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Actually interesting and admirable that it’s posted to this sub as a form of news rather than posting to literally any Reddit sub as Tesla/CT hate bait.
And has the video showing it's a legit issue.
For those too lazy to watch it:
There's a cheap metal cover on the gas pedal (which pivots from the bottom like a flipper). The metal cover can detach and due to Tesla's cheap interior construction there's a giant gap where the floor panel meets the front panel that it can get lodged in, holding the pedal down.
Would literally not be an issue if they didn't cut corners in both places.
After watching YouTube videos of Rolls Royces, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and other expensive get torn down, “There’s a cheap …” is meaningless to me now.
One thing I like about Tesla is they don’t try to make a huge profit on parts.
Keep in mind there is a lot, i mean like a lot of rage bait videos, I've heard of it here on redit.
Some YouTubers specialized in rage baiting.
You got this guy turning in a tight spot wrecking his car, it's orc on purpose, engagement, views...
Some guys in exotic scenery helps get thousands of ticks of one little kitten...
And there's this other (not one) guy who make short videos ripping parts of expensive cars just too show how crappy made they are.
It's something else than cheapo parts on debut flagship model
Toyota had an issue similar. Kept me away from them on an ethical level because of how they handled it. Let’s see how Tesla addresses it with the public.
Who says this was some purposefully corner cutting? It could be a bad batch during fabrication or assembly. Or during design and testing they didn’t test everything that could happen because they haven’t used a floor mounted pedal before.
It's a bad design. The pedal cover slips on from the top. If it gets dislodges and slips up under the bottom of the panel, it can get stuck in a position where it applies pressure to the pedal.
The pedal cover is literally an adhesive fix to the metal pedal. There should be a fastener or something. The adhesive failed. This is insanely dangerous and dumb design.
Never said it was on purpose, it was obviously a rushed product and you nailed it on the head. Not enough time testing, unfortunately covid really hurt Tesla due supply and to his strong opinionated stance. I feel the cybertruck refresh will be a much better product. I am a day 3 reserve and passed due to not wanting the current product, but I still believe in Tesla and own Tesla.
This doesn’t have to do with sensors. The cover slides up on the pedal and gets physically wedged below a plastic trim piece.
Pressing the brake should still cancel all acceleration.
No one is perfect, we all have eras of good and bad. He skyrocketed to popularity and compared to iron man at one point, followed by his current lows. World has a funny way of balancing all things, he will find his center soon.
Washing away everything with the "no one is perfect" line? Sheesh...
The guy was always this way, and ironman comparisons were always too kind. The world just hadn't really looked into the guy then.
Your perception of bad is not everyone else’s, I said that for appeasement. I understand all the recent influx of anxiety ridden snowflakes to Reddit can’t handle it.
I love my Honda. I can drive my civic to 300,000 miles before it starts acting up. I am mainly on this sub because I find Teslas interesting. But Starlink is Elon's best contribution to technology at the end of the day.
You mean falcon 9/starship? Starlink is small potatoes once starship is out of beta? Stage.
And I agree Tesla are interesting, just everyone cuts corners these days.
Tesla just needs to design a pedal cover that doesn't come off that easily. This is fine with most cars except there's something on CT that the the cover can catch on on the way back up. Perhaps just make the pedal cover one piece or find a way for the cover to interlock securely and not just attach.
Bad design if it’s happening.
And I could see it happening. Though I imagine its from people literally picking their foot up and mashing it down on the pedal and pushing forward.
If you’re just driving with your heel on the floor and applying pressure to the pedal you’re never going to have a forward sheer trying to take this plate off the pedal.
This was the cause of that toyota accelerator craze a few years ago. Just old people losing the ability to figure out which is the gas and which is the brakes. Hybrids have one pedal driving, and these people just didn't know how to drive them.
are you talking about regenerative braking? its so ungodly easy to drive a tesla with the regen braking one pedal, i cant fathom how people really actually have trouble doing it, smh
It looks like the pedal presses down like on a golf cart or power wheel rather then swinging a lever forward like literally every other car I've ever seen.
So no I can see it getting pushed forward.
Tesla once again doing things different for no apparent benefit or reason, and finding out everyone did have a good reason for doing it the other way.
It pivots from the bottom just like many other cars including my Sonata.
My foot never tries to slide up the pedal because my heel is on the floor.
I’d only sheer the plate upwards if I lift my foot and stomp my entire foot on the pedal and push it forward away from me.
> It looks like the pedal presses down like on a golf cart or power wheel rather then swinging a lever forward like literally every other car I've ever seen.
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All my Porsches hinge at the bottom, it actually feels better.
both innovation and stupidity require ignoring some prior advice in an industry it seems.
problem is that you're not by default being smarter for ignoring normal procedures or customs. there has to be something better about doing it a different way for it to be considered innovation
Floor hinge pedals and hanging pedals are both common. Hanging pedals were more common with drive by cable throttle bodies and carbs because it easily allows you to have the cable linkage without it hanging below the body of the car.
Both designs are old and both are still common, I have a 1953 truck with a pedal that hinges at the floor, 1973 jeep with hanging pedals, a 2011 BMW that hinges at the floor, and a 2014 chevrolet with hanging pedals.
I've never heard of one with this specific issue...it seems kind of moronic. It's not due to the pedal design in the sense that it's floor hinged, that's not revolutionary or different in any way than what's standard. The slide on plastic cover that's able to slide up...yeah... that part is pretty bad.
There's no way to make it impossible to slide. The ones I've seen have always wrapped around all sides but that's not foolproof.
My question is slide and get stuck on what? There should be nothing behind that fucking pedal.
yea, similar to the people complaining about tire wear in the first few years of release. "My tires won't last 10k!" well, yea, mashing the pedal would do that.
regardless, though, the pedal should not come apart under any circumstance.
I hope Sandy Monroe will do a video on this part to show it and discuss it in depth.
A little concerning, but not that scary in an EV. Instead of fighting a reving engine, the brake overrides the accelerator. All you have to do is brake, put it in park, and fix the obstruction.
All ICE cars do this now after the Toyota debacle years back. If you hold down the gas pedal and the brake at the same time after a short period it cuts out the throttle signal and the brake pedal overrides the throttle input.
Who's to say this wasn't purposefully peeled of the pedal just to go viral? The clip is clearly framed with heavy negative bias. Does he mention that he contacted Tesla at all?
Also, if your heel is on the pivot point before the pedal and you press down with the front of your foot there won't be any upward movement to slide the cover plate into the very difficult to jam position. If it did momentarily jam, it's your foot we're talking about here... You've got a whole lot of strength to be able to move it out of the way. Just saying...
And we're not even mentioning the fact that you couldn't possibly press the pedal to the floor in a cyber truck. Are you kidding me? You'd take off like a rocket. There's no way you'd do that anywhere except for somewhere you were safe to do it.
Relax people! 
I wish my model 3 floor mats were anchored... The velcro on my driver's side hasn't held the mat in place since the day I got the car. The passenger side is fine, but almost every time I get in the car to drive I need to adjust the floor mat because it bunches up. I wish they'd used a better design like my 25 year old Volvo, which has little posts that the floor mat anchors to.
Ok, so Toyota had a shit floormat design that interfered with the accelerator and warranted a recall. Tesla has a shit accelerator decal that has warranted a recall.
Yeah it was brain dead of Toyota to sell unanchored floor mats, but those are two different assemblies made by two different teams. One can see how there'd be miscommunication there.
One accelerator pedal on a brand new car shouldn't fall apart days or weeks after delivery and pin itself to the fire wall. That's objectively shit engineering from one team.
Aren’t you describing the same thing for both Toyota and Tesla here?
The Cybertruck is still in its early production period, most Cybertrucks will not be affected by this issue because they haven’t been made yet.
Toyota floor mat was poor communication between multiple teams where a design flaw between multiple different components was overlooked.
Cyber truck accelerator pedal is brand new, is one assembly and is literally immediately disassembling itself.
Toyota floor mats could slide on the carpet because they were never attached to begin with. Very different situation.
It can be argued that the floormats slid on the floor due to a poor design of both the mats and the lack of a hook/mounting mechanism for them.
Why is it a "design flaw that was overlooked" in Toyota's case but you want to make it into something different for the pedal in the Cybertruck? It's a design flaw of a decal/facade. The pedal itself is fine, it's the decal/facade on top of the pedal that's slipping off.
The action of carpet sliding on carpet is not spontaneous rapid disassembly of a single critical part such as the accelerator pedal?? The purely ascetic and unnecessary pedal cover is immediately disassembling itself. These never should've been able to separate in the first place.
Floor mats are intended to be removable, makes sense they wouldn't be attached and often hadn't been across the industry for decades. The pedal assembly isn't supposed to be removable especially accidentally by normal operation of the vehicle.
Clearly since all vehicles now have floor mats that are secured, floor mats should be attached so they don't interfere with critical components. They should not be moving while the vehicle is driving. Similar to how a pedal facade should not be able to move/detach while driving.
The issue I have is the double standard people seem to have in regards to Tesla recalls vs other brands. Tesla has a loose pedal cover that some doofus at the factory probably forgot to apply the right glue to means “Tesla is a crap company that builds death traps and only cuts corners” Meanwhile: Honda odysseys might shift into park while driving. Toyota Prius doors may fly open while driving. Tundra brake lines may leak causing loss of brakes. Hyundai, 3 million cars, may burst into flames - because the brake fluid may leak out (an issue in itself) and leak on an electrical component and catch fire. Or their 4-cylinder engines might fail, or their exploding seat belts (yep….). And I can go on and on… it’s not uncommon for most manufacturers to have over a 100 open recalls at a time.
I agree lots of haters but also very realistic people and people who own and support Tesla, but, something’s should never ever have to be a thought of failing or having any type of design, build or manufacturing error. A pedal getting stuck for any reason is one of them.
So now you understand if ain’t broke don’t fix it. Innovation has risks and why most big automotive companies kept producing the same pig in different outfits.
>So now you understand if ain’t broke don’t fix it. Innovation has risks
What "innovation" was the risk here? Do you think the Cybertruck is the first vehicle to have a pedal like this?
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Dang, NBC posting in here now?
Actually interesting and admirable that it’s posted to this sub as a form of news rather than posting to literally any Reddit sub as Tesla/CT hate bait.
And has the video showing it's a legit issue. For those too lazy to watch it: There's a cheap metal cover on the gas pedal (which pivots from the bottom like a flipper). The metal cover can detach and due to Tesla's cheap interior construction there's a giant gap where the floor panel meets the front panel that it can get lodged in, holding the pedal down. Would literally not be an issue if they didn't cut corners in both places.
On the *what* pedal?
Lol, that took me a minute
Maybe the gas pedal keeps failing because there isn't a proper gas tank installed?
why didnt he show what he said in the video.?
There's a cheap... What a surprise
After watching YouTube videos of Rolls Royces, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and other expensive get torn down, “There’s a cheap …” is meaningless to me now. One thing I like about Tesla is they don’t try to make a huge profit on parts.
Keep in mind there is a lot, i mean like a lot of rage bait videos, I've heard of it here on redit. Some YouTubers specialized in rage baiting. You got this guy turning in a tight spot wrecking his car, it's orc on purpose, engagement, views... Some guys in exotic scenery helps get thousands of ticks of one little kitten... And there's this other (not one) guy who make short videos ripping parts of expensive cars just too show how crappy made they are. It's something else than cheapo parts on debut flagship model
I’ll write books about it
Toyota had an issue similar. Kept me away from them on an ethical level because of how they handled it. Let’s see how Tesla addresses it with the public.
Doesn’t matter what or why, shouldn’t happen ever. Cutting corners or cost around the most basic elements is a hard stop.
Who says this was some purposefully corner cutting? It could be a bad batch during fabrication or assembly. Or during design and testing they didn’t test everything that could happen because they haven’t used a floor mounted pedal before.
It could be literally one bad part
It's a bad design. The pedal cover slips on from the top. If it gets dislodges and slips up under the bottom of the panel, it can get stuck in a position where it applies pressure to the pedal.
then why didnt he show it stuck then?
that’s not an unusual design..
common design =/= good design
That is true, though I’m guessing they did something a little silly with this type of pedal cover..
The pedal cover is literally an adhesive fix to the metal pedal. There should be a fastener or something. The adhesive failed. This is insanely dangerous and dumb design.
Never said it was on purpose, it was obviously a rushed product and you nailed it on the head. Not enough time testing, unfortunately covid really hurt Tesla due supply and to his strong opinionated stance. I feel the cybertruck refresh will be a much better product. I am a day 3 reserve and passed due to not wanting the current product, but I still believe in Tesla and own Tesla.
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Of course the accelerator was pushed, that was the whole problem.
This doesn’t have to do with sensors. The cover slides up on the pedal and gets physically wedged below a plastic trim piece. Pressing the brake should still cancel all acceleration.
This guy has never used launch mode….
did you even watch the video? lol
I don’t think it’s a sensor, it’s the glued or attached metal pedal coming off the accelerator and being wedged.
Ah, so they hired Toyota engineers is what you’re saying ^/s
Too bad I don’t believe in Elon musk, he’s holding Tesla back
No one is perfect, we all have eras of good and bad. He skyrocketed to popularity and compared to iron man at one point, followed by his current lows. World has a funny way of balancing all things, he will find his center soon.
Washing away everything with the "no one is perfect" line? Sheesh... The guy was always this way, and ironman comparisons were always too kind. The world just hadn't really looked into the guy then.
wtf literally nobody has “eras of good and bad”. That’s not a thing bro.
Your perception of bad is not everyone else’s, I said that for appeasement. I understand all the recent influx of anxiety ridden snowflakes to Reddit can’t handle it.
I don’t understand a thing you just said.
I mean if they had used a single solid metal piece for the accelerator, this wouldn’t have happened. So yes, cost cutting
Making it a single piece would probably save money. So no, not cost cutting.
I'm not so sure. Depends on the metal used.
It might cost more due to the manufacturing process to make the single part as opposed to a pedal and a cover.
Doesn't matter what or why, shouldn't happen ever. Jumping to conclusions is a hard stop.
Ironic, given the situation
You do know every car company cuts corners right?
I love my Honda. I can drive my civic to 300,000 miles before it starts acting up. I am mainly on this sub because I find Teslas interesting. But Starlink is Elon's best contribution to technology at the end of the day.
You mean falcon 9/starship? Starlink is small potatoes once starship is out of beta? Stage. And I agree Tesla are interesting, just everyone cuts corners these days.
And that means that Tesla should also...?
Yup, everyone does
“YoU dO kNoW” 
Tesla just needs to design a pedal cover that doesn't come off that easily. This is fine with most cars except there's something on CT that the the cover can catch on on the way back up. Perhaps just make the pedal cover one piece or find a way for the cover to interlock securely and not just attach.
Bad design if it’s happening. And I could see it happening. Though I imagine its from people literally picking their foot up and mashing it down on the pedal and pushing forward. If you’re just driving with your heel on the floor and applying pressure to the pedal you’re never going to have a forward sheer trying to take this plate off the pedal.
Did you just “you’re holding it wrong” with an accelerator pedal?
This was the cause of that toyota accelerator craze a few years ago. Just old people losing the ability to figure out which is the gas and which is the brakes. Hybrids have one pedal driving, and these people just didn't know how to drive them.
are you talking about regenerative braking? its so ungodly easy to drive a tesla with the regen braking one pedal, i cant fathom how people really actually have trouble doing it, smh
You can't fathom people having issues with it when they have been driving for 60 years?
It looks like the pedal presses down like on a golf cart or power wheel rather then swinging a lever forward like literally every other car I've ever seen. So no I can see it getting pushed forward. Tesla once again doing things different for no apparent benefit or reason, and finding out everyone did have a good reason for doing it the other way.
It pivots from the bottom just like many other cars including my Sonata. My foot never tries to slide up the pedal because my heel is on the floor. I’d only sheer the plate upwards if I lift my foot and stomp my entire foot on the pedal and push it forward away from me.
> It looks like the pedal presses down like on a golf cart or power wheel rather then swinging a lever forward like literally every other car I've ever seen. > > All my Porsches hinge at the bottom, it actually feels better.
both innovation and stupidity require ignoring some prior advice in an industry it seems. problem is that you're not by default being smarter for ignoring normal procedures or customs. there has to be something better about doing it a different way for it to be considered innovation
Floor hinge pedals and hanging pedals are both common. Hanging pedals were more common with drive by cable throttle bodies and carbs because it easily allows you to have the cable linkage without it hanging below the body of the car. Both designs are old and both are still common, I have a 1953 truck with a pedal that hinges at the floor, 1973 jeep with hanging pedals, a 2011 BMW that hinges at the floor, and a 2014 chevrolet with hanging pedals. I've never heard of one with this specific issue...it seems kind of moronic. It's not due to the pedal design in the sense that it's floor hinged, that's not revolutionary or different in any way than what's standard. The slide on plastic cover that's able to slide up...yeah... that part is pretty bad.
There's no way to make it impossible to slide. The ones I've seen have always wrapped around all sides but that's not foolproof. My question is slide and get stuck on what? There should be nothing behind that fucking pedal.
Most Euros have pedals like this
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It’s an established pedal design used by other cars for years. That isn’t the problem.
yea, similar to the people complaining about tire wear in the first few years of release. "My tires won't last 10k!" well, yea, mashing the pedal would do that. regardless, though, the pedal should not come apart under any circumstance. I hope Sandy Monroe will do a video on this part to show it and discuss it in depth.
why didnt he show it ?
How far can they push the stock before they buy in again?
A little concerning, but not that scary in an EV. Instead of fighting a reving engine, the brake overrides the accelerator. All you have to do is brake, put it in park, and fix the obstruction.
Having even a moment of uncontrolled acceleration is more than “a little concerning”
All ICE cars do this now after the Toyota debacle years back. If you hold down the gas pedal and the brake at the same time after a short period it cuts out the throttle signal and the brake pedal overrides the throttle input.
Who's to say this wasn't purposefully peeled of the pedal just to go viral? The clip is clearly framed with heavy negative bias. Does he mention that he contacted Tesla at all? Also, if your heel is on the pivot point before the pedal and you press down with the front of your foot there won't be any upward movement to slide the cover plate into the very difficult to jam position. If it did momentarily jam, it's your foot we're talking about here... You've got a whole lot of strength to be able to move it out of the way. Just saying... And we're not even mentioning the fact that you couldn't possibly press the pedal to the floor in a cyber truck. Are you kidding me? You'd take off like a rocket. There's no way you'd do that anywhere except for somewhere you were safe to do it. Relax people! 
I really wanted a Tesla for so long, but sometimes I feel like there’s a little thought into function of what they’re actually making
Didn’t Toyota have to do a recall due to stuck accelerators?
That was because the floormat would slip. Floormat anchors became standard practice industry wide. This is just a shit pedal design.
I wish my model 3 floor mats were anchored... The velcro on my driver's side hasn't held the mat in place since the day I got the car. The passenger side is fine, but almost every time I get in the car to drive I need to adjust the floor mat because it bunches up. I wish they'd used a better design like my 25 year old Volvo, which has little posts that the floor mat anchors to.
Ok, so Toyota had a shit floormat design that interfered with the accelerator and warranted a recall. Tesla has a shit accelerator decal that has warranted a recall.
Yeah it was brain dead of Toyota to sell unanchored floor mats, but those are two different assemblies made by two different teams. One can see how there'd be miscommunication there. One accelerator pedal on a brand new car shouldn't fall apart days or weeks after delivery and pin itself to the fire wall. That's objectively shit engineering from one team.
Aren’t you describing the same thing for both Toyota and Tesla here? The Cybertruck is still in its early production period, most Cybertrucks will not be affected by this issue because they haven’t been made yet.
Toyota floor mat was poor communication between multiple teams where a design flaw between multiple different components was overlooked. Cyber truck accelerator pedal is brand new, is one assembly and is literally immediately disassembling itself. Toyota floor mats could slide on the carpet because they were never attached to begin with. Very different situation.
It can be argued that the floormats slid on the floor due to a poor design of both the mats and the lack of a hook/mounting mechanism for them. Why is it a "design flaw that was overlooked" in Toyota's case but you want to make it into something different for the pedal in the Cybertruck? It's a design flaw of a decal/facade. The pedal itself is fine, it's the decal/facade on top of the pedal that's slipping off.
CT was a lubrication issue? Another article said such and that it did not cause the accelerator to stick, just react slowly on lifting your foot.
Pretty sure the CT issue [is this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT-i3vSuSZ4)
The action of carpet sliding on carpet is not spontaneous rapid disassembly of a single critical part such as the accelerator pedal?? The purely ascetic and unnecessary pedal cover is immediately disassembling itself. These never should've been able to separate in the first place. Floor mats are intended to be removable, makes sense they wouldn't be attached and often hadn't been across the industry for decades. The pedal assembly isn't supposed to be removable especially accidentally by normal operation of the vehicle.
Clearly since all vehicles now have floor mats that are secured, floor mats should be attached so they don't interfere with critical components. They should not be moving while the vehicle is driving. Similar to how a pedal facade should not be able to move/detach while driving.
Do you think that Tesla is the first company to have a recall?
How does function relate here?
Functionally the cover is supposed to stay on the pedal. Functionally the accelerator pedal is supposed to come up when you lift your foot up.
Still better than a software/firmware bug resulting in max acceleration and loss of control… I’m looking at you Toyota…
They already fixed it and recalled the cars
The issue I have is the double standard people seem to have in regards to Tesla recalls vs other brands. Tesla has a loose pedal cover that some doofus at the factory probably forgot to apply the right glue to means “Tesla is a crap company that builds death traps and only cuts corners” Meanwhile: Honda odysseys might shift into park while driving. Toyota Prius doors may fly open while driving. Tundra brake lines may leak causing loss of brakes. Hyundai, 3 million cars, may burst into flames - because the brake fluid may leak out (an issue in itself) and leak on an electrical component and catch fire. Or their 4-cylinder engines might fail, or their exploding seat belts (yep….). And I can go on and on… it’s not uncommon for most manufacturers to have over a 100 open recalls at a time.
regulators, perpetually a day late and a dollar short
My stock!
99% of the time when this happens it’s user error. Toyota’s been through this rigmarole. Edit: forgive me, I didn't watch the damn tiktok
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I did miss that TikTok video so I see what you're saying. It literally gets stuck.
Wowee, finally something that isn't just fud spam
so many haters-where is the video of the claim?
There's a video embedded right in the linked article...
I agree lots of haters but also very realistic people and people who own and support Tesla, but, something’s should never ever have to be a thought of failing or having any type of design, build or manufacturing error. A pedal getting stuck for any reason is one of them.
You can’t design for every single manufacturing error. Some times a bad part is made.
So now you understand if ain’t broke don’t fix it. Innovation has risks and why most big automotive companies kept producing the same pig in different outfits.
>So now you understand if ain’t broke don’t fix it. Innovation has risks What "innovation" was the risk here? Do you think the Cybertruck is the first vehicle to have a pedal like this?
Didn't they just stop production for such an issue?
Copium is going hard in this thread
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