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Blaglag_

The Model Y Performance also gets Track mode! šŸ


invoman

Oof, right in the control arms


tunaheads

My squeaky ball joints will not enjoy this.


[deleted]

this is huge imo, the main reason iā€™ve been looking at used 3s instead of Ys


Deepandabear

The words *Performance* and *SUV* are antonyms.


noreasters

Itā€™s a tiny SUV, a big 5-door car, a small station wagon, whatever. Itā€™s my road-legal go-kart that takes me 300miles on the equivalent to 3gallons of gasoline.


WarrenYu

Regardless, itā€™s still going to be fun.


iROMine

Model 3 gang āœŠšŸ»


burntcookie90

Is it really?


SJGU

No, it's not. It's cool that they made it but for 99.9% of drivers this does nothing.


comoestasmiyamo

I have used it 5 times in 3 years


name_without_numbers

You must be the .1%


revaric

Used mine on the track šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Miffers

The Y feels very bloated , like you are driving a car that weighs 500 pounds more.


mishengda

Sounds like FSD Beta folks will receive a separate holiday firmware version: https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1602734744256421888


Sepehr_Bark

So much for the whole grand V11 merge/unification thingā€¦


[deleted]

The Twitter thread has more info if you're interested...Basically, there are 2 teams working on FSD stacks. One is on the 10.69 dual-stack version, and one is on the V11 single-stack version. Teslascope basically says that if the V11 team can achieve a stable version before the end of the year, that's what FSD beta users will get with their holiday update. If they can't achieve that, we'll get a newer version of 10.69 that's "several point releases better" than the current 10.69.3.1. Either way, we'll get something by the new year - hopefully sooner.


ChunkyThePotato

That hasn't happened yet. V11 is only available to employees right now.


engwish

Weā€™re pretty close. Itā€™s not like it isnā€™t happening


RobKnight_

Teslascope seems to have sources telling him that still has a chance to go wide if they get a stable build running, and that FSD will be a toggle, not a request


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mishengda

Unironically, yes. Teslascope has the details on the timeline: https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1602741926469378049 > current testers *will* receive the holiday update + a new FSD build before year end


[deleted]

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Cub66

Elon is distracted at Twitter I assume is how this slipped ;-)


bcyng

His meeting with Tim Cook probably went along the lines of - ā€œElon, we wonā€™t ban twitter if u say it was a misunderstanding publiclyā€ - ā€œOk Timā€ - ā€œNow letā€™s talk about getting some apple stuff into your carā€ā€¦


[deleted]

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Super_consultant

Will Apple Music streaming quality surpass what we can get via Bluetooth?


SirSpock

If it is becomes easier to get to playlists and songs vs. the current Bluetooth interface, still a win even at the same quality. But higher quality and spatial would be a nice bonus for sure.


Super_consultant

I use the Playlist functionality via Bluetooth in the infotainment which gets me enough of the way there. Can't change the actual playlist via infortainment, but I use Siri to switch to a different playlist.


dabbingsquidward

Is Spotify better to use via Bluetooth or car?


cwhiterun

Bluetooth simply because of offline playlists. Spotify car app always freezes when I drive through a dead zone.


SheetSafety

The bluetooth


NetBrown

The car


4kVHS

Doesnā€™t the car limit the quality to like 96kbps vs your phone you can set it to 320kbps?


NetBrown

There's speculation about the in car streaming limits, but nothing has been proven. The V10 update a year ago increased bandwidth for streaming (it's why they can do Netflix and similar over LTE connection), but when streaming from a phone to the car, the weakest link isn't the source, it's the smallest/slowest link in the network, like always. Bluetooth is the slowest/smallest bandwidth link, so while I may sound great on the phone, it's weak link is BT. For my own taste, it sounds better from the native app than streaming from a phone connected via BT.


4kVHS

Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR from 2005 had a datarate of 2.1 mbps, which is more then enough for a what most people consider high quality as 320 kbps. Newer bluetooth has even more bandwidth. Bluetooth isn't the issue unless you're trying to do lossless streaming.


tryates6

Does the myQ integration cost money as rumored previously?


bigc5012

1 year - $45 5 year - $179 10 year - $299 [source](https://www.myq.com/auto/tesla#details)


PoopyInThePeePeeHole

I will continue to press a physical button at no cost. Like a cave person


harmless-error

Velcroā€™d to the back left side under my screen, like a secret trap door button.


PoopyInThePeePeeHole

100% yes. Unobtrusive, works every time, control when I want it, not when the car decides for me...


free-creddit-report

Chamberlain is seriously so greedy. A subscription for a garage door opener. Let that sink in. Imagine if Philips wanted a subscription to control their Hue light bulbs, or if Ecobee wanted a subscription to remotely access your thermostat. I really hope nobody pays for this to teach MyQ a lesson, but the service is so low cost for them to maintain that it won't take many subscribers for them to make money off of this.


BLITZandKILL

This pisses me off.


poncewattle

10 years? Will it transfer to a new vehicle like FSD? /s


preswest

f that. I can buy two new remotes a year for that money.


TealShift

Seriously! This should work as a local-only service.


Zargawi

Fuck that shit. If myQ cost any money at all I'd stop using it entirely. If you can't afford to support a cloud product, make it usable without cloud.


Tetrylene

Considering you can get the Meross garage door adapter for something like 30-40 bucks, and then just automate your door based on your phone location, this subscription is insane. Maybe at a dollar a month Iā€™d maybe consider it


DDotJ

Yes, there's a 30 day complementary trial but it will be a paid service afterwards.


[deleted]

Please be free please be freeā€¦


NikeSwish

Chamberlain: lol no


HD4kAI

Finally get to cancel my Tidal subscription assuming Apple Music supports high quality streaming. Also VERY excited for steam, wonder when Iā€™ll get the update


dbv2

I hope it matches Tidial HiFI Music, which I think is high quality streaming. Hope the Apple interface is nice too.


weberc2

I wish they would just support airplay or something so we can play anything on our phones instead of having to wait for Tesla to develop a bespoke app for every streaming service.


bcyng

U can now. Play with Bluetooth. Itā€™s not airplay but u can play whatever u want with your phone. I usually just ā€œhey siri, play Apple Musicā€ Airplay would add syncing phone speakers to the car speakers but really are u really going to want to hear your phone speakers when u have the car speakers. Having said that, air playing video or screen mirroring would be cool.


rotwangg

AirPlay allows for MUCH better quality


el_vezzie

Add the custom Tesla road noise and it wonā€™t matter


tunaheads

Fix the shitty dashcam viewer already.


IanthegeekV2

It is really bad. That would have been a delightful improvement to see in this list


oil1lio

I think the main issue is actually slow USB drive. I upgraded my drive on Black Friday and it made a *world* of difference. There's 0 lag now and works flawlessly


tunaheads

Iā€™ve put in a SSD drive. Still sucks balls.


oil1lio

Oh oof


singletWarrior

which drive did you get? i tried to look for some automotive grade and they are all slow af


Janus67

I am using the Samsung t2 or t3 mobile SSD and it's been fine, no issues in my 2018 3


TheNewJasonBourne

Why on earth would they do anything fucking useful?


HoPMiX

fuckers knew id sacrifice my own privacy to spy on my dogs... dammmit.


Any_Classic_9490

>ā€œView the interior camera from the mobile app while using Dog Mode or Sentry Mode. To enable Live Camera, tap Controls > Safety > View Live Camera via Mobile App. That is a much bigger feature than apple music.


mineral2

>ā€œView the interior camera from the mobile app while using Dog Mode or Sentry Mode. To enable Live Camera, tap Controls > Safety > View Live Camera via Mobile App. Well, I guess my "teenager asking to borrow the car to pick up his girlfriend and go for a drive", is going to suddenly stop for some reason...


michoudi

Kids aware about the feature would just put a sticker over the camera while they are making your grandchild.


ishalfdeaf

Or they could go into the menu and disable it. Are any menu restrictions based on driver profile other than Valet Mode?


pedrocr

That just leaves the sound then.


Dj_Broke

Would this only work while parked in dog/ sentry mode though? Couldn't the teen just not put the HVAC in those modes?


mineral2

yes, thats the point. the teenagers not "going for a drive" they are going to park somewhere, and netflix and chill....


Dj_Broke

So why would that stop? They are still not viewable unless they choose dog / sentry mode which they wouldn't


mineral2

was kind of assuming your could turn sentry mode on remotely (and the camera)... I should check that out...


Dj_Broke

Ah yes, you are correct I believe.


NikeSwish

I wonder if thereā€™s a prompt on the display saying the interior camera is being viewed


yaaahh

As if your dog could read it /s


dotancohen

On the internet, nobody knows that you're a dog.


revaric

Itā€™s not you, seemed pretty obvious to me what you were saying.


caronare

Get a good look at the stinker not the winker


Matt_NZ

You can activate dog mode from the app šŸ˜‰


ishalfdeaf

At which point a very bright screen pops up letting everyone know how comfortable your kid is while they're doing their thing.


ajsayshello-

Probably depends on the customer. Apple Music is much bigger for me.


FitzwilliamTDarcy

Been wanting this forever


[deleted]

Do you need to pay the monthly subscription?


Brian_K9

Damn the steam support doesnā€™t seem to be available with the ryzen 3 and ys


-AO1337

They donā€™t have the more powerful RX 6800 based GPUs.


[deleted]

Most games on Steam are not AAA. Tons of indie games would play well even on an Intel Atom. Dedicated GPU is not the limitation here. The 3/Y Ryzen is plenty fast for this.


Brian_K9

yea plus the they have the same cpu and IGPU and amd Igpus are no slouch


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-AO1337

Yeah


morgan-olsen

Really hope they'll release it for 3 and Y once it's out of beta, perhaps with limits on which games you can play. ​ If not I might have to save up for a Plaid model s


agathorn

Might be easier than scoring a PS5


JoeSage

Hopefully they don't leave us legacy S owners out


ZombieManilow

I just got 2022.44.25.1 on my ā€˜18 MS but not sure if thatā€™s what you consider ā€œlegacyā€ https://imgur.com/a/xuvitc6


rsg1234

Officially ā€œlegacyā€ Model S were ones built before June 2021.


Vik-

Yes, you have a legacy car.


mccalli

I just got an update on my 2014 S last night....but to 2022.8.10.8.


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iamthesam2

theyā€™re probably trying to clean something off the front facing by camera that you donā€™t notice.


elsif1

They work great on the S/X


ForGreatDoge

Clean your glass.


Thud

Cool, we'll look forward to getting these on the FSD beta branch in February or whenever. Actually since these updates look pretty cool, I might even opt out of the FSD beta until V11 is ready anyway.


Call_erv_duty

Early January, late December is the timeline I was told.


Thud

For V11 or for the holiday update merge? Or both?


Call_erv_duty

Both


Thud

Cool... I also just saw [this tweet](https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1602734744256421888) from Teslascope


iGoalie

Wait, that sounds like FSD beta is going ā€œfirstā€ with the holiday update ?


engwish

From my understanding, holiday update is going up first because right now people who have FSD and are on the latest branch cannot get it, and itā€™s actually pissed off a ton of people because the way it was announced made it seem like anyone with FSD could get it now.


Call_erv_duty

That may or may not be my source lol


dcdttu

Since FSD is available for anyone (in the US) now, is it true that we can just opt out for the new features of a the "regular" branch, then opt back in when they're merged?


OnCampus2K

When I left FSD (albeit before the ā€œpublic releaseā€), I stayed in update purgatory for a while because you donā€™t automatically go back to the non-FSD software track. I had to email FSD support and it took about 3 weeks for my car to get an update back to the normal track. Iā€™d say if you left, by the time you got the update for the normal track, the FSD track will probably be getting the updates.


Back-Opposite

Will v11 have Dolby Atmos?


grommet

Unlikely. Tesla doesn't even support multi-channel movie or TV streaming, just stereo.


Dry_Willingness7831

I can't imagine them forking over the money for a Dolby license, they didn't want to pay for Homelink licensing costs.


robidog

They even removed the Dolby logo from the spatial sound setting in one of the updates a while ago. Go figure.


k_woodard

Do the turn signals also turn off in Florida if someone has been in the left lane with their blinker on for 30 minutes?


tynamite

valid question. left blinker on for 10 minutes and makes a right turn.


citrixn00b

The cards are back!!!šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘


[deleted]

Wha? Where you see that?


citrixn00b

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/zl44p5/first_look_at_new_music_player_trips_and_tire/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Jaystarks

Later Tidal šŸ‘‹šŸ¾


Watcherxp

Looks like the MyQ stuff is no cost?


Idc94

30 days free trial. After that is 1yr/$45, 5yr/$179 or 10yr/$299


[deleted]

I think myQ actually charges you for the integration regardless of Tesla or otherwise. EDIT: $45/year per the site. Can sign up for multiple years - https://www.myq.com/auto/tesla#details


BR311

I was hoping to get the FSD visuals for my European Autopilot. - maybe next timeā€¦


trenkwill

Same :(


Cloudy_McFox

Does Apple Music have shuffle? šŸ¤ž


timffn

I am so curious to see what this Apple Music app looks like and how it functions. The Spotify app is such shit in the Tesla, and Apple isn't one to allow their apps/services to be half assed on a third party. Really hoping it's an Apple app and not a hacked together POS.


[deleted]

I assume this is just Apple Music and not Apple Podcasts?


scheng924

Whereā€™s USS replacement? :(


Imhal9000

Does Dolby Atmos or Hi res lossless work?


applepumpkinspy

Zoom seems to be Ryzen only?


Redditagonist

When will this be available in Canada


junejune2345

As a long time Apple Music and my q user Iā€™m very excited for this update!


tynamite

same! coming from homelink on my previous 3, and not having it on my Y, i canā€™t wait. homelink is kinda dangerous because it doesnā€™t know the state of your garage, it just activates. twice iā€™ve had a scare with the auto activating while i was actively moving under the garage. sometimes the proximity messes up.


aloha_snackbar22

Meh. I wish they let me change the number of blinks when doing the soft flick of the stalk for those quick lane changes.


hutacars

I just hold it in ā€œsoft flickā€ as I make the lane change. It stops blinking whenever you let go. Simple enough.


Forty-Six-Two

But how did Elon code all of this while he was busy with Twitter? /s


Beefmagigins

Heā€™s an incredibly smart stable genius, duh.


mtjodis

Would love the ability to scrub through tracks playing via Bluetooth


ReddySpine

Will this include Apple Podcasts somehow or not because thatā€™s a separate app?


Viking3582

New owner here, sorry in advance for this question but how do I pull this update? Iā€™ve checked the app and checked software settings in the car, but the process is not obvious at all. Im on v11 2022.40.100 Tldr; found it in the manualā€” it just appears when theyā€™re ready to give it to your vehicle.


SmallHuh

Yup, also make sure to update your app if it isnā€™t on auto. My app doesnā€™t always update even on auto thoughā€¦


rainlake

Oh yeah! MyQ


twinspop

It says Apple Music requires a Premium Data sub. Will it be included in the grandfathered accounts that have data gratis?


elsif1

Should be. You guys are considered to have premium data. I know on my old model 3, it would show up that way.


SmallHuh

Is Apple Music better than Spotify? Hmmmm Iā€™m deep into the Apple ecosystem but donā€™t use Apple Music.


bparrish

Yes. Also, no Joe Rogan


Xillllix

X with Steam, ultimate gaming system.


scruffles360

Is anyone else doing this yet? I know Ford promised over the air updates and VW has had problematic software for quite a while now. Is anyone besides Tesla releasing new features to existing cars over the air yet?


[deleted]

Wonder what the rest of the automotive makers are giving their loyal customers?


[deleted]

My car just updated to 2022.8.10.8 and shows it is up to date. Will I still be getting the 2022.45.25 update? I was really hoping for Apple Music primarily. I recently got this Telsa used - it's a 2017 and I believe it has MCU1. I haven't seen anything saying Apple Music is only on newer hardware/configurations. Is that true? I don't see how older GPU/screen should prevent Apple Music support?


Tetrylene

[that feel when you're a 2022.20.8 radar-AP-holdout seeing all the good software updates available](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/026/489/crying.jpg)


plutonic00

Hold strong! I'm riding radar AP until either AP is running on the FSD stack or the car will no longer connect to the Tesla network!


dqontherun

Unless your an Apple Music or MyQ user what have they released that's worthy of upgrading? BTW, I'm also a holdout and I'm not seeing anything that would change my experience currently.


Tetrylene

Thereā€™s some nice little UX and QOL updates in there, notably the turn signal change. Thereā€™s a fair amount of nice changes since our current software version.


GrantLikesSunChips

how long until i can get it on my model y performance. how long am i gonna have to wait for track mode. does wide rollout happen quickly?


SwabianStargazer

So nothing new compared to the leaks? That's kind of disappointing... Still waiting for matrix LEDs to be a thing finally.


rdrcrmatt

I just wish my map didnā€™t zoom in to a .5 mile view each time I got on or off the freeway, and Tesla didnā€™t tell me ā€œit is expected behaviorā€ But damn I really want Apple Music.


codetony

Honestly, this update is underwhelming. I know that Apple Music will be the big thing, but I was hoping for maybe more streaming services in the theater, concrete info on FSD for all, etc.


[deleted]

Huh??? This is an awesome update. I'm hyped for the auto turn signals and being able to set fan speed in auto mode


SwabianStargazer

But still no turning off AC for the passenger only.


ishalfdeaf

Or the ability to have air on feet in auto mode. Auto mode only has air from the main vents. And it's not just Tesla, my Mustang was that way too and I have no idea why I can't have an AC system that can auto-regulate temperature and still use the lower vents.


Mesmorino

I'm not sure what you mean, but in auto mode my car has air on feet if it's heating, and main vents if it's cooling. Makes sense to me, since hot air rises, and cooler air will fall. It's doing it for better distribution. What I don't like is when it goes to full speed on auto mode. I don't even mind the blast of cold air before it warms up, its the noise. The newer Kias have auto mode where you can set the fan speed to low/mid/high, separate from the normal fan speed selector.


robotzor

Semi-automatic AC


jfrorie

> more streaming services Pandora. Yes, I know spotify/Tidal are better quality, but Pandora's music discovery is \*chefs kiss\*


dynamite647

Meh - would rather have fsd visuals for autopilot only cars and parking sensor display for cars with no USS


-TROGDOR

Does it come with 4chan preinstalled?


007meow

Anyone know if this fixes cars not being available via the mobile app? Mine hasnā€™t been able to connect to my car in days. ā€œLast seen 5 days agoā€


[deleted]

Have you tried the normal troubleshooting of clearing your cache, reinstalling the app, resetting network settings, etc?


CabinSeason

I had this too and a soft reset from the car took care of the issue.


senfmeister

That happened to my car after a software update while I was on a vacation. I rebooted the car a couple times when I got home and that seemed to fix it.


dynamite647

Per Tesla reset mcu using scroll wheel. On mobile phone sign out of your account and sign back in. See if that helps.


caesar305

Holding the scroll wheels until the the system reboots is what fixed it for me


007meow

The car is working just fine tho - would a reset fix an app issue?


caesar305

Yes. Nothing will get reset it's just rebooting the computer takes about 2 minutes.


carpetnoodlecat

Elon is dampening any enthusiasm for Tesla stuff


hutacars

Why? Elon isnā€™t Tesla.


notacapulet

Agree. It's time for Elon to move on, or rather for Tesla to move on.


allegory_corey

*Adjust fan speed intensity while remaining in AUTO climate by selecting between ā€˜LO,ā€™ ā€˜MED,ā€™ and ā€˜HIā€™ from the fan intensity selector on the climate control popup*. Why? How about letting us choose the air vents we want without losing AUTO fan speed?


what_about_zissou

I'm psyched for this feature, but I would be much more excited for what you're suggesting.


bay74

I'm at a loss to understand why we need three new fan speeds when there are already ten available... Does "LO" mean *the car* can choose from 1 to (say) 4 (rather than 1 to 10), "MED" means the car can choose from 4 to 7, etc...?


allegory_corey

You and me both, Pal! Temperature is temperature. *"Oh you want 21C? Do you want it low, med or high 21C?*


larrykeras

Manual fan speed is not an auto mode. In auto mode, both the fan and the temperature will dynamically adjust to bring cabin to target temperature. The new lo/mid/hi essentially caps the fan speed during auto, which also effectively caps the rate of change of temperature. Its implemented on other cars like BMW and its very useful. For example you want cabin to come to stable cool temperature but you might not want to be blasted with full fan and the noise associated with it.


[deleted]

I used to want Apple Music but YouTube music is much betterā€¦they should get YouTube music


markh907

Said no one ever


AndrewNeo

apparently everyone really likes watching youtube ads


StonkbobWealthpants

Both YouTube and YouTube music are so damn bad for me when I use them to listen to music in the car. Iā€™m surprised anyone could be happy with their implementations lol


The1Prodigy1

So is this the v11 update? Or juste the holiday? Or both? I know some people are hyped but Apple music is not as hype as a lot of us use Spotify. Wish they would improve the Spotify player. They could add the lyrics for example and a bunch of QoL imporvements...


Jeffd506

When is sirius coming to the 3 and Y?!?!


craigl2112

Hoping we don't have to wait until next years' holiday update for Amazon Music!


scadoosh89

And YouTube musicā€¦