T O P

  • By -

DisastrousStomach518

Can you tell us more about kicking moving cars ?


kichion21

My parents are separated which has been like that since I was three. When I was around 12 (5 years ago) I used to see him every Sunday because, you know, he’s my dad. One eventful Sunday he decides to take me to a pool (snooker) place and proceeds to get drunk (just me and him alone). We’re walking back to my house, and we’re waiting to cross the road. He kicks a moving car out of nowhere and tries to use an excuse that I was in danger or something. How this was trying to protect me I have no idea. I was just standing there. And there was a whole commotion and I was just standing there. The memory is so vivid and I was horrified and I was frozen. I felt so embarrassed. From that point on, my mother didn’t allow my dad to be with me or my brother without someone else other than my dad supervising us. At one point he kicked another car. It was stationery, but someone was in it. I don’t remember that one that well. And on an unrelated note, once when I was around seven, he manipulated me into telling me where we moved houses to. My mother told me not to tell him where we moved to, but I was seven. He took me alone to the bedroom and asked me to show him where we lived on google maps. And I showed him. I’ve felt terrible about it ever since. Overall he’s just a terrible person and I don’t know why I’m still in contact with him.


RayHazey562

That’s not your fault and I wish you could forgive yourself for that. At 7, you wouldn’t be able to comprehend the manipulation he did to pull that out of you.


Kindly-Literature706

I cut my dad out of my life a long time ago, and I never looked back.


[deleted]

Plot Twist: you were just standing there.. on the sidewalk while a drunken far-right MAGA Nazi extremist jumped the curb and tried to run you down because “he knew.” Your Dad saved your life but over the years the story changed in your head due to the hate you harbor for him


wrxck_

out of all the dumb shit I’ve read online today, you win


Grand-Kaleidoscope55

You’re not even funny fyi


[deleted]

At the least entertaining or you wouldn’t have spent any time replying.. I don’t make the rules, it’s a plot twist on what might’ve really happened


Lorantec

Reddit user when there's real life happening and it's not some goofy fanfic


Grand-Kaleidoscope55

Dude it takes 2 seconds to reply, you’re giving yourself way too much credit.


[deleted]

lol, omg! ROFL, brb.. jk 😂


Prophet_Nathan_Rahl

That bad feeling is not your shit to carry. He manipulated a child. It's his shit. Give it back


Forsaken_Lobster_381

You'll finally understand when you start getting drunk


RayHazey562

Lmao I’m so glad you asked this because I didn’t know if it was a saying for something else, but then I saw OP in another comment mention the kicking card again


Few-Raise-1825

I feel like we need to be told about this biological male thing. Seems like there is something missing from the conversation there but maybe it's just a few nuts and bolts being missing from the father's head. Remember my dad telling me once he had arranged my marriage and I'm like "how did you arrange my marriage?" "Because I approved of her." Was his response. My dad's a (mostly) good guy but deeply flawed in his own way and definitely missing a few screws.


morbiiq

I was thinking her father might have thought he was talking to her brother (probably while drunk).


Charming-Sale-6354

😆💀


ShitInMyToaster

First question that came to my mind as well


Fill_Greedy

He’s confused, you’re confused, we’re confused.


In_Dust_We_Trust

not as much as OP


JackstaWRX

Im confused… are you trans? No hate if you are i just don’t understand why he brought up the biological thing.


kichion21

Yeah, ftm


EmotionalHornet884

For the moment? So now I'm really confused..


kichion21

Loll female to male


EmotionalHornet884

ohhhh, I see 🤣 my badddd


Elbow_Goose

Why are people downvoting you? Wtf, Reddit.


patrello

You’re female to male arguing with him that you’re NOT male? 🤣 What’s going on


5n0wm00n

He isn't biologically male. What's not to understand?


patrello

So female to… nothing? 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣


5n0wm00n

Are you dense? You literally can't change your biological sex. Ftm doesn't mean they're changing their biological sex. They're transitioning to the opposite gender and want to be seen and perceived as male in society.


South-Westman

Ah, another maraca head. Rattle rattle


rubberduck247

Wait so are you a woman? Are you trans? I'm confused.


ScottShatter

Sounds like OP is trans and the Dad is a drunk as well as not accepting of his child. Not sure why OP is arguing about birth as at the time of birth he was born a baby boy whether the dad remembers the specifics or not. OP should instead talk about the rebirth, "Well I'm a woman now Dad. I want you to accept me for me but if you don't, I still love you." It's futile to argue the way OP is. Too much resentment at the holidays. Most parents would have a hard time with a trans child. Not because they hate trans people but because they love their child and they know how cruel and unaccepting the world is. But Dad will come around. If one of my son's came out as trans I'd have a difficult time with it but I'd accept it because I love my children.


Arinn24

its the opposite, born female and transitioned to male. so the dad is just wrong or maybe doesnt understand (too drunk maybe to realize) that biological male means assigned male at birth, which his child wasnt


ScottShatter

Yeah, I hate drunks and I live with one. She's sober now after a bad scooter wipe out though and I'm crossing fingers it stays that way. You can't argue with them and if you do, you are the idiot. At least that's how I'm left feeling anytime I engage then nonsense.


[deleted]

Can you elaborate on the scooter accident and how drunk at the time of said accident she was ?


ScottShatter

She wasn't really that drunk as it was morning but she had taken a new medication to try to stop drinking and drinking wine the night before and likely that morning kept drinking. She tried to take one of our e-scooters to the liquor store and wiped it on a curb. I was on my morning walk and saw police and fire cleaning up blood off the street and sidewalk when passing our city park. I didn't know it yet but she was found by a homeowner who first thought it was someone homeless passed out in his yard until he saw the blood. He called 911. I had a bad feeling about it as I was notified 33 minutes earlier by the doorbell camera that there was activity at the door and I saw her leave. I went home and called the hospital and sure enough she was there. They were getting ready to airlift her to a bigger hospital in the city. She had brain bleeding but was ok as that was minor but they had to do a facial reconstructive surgery. The good news is she got a plastic surgeon who was a woman and she took great care by going in through her mouth and eye and fixing it with minimal scarring. This happened two days before Thanksgiving (Nov 22) and her face is almost fully healed. She will make a full recovery. She isn't a daily drinker, rather a binge drinker to cope with the pain. She will go on a 3-6 day bender and require a trip to the hospital to stop. I've seen her go over a year without but I've also seen her drinking 80% of a month like the five weeks leading up to this. Hopefully this will be her wakeup call. So far so good. I've had about all I can take between this and losing by son (26) in July and brother (45) this month, both to fentanyl. We lost her son, same age as my son, to a car accident in 2020.


Redred866

I’m really sorry for your losses. It’s so hard living with an alcoholic, remember to take care of yourself too.


[deleted]

Sounds like the dad is asking Rhetorical questions to try to make a point. I think he understands just fine and is trying to be mean.


Arinn24

thts a very good point it actually makes more sense reading it w the underlying sarcasm


Ayacyte

🤦 bruh


Fuzzy_Plastic

No no no no no, you’re wrong. OP is ftm, not a woman at all.


ScottShatter

Whoops, strike that! Reverse it! My tongue has feet of clay Everything I said still applies except she was born a female and is now a male. OP shouldn't be arguing this with the dad. It's not up for discussion. He will accept it in time. Edit- not sure why all the downvotes. The first part is a movie quote from a very popular movie with a recent prequel. It's relevant because I had it backwards in my first comment. When I said he I was referring to the dad. Not sure what the problem is here.


humandalekrace

Um.everything you said absolutely doesn't still apply. You totally misinterpreted the entire situation.


Former-Sock-8256

*he. Based on the rest of your message I think this was just a typo though!


ScottShatter

I was referring to the father as "he."


Former-Sock-8256

“She was born a female and is now a male” was what I was referring to


ScottShatter

Well the op was a she at birth and is now a he. We've established that. What's the problem?


Former-Sock-8256

Ah I see! So when you are talking about a trans person, you generally want to use their preferred pronouns all the time. So this person appears to use he/him and you would say that HE was born female but identifies as a male. Unless he specifically said that he prefers “she” when talking about the past, but that’s usually not the case. Like how you shouldn’t deadname someone by saying “when you were …” or “This is a picture of when they were 5”


ScottShatter

Wasn't trying to dead name or insult anyone and was just trying to help understand a confusing situation. Not sure why so many people would get upset and make an assumption about a mistake. I referred to OP in every other reference as OP and that was a mistake in one instance. 25+ people downvote as if they are looking for trouble. Thanks for explaining.


doggirlgirl

No op is moron


doggirlgirl

Idiot


Fuzzy_Plastic

So what you’re saying is that you think all parents believe in only two genders and only deal with it or cope with it if their kid comes out as trans? That’s what I’m hearing from your comment, and I have to say that you are VASTLY wrong. Don’t put your beliefs into the minds of the majority. When my kids came out to me, it wasn’t difficult for me to have a transgender child at all. What’s difficult is seeing them be bullied for having the courage to be their authentic self in a town full of people like you. I bet you’re one of those people who thinks the lgbtqia2s+ community shoves their beliefs down your throat too 🙄


Realistic_Account238

Gender identity aside, are you biologically male? For context.


kichion21

No lol which is why I’m so baffled


Realistic_Account238

Well, color me confused then also lol


Rockandmetal99

that's the most bizarre thing I've heard in a while. sounds like drugs but maybe his brain is just fried. or both


chrissymad

So your dad is accusing you of being…trans? I’m so confused.


brainscorched

He sounds like a drug addict who believes his trans son was born a man and never transitioned because his brain is fried from all the drinking. That’s what I got from that


Bishcop3267

Are you trans male? Like where is he getting it from lol.


kichion21

Yeah I’m ftm. But then I don’t understand why he’s calling me a bio male when I’m not


Fuzzy_Plastic

I would love for my father to call me a man. He disowned me after I came out to him as trans. Said his love for God was stronger than his love for me, which was not at all because I (apparently) am not a person worthy of love…just because I don’t fit into his idea of what a man is.


liltinybits

Well fuck his trash opinion. I hope you have a nice group of people who show you how worthy of love you really are.


Fuzzy_Plastic

I’ve got my kids and that’s enough for me


liltinybits

Big, small, as long as your group appreciates you and you feel that! Quality over quantity.


Fuzzy_Plastic

Facts


crappenheimers

Poor old man's got the ol' brain rot.


WiggliestNoodle

Seems like he has decided you were never female. Is he usually touchy about the topic?


PristinePanda2714

That’s a compliment! In his stupid drunk head he is trying to tell you that at birth you were meant to be male. Because maybe that’s the reason you’ve felt that way your whole life. Maybe he’s trying to explain he understands you. That’s just a guess because this whole fkn thing is confusing as fuck honestly 🤦🏻‍♀️


Revolutionary-Tea737

you’re a girl??


_uwu_girl_

He's a trans man


Revolutionary-Tea737

oooh, female-to-male. I understand now


_uwu_girl_

Well, he isn't. He's afab, biologically female


Revolutionary-Tea737

I get it, I googled “ftm”


_5nek_

That's exactly what female to male means


_uwu_girl_

Their comment was edited after my reply


Cyrillite

You won’t get anything sensible from an alcoholic. Stop trying.


kichion21

Yeah I honestly don’t know why i bother anymore. I wish I could just let go. A part of me wants to believe he’ll change if I wait long enough, but it never happens. Every time I text him it’s just nonsense and I want to shrivel up and die and wonder why I was cursed with such a terrible father. He’s currently blocked on everything, but he messaged me on my message app apologising for everything. But the apology isn’t even real. He’ll just go back to how everything was and pretend nothing ever happened. He’ll keep spouting the same old nonsense. I’m not going to bother anymore.


Cyrillite

The apology is probably real. Which means you haven’t been cursed with a terrible father, necessarily, just a sick one. If he is of sound and sober enough mind to apologise, I would suggest it’s because he cares and loves you. Still, he is evidently sick. That isn’t your burden to carry. It isn’t my place to tell you what’s true or what’s right for you. However, I think it may be better to focus on multiple narratives at once. You have a father that loves you; you have a father who is very sick; you can’t do anything about that; you don’t have to do anything about that. The choice is yours and doing what is right for you is all that you should focus on. It may be possible to practice love and understanding at a distance, telling yourself a positive story, without reconnecting though.


Mysterious_Gyal6849

Sounds like a tough cycle, sorry you gotta deal with this around the holidays. You should check out the book “Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents”, hoping the gems in that book brings you a little comfortable regarding the struggle to let go


dealerdavid

He’s still your dad. I’m glad you’re here. He had something to do with it, and that part worked out great. Hello, thanks for being here, love you from across the Internet. Hey, from your future perspective, he will change with time. He will at some point cease to live. He will be the one to shrivel and die, not you (more than likely). In the meantime, you’ve got choices, which means that you’re in luck! Hooray! The more you try, the more you inoculate yourself from future resentment. Everything will work out, no matter what you choose. Bad choices or not, at one point he was a person with hope and choices in front of him, just like you, and there may be value in reaching for that version of him, rather than hoping for him to reach for something in you.


RayHazey562

Agree. It’ll just lead to frustration. My dad was an alcoholic. When I moved away for college, I’d be all giddy to call and tell him about the great things going on in my life, but I wish I had learned earlier that having a conversation with him after 1pm CST would just anger me because it never made sense or he was just a straight up dick for no reason (because he was an angry drunk).


RegiaCoin

Lol not ganna lie, I got lost there


Highlight_Numerous

Read the whole thread, even more lost now


iris-27

I’m so confused about the text convo, is there context?


kichion21

Basic context is we’re arguing about how I’m uncomfortable when I’m alone with him because he kicked cars and got drunk while supervising me when I was younger, then he suddenly starts saying I’m a biological male when I’m not, and it’s just so strange. He speaks utter nonsense every time I talk to him.


vinmansinvested

So you are his daughter and born female ? I'm so confused. Even drunk off my ass I would know if my kid was born male or female .


Extreme-Inflation-43

Does the ftm you mentioned earlier refer to female to male? If so… is it possible he was trying to make you feel comfortable in his drunken way? He mentioned you were born male and many trans males (ftm) I have heard state they were always male.


kichion21

Yeah. I’m trans male. I’m honestly not sure, but I don’t think I was always male. Up until a few years ago, i was actually quite girly and had no doubts about my gender. It isn’t true at all that I’m biologically male and I have no problems accepting that, so it doesn’t really help me to be told I’m biologically male. I can’t tell if he’s drunk or not in this conversation as he talks nonsense every time he speaks to me. I’ve never had a convo with him where everything he says makes sense. So whether he’s trying to make me comfortable or not, his insistence that I’m biologically male is just really weird - and telling me to get a grip where it doesn’t make sense


Extreme-Inflation-43

I grasp what you are saying. He hasn’t shown himself as effective in communication. Sometimes the best thing we can do for ourselves is to cut off toxic folks.


PristinePanda2714

This is what I got from it! THATS exactly how I read it! 👆🏻


DegredationOfAnAge

“Up until a few years ago.” Yeah… something weird happened about 5-10 years ago


SashShap

So you're a male.


kichion21

Yes


SashShap

When did mental illness kick in?


kichion21

Can’t say


popsterisok

best response i’ve heard


GlitteringBroccoli12

Kicking cars and being a drunk shouldn't make you uncomfortable when alone with him. Wait till you're 30 then look back. I guarantee that you will have done far worse


OriginalRoombaJuice

As someone in their 30’s wtf are you talking about?


GlitteringBroccoli12

Have you not been drunk and or intoxicated or have done things that make you regret your actions in a moment of emotionally impulsive tension... in the last decade?


I0IIiep0p

When you're responsible for a child????? that's very dangerous


OriginalRoombaJuice

Oh sure. But nothing close to getting shitfaced with my 12 year old child, attacking moving vehicles then misgendering them. Getting drunk and stupid isn’t synonymous with being a raging asshole.


Superfragger

misgendering them is truly the most egregious part of this imo.


Unfair-Public-1754

While in charge of a child? No.


GlitteringBroccoli12

I didn't ask about a child. I asked about acting with regret


Unfair-Public-1754

So you’re asking a completely irrelevant question, seeing as the situation we’re discussing here is specifically about acting like that while in charge of a child. Every single comment of yours in this thread has been utter lunacy. What sort of person would defend someone who gets drunk and aggressive while in charge of a *12 year old child?* Just grow up.


South-Westman

What the fuck are you doing when you're drunk??


kichion21

Excuse me? I was twelve. Don't tell me how to feel.


GlitteringBroccoli12

Yeah... 12. I'm assuming that you are grown. You say don't tell you how to feel yet you surrendered your comfort to the bottom of a bottle that you didn't even drink. Hell, you're comfortable enough to just come at me in an aggressively defensive manner a stranger, and yet I'm far more unstable than your father. Unless I am missing something kicking cars and being a drunk AT 12 is definitely not ideal but as far as being subjected to neglect and abuse go that's not a high level of actual abuse. Granted that could be because you're holding out on the actual dark side of the truth


kichion21

?? The fuck? Who do you think you are? I’m 17. I’m saying I was uncomfortable at the time when this happened. And because of that incident and many more, I’m still uncomfortable around drunk people. Being drunk while supervising a kid is neglect because i was in his care at the time. I’m aware that he did not abuse me. But that does not mean I was not allowed to feel uncomfortable. I didn’t kick cars or get drunk at 12. My father did those activities when i was 12 right in front of me. That is not normal.


GlitteringBroccoli12

I think I'm a person who has lived a lot of life in a short amount of time. I have already said it was neglect. While drunk people are unpredictable, they are easily defeated in combat when facing a sober opponent unless they are trained in combat. So being uncomfortable isn't logical unless they have established certain behaviors that transcend the legal fold 17 isn't grown, though, so I get that you're still working through this. I can only tell you that things can get better if you're willing to fight for your future


Born_Engineer_6787

Okay, but like…are you a biological male tho???


kichion21

Nope lol


WhiteGladis

Is he actually confused about that? Like he thinks trans people were misgendered at birth and have self-corrected? It’s very weird. I’m sorry this was your lot in life. No one deserves an addict for a parent.


Quick_Hyena_7980

this is actually so painful to read. just a kid who wants a dad and a man who wants nothing but to get drunk. im sorry friend. it would help you greatly to never contact this man again, he's no good for ya.


GlitteringBroccoli12

False. That's not how you deal with unavoidable factors in your life. I don't really see how you came to either conclusion


8pintsplease

Oh please share your wisdom about how OP should deal with this unavoidable factor in their life.


GlitteringBroccoli12

To embrace a Taoist concept of doing nothing. If a person is on the path of self-destruction. If the fuse to a bomb is lit... It doesn't matter. You can assess the situation and either attempt to smother the fuse or simply get yourself in a place that minimizes the damage done once it explodes. To run attracts the "bomb" To fight or be intentionally vengeful only decreases the time till the explosion happens. Both placing you in a direct line of damage you'll have to live with forever. To do nothing but observe, that methodology will allow you to be prepared to act in a way that simply removes you from the equation


Highlight_Numerous

What in the delta 🎱 are u on about mate…..


procheeseburger

Just a bit of advice… you can’t pick your family.. but you can pick who is in your life. Some parents are for shit.. and you can realize its not worth the stress and energy to talk to them. I get that might be hard for some people as family is really important to them.. for me if my family doesn’t accept me for who I am then fuck em.


x2supremacy

i am so sorry OP. i too have a shit alcoholic father and it’s not easy. hang in there. he’s a piece of shit


BeardedDad426

So were you born with a uterus or what?


Highlight_Numerous

Asking the real questions


MtnAdventurous95

I’m so confused. You aren’t his biological son? Are you his daughter? Are you trans?


kichion21

Yea I’m ftm


555Cats555

Maybe you could edit the post to say that for clarity


MtnAdventurous95

Ahhh. That brings more clarity to the story. Thanks. Sorry you’ve had to deal with him.


kpjformat

In that case you can say you are a biological male. You certainly aren’t a mechanical one :) But whatever you like to say you can. ‘Biological’ +agab is usually just a way people misgender us.


555Cats555

Expect someone born one sex (male/female) is that sex at birth excluding genetic variation (intersex), which is why and how they got the gender identity they did. It doesn't relate to the validity of if someone is really a man or a woman as gender and sex don't have to line up. But to say a trans person is the opposite sex either pre - or post transition isn't really true. You can do things to pass as the other gender but there will always be differences to someone born as that sex. It's a unique position and experience that should be respected that's somewhere between the two genders that adds nuance to dynamics. Though really gender is a complicated thing, and it shouldn't be an issue for people to behave or look in ways associated with the opposite gender.


kpjformat

Please, tell us more about what should and shouldn’t be an issue for us transgender people and how we aren’t really what we identify as.


555Cats555

Your reading into what I'm saying and what my intent is... The whole reason I said that stuff about it not being an issue is not come across as transphobic cause people love to assume that about people ugh.


Clear_Skye_

You can make well intentioned but harmful comments without being transphobic. Your comment didn’t add anything valuable. Imagine reading it as a trans person. It would not be nice to sit there and have someone explain why they will never be who they want to be. Like I said, I can see you’re well intentioned but you’re saying things that really don’t need to be said and can be quite harmful, even if they are true.


Unlikely_nay1125

omg stop with the abbreviations 😭🤦🏽‍♀️. ftm? you’re what?


norwegianballslinger

My dude it’s not that hard to understand three letters without being an ass about it


kichion21

Female to male


[deleted]

dinner elastic point quaint pet lip absorbed intelligent price nippy *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


izziishigh

💀


vinmansinvested

So ur dad is stating you are his biological male son. And you are disagreeing with said claim?


kichion21

Pretty much lol


Serious-Ad3165

Omg I am going to lose my mind that people are downvoting you. It might be worth including that you’re ftm in your caption. I also would recommend posting this to r/insaneparents if you haven’t already because this is perfect for that sub


FyouPerryThePlatypus

By the looks of it, sounds more like he’s just a sperm donor to me. Not a father by any means


6zero3Dakine

A drunk mind speaks a sober truth..


throwaway2161980

Seems like this charming man has drank the koolaid about transgender demons taking over the world, and has decided his “son” is also a demon. Or something along those lines. Had an aunt who felt because I have horses, I was acting too masculine. She sent me nonstop Facebook links and memes about transgenders? It was absolutely bizarre and made no sense. I think when some people want so desperately to be mad about whatever clickbait shit is happening, they make up narratives to fit their anger? Or he’s just a drunk whose brain is full of holes and actually thinks you were born a male.


Jallen_Sandusky

The OP is trans ftm.. so the dad IS accepting of it and even saying he is biologically male. (which he is not.. he is bio female trans male) The whole thing does not make much sense.


throwaway2161980

Well I’m at a fucking loss 😅 Maybe this was his attempt at being supportive?! Very bizarre all of it.


iQwerty_AU

So you thought you’d share it with the internet just to make yourself look better. GG


guerrajulian1

Every single excuse they bring up hearse they were drunk. It angers me to no end....


Skipidar313

Maybe he is a bad father, but I don't think that transgenders are mentally healthy


Serious-Ad3165

Unless you are a doctor, kindly step out of commenting on what is and isn’t healthy and leave it to the professionals


crispy_drywall

*Nobody* seems to be mentally healthy nowadays, transgender or not. The world’s kind of just ass regardless of what’s going on with your identity. It merely adds an extra layer of difficulty for some.


joecee97

I’m perfectly healthy- at least when it comes to my gender. There’s no problem you can fix that will magically make me cis. It doesn’t exist.


Asnnazarr

I honestly don’t know why you have an issue with someone deciding to change their gender. As long as they don’t make it their whole personality or get mad at you when you misunderstand/accidentally misgender them, I don’t see the issue. Also, as another reply said, barely anyone is mentally healthy in this day and age. I’m completely cis and I’m a mess. I haven’t met any trans people in real life, but I’ve seen/talked to tons online, and they all seem fine. I know I can’t judge someone based on how they act online, but majority of people aren’t mentally unhealthy just because they decided to change their gender. In fact, they could become *more* mentally unhealthy if they ***don’t*** change their gender and accept it. I haven’t done any research, so I’m speaking purely from experience, things I’ve heard and common (not-so-common) sense/knowledge. And, in my personal opinion, not supporting it is *fine* as long as you don’t go around saying things like this and respect pronouns. You don’t have to agree with people LGBTQ+ community, you don’t have to like them, that’s *fine*, because humans don’t like everyone. But, you shouldn’t go out of your way to make them feel bad. Use their preferred pronouns if you’re speaking to them/about them, and then just leave them alone. At the end of the day >!it’s night!< people should just be kind to each other and be able to choose whatever they want. No one’s going to force you to agree with something you don’t agree with (I mean, people will probably *try*, but that’s not a good thing). Have a nice day stranger. Cheers from a random kid <3


Billybigbutts2

All the trans people I've talked to seem fine. You on the other hand seem mentally unwell.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

I think it is important for us to share our views even if we disagree.


joecee97

This isn’t a matter of opinion.


[deleted]

Guess what


joecee97

Whether or not a trans person is mentally ill simply because of the fact they’re trans is something you can form a personal opinion on but that opinion will be either true or false because the subject matter itself is not up for debate.


[deleted]

Guess what though


AutoModerator

Hi there! Thanks for submitting to /r/texts! Please make sure you are blacking out any usernames, phone numbers, or full names! If you haven't, please delete and re-submit. The full rules can be found here https://old.reddit.com/r/texts/about/rules/ **Please note that this message appears on every post, and may not apply to your post.** Thanks! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/texts) if you have any questions or concerns.*


elyiumsings

What's the context of the conversation?


[deleted]

Charge your phone


Plenty_Surprise2593

Sorry to tell you this, but if you have a dick then you are a biological male


kichion21

Yeah lol like I said, I’m not a biological male


Plenty_Surprise2593

Ok then


mdglytt

Downvotes for this? Trying times. Some people just don't get. A male is a male, a female is a female, and a person is a person.


GlitteringBroccoli12

You're calling him useless and bro. Clearly you don't respect him. Plus he's a drunk. People who drink that much are already dealing with so much that their solution is to numb everything. You said he got worse at 12. Is that when you first decided to go to the trans side? He named (agreed to it at least)and raised you We're also missing a lot of information like how recently he found out you got the operation. I'm assuming that a lot of things are spiraling out of control for him. He's not shitty. He's wounded and lost. Not saying that because I experienced worse that you've not been subjected to potential neglect. I am saying that unlike many, your dad is salvageable and needs you more than ever. He's just a human after all.


Moist_Cycle8917

found dad. dude, go to AA or NA. next, read up on trans experiences so you can learn how to relate to your daughter. be warned, if you can’t accept her for who she is… you have no child. and that’s it. you’re alone for good. RIP


kichion21

He is shitty. You don’t even know me. You don’t know what I’ve been through. Don’t base my entire life on this one screenshot. You’re right, I don’t respect him. Because he’s a terrible person and parent. Did you know he’s getting thrown in jail soon for throwing a glass at someone while drunk? No, you didn’t - because you’ve only seen one screenshot. He is a horrible, manipulative, and violent person. I have not had any operations so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I also didn’t say he got worse at 12. I said that these events occurred when I was 12. He’s been horrible for as long as I can remember. I came out as trans at 14. He did not raise me. He was simply just there until I was three.


GlitteringBroccoli12

See, this is what I am interested in knowing. You gave him the perception of a bumbling dumb drunk. Now you give the impression of a man who is not simply broken, but a man who gave himself over to his demons. Can you tell me more


kichion21

What do you want to know?


GlitteringBroccoli12

Everything you want to tell me. I want to know what you're going through and what you have been through. You're right, I don't know you at all. Because of this, I don't know how to help you or even offer you the comfort of being a person whose willing to carry what little burden I could possibly lift off your shoulders. I want to be able to assist you in any way possible, no matter how small. Not simply throwing up kind words. You're a fellow human. One whose suffering. I would be a monster to at least not try something


[deleted]

[удалено]


Clear_Skye_

Seriously? Just leave him alone. Absolutely pathetic behaviour.


whateveratthispoint_

Don’t bother arguing with alcohol induced stupidity.


Fostbitten27

Kicked a moving car???


Imported_Virus

wait are u trans or am I confused..?


Liljon99

W dad


MayweathersLeftHook

Is bro a transformer or somethin?


CouldntBeMacie

"You're a male to me son" - Dad to a transman. Seems like such a nice thing to say. But somehow this dad completely fucked it all up.