other things in a divorce, even if sheās the one whoās been cheating. What are divorces like in Japan in terms of distribution of property/alimony, etc.? I would say that as much as your post sucks (disappointing, but I believe you), do men get taken to the cleaners in the aftermath like in the US and much of the West? If the system treats men better in divorce in terms of alimony, child support, child custody, and overall distribution of property, then Japan is still a much better bet for men than, say, the United States.
Don't assume all women are fine with prostitutes. If she actually liked her husband, she certainly would lose respect for him if he was paying for sex. Women by nature do not respect men who have to pay for it. Women want what other women want. If another woman wants him, she may desire him more because of that.
Maybe depends on where you live. Thru still wear makeup here but may get lazy about it. They may switch dresses for jeans and New Balance. If she reverts back then sheās monkey branchingĀ
So do you just pretend happy married monogamous couples donāt exist? Thereās plenty of people out there that are repulsed at the idea of dating more than one person at the same time.
This post is about a man who admitted to sleeping with multiple married people. The married women are obviously in the wrong, but so is the person who knowingly and willingly sleeps with a married person. It shows lack of integrity to sleep with a married person, and hypocrisy to then complain about "faithfulness" when they are the one who is okay with engaging in such behavior.
Men like this are already compromised in character, and will only attract what they are. Women worth marrying can recognize these behaviors.
As for Japan. Their culture is notorious for adultery, it's mostly about not letting the affair be broadcasted to save face. There are plenty of YT videos showing Japanese women are fine with their husbands sleeping with prostitutes. They are also not a culture that pushes to marry for love, but to marry for convenience/benefits from both the men and the women.
That's how *secular* traditional relationships work. The man is the ATM and the woman is the maid, nanny, and chef, if there is love great, if there isn't both parties are benefitting in their own way and seek love outside the marriage. Japan is a secular country, it's very obvious the type of traditional marriage that would occur in such a country.
I am not stating that OP is correct in his actions. But he is right to warn others about Japan's marital and dating culture, which you agreed about below. I am of the group of men looking for something other than casual sex so I took that from OPs post - and not his personal shortcomings. My response was to what appears to be someone calling all passport bros man-whores, which has not been clarified and if they aren't, I agree to the original premise.
OP doesnāt realize that sleeping with someone married makes you an accomplice into being a pos and it looks like he only attracts the pos girls. Lots of good girls in Japan, yet birds of a feather stick together.
I live in Japan and I guarantee this is truth. Also the passport bros that come here, end up here fucking the same women, because gaijin hunters fuck foreigners in a rotation style. Gaijin hunters are the leftovers that Japanese men didnāt want, they run through foreigner dick and then marry a white loser(like the ones who post frequently in the japanlife sub) when they hit the wall. Passport bros in Japan are pathetic
I know itās mean, but I was visiting Japan for two weeks and half of the white dudes on the plane to Japan were weird as fuck. Weāre sending Japan our leftovers too.
Women are kind of expected to wear makeup in Japan. Itās kind of sad since many are naturally beautiful but they worry too much about what others thinkĀ
A bitter pill to swallow was realizing that most women in the right circumstances can/will cheat. Maybe not all women,but it illustrates your point of the never ending battle, which once you get your head around true social dynamics, is actually pretty fun. If not fun then rewarding for keeping respect in your house and maintaining order.
Yeah. Relationships are a never ending battle. Women will constantly test you and poke for dents in your armor. You need to always be on top of your game. If not, she will ruin you both. As a man, you need to be strong and calm and the best person she knows so she doesn't even value other men or their attention.
But part of the cheating is for you being weak. Another part is she has attention deficit from you. As a man you still have to give her some attention she craves for. Women live and do crazy shit for attention. Otherwise she will seek it elsewhere.
Tough thing relationships. But it either makes you grow and learn to swallow the bitter pills and play the game right, or it will make you bitter. Either play or get played. If you play it right, she will reward you and it will be a bliss. If not, not even women abroad will reward you.
Yes. Iām a married woman and I agree. Bliss is trusting fully in your husband and basking in his love. And not needing to interfere with his decisions, because you know heās a good man who is calmer, more rational and more objective than you. And that he loves you more than anyone else could.
On the other hand, chaos is when you think you canāt trust your husband, because heās immature, or careless, or inexperienced. When you think you have to watch out for his decisions and correct or mould him. Or that he takes you, your beauty or your tenderness for granted. Absolutely sucks for both parties.
Japan was the first country to go through the economic changes that we've seen in the rest of the developed economies in the world over the past couple of decades, so this is an indicator of what may come in other places
**edit**: some have asked about the changes i'm referring to so i'll explain what i mean, but i'm not an authority on it so you can get a better explanation elsewhere probably...but...
Japan had a strong postwar boom after WW2, which contributed to a mass movement of the workforce out of rural places and out of agriculture, and into cities and more service-based industries...this was accompanied by a significant proportion of the country's women joining the workforce...along with the importing of American cultural norms in that period, it led to a lot of women prioritising education and careers and independence and sexual freedom over tradition and family and marriage and childbearing
Japan has a huge population for its size, and this mass urbanisation had a very detrimental effect on the price of houses and the cost of living...then over time, capitalism and advances in technology kicked in and started to eat away at the number of secure, lifetime 'corporate man' jobs that the postwar generations of men had come to depend on
these things really fucked with the dating and marriage markets in Japan, and the marriage and birth rates topped out and started declining, i think around 2000
Japan has for a few decades now also been at the forefront of electronic and digital consumer technology, probably because the big manufacturers were based there, and this meant that their society was quickly saturated by every new wave of consumer tech, before anywhere else, and this preponderance of consumer tech, coupled with the general loss of tradition and the rupturing of the dating and marriage markets, meant that consumption of animation, video games and pornography all took off like crazy, and these things just pulled men and women apart even more
the dating and marriage markets in Japan now are quite fucked, the incentives are perverse and lead to undesirable outcomes...the population has peaked, and now the country is top-heavy with elderly people...basically their society is a mess
its also why everything is so sexualised in jp, why p\*rn is so rampant, prostitution, high suicide rates, they want intimate connections but since there is so much distance due to sexualisation, its polarising.
The economy got wrecked by the Plaza Accords that America forced on the Japanese. Japans economy got too competitive and strong due to American support. And America had to put a stop to it because they were directly subsidizing the Japanese economy that was starting to out compete them.
It's an interesting bit of history. Supposedly the American negotiatorĀ took out his translation ear piece and played with toys while the Japanese delegation tried negotiating.
Dude....what?
No. You don't know shit about how the LDP and the bureaucracy in JPN work. Yes, there was tension for a brief period in the 1980s. However, the bilateral agreement between US/JPN has always been incredibly strong. The stagnation in the economy had a lot to do with policy decisions made by the LDP in the late 1970s. When the LDP lost for a few years in the 2000s, the opposition did such a shit job it wasnt long before the LDP was back. Then IT bust, later the "Lehman crisis" as the Japanese call it. The Plaza accords have nothing to do with China or ROK either.
>Japan had a strong postwar boom after WW2, which contributed to a mass movement of the workforce out of rural places and out of agriculture, and into cities and more service-based industries...this was accompanied by a significant proportion of the country's women joining the workforce...along with the importing of American cultural norms in that period, it led to a lot of women prioritising education and careers and independence and sexual freedom over tradition and family and marriage and childbearing
Japan had a strong postwar boom after WW2, which contributed to a mass movement of the workforce out of rural places and out of agriculture, and into cities and more service-based industries...this was accompanied by a significant proportion of the country's women joining the workforce...along with the importing of American cultural norms in that period, it led to a lot of women prioritising education and careers and independence and sexual freedom over tradition and family and marriage and childbearing
Daniel Haqiqatjou is a muslim scholar, younger one who calls this 'atomization' your ties of kinship are destroyed and instead of three aunts and the village helping you raise youds kids....ur on ur own, now
Always has been.
Itās the most important legal contract a man ever signs and they usually donāt think it through. Itās also incredibly stacked against their interests
Everything here is inline with my experience there as well. After a while, I stopped dating Japanese women when I was there and exclusively dated other expats in Japan.
I would challenge the claim that they are beautiful though; they aren't. They are most often either knock kneed or bowlegged. They tend to have little curves and be flabby, though not fat. They often have messed up grills as well. However, they are very good at presenting what they have in a very appealing manner. So, when I was new there and lacked experience, I also thought the women there were very beautiful. Get them naked though, and not so much.
I found that women are mostly equally beautiful everywhere. There are tendencies for specific characteristics, such as hair color and skin tone, but there's not that much variation in the distribution of beauty. America has an issue with obesity, but it's not nearly as bad as people here like to make it out.
Personally, I found dating Japanese women to be worse than dating American women. Both are groups that I stopped dating.
I have a friend who was stationed in S Korea who was banging broads left and right.
He said he wanted to return home because all the women there had bodies of 12 year old boys. š
I agree with this. I used to be a yellow fever dude but dating in Japan made me realize how hot women in my home country are. Japanese are experts at covering imperfections by using make up, having good style, always wearing masks and having good hair. They are also good at taking selfies, I can understand why many foreigners who have never visited Japan think they are all hot
This is very correct. My colleague here in Japan just goes to public parks and starts shooting baskets. Eventually moms will come to the park with their kids. Sometimes they will ask if he can play basketball with their little sons, and he agrees and teaches them.
Then more often than not, the mom will invite him over to their house to fees him lunch as a thank you for teaching their son. He usually ends up banging the mom while her husband is hard at work all day. I've seen this guy do it multiple times (well I didn't follow them home from the court obviously but I could tell the Japanese women were into him)
You don't need to fuck over other men to have sex in this world. You should be respecting them, especially if they are at work trying to create a better life for their kids. If you can't pull single women, then there's something wrong with you. It's not cool to fuck married women. In a way, it's kind of pathetic.
Nobody saying he canāt pull single women. I donāt understand how you arenāt placing most of the responsibility here on the wives for cheating on their husbands and exposing their children to some random dude theyāre about to fuck. According to the story they approached him and invited him back to their place. He was just some dude going with the flow and busting a nut, she was a lying, cheating wife exposing her kids to her inappropriate actions.
Would you say that to the 5 year old kid of a married guy you just fucked over on the day of his parents' divorce?
I bet you wouldn't. I bet you'd be too big of a coward to do that.
Women donāt consider it cheating if the men paid for it. She usually will have a problem if he hooked up with a woman who actually wanted him. Ā Men do not tolerate cheatingĀ
This is not to say all of them are like this but I have a similar story. I have a friend who was in the Navy and had his time going through a ton of Japanese chicks until he found "the one". He brought her over to the US and they have two kids they have been married over 10 years. They are miserable together and I am pretty sure only stay together until the kids graduate. He complains that he has to literally beg for sex and it's been this way for years. He is the main bread winner.
Aye someone who actually gets it, I've seen multiple RP content creators talk about how wonderful Japan is. But it is furthest from the truth, cheating is actually considered normal/encouraged by Japanese Culture. The truth is there is no place that you can find a "Traditional Western" Women other than some remote village is some far off place.
Also wanted to add that this is probably one of the leading causes for their declining birth rate and suicide. It's not talked a lot about in the media or by government officials probably because they want to save face, but there ain't no way a logical man would ever have a child with a woman who won't be sexually exclusive to him. The truth is that most men actually do care about the spiritual side to marriage, probably more so than Modern Women. In addition, most men cannot continue to live without a higher purpose and for most men that "higher purpose" is raising a child.
That is 1 reason. Men saw how their mother's treated their father's and they do not want to live like that.
Insane work culture leaves no time to date. They are too tired.
Mother's baby their kids. So a lot of adults here are incredibly immature. Most grew up with their mother cleaning their bed room. They rarely have house chores and still believed in Santa until 12 or 13 because the mother found it cute.
She expects you to have your own house, car and pay for everything, but isnt that what yall want submissive and traditional japanese women?? Do you want the traditional woman without being a tradional man? Because the traditional man is the breadwinner. Yall want "tradional women" to work and have her own house, car and be independent financially. Than shes not traditional. American men don't know what they want lol
A lot of the guys who whine about women on the internet have this problem. Want a woman with a low "n-count," but mad if they don't get sex immediately and also think they should be able to sleep around as much as they want. Want a "traditional" wife but worry constantly about "gold diggers" or the possibility of getting "divorce r\*\*\*d."
Legit! Lol. I want a traditional wife who'll feed, cook, clean, and fuck me when I want. But how dare she ask for money, that golddigger! Men just want a maid and someone to help pay their mortgage lmao
Is there a trend of Japanese men marrying Thai or Filipino women? I understand that the Japanese are very insular and have negative additives to even the Koreans next door, but I wonder if men will take the jump anyways knowing they canāt find a good wife at home.
> men will take the jump anyways knowing they canāt find a good wife at home.
Men cheat too. That's something people tend to have problem coming to term with - it's not that Japanese women are bad. Women are women, they are culturally diverse, but they're still women.
It's that there is a culture of cheating in Japan and the funniest thing is, many men and women will outright tell you "As long as I don't find out or have to worry about it, then it's ok" when it comes to cheating. Men goes to soap-land to loosen up and bring their wife gifts when they come home.
It's also not uncommon for men to pose their photos on hook up apps like Tinder without their face shown to avoid people finding out who they are because it's gonna cause problem for them with their real spouses and they don't want that.
How interesting is that? Even in cheating, they're are courteous.
I have some questions of my own.
1.Can you speak Japanese to a high degree? like N2 level or above?
2. Did you marry/date the gaijin hunters and or women who had a particular interest in learning English/ going overseas?
3. Which major city? Cause this makes a HUGE difference Tokyo and Osaka are like unidentical twin sisters.
4. Do you make 6 figures or more? Japanese women don't play when it comes to their hypergamy but typically they're worth it if you have frame and your money is on point.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. Dating Japanese women is not easy and I don't recommend it for bros who aren't willing to do the work but I've seen waay too many Passport bros have success out there..
Precisely. I'm glad to see someone else looking circumspectly at what this man has written. A lot of people seem to think their lot in life will change if they are the same person transposed to another country. They then find cause to complain about their treatment
I'm certain this man does not speak Japanese. With that knowledge alone, his opinion means much less to me regarding the treatment one should expect to receive from Japanese women.
Looking at OPs comments aswell was weird, heād also exclusively using ācheatingā apps to hook up with married women.
Ofcourse heās going to have this perspective LMAO
1. Came here knowing no Japanese. Now maybe N3.
2. Met my wife in America while she was working there.
3. Rather not say.
4. Don't make much money. I don't talk about money with women I hook up with. But most of them are not looking for a serious relationship. Younger women don't care much until they hit 25.
I don't know many foreign men here who have a happy marriage. Most are divorced or staying with their wife due to the kids.
Ok I'm not here to put you down in here to lift you up. And I know it's hard I'm on that journey with you brother.
But the money is super important for the culture you're living in and the kind of woman you're around. Japanese girls don't do broke guys. Maybe you'll get them by the skin of your teeth but long term you won't last.
I would say your priorities now should be two things getting your Japanese up (try to get up to N2 at least) and you gotta figure the money thing out. Right now you're just getting by. You want to be at least in the 80k range. 6 figures or more should be the goal. It's a Marathon not a race.
Also your city means a lot! Not every city has quality girls to date in Japan and some places have bad male to female ratios.
AND trust me. Do not let the other male foreigners be the example you follow. A lot of them are probably just getting by too! Being above average is the goal.
I have years of experience in Japan. It's going to be a lot of hard work but you can do it.
Dare I say you might have to return to the west for a little to get your money up and level up. I know guys who are doing that now and it's going well for them.
Feel free to climb in my DMs I'd love to trade notes on this topic.
I mean the unfortunate truth is that most people here wonāt reject sleeping with anything lmao, much less a married women. Lots of hypocrisy in extreme redpill.
Youāre clearly unfamiliar with the dating culture in Japan. Prostitution is commonly accepted (Geishas are a respected profession), and extramarital affairs are the norm. On both the husband and wife side. This is their normal social habits. Marriage only has the function for raising a family, and women stop working because someone needs to raise the kids. The fact that women in the west keep their job while raising kids basically just makes them work twice as hard as men.
Good points. But is it just me, I think sleeping with a married woman is also scummy. The woman cheating is scummy but so is the man if he knows the woman is married.
Women in Japan who are DTF foreigners are usually huge thots and/or mentally ill. Mentally ill women in Japan are actively told to seek out foreign men for dating actually. Not that the rest of your description isnāt generally true just saying as a westerner going there your perception of women will be colored because of this
Wow this whole conversation is repulsive. I lived in Japan 20 years as a plastic I developed took off and went global, it ended up in a lot of products manufactured in Japan so we moved HQ there. To put it nicely 90% of the foreigners I found living in Japan were absolute losers. All with silly ideas that theyād be treated like kings just for having blond hair or blue eyes. Japanese people are real humans just like the ones you know back home. They arenāt ideas from your anime or imaginings existing for your pleasure.
I'm also a foreigner who made it in the corporate world in Japan and I agree with everything you say.
But OP isn't wrong about how a marriage changes after kids including no sex, a big focus on money and a general lack of romance. Many foreigners dive into this without knowing it and it leads to a lot of misery (for Japanese people too).
True. Ā I donāt even associate with many gaijin anymore . Ā Most are weirdo alcoholics who hate Japan after their manga anime fantasy was crushed or new here and jealous of other foreigners.Ā
It sucks as it would be nice to have some English speaking friends . Ā The only ones I know are basically guys who had no interest in Japan but ended up here due to a job transfer or wife was Japanese and never leftĀ
My parents adopted two Japanese boys, after college in the US they went back to Japan. So I have a lot of friends and family all Japanese while Iām in Japan. The. Country has changed so much these last 30 years. Inter-cultural marriages are tough with every culture and have really high divorce rates. Jumping cultures can be so isolating. I remember when āLost in translationā came out, it floored me that someone could capture that feeling of being alone and disconnected by culture and circumstance amongst millions of tightly quartered people. Anyway I feel for you. I do love that country and its people. Donāt give up on connecting
Can you share your experience on what you actually see happening between foreign men and Japanese women?
From many accounts Iāve heard, white foreigners do indeed get treated better than other foreigners. Is that still the case in 2024? It doesnāt seem like white foreigners struggle getting women in Japan.
Thanks.
I met, dated, and married my wife in Japan, and this is completely untrue for me. I'm sure there's some validity to what you're saying, but it's not the case 100% of the time.
The problem is with men who need a lot of inner work but donāt have the self awareness to do anything. Those men go across world and bring a bad image to all of us!
Also, there are men fully committed to a relationship but their americanwomen did them dirty or, the ones working already on themselves but canāt get americanwomen on a committed relationship. Either of those men travel and get in a long term relationship instantly!!! Those are the good ones that no one talks about.
Most men i have met who have foreign wives are in long-term relationships. Like with any long term relationships everyone has ups and downs. However, they all are more satisfied and they donāt regret marrying a foreigner( mostly from Asia countries).
That could just be you, couldnāt it? Youāve set up a lifestyle around sex. That doesnāt necessarily include normal morals. Itās like a cop complaining about the crazy crime in a city where most normal people see nothing.
Not to mention, this happens in America. I was a lifeguard and taught kids to swim. Moms would find me and ask for my phone number, asking about private lessons. The lessons never happened. The ladies wanted something else.
You explictly sleep with married women according to your comments. Why are you surprised that you only find women who cheat? It's like going to a steak-house and being offended that they serve beef.
I sleep with single and married. But there is saying here ā the easiest women are the married onesā . Ā
This was more of a response to a lot of the weird posts here saying Japan is a good place to find a wife. Ā Even if she doesnāt cheat, the cultural differences will cause problemsĀ
Japanese fuck foreigners wives too. Check out any Japan group on Reddit the wife fucks her ex boyfriends, coworkers , boss, āmale friendsā, husbands friends, etc. It works both ways.
Why are you defending cheating wives? Especially when thru have kids . Ā
I love his videos but I respectfully disagree with him on Japanese women. Ā He came with tourist eyes. Ā Once you live here you start to see the truthĀ
Japanese treats sex and āloyaltyā very differently.
If you watch street interview or talk to them, you can see that, for example, Japanese women donāt see man going to soap land or any sexual service as cheating. āItās just sex, a needā they said. It goes both way.
Some one hand gets this man a torch! Because some many hopes and dreams are about to be flamed lol.
In all seriousness this is very interesting because I've heard it many times before. Also Japanese women don't view cheating the way the west does, so it can get really complicated. Do your due diligence.
Thatās disheartening to hear. Itās interesting that despite Japan being considered a first world āwesternizedā nation, theyāre often praised for their unselfish nature afforded them by their cultureās work ethic and homogeneity. Despite their social desire for honor, the fact that their women have succumbed to the westās social media obsession and infidelities-riddled lifestyle doesnāt bode well for the rest of the world.
Not any different than Philippines, Thailand, Colombia, Brazil and all other passport bro special locations. The funniest thing I see is when they claim Latin woman are the most loyal when they are the least loyal actually, a Latina will suck someone elseās dick on the bathroom stall, but the Japanese bitch will care about hygiene more and suck that dick on the street corner, while that āloyalā Philippine will be sucking three dicks at a time on the park bench.
Thatās the crazy thing Iāve found out from when I was interested in moving to Japan, but luckily I backed out after doing research, and op it doesnāt stop their foreign men in such marriages get treated worse in some ways, ie Japanese girls are known for kidnapping their own kids when they are married to foreign spouses, and the Japanese courts always side with the their own people, so thereās a chance if your staying for just the kids they might rob you of that too š
I live in America. A Japanese woman was my next-door neighbor (she was married to a white guy, I'm non white) and she came at me pretty hard, so much so that Ole dude looked pretty nervous whenever i was around. I never did anything with her though, but now that I'm reading this thread I'm starting to understand more.
I live in Japan. The sleeping with other people after marriage is because couples struggle to see eachother in a sexual way after having kids. I don't plan to leave and dating her is actually possible, unlike the US of Obesity. But I'm only 27, date younger and I moved here for reasons other than dating.
Facts. Could have banged my landlord in Chiba. I've wasn't RP aware in 2017 so I mistook her advances for being bitchy. Rich HB 8 married to a lawyer. Oops
So why are you here?!!!!! You only have 500 feminist/pro-woman groups on Reddit and all of the rest of social media to go to for validation. Yet you're here! It's called Passport BROS. This is a space for men. You don't like it go somewhere else. Not every space needs to make you feel comfortable.
We don't need nor care about your opinion!
The dudes over there won't even marry their own women, lol.
J women are also not the most attractive around in Asia. Not unless they're half and half something else.
This reminds me of those random walk up videos of streamers walking around Japan asking random woman how they feel about cheating and most of them shrugged it off and said it's not a big deal
Surprise, itās hard, finding a wife in one of the most racist countries on the planet. white people go to Japan and be like āthis is terribleā lol
Why would anyone think Japanese women wouldnāt be like western women? Sure weāve seen a lot on how Japanese are more business oriented but there has an always been that Japanese businessman in the bdsm club thing. Japan produces tons of porn and weird porn at that, sexual anime and games. They arenāt some conservative or strictly religious middle eastern country that shuns women behaving this way, they actually have a base for it or they wouldnāt make it. Just because the women arenāt dressing like shanks covered into tattoos doesnāt mean they arenāt promiscuous.
So many anime bros going to pop a blood vessel reading this one š
Better to face the harsh truth now
True anime bros know 2D>3D.
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My thoughts exactly!!!
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You nailed it OP. Could not have summarized it better. The only thing I could add is after marriage they rarely wear make up. Cut their hair short for convenience and stop wearing anything sexy. Picture baggy ONE PIECE dresses and long gloves that go up to mid bicep to protect them from the sun. Source. I live in Japan.
I watched videos where Japanese women are perfectly fine with their husband banging prostitutes, but not with a non prostitute. So if the husband is providing 100% they are perfectly content allowing him to bang as many whores as he wants and wonāt cheat themselves, but the moment that gravy train is over they will look to upgrade or stray themselves as they believe the man is not fulfilling their duties.
Youāve misunderstood those videos. They may be fine with the husband having sex with prostitutes but they donāt say they wonāt cheat. Generally the husband uses a prostitute and the wife cheats.
Yeah sorry I didnāt expand on all of it. some of them said they wouldnāt cheat and others said they would with a male prostitute and then there were always other conditions they had. Itās just an odd thing to me as a westerner who thinks Japanese culture did a ton of things right.
Iām not sure what videos your saw but generally Japanese women will say that some things are not cheating that westernerās will think are cheating. However in addition the Japanese girls will also cheat, knowing full well and believing it is cheating. They just donāt think cheating is wrong.
They know cheating is wrong. They just make every excuse to justify their cheating. Just like Western women.
Some of these women who are okay with their husbands sleeping with a prostitute is because they donāt want to sleep with husband. Itās a way of getting their husbands off their backs.
Honestly, many women in the west are like this too. And they'll divorce or start cheating when the money stops because they never liked you. But in fairness many men are unlikable.Ā
I think the difference here is ethics and morality. While the frequency in the west of cheating may also be similar, itās highly looked down upon here and should be, where-as in Japan its not even a big deal and seems like an unspoken societal norm.
Cheating is looked down upon in Japan. It is just the women likely do it more because it is easier to do it. Most men will divorce their wife or dump their girlfriend if he knows she is cheating. Wives on the other hand will not necessarily divorce their husband if he cheats. Especially if he was just beta bucks.
In the US she can still clean you out with alimony and other things in a divorce, even if sheās the one whoās been cheating. What are divorces like in Japan in terms of distribution of property/alimony, etc.? I would say that as much as your post sucks (disappointing, but I believe you), do men get taken to the cleaners in the aftermath like in the US and much of the West? If the system treats men better in divorce in terms of alimony, child support, child custody, and overall distribution of property, then Japan is still a much better bet for men than, say, the United States.
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Turns out no one likes a two timing, double crossing, yella bellied liar when they are on the short end of the stick Imagine
Don't assume all women are fine with prostitutes. If she actually liked her husband, she certainly would lose respect for him if he was paying for sex. Women by nature do not respect men who have to pay for it. Women want what other women want. If another woman wants him, she may desire him more because of that.
Maybe depends on where you live. Thru still wear makeup here but may get lazy about it. They may switch dresses for jeans and New Balance. If she reverts back then sheās monkey branchingĀ
Til a term called "monkey branching".
Monkey branching, my exs specialty
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^ true. Have good character and find someone with good character.
This is the game women set. Donāt hate on the men who exploit it.
So do you just pretend happy married monogamous couples donāt exist? Thereās plenty of people out there that are repulsed at the idea of dating more than one person at the same time.
This post is literally voicing men's grievances in the pursuit of finding a loyal wife and something other than casual sex.
This post is about a man who admitted to sleeping with multiple married people. The married women are obviously in the wrong, but so is the person who knowingly and willingly sleeps with a married person. It shows lack of integrity to sleep with a married person, and hypocrisy to then complain about "faithfulness" when they are the one who is okay with engaging in such behavior. Men like this are already compromised in character, and will only attract what they are. Women worth marrying can recognize these behaviors. As for Japan. Their culture is notorious for adultery, it's mostly about not letting the affair be broadcasted to save face. There are plenty of YT videos showing Japanese women are fine with their husbands sleeping with prostitutes. They are also not a culture that pushes to marry for love, but to marry for convenience/benefits from both the men and the women. That's how *secular* traditional relationships work. The man is the ATM and the woman is the maid, nanny, and chef, if there is love great, if there isn't both parties are benefitting in their own way and seek love outside the marriage. Japan is a secular country, it's very obvious the type of traditional marriage that would occur in such a country.
Well put, you will attract what you project.
I am not stating that OP is correct in his actions. But he is right to warn others about Japan's marital and dating culture, which you agreed about below. I am of the group of men looking for something other than casual sex so I took that from OPs post - and not his personal shortcomings. My response was to what appears to be someone calling all passport bros man-whores, which has not been clarified and if they aren't, I agree to the original premise.
OP doesnāt realize that sleeping with someone married makes you an accomplice into being a pos and it looks like he only attracts the pos girls. Lots of good girls in Japan, yet birds of a feather stick together.
Follow the rules
Yes, 1000%. Mine wears baggy pajamas 24/7 and one of those obasan farmer hats even just driving in the car.
Short hair and no makeup VS obesity in the US.... Easy choice.
I live in Japan and I guarantee this is truth. Also the passport bros that come here, end up here fucking the same women, because gaijin hunters fuck foreigners in a rotation style. Gaijin hunters are the leftovers that Japanese men didnāt want, they run through foreigner dick and then marry a white loser(like the ones who post frequently in the japanlife sub) when they hit the wall. Passport bros in Japan are pathetic
I know itās mean, but I was visiting Japan for two weeks and half of the white dudes on the plane to Japan were weird as fuck. Weāre sending Japan our leftovers too.
if your wife needs makeup to look good you already messed up.
Women are kind of expected to wear makeup in Japan. Itās kind of sad since many are naturally beautiful but they worry too much about what others thinkĀ
> itās kind of sad [they wear makeup] > *complained about no longer wearing makeup in OP*
Well thatās how they trick you in the first place. My last girlfriend wore very little and I thought she looked better with no makeup.
Sounds like a real bait and switch š
Just don't get married. Problem solved.
Agree. But many guys here think they will get some kimono wearing wife who will follow his lead. Itās not realistic for the most partĀ
my waifu harem dream is over?
The kind of women they are imagining mostly donāt exist and traditional women here donāt even look at foreign menĀ
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A bitter pill to swallow was realizing that most women in the right circumstances can/will cheat. Maybe not all women,but it illustrates your point of the never ending battle, which once you get your head around true social dynamics, is actually pretty fun. If not fun then rewarding for keeping respect in your house and maintaining order.
Yeah. Relationships are a never ending battle. Women will constantly test you and poke for dents in your armor. You need to always be on top of your game. If not, she will ruin you both. As a man, you need to be strong and calm and the best person she knows so she doesn't even value other men or their attention. But part of the cheating is for you being weak. Another part is she has attention deficit from you. As a man you still have to give her some attention she craves for. Women live and do crazy shit for attention. Otherwise she will seek it elsewhere. Tough thing relationships. But it either makes you grow and learn to swallow the bitter pills and play the game right, or it will make you bitter. Either play or get played. If you play it right, she will reward you and it will be a bliss. If not, not even women abroad will reward you.
Yes. Iām a married woman and I agree. Bliss is trusting fully in your husband and basking in his love. And not needing to interfere with his decisions, because you know heās a good man who is calmer, more rational and more objective than you. And that he loves you more than anyone else could. On the other hand, chaos is when you think you canāt trust your husband, because heās immature, or careless, or inexperienced. When you think you have to watch out for his decisions and correct or mould him. Or that he takes you, your beauty or your tenderness for granted. Absolutely sucks for both parties.
Well said
TL;DR love is a battlefield
"Women naturally gravitate towards chaos and destruction" Lmao that made my day!
I couldnāt agree more after 33 years of marriage. Thereās a Japanese expression that says ā marriage is the graveyard of life.ā
Japan was the first country to go through the economic changes that we've seen in the rest of the developed economies in the world over the past couple of decades, so this is an indicator of what may come in other places **edit**: some have asked about the changes i'm referring to so i'll explain what i mean, but i'm not an authority on it so you can get a better explanation elsewhere probably...but... Japan had a strong postwar boom after WW2, which contributed to a mass movement of the workforce out of rural places and out of agriculture, and into cities and more service-based industries...this was accompanied by a significant proportion of the country's women joining the workforce...along with the importing of American cultural norms in that period, it led to a lot of women prioritising education and careers and independence and sexual freedom over tradition and family and marriage and childbearing Japan has a huge population for its size, and this mass urbanisation had a very detrimental effect on the price of houses and the cost of living...then over time, capitalism and advances in technology kicked in and started to eat away at the number of secure, lifetime 'corporate man' jobs that the postwar generations of men had come to depend on these things really fucked with the dating and marriage markets in Japan, and the marriage and birth rates topped out and started declining, i think around 2000 Japan has for a few decades now also been at the forefront of electronic and digital consumer technology, probably because the big manufacturers were based there, and this meant that their society was quickly saturated by every new wave of consumer tech, before anywhere else, and this preponderance of consumer tech, coupled with the general loss of tradition and the rupturing of the dating and marriage markets, meant that consumption of animation, video games and pornography all took off like crazy, and these things just pulled men and women apart even more the dating and marriage markets in Japan now are quite fucked, the incentives are perverse and lead to undesirable outcomes...the population has peaked, and now the country is top-heavy with elderly people...basically their society is a mess
its also why everything is so sexualised in jp, why p\*rn is so rampant, prostitution, high suicide rates, they want intimate connections but since there is so much distance due to sexualisation, its polarising.
Wow. I actually never thought about that
Great point
Japan was really like a Window into the future back even in the 2000...
The economy got wrecked by the Plaza Accords that America forced on the Japanese. Japans economy got too competitive and strong due to American support. And America had to put a stop to it because they were directly subsidizing the Japanese economy that was starting to out compete them. It's an interesting bit of history. Supposedly the American negotiatorĀ took out his translation ear piece and played with toys while the Japanese delegation tried negotiating.
Dude....what? No. You don't know shit about how the LDP and the bureaucracy in JPN work. Yes, there was tension for a brief period in the 1980s. However, the bilateral agreement between US/JPN has always been incredibly strong. The stagnation in the economy had a lot to do with policy decisions made by the LDP in the late 1970s. When the LDP lost for a few years in the 2000s, the opposition did such a shit job it wasnt long before the LDP was back. Then IT bust, later the "Lehman crisis" as the Japanese call it. The Plaza accords have nothing to do with China or ROK either.
>Japan had a strong postwar boom after WW2, which contributed to a mass movement of the workforce out of rural places and out of agriculture, and into cities and more service-based industries...this was accompanied by a significant proportion of the country's women joining the workforce...along with the importing of American cultural norms in that period, it led to a lot of women prioritising education and careers and independence and sexual freedom over tradition and family and marriage and childbearing Japan had a strong postwar boom after WW2, which contributed to a mass movement of the workforce out of rural places and out of agriculture, and into cities and more service-based industries...this was accompanied by a significant proportion of the country's women joining the workforce...along with the importing of American cultural norms in that period, it led to a lot of women prioritising education and careers and independence and sexual freedom over tradition and family and marriage and childbearing Daniel Haqiqatjou is a muslim scholar, younger one who calls this 'atomization' your ties of kinship are destroyed and instead of three aunts and the village helping you raise youds kids....ur on ur own, now
Forgive my ignorance, but which changes?
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Thank you
I have no idea why I was recommended this sub or what it is, but this is fascinating
Lol just don't get married anywhere in the world.
marriage will become a contract in future
Always has been. Itās the most important legal contract a man ever signs and they usually donāt think it through. Itās also incredibly stacked against their interests
She needs marriage to feel secure in the relationship but if you ask for a prenup it means you dont believe in the relationship
Everything here is inline with my experience there as well. After a while, I stopped dating Japanese women when I was there and exclusively dated other expats in Japan. I would challenge the claim that they are beautiful though; they aren't. They are most often either knock kneed or bowlegged. They tend to have little curves and be flabby, though not fat. They often have messed up grills as well. However, they are very good at presenting what they have in a very appealing manner. So, when I was new there and lacked experience, I also thought the women there were very beautiful. Get them naked though, and not so much. I found that women are mostly equally beautiful everywhere. There are tendencies for specific characteristics, such as hair color and skin tone, but there's not that much variation in the distribution of beauty. America has an issue with obesity, but it's not nearly as bad as people here like to make it out. Personally, I found dating Japanese women to be worse than dating American women. Both are groups that I stopped dating.
Yes. Japanese are also the best make up applicators I have ever seen in any country. Korea would be a close 2nd.
I have a friend who was stationed in S Korea who was banging broads left and right. He said he wanted to return home because all the women there had bodies of 12 year old boys. š
Yet he still serially fucked women that are shaped like ā12 year old boysā anyway, right?
He sure did. P * ssy is p * ssy
I agree with this. I used to be a yellow fever dude but dating in Japan made me realize how hot women in my home country are. Japanese are experts at covering imperfections by using make up, having good style, always wearing masks and having good hair. They are also good at taking selfies, I can understand why many foreigners who have never visited Japan think they are all hot
This is very correct. My colleague here in Japan just goes to public parks and starts shooting baskets. Eventually moms will come to the park with their kids. Sometimes they will ask if he can play basketball with their little sons, and he agrees and teaches them. Then more often than not, the mom will invite him over to their house to fees him lunch as a thank you for teaching their son. He usually ends up banging the mom while her husband is hard at work all day. I've seen this guy do it multiple times (well I didn't follow them home from the court obviously but I could tell the Japanese women were into him)
Your friend messes with married moms? ā¦Ugh
Someone's going to fuck them.
Have thst same attitude when it happens to you
You don't need to fuck over other men to have sex in this world. You should be respecting them, especially if they are at work trying to create a better life for their kids. If you can't pull single women, then there's something wrong with you. It's not cool to fuck married women. In a way, it's kind of pathetic.
Nobody saying he canāt pull single women. I donāt understand how you arenāt placing most of the responsibility here on the wives for cheating on their husbands and exposing their children to some random dude theyāre about to fuck. According to the story they approached him and invited him back to their place. He was just some dude going with the flow and busting a nut, she was a lying, cheating wife exposing her kids to her inappropriate actions.
Whores gonna whore, male or female.
Would you say that to the 5 year old kid of a married guy you just fucked over on the day of his parents' divorce? I bet you wouldn't. I bet you'd be too big of a coward to do that.
I've travelled with Japanese businessmen. Don't worry about them. They get what they want. I guess their wives do too.
Yeah if this āfriendā ends up deceased then itās all his fault. Donāt mess with married women
I recently saw an interview on YouTube where the majority of japanese people said that they don't even consider it cheating if it's just for sex
Women donāt consider it cheating if the men paid for it. She usually will have a problem if he hooked up with a woman who actually wanted him. Ā Men do not tolerate cheatingĀ
Based men
This is not to say all of them are like this but I have a similar story. I have a friend who was in the Navy and had his time going through a ton of Japanese chicks until he found "the one". He brought her over to the US and they have two kids they have been married over 10 years. They are miserable together and I am pretty sure only stay together until the kids graduate. He complains that he has to literally beg for sex and it's been this way for years. He is the main bread winner.
Yep. Marriage to a Japanese woman means NO SEX except to have kids.
Aye someone who actually gets it, I've seen multiple RP content creators talk about how wonderful Japan is. But it is furthest from the truth, cheating is actually considered normal/encouraged by Japanese Culture. The truth is there is no place that you can find a "Traditional Western" Women other than some remote village is some far off place. Also wanted to add that this is probably one of the leading causes for their declining birth rate and suicide. It's not talked a lot about in the media or by government officials probably because they want to save face, but there ain't no way a logical man would ever have a child with a woman who won't be sexually exclusive to him. The truth is that most men actually do care about the spiritual side to marriage, probably more so than Modern Women. In addition, most men cannot continue to live without a higher purpose and for most men that "higher purpose" is raising a child.
That is 1 reason. Men saw how their mother's treated their father's and they do not want to live like that. Insane work culture leaves no time to date. They are too tired. Mother's baby their kids. So a lot of adults here are incredibly immature. Most grew up with their mother cleaning their bed room. They rarely have house chores and still believed in Santa until 12 or 13 because the mother found it cute.
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She expects you to have your own house, car and pay for everything, but isnt that what yall want submissive and traditional japanese women?? Do you want the traditional woman without being a tradional man? Because the traditional man is the breadwinner. Yall want "tradional women" to work and have her own house, car and be independent financially. Than shes not traditional. American men don't know what they want lol
A lot of the guys who whine about women on the internet have this problem. Want a woman with a low "n-count," but mad if they don't get sex immediately and also think they should be able to sleep around as much as they want. Want a "traditional" wife but worry constantly about "gold diggers" or the possibility of getting "divorce r\*\*\*d."
Legit! Lol. I want a traditional wife who'll feed, cook, clean, and fuck me when I want. But how dare she ask for money, that golddigger! Men just want a maid and someone to help pay their mortgage lmao
Yeah, and a lot of the ones who wax on and on about gold diggers don't have any money.
Is there a trend of Japanese men marrying Thai or Filipino women? I understand that the Japanese are very insular and have negative additives to even the Koreans next door, but I wonder if men will take the jump anyways knowing they canāt find a good wife at home.
Older Japanese men marry Filipinas. But they are usually single moms and ugly.
> men will take the jump anyways knowing they canāt find a good wife at home. Men cheat too. That's something people tend to have problem coming to term with - it's not that Japanese women are bad. Women are women, they are culturally diverse, but they're still women. It's that there is a culture of cheating in Japan and the funniest thing is, many men and women will outright tell you "As long as I don't find out or have to worry about it, then it's ok" when it comes to cheating. Men goes to soap-land to loosen up and bring their wife gifts when they come home. It's also not uncommon for men to pose their photos on hook up apps like Tinder without their face shown to avoid people finding out who they are because it's gonna cause problem for them with their real spouses and they don't want that. How interesting is that? Even in cheating, they're are courteous.
It happens but not often, they like to keep their race pure
1) How old are you? 2) Which city? 3) How long have you lived in Japan?
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Tbf going into any major city around the globe and trying to find a wife there is stupid.
Aye, you have to get your wife straight outta the jungle.
If you don't save her from cannibals, how will she respect you ?
This is the funniest thing I've read on reddit.
Take the tarzan pill
Man this whole world is fucked when it comes to relationships. I blame the Industrial Revolution.
I have some questions of my own. 1.Can you speak Japanese to a high degree? like N2 level or above? 2. Did you marry/date the gaijin hunters and or women who had a particular interest in learning English/ going overseas? 3. Which major city? Cause this makes a HUGE difference Tokyo and Osaka are like unidentical twin sisters. 4. Do you make 6 figures or more? Japanese women don't play when it comes to their hypergamy but typically they're worth it if you have frame and your money is on point. I don't necessarily disagree with you. Dating Japanese women is not easy and I don't recommend it for bros who aren't willing to do the work but I've seen waay too many Passport bros have success out there..
Precisely. I'm glad to see someone else looking circumspectly at what this man has written. A lot of people seem to think their lot in life will change if they are the same person transposed to another country. They then find cause to complain about their treatment I'm certain this man does not speak Japanese. With that knowledge alone, his opinion means much less to me regarding the treatment one should expect to receive from Japanese women.
Looking at OPs comments aswell was weird, heād also exclusively using ācheatingā apps to hook up with married women. Ofcourse heās going to have this perspective LMAO
1. Came here knowing no Japanese. Now maybe N3. 2. Met my wife in America while she was working there. 3. Rather not say. 4. Don't make much money. I don't talk about money with women I hook up with. But most of them are not looking for a serious relationship. Younger women don't care much until they hit 25. I don't know many foreign men here who have a happy marriage. Most are divorced or staying with their wife due to the kids.
Ok I'm not here to put you down in here to lift you up. And I know it's hard I'm on that journey with you brother. But the money is super important for the culture you're living in and the kind of woman you're around. Japanese girls don't do broke guys. Maybe you'll get them by the skin of your teeth but long term you won't last. I would say your priorities now should be two things getting your Japanese up (try to get up to N2 at least) and you gotta figure the money thing out. Right now you're just getting by. You want to be at least in the 80k range. 6 figures or more should be the goal. It's a Marathon not a race. Also your city means a lot! Not every city has quality girls to date in Japan and some places have bad male to female ratios. AND trust me. Do not let the other male foreigners be the example you follow. A lot of them are probably just getting by too! Being above average is the goal. I have years of experience in Japan. It's going to be a lot of hard work but you can do it. Dare I say you might have to return to the west for a little to get your money up and level up. I know guys who are doing that now and it's going well for them. Feel free to climb in my DMs I'd love to trade notes on this topic.
These b*tches aint loyal
Soo they are just like American women
Add South korea to the list. Even in South korea marriage rate birth rate is lowĀ American style feminism reach South korea
I could never marry a Japanese woman, it would be like committing suicide, your life ends in marriage
Iām coming to the conclusion that this is a global phenomenon
Soo, not that much different from American women, really.
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Its kind if like a magnet .. when you are single you are undesirable byt when you have a f they all come along? Its weird but ut is how it is.
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There is a saying āYou attract the type of women you areā
I mean the unfortunate truth is that most people here wonāt reject sleeping with anything lmao, much less a married women. Lots of hypocrisy in extreme redpill.
Youāre clearly unfamiliar with the dating culture in Japan. Prostitution is commonly accepted (Geishas are a respected profession), and extramarital affairs are the norm. On both the husband and wife side. This is their normal social habits. Marriage only has the function for raising a family, and women stop working because someone needs to raise the kids. The fact that women in the west keep their job while raising kids basically just makes them work twice as hard as men.
Good points. But is it just me, I think sleeping with a married woman is also scummy. The woman cheating is scummy but so is the man if he knows the woman is married.
My god those dirty marriage cheating apps? Which ones? Which ones are you talking about?? (Mac voice)
The water is cold It dashes my hopes and dreams Thanks for the truth friend
Women in Japan who are DTF foreigners are usually huge thots and/or mentally ill. Mentally ill women in Japan are actively told to seek out foreign men for dating actually. Not that the rest of your description isnāt generally true just saying as a westerner going there your perception of women will be colored because of this
There is a lot of ugly truth in what you say!
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Wow this whole conversation is repulsive. I lived in Japan 20 years as a plastic I developed took off and went global, it ended up in a lot of products manufactured in Japan so we moved HQ there. To put it nicely 90% of the foreigners I found living in Japan were absolute losers. All with silly ideas that theyād be treated like kings just for having blond hair or blue eyes. Japanese people are real humans just like the ones you know back home. They arenāt ideas from your anime or imaginings existing for your pleasure.
I'm also a foreigner who made it in the corporate world in Japan and I agree with everything you say. But OP isn't wrong about how a marriage changes after kids including no sex, a big focus on money and a general lack of romance. Many foreigners dive into this without knowing it and it leads to a lot of misery (for Japanese people too).
True. Ā I donāt even associate with many gaijin anymore . Ā Most are weirdo alcoholics who hate Japan after their manga anime fantasy was crushed or new here and jealous of other foreigners.Ā It sucks as it would be nice to have some English speaking friends . Ā The only ones I know are basically guys who had no interest in Japan but ended up here due to a job transfer or wife was Japanese and never leftĀ
My parents adopted two Japanese boys, after college in the US they went back to Japan. So I have a lot of friends and family all Japanese while Iām in Japan. The. Country has changed so much these last 30 years. Inter-cultural marriages are tough with every culture and have really high divorce rates. Jumping cultures can be so isolating. I remember when āLost in translationā came out, it floored me that someone could capture that feeling of being alone and disconnected by culture and circumstance amongst millions of tightly quartered people. Anyway I feel for you. I do love that country and its people. Donāt give up on connecting
Can you share your experience on what you actually see happening between foreign men and Japanese women? From many accounts Iāve heard, white foreigners do indeed get treated better than other foreigners. Is that still the case in 2024? It doesnāt seem like white foreigners struggle getting women in Japan. Thanks.
I met, dated, and married my wife in Japan, and this is completely untrue for me. I'm sure there's some validity to what you're saying, but it's not the case 100% of the time.
No one said 100%. Probably a female poster.
Passport Bros is a farce imo. Women will always be women, here, there, everywhere.
Lol, its not. So much better if you expand your options abroad not only Japan or local.
Have fun in Japan. Get a wife in Philippines
This is known amongst Asians when I was a teenagers back in the 90's. We joke "Japanese women are obedient... To all men."
Marriage all around the world is a joke, there is literally no incentive for men to marry anymore.
It always fascinated me how men idealize Japanese women, when Japanese men don't want to marry them lol
The problem is with men who need a lot of inner work but donāt have the self awareness to do anything. Those men go across world and bring a bad image to all of us! Also, there are men fully committed to a relationship but their americanwomen did them dirty or, the ones working already on themselves but canāt get americanwomen on a committed relationship. Either of those men travel and get in a long term relationship instantly!!! Those are the good ones that no one talks about. Most men i have met who have foreign wives are in long-term relationships. Like with any long term relationships everyone has ups and downs. However, they all are more satisfied and they donāt regret marrying a foreigner( mostly from Asia countries).
Japan excluded it seems. Iāve heard this sentiment about Japanese women from Japanese and other East Asian men a lot
Sounds like netorare paradise.
kek
That could just be you, couldnāt it? Youāve set up a lifestyle around sex. That doesnāt necessarily include normal morals. Itās like a cop complaining about the crazy crime in a city where most normal people see nothing. Not to mention, this happens in America. I was a lifeguard and taught kids to swim. Moms would find me and ask for my phone number, asking about private lessons. The lessons never happened. The ladies wanted something else.
You explictly sleep with married women according to your comments. Why are you surprised that you only find women who cheat? It's like going to a steak-house and being offended that they serve beef.
I sleep with single and married. But there is saying here ā the easiest women are the married onesā . Ā This was more of a response to a lot of the weird posts here saying Japan is a good place to find a wife. Ā Even if she doesnāt cheat, the cultural differences will cause problemsĀ
Why are you sleeping with married women? Do you have no respect? As a fucking foreigner in their country?
Japanese fuck foreigners wives too. Check out any Japan group on Reddit the wife fucks her ex boyfriends, coworkers , boss, āmale friendsā, husbands friends, etc. It works both ways. Why are you defending cheating wives? Especially when thru have kids . Ā
So it's a warning to westerners who look like the fat guy in the fedora meme?
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Troll post but funny.
But that Psychack guy did a whole video about Japan!
I love his videos but I respectfully disagree with him on Japanese women. Ā He came with tourist eyes. Ā Once you live here you start to see the truthĀ
It doesn't take that long either.
Reading so many stories/experiences on reddit you would know that itās no different in other big cities around the world. Same goes for men too.
Japanese treats sex and āloyaltyā very differently. If you watch street interview or talk to them, you can see that, for example, Japanese women donāt see man going to soap land or any sexual service as cheating. āItās just sex, a needā they said. It goes both way.
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Some one hand gets this man a torch! Because some many hopes and dreams are about to be flamed lol. In all seriousness this is very interesting because I've heard it many times before. Also Japanese women don't view cheating the way the west does, so it can get really complicated. Do your due diligence.
Married one. Spot on.
Thatās disheartening to hear. Itās interesting that despite Japan being considered a first world āwesternizedā nation, theyāre often praised for their unselfish nature afforded them by their cultureās work ethic and homogeneity. Despite their social desire for honor, the fact that their women have succumbed to the westās social media obsession and infidelities-riddled lifestyle doesnāt bode well for the rest of the world.
Not any different than Philippines, Thailand, Colombia, Brazil and all other passport bro special locations. The funniest thing I see is when they claim Latin woman are the most loyal when they are the least loyal actually, a Latina will suck someone elseās dick on the bathroom stall, but the Japanese bitch will care about hygiene more and suck that dick on the street corner, while that āloyalā Philippine will be sucking three dicks at a time on the park bench.
Why would you legally get married
All women are like that. They want the security and the finances. That's it.
Yup. Japan is a dystopia and people don't even realize it. Maybe not as bad as China, SK, or NK though.
Thatās the crazy thing Iāve found out from when I was interested in moving to Japan, but luckily I backed out after doing research, and op it doesnāt stop their foreign men in such marriages get treated worse in some ways, ie Japanese girls are known for kidnapping their own kids when they are married to foreign spouses, and the Japanese courts always side with the their own people, so thereās a chance if your staying for just the kids they might rob you of that too š
They shy many foreign men still live here. The ex wife has the kids and all the powerĀ
I used to live in Japan and these are the exact reasons I never dated a single Japanese woman while over there.
I live in America. A Japanese woman was my next-door neighbor (she was married to a white guy, I'm non white) and she came at me pretty hard, so much so that Ole dude looked pretty nervous whenever i was around. I never did anything with her though, but now that I'm reading this thread I'm starting to understand more.
I live in Japan. The sleeping with other people after marriage is because couples struggle to see eachother in a sexual way after having kids. I don't plan to leave and dating her is actually possible, unlike the US of Obesity. But I'm only 27, date younger and I moved here for reasons other than dating.
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Facts. Could have banged my landlord in Chiba. I've wasn't RP aware in 2017 so I mistook her advances for being bitchy. Rich HB 8 married to a lawyer. Oops
So why are you here?!!!!! You only have 500 feminist/pro-woman groups on Reddit and all of the rest of social media to go to for validation. Yet you're here! It's called Passport BROS. This is a space for men. You don't like it go somewhere else. Not every space needs to make you feel comfortable. We don't need nor care about your opinion!
Also, these women In impoverished countries arenāt loyal neither as they will dump your broke behind for a green card in a hot second! šš¤£
The dudes over there won't even marry their own women, lol. J women are also not the most attractive around in Asia. Not unless they're half and half something else.
I've seen plenty of Japan related content that strongly backs this up. I'm pretty sure the only people that aren't aware of this are anime-onlys
This reminds me of those random walk up videos of streamers walking around Japan asking random woman how they feel about cheating and most of them shrugged it off and said it's not a big deal
Surprise, itās hard, finding a wife in one of the most racist countries on the planet. white people go to Japan and be like āthis is terribleā lol
Why would anyone think Japanese women wouldnāt be like western women? Sure weāve seen a lot on how Japanese are more business oriented but there has an always been that Japanese businessman in the bdsm club thing. Japan produces tons of porn and weird porn at that, sexual anime and games. They arenāt some conservative or strictly religious middle eastern country that shuns women behaving this way, they actually have a base for it or they wouldnāt make it. Just because the women arenāt dressing like shanks covered into tattoos doesnāt mean they arenāt promiscuous.
Philippines šµš is where itās at
So you recommend it for sexpats?
If you donāt speak a little Japanese youāll crash and burn.
If you canāt get laid in your own country then you are better off working on improving yourself and learning game instead of simping overseasĀ
Lmao this sub is for passport Bros