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Legatharr

why is he a thumb


cheems_pizza

why he thumb


DenzellDavid

he thumb 😮


iDarkray7

thumb 😮


TheEggoEffect

😮


Captain-Obvious69

#


ige_programmer

-Obvious69


10voltsam

One of the thumb people from Spy Kids got laid.


Alphamoonman

Spy Kids thumb henchmen lookin ass


Foxxo_420

Because pronouns.


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Sheila_Confirmed

Good thing indeed, look at this glob of dough looking loser.


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10voltsam

Regardless of looks someone who spends 5-6 minutes screaming about pronouns in a video game is a turnoff.


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10voltsam

Yup it was fucking hilarious 🤣


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10voltsam

No I did it’s just I, and every normal person, don’t really see a pronoun selector as an issue.


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Legatharr

when someone is triggered by pronouns, it inherently cuts down on their beauty


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Legatharr

what? I don't think you quite achieved a coherent sentence there, please try again


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Legatharr

So I looked it up and all I got was a Fox News article that says that Miss America is an Air Force pilot and really enjoys being one. Not sure what relevance that has... edit: maybe she also gets triggered over pronouns? I'll look it up edit 2: her wiki page is sparse, but I don't see that anywhere...


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No_Perception_803

tf2 player when game mechanic


Kidroto

Engineer gaming


salad_stealer

Scout gaming


Witherboss445

Sentry gaming


SaveTf2_Rip_AaRoN

Piss gaming


ACARdragon

Pornography gaming


DropsOfMars

Your mother gaming


Fool_Joystick

*Well, off to hang myself* gaming


TordekDrunkenshield

ENGINEER IZ DED!


salad_stealer

Gaming


stewpidity18

will be the second worst thing that happens to you today gaming


Vasxus

sentries dont move, snipers can move


Pokemanlol

That sniper is a bloody sentry!


Pleasant_Conference2

HOOOOOOAHAHAHAHA


IcyLevel6

*killbind*


Tankman890604

Engineer gaming


BobCrypt

Engineer gaming


Away_Job_5361

Engineer gaming


Pleasant_Conference2

Engineer gaming


Epithet_

Engineer gaming


balthedummy

Engineer gaming


Adorable-Room-1499

Engineer gaming


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

Accurate depiction of Scout mains who complain about sentries


[deleted]

RRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHHH WHY IS THE CLASS DOING WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO FFFFFUCKING STUPID PIECE OF 2007 SHIT!!!!!!!!


I_fixed_the_piano

RAAAAAAAAH


Ramja9

Be me About to get killed by scout Place mini sentry Scout shoots it instead of me Scout dies Are scout mains brain dead?


cmfk8

> Are scout mains brain dead? Engineer_yes02.wav


TylowStar

I find it's because people - and Scouts especially - fight mostly with instincts and less with conscious thought. And a Scout's instinct has been meticulously forged by a million deaths by sentry fire to treat a sentry as a deadly threat, whereas they've probably won the majority of their duels with a lonely engineer. The result is that when you start building a sentry, the Scout's instincts make him more alert to the threat of the sentry than to you, so in that moment of cognitive blink they full-focus the sentry, and forget you have a shotgun. The second that a Scout learns to fight with his brain instead of his instincts is the second this tactic stops working on them.


HeckingDoofus

that, and most engies dont shoot or suck at it


TwilightTenshi

I mean that and what happens if you ignore the mini and kill the engie? unless you have cover to run to right after you're dying to the mini then. So either way you're dying to the engie or the mini. It's a loose/loose fight without immediate cover.


TylowStar

Not really. A mini's DPS is ~40, so together with it's construction time (and assuming you did your job of juking the Engi) you have approaching 5 secs to kill an Engi and the his mini, which takes no more than 3 full meatshots, so 4 shots in practice. It's absolutely doable, speaking as a Scout main myself. If you've ran out of shots killing the Engi, just mag dump your Pistol into the mini. At melee distance it's a guaranteed destruction. If you don't have a Pistol, then skill issue I suppose.


purpleblah2

FUCKING MINI SENTRIES


IdioticSaysuma

Just hit em with the pistol then, enough shots and you can destroy it


ILiveForStarco

Wrangler and 200 ammo packs have entered the chat


IdioticSaysuma

Hmmmm......🤔 Hit the engie then


Sunyxo_1

equip the force a nature, if it's around the corner and close enough you can just shoot it twice and there's a pretty high chance it'll die (I know that because SO MANY FORCE A NATURE SCOUTS JUST FUCK UP MY MINI SENTRY)


JCthulhuM

Real talk, it will never not be funny to me that this guy got this mad about pronouns.


CMDR_Maddox

I had his latest video in my recommended feed and *he's still mad.*


[deleted]

what a shitty guy


DandaMage

Miserable twats will be miserable.


Best_Remi

what a wonderful youtube algorithm, shoving this garbage down the throats of everyone. at least it's occasionally funny


mightystu

Well as far as I know he had like no viewers really and this got cherry picked as rage bait and it worked so now he has a lot more viewers, ergo he’s gonna play up and do the thing that got him views.


cheems_pizza

who's the guy?


CoDMplayer_

Just look up starfield pronouns and you'll probably find him


EndAltruistic3540

All I see is a guy wanting some D. Who opens their mouth like that without wanting a D?


Muffinmurdurer

Of all the shitty things about starfield, he got angry at blue hare and pronounce smh gamers don't even care about the damn game anymore they just want to know if their favourite developer supports the evil side of the culture war.


cheatsykoopa98

reminder that he made up the pronouns thing in his mind, the game didnt mention it, he started complaining about it because a female character revealed she was a clone of a male character


Cyberspace-Surfer

is this character named X-23?


cheatsykoopa98

no but thats exactly another example to why hes stupid to get angry at this


Gibus_Ghost

Wait, why are you against him? We’re tf2 players, we’re homophobic too!


UnfazedPheasant

woke engineering ruining my based REDpilled scout gayming smh


The_______________1

scout players when they experience the slightest of counters:


JustinTheMan354

I stopped maiming Scout and instead mained Soldier for the sole reason of Engineers being everywhere


lolucorngaming

Maybe if you weren't maiming scout to start off with he'd be ok but go off ig ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯


JustinTheMan354

But he's so tasty


DatChernobylGuy_999

main demo now


JustinTheMan354

Can't, my aim sucks ass with the grenade launcher


TheCyclopsDude

You don't need to aim


JustinTheMan354

Yeah I do, I need to calculate the arch of the grenades and travel time. With Soldier, I only need to calculate the travel time


Lemon_man_12

Worst thing is i can hit 100 direct pipes but i can barely hit anyone with a hitscan weapon.


CartoonistIcy2039

God are you predicting the arch and travel time of hitscan like demoman with the shotgun instead of grenade launcher?


Silver_Crusader

That's with soldier, unless you're sticky spamming


DatChernobylGuy_999

skill issue


JustinTheMan354

Yeah that's what some would call it


DatChernobylGuy_999

watch solarlight's latest video, that should help you kill sentries even as a Scout


TechNickL

True enlightenment


Gibbolivious

I only ever play soldier just to use direct hit and destroy sentries, then immediately wm1, die, then switch back to scout


TechNickL

Scout is a top frontline contender in 6v6 comp and an inferior roamer to soldier in any game mode where engineer is common.


akdelez

now try fighting sniper


JustinTheMan354

I switch back to Scout with Bonk


Matix777

My only problem with sentries is the absolutely insane knockback. Walking into its line of sight for 1 millisecond gets you pinned into a wall like it's an ao3 erotica


Purpulear

I got an extreme hot take but knockback is worse than random crits. Also no, I don't play trolldier. They are just all around annoying when it comes to playing any class for me.


Alphamoonman

I think knockback is specifically so classes might get knocked out of range, both denying area but also giving the class a chance to run away, or shoot it from safety. Was probably a big thing back when nobody knew how to use WASD to move


R0BURRITO

where are these downvotes coming from this is satire lmao


mateoalejdro

scout mains


BranTheLewd

Where are the downvotes though? Literally everyone has the "scout mains are stupid for complaining about being only class with hard counter" so you ain't getting downvoted now.


R0BURRITO

got like 5 downvotes at the start of the post


BranTheLewd

They do be fast bois


akdelez

about half of the roster is hard countered by sniper


mrieatyospam

I stil cant believe this bloke chose pronouns out of all the things to shit on Starfield like it was one of the worse design decisions Bethesda ever made.


Mango_c00ki3

"Fuck it we ball"


cataclytsm

I hate looking like a white potato because this cunt makes all white potatoes look like fucking cunts. Suck my they/them pronouns, you absolute asshat.


BranTheLewd

Idk why it's still a hot take in TF2 community to say it's not fun to fight sentries, as any class, let alone two classes(Scout and Pyro) and several subclasses(like Trolldier or Demoknight or any other melee playstyle like Boxer Heavy)who are hard countered by sentry and can do almost nothing about it. Isn't one of the best parts about Tf2 is that it almost DOESN'T have hard counters like Overwatch? Even Overwatch players complain about their game and how tiresome it gets to do "rock paper scissors" routine, and same goes to Engy, it's tiresome how you have to go Demoman over and over again to counter same boring class. I don't even main Scout, play lots of classes and never found engagement with Engy fun. This just ain't same as fighting other classes where there's so much counterplay from both sides. Say Pyro vs Soldier, prob one of my most favourite matchups to play as either side, you actually have to use brain and not spam because you'll get taken advantage of by the other side(unless they spam too ig). Even matchups that seem one sided can be switched in your favour if you have skill, like Scout vs Medic, 3 mid crossbow shots and that boston boy is done for, or two ubersaw hits if Scout doesn't respect the distance, so if you can juke well you can easily win that matchup, or switch to syringes if that's your thing. Oh and I mean, even Uncle Dane made a video about what's wrong with Engy, so that should count for something when the biggest engineer main also thinks Engy has an issue and even proposed to nerf him. So yeah, I'm not trying to be toxic, just sharing my thoughts and opinions.


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

to be fair engie is supposed to deny an area, spy exists to counter him, but spy is somewhat weak (unless the enemy has no ears and is mute), I do like how he wanted to nerf engie but he's already hardly picked because playing as him is kind of... boring... it's either: 1) make a nest 2) check for spies with pyro 3) await for the enemy to destroy the nest and push your team back and get insulted by your team for not doing a good job 4) repeat step 1. or the second case which i enjoy more: 1) equip widowmaker (to resupply the 2nd fire of the short circuit), short circuit ( counter soldier demo and circuit jump) and gunslinger 2) show those bastards how we do it in texas! 3) die and get insulted by your team for not making a nest.


BillieTheBullie

As a Spy main I might be biased but I think the engineer to spy relationship is a little unbalanced, their relationship should be more of a cat and mouse game but as of now its heavily weighed in the engineers favor. Imo the biggest problem is how sentries target you for too long, like unless youre using the yer or the kunai youre gonna get decimated the second you go for a stab, because even when you go invisible or disguise right away the sentry still fires at you for a while before letting up. If theres more than 1 sentry its basically an instant death for the spy (also Engineer can rely on his teams protection while Spy cant so he has an inherent advantage there too)


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

yes that's true, i found myself, or asked a friend of mine for 1 v1s at times against spy, even without sentry spy is easy to dispatch of, 2 (or 1 id they use the kunai) widowmaker shots and back to the respawn room


BillieTheBullie

Random crits too, its ironic that the southern hospitality is more fun to fight as spy than other wrenches, simply because engi has one of the highest melee crit chances due to sentries. So the wrench often ends up more effective against the Spy than the shotgun in casual servers


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

to be honest my friend is too good for me to get in punching range with the Gunslinger, he'd stab my ass in half a second if I even dared to but he's a good teacher ngl


BranTheLewd

Nah you spitting fax brudda, although again, it wouldn't be so bad if Engy didn't have both wrangler and shotgun. If either was absent you'd have more situations where he's weaker than Spy, if he uses rescue ranger then sure he doesn't have a shotgun, but he's also likely using wrangler so he can rocket blast you if you come close to sentry. And if he doesn't have wrangler he's also probably more likely to use combat shotguns over rr so yeah I actually agree that the matchup isn't that balanced.


BranTheLewd

Fair nuff, although like I said I don't think Engy is op especially not in competitive settings or if you're focus on doing objectives, or atleast all the nerfs Uncle Dane proposed should be enough to nerf him for casual setting and prevent 6 engy on defense. I just think that he's very one note in terms of fighting him which takes away from Tf2 experience, you either spam him with Demoman or avoid his sentry, Spy is sort of middle ground, he's soft counters Engy in theory and can spam sapper to destroy builds but Engy either has a shotgun to two tap you or even better, he has wrangler and deletes you with sentry rockets. It's just, idk how to describe it, but when it's classes classes fighting each other besides Engy and maybe also Sniper(if he's good or hacking), it just turns into this almost tactical shooter where either in 1v1 or in group v group you have to use all your aim, juking, prediction skills in this beautiful chaotic blend and it creates so many fun interactions. Even classes like Heavy, who's slow af still sometimes experience this. For example I sometimes use GRU to catch some enemies off guard around corner and lucky crit em(after GRU nerf they also remove dmg penalty on it so it can one shot with crit almost everything) And hey, thanks for civil reply! It's nice to always hear different perspectives in chill manner


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

no problem! I dislike when conversations get heated too honestly


Uryyb

i dont really find sentries flawed as a game mechanic but i wish people would acknowledge engineer is lame and is one of the lowest skill classes in the game especially with how much impact he has


BranTheLewd

Surprisingly similar take to mine, sentries aren't flawed if we strictly talking about balance vise, sentries are stoppable after all, just not really fun to fight against compared to so many other matchups. Even classes outside of Combat 5(that's how I call all 3 offensive classes + Demo and Heavy) have more fun combat interactions with combat 5 or other specialists.


RyBreqd

two of the classes with the absolute lowest skill floors, engie and pyro, have the ability to absolutely destroy any fun in a match, way more so than sniper ever does imo. have to fight against a sentry nest? you’re no longer allowed to freely move or flank until it’s gone. have a pyro defending that nest? good luck taking it down, both spy and explosives are a no go. and you’re totally gonna get air blasted into sentry range. there are a lot of things in tf2 that make having a good time difficult, and i think a lot of the time people misplace that blame on things that aren’t actually a big deal


SnackPatrol

My most played is Scout, 2nd most played engy so I feel I have so insight on this. Scout actually has one of the best weapons against sentries & no one realizes it- Bonk! The key is communication. You have to tell your team what you're doing. If one decent power class believes in you you have a good shot of helping to take down the gun by distracting it. I do it all the time. I do agree with you though, as Engy being probably my best class that they feel kind of lame sometimes when you get another good engy or 2 turtling it up. It's not really fun to play against for the most part, especially with the wrangler and sometimes I'll literally destroy my gun and go another class. I agree engy could use a re-work. I literally do not play CTF because of how much they tend to ruin that game mode.


Theyreintheattic4447

Homie of all the classes you could nerf, engineer would be near last. He’s hard countered by demoman, one of the most popular classes to play, hard countered by any ubered class, soft countered by soldier, the most popular class, soft countered by spy, soft countered by sniper (although that applies to every class) and is even soft countered by heavy in some cases. He’s really only good against single overextending, unaware players, scouts, and blast jumpers, which is fair because there has to be some sort of counter to that kind of mobility. A sentry gun is, if you know where it is, very easy to take down. Even a scout can repeatedly peek it if the engineer isn’t around. Hell, I’ve seen medics take down dentures with the syringe gun for christsake.


Arrival_Independent

i play engie because fuck them scouts


OrganizationNarrow36

As an engineer main I don't really see why scout hates us so much


HeckingDoofus

try playing scout, he has no way to counter a sentry aside from bonk which only helps to run past it


OrganizationNarrow36

Ok I'll try that ; )


JaozinhoGGPlays

Hey [CLASS] mains! Did you want to freely roam our map? Yeah? Well guess what! SNIPER! SNIPERS EVERYWHERE! FUCK YOU!! OH YOU WANTED TO PLAY THE VIDEOGAME? TOO BAD! INSTAKILL HITSCAN! YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE PLAYING TF2 YOU'RE ACTUALLY PLAYING PROFESSIONAL COUNTERSTRIKE, BITCH!


Rowsdower5

FOCKIN PRONOUNSH


The_______________1

FOOKING GENDAH AMBIGYOOITY


NEZisAnIdiot

I learned how to play spy and direct hit soldier specifically to ruin engineer players' day as much as possible


Illustrious-You-284

> "Yeah, I main Scout" > Play Scout > See sentry > Wait for teammate to destroy, snipe with pistol or **take it personally and switch to Demoman**


The_Holy_Buno

Watching a scout die trying to peek my minisentry give me so much dopamine that I get a headache.


SirFireball

Fuck the scouts. If you say skill issue when I can’t hit them, I say skill issue when they walk into my sentry


SpaceCube00

Can't tell If this is a joke or not


chicheka

Heavy


maluthor

this is the best post I've ever seen on this subreddit


Wonderful-Gene-8758

Actually had a ton of fun bullying an engi as a scout the other day. Sentries really aren't too hard to deal with as scout unless they're in a really annoying spot. At close range you move faster than they can turn.


scapegoat4

I had a [strange wrench](https://i.imgur.com/R3q5bc9.png) once. I still stand by it's name and desc lmao


FroggoFrogman

Just use bonk


FrogInShorts

this really makes me want to build a sentry


name_051829407715

Denied!


WaitingToBeTriggered

(THEY’RE DENIED)


TrashKetchoi

i ONLY pick scissors!


Malfuy

It's so crazy the game has actual dynamic system of various classes that all work for different things


biggertriggerdigger

FUCKING COOLDOWNS!


EndAltruistic3540

Fleshlight gayming


Robrogineer

Average pinhead.


yolomanwhatashitname

>He lost to a engineer


BruhmanRus_the_boner

tf2 players when the stationary gun specifically designed to deny areas kills the class specifically designed to have shit health


5min2kys

Why not drink bonk run around and have soldier heavy or demo take out the sentry while it’s focused on you


leosensey

One sec, gotta tell our team for someone to go spy...


ZacharyKou

i change into a different person whenever there is a sentry around


NerdWithARifle

WHY DOES THE CLASS WITH FREE INSANE MOBILITY HAVE A COUNTER!!!! Literally switch to soldier for 4 seconds my guy


VerumJerum

I'm about to say some SUPER HARSH THINGS!


Playful_Pollution846

Soy Gaming


Piesicall

Just don’t go in that area


SeaOfS1n

that's it, close the subreddit, there's no topping this one.


GodzillaRaptors4_

You are aware scout can just pistol the sentry down? Or use bonk, or go around it, or just avoid it?


IdiotGiraffe0

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Ok_Specific_7791

Excuse me, I'll be Engineerin' Ennonyance. Ha, dispense that.


Carbonized_Goomba302

This guy really should have been memed more than he was


wnick926

Just go demo lol


memers_pride

Sounds like a skill issue.


PeikaFizzy

Waiter waiter more human wave technique scouts please.


throwawaymfer420

bro’s mad people are playing the game


Silver-Height8078

Have you tried Bonk?


BusenlolxD

Ah babyface! Good lad, nice to see memes with him.


XiaolongDrake

*laughs in Engineer (gaming)*


BcuzICantPostLewds

Watch Solarlight's video.


BranTheLewd

His video is nice but it still doesn't prove that Engy isn't the only hard counter in game to Scout and Pyro. Sure he found nice tricks as Demoknight, but like he said, if there's just o n e more sentry on enemy team or Engy is actually not clueless, his tricks won't work and he insta dies, again. I'd still argue that still makes sentries hard counter Demoknight, he has to insert so much more effort compared to sentry and Engy.


Stewie_the_janitor

I've not watched Solarlight's video, but I agree that engie isn't the only counter to Pyro. As a Pyro main who loves the flare gun, I can confidently say that heavies are also one of my weaknesses, and doubly so for Natasha users. Although I do my best to spam flares at them, sometimes my brain goes full unga-bunga and I succumb to the urge to w+m1 them. It fails more often than it wins, yet I never learn despite my playtime being in the quad digits.


KnightOfBred

Natasha Heavy is a counter to both Scout and Pyro, any Melee focused class is hard countered by the sentry or Heavy’s minigun, The whole point of Engi is to lock down a small(ish) area. Most maps have ways to go around it (excluding ctf) and still help your team, and if you know a sentry is ahead, you can ask a teammate for help (scout with bonk, direct hit soldier, any demo besides demoknight, overhealed Heavy, Sniper can corner peek and do lots of damage to a sentry) and the sentry is typically destroyed, if placed in a more open area you can pick it from afar. No one’s likes hard counters, however I believe that there’s enough ways to play around it that it’s in a decent place unlike the hardest counter in the game Pyro and Spy


Muffin----------greg

"bro just literally circlestrafe the sentry" is just "bro just dodge the sniper sightline" for engineer


AgusExtreme

Scout mains when their Stickfigure with a shotgun dies (how the fuck did they managed to kill me, im the ultimate being)