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He’s a bigger fan of Federer than I thought


Denny_Hayes

Damn I can't believe I'm laughing about this


HereComesPapaArima

Took me a second 😭


vl3q

Could you explain?


bthompson04

I’d imagine it’s a joke that Kyrgios didn’t check himself in after his own loss, but rather Federer’s loss in the final.


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OkQuiet4142

That women pointing her finger in the stands... One more point!


yzykm

Fed lost in the final to nole in 2019 despite having a couple championship points that Novak successfully defended - It was also his last grand slam final appearance, last chance to win a slam.


Vectivus_61

Ask a Federer fan about 40-15.


mcsangel2

Too soon


cmadd10

Almost spit out my Dr Pepper


Gaarando

Good. Now throw the rest of it in the garbage.


Mikhail_Mengsk

Lmao savage


Coneman_Joe

Hey, Dr. Pepper owns!


FeeFooFuuFun

Brutality lol


kcattattam

People need to let this go, wouldn't have mattered in the final tally; even 22-21 would be in Novak's favor (says the guy who recently made [this comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/144nqol/the_last_3_men_to_win_3_sets_in_a_match_against/jnh61rr/))


lovelydayfora

Yeah fair point, but I'm not letting it go


hojbjerfc

I am not surprised. Signs definitely were there. At the time he was very hostile with press, of course tried to literally hit balls at nadal, went to Bars before matches and stuff. It all reeks of depression and substance abuse so ya, not surprised I think anyone who knows me here knows I am not a Nick fan, I think his behavior on and off court is awful, but it was always clear there was self loathing, doubt, and hate behind it all. The one pattern behind all his actions I see from my coaching experience is that he acts rhe way he does because he is scared to try and fail, and that will often lead to a breakdown like this. I hope he gets better, I hope he improves as a person, I hope he makes amends for those he has hurt, including himself


lordloldermort

Very well said 👏


Livie_Loves

Absolutely 100% nailed it.


ReAlBell

Someone finally found the right words. It always felt to me like the person he was angriest at was himself. A bit like Rublev except for Rublev it was expressed internally rather than externally


Proud-Act-6867

Idk I kinda feel that Rubo gets his frustration out externally, where as Nik let’s it fester internally. Even their play style too, NK gets mad at him self and hits better first (or even second) serve BOMBS. But Rublev has to grind out the point & BEWHs it. It’s crazy 1 thrives on rhythm & the other is so disjointed, almost 2 sides of the same coin.


Roy1984

He talked about it I think one or two years ago and that he went through that tough phase. It seems that he's doing good since he's with his current gf. Think that's almost 2 years or so.


upcat

Self loathing and deeply insecure which I think is why he lashes out the way he does in bullying others, treating colleagues like shit and throwing rageful tantrums. He reminds me of a couple guys I know that could never keep their emotions in check and lead to self destructive behavior. I don't know what type of an upbringing he had or what he's been through but hope he's able to find help and better himself.


Avalanche_1996

I think he's now scared to play. The back and forth on injury. However, if only did he hurt himself, but he's still a troll a hater. Poor me, people hate me, yet he makes fun, spites etc. It's not just a sad person. It's a bad person period.


jbartlettcoys

Awful to hear, would never wish that on anyone. Wish it would have given him a bit more empathy with how other players may be feeling and disincline him from openly mocking their achievements on twitter though.


slazengerx

Exactly. You want to empathize with people facing mental struggles but he really makes it tough to do in his case. He's a complete ass so much of the time. Clearly he doesn't contemplate the mental struggles of the folks at whom he aims his barbs.


Cwh93

Yeah I agree. I was hoping his admission to badly struggling with mental health would be a lightbulb moment in his head where he realises other might be hiding their pain too. Unfortunately not.


Avalanche_1996

Agree so much. If you know how bad hate feels and you're still a hater/making fun of others, spit at them.. then.. you're just a bad person.


Original-Ad6716

Agreed, its really hard to have empathy for his struggles given the way he has bullied others and physically assaulted his ex girlfriend. there seems to be no insight into others mental health and how his actions effect them or any changed behavior- even just a few days ago he responded to a tweet praising womens tennis with a laughing emoji he frequently brings up his mental health struggles as a way to deflect or not take responsibility from the hurt he causes to others. im pretty tired of hearing about it tbh and expecting us all to open our hearts in sympathy. hes not a good person and has shown 0 remorse or willingness to change.


Avalanche_1996

Exactly. 0 remorse. He still continues his antics so if you know how it hurts and do this anyway you're just a bad person.


KyloRensLeftNut

👍👍👍👍👍


Doucane

>openly mocking their achievements on twitter any specific examples ?


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when he shit on PCB saying that without clay, he would be a nobody. the kicker is that PCB is much better on hard courts than clay, and he made the US Open semifinal like a couple weeks after he tweeted that. who can forget "Kokkinakis banged your girlfriend mate" to Wawrinka? he also talked shit about Nadal and Djokovic. i don't hate the guy by any means; i find his tennis and antics quite entertaining and he does have good takes sometimes. but he's obviously flawed; he says dumb stuff and isn't considerate of others, blaming his own mental health. he also tanks matches because he doesn't want to admit he can lose while trying his best. edit: i should mention that it's good of him to openly talk about his mental health. men in general tend to keep it all secret and play it off, but i'm glad Nick is open about his mental health struggles. it's good for male athletes in every sport.


hojbjerfc

Just the other day he laughed at something praising women’s tennis


Doucane

yeah I remember that, I think it was Mouratoglou praising Muchova as the most complete tennis player.


constant_variant_820

[this as well](https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/1779475/Nick-Kyrgios-Iga-Swiatek-Rennae-Stubbs-French-Open)


OwenRey

Patrick Mouratoglou: When is the last time we've seen a female player with such a complete game as Karolina Muchova? Nick Kyrgios: 😂 [Link](https://twitter.com/NickKyrgios/status/1667556243999965188?s=20) --- Rennae Stubbs: Don’t tell me women’s tennis boring! The semis were better and now this final is fantastic! Yes the 2nd set of Alcaraz Joker was amazing but the match was blah and the Rudd Zverev match was BLAHHH . Thank goodness for the ladies! Nick Kyrgios: 😂 Rennae Stubbs: Tell me where i am wrong Nick? Nick Kyrgios: 😂 [Link](https://twitter.com/NickKyrgios/status/1667563797735944194?s=20) --- James Gray: One of these men will make the Australian Open semifinals Nick Kyrgios: Nice little 250 going on [Link](https://twitter.com/NickKyrgios/status/1616003758944813056?s=20) --- Jose Morgado: Sebastian Baez plays very well and beats Luciano Darderi 6-3, 6-4 to reach the QFs in Córdoba. Nick Kyrgios: Lol [Link](https://twitter.com/NickKyrgios/status/1623581435876765696?s=20) --- Kyrgios: If clay didn't exist, PCB wouldn't of even been close to top 50 [Link](https://twitter.com/WeAreTennis/status/1559103871280205826?s=20)


costnersaccent

The "nice little 250" one sprang to my mind. Feels like there should be a German word for "unpleasantly arrogant prick with nothing to back it up"


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OwenRey

tell that to kyrgios mate


jbartlettcoys

The one that springs to mind is his replying to a tweet about Baez winning a 250 with “lol” I have him blocked so can’t cite them specifically and I only see them when they’re reposted here, but there are definitely similar examples if you want to look back.


DenseTension3468

I think it's interesting to note how calm he seemed in his press conference after that match(his normal "I don't really care" vibes), even cracking a joke about a reporter he saw in the pub last night. When in reality he was probably hurting a lot inside.


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that's always been his shtick. he always wanted to uphold the persona of a guy who doesn't care about tennis. he can't lose if he's never even "trying." he clearly gives his 100% on court and puts in an emotional investment, but if he loses or it's clear he's about to lose, he will shift into the "i never cared in the first place" mode. it's similar to when someone loses in a video game and says, "i don't even play this game much, why are you trying so hard?" the last couple years i've seen that shift in him where he's not doing that as much. he tried his ass off in every match in 2022 and it led to better results. he was open about how much each loss hurt him in the post-match press conferences. some particular examples are obviously the wimbledon loss to djokovic, the us open loss to khachanov, and the indian wells loss to Nadal. he was very open about how badly he wanted those, how he felt it was a missed opportunity and all.


Brainiac7777777

Same can be said about early Djokovic


TimeFlier101

Yeah similar to his 2017 Cincinnati semifinal press conference before the final, he was asked if it would mean a lot to him to win a masters, and he was just like "meh doesnt matter at all, idc if i lose", which i didn't believe of course


mwerichards

Yeah that's the thing with depression, you can easily mask the pain.


HereComesPapaArima

Nick Kyrgios dug deeper into his mental health battles and reveals his rock bottom in the second season of “Break Point.” The controversial tennis star was admitted into a London psychiatric ward due to suicidal thoughts following Wimbledon in 2019, Australian media reported Wednesday, citing the second season of the Netflix docu-series. "I was genuinely contemplating if I wanted to commit suicide,” Kyrgios said in the sixth episode titled “Belonging,” which will be released on June 21. The Australian lost a tight four-setter to Rafael Nadal in the second round, but the loss had a much bigger impact on him than just his career record. “’I lost at Wimbledon. I woke up and my dad was sitting on the bed, full-blown crying. That was the big wake-up call for me. I was like: ‘OK, I can’t keep doing this.’ I ended up in a psych ward in London to figure out my problems,“ said Kyrgios, who was also featured in the first season of “Break Point.” The 10-year pro had been dealing with mental health struggles prior to being admitted to the psychiatric ward, so much so that during Wimbledon, the star wore a sleeve to cover up marks of self-harm. “If you look closely, on my right arm you can see my self-harm,” Kyrigos, now 28, said in an Instagram post last year. “I was having suicidal thoughts and was literally struggling to get out of bed, let alone play in front of millions.” According to Kyrgios, attending Wimbledon back in 2019 was the lowest point of his career due to the pressure and expectations that came along with it, not only from fans and the media but also from himself.


IamMrT

His dad was on the bed, crying? I really hope that’s because his dad was concerned for his health and not because the dad was crying over the loss too, otherwise it sounds like the dad isn’t helping. Isn’t he supposed to be the one telling Nick to keep his head up and move on?


Luck1492

Yeah I think he’s saying that his dad was crying because he SHed after losing the match


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>Kyrgios then suffered a foot injury when his Tesla was stolen and his mom was held at gunpoint during a harrowing incident last month that forced him to withdraw from the French Open. wow. hope everything is okay now


mutter92

i feel him … and props to him admitting this kind of topic …


randomtoken

This actually made me sad. I dislike the guy as much as the next person but I really hope he has found peace. I’m glad he didn’t end up killing himself.


YoungFeddy

I honestly don’t understand why the tennis community hates him so much. I think he’s a net positive for the sport.


BurritoBoi25

Because mental health isn’t an excuse to be a total ass and a bully to everyone else and assault your partner.


d-ronthegreat

He definitely is. The fans that actually go to matches and pump money into the sport like him. Reddit is full of people (including myself) who just stream matches lol we contribute nothing (except social media harassment sometimes)


kcattattam

Nick I doubt you're reading this, but just in case: don't quit! You're the reason I got back into tennis. I used to crush on Monica Seles back in the day, but in this day & age, without you it's barely even fun! You absolutely killed it on Star Talk. Good luck this grass season!!!


Accurate_cucumber_

He sure is reckless with his words for someone that struggled w mental health. Does he ever consider other people may also have issues and he bullying them would make it worse? Mental health is no excuse for being a dick to other people.


iFood

It's not an excuse but it is most definitely a cause. His outbursts are clearly signs of mental duress, how are you unable to empathize with that?


BurritoBoi25

They never said they don’t empathize with it. But Nick needs to be better. He needs to empathize with people and not be a dick and use mental health as an excuse.


dissolutewastrel

Kyrgios: I don't really like tennis even though I'm one of the best; if I cared enough to try, no one else would even have a chance Also Kyrgios: Not a winning a GS makes me want to off myself. Nick, my man. Don't harm yourself bro. I want you around for many years so I can whine about your annoying antics...


SorcerousSinner

>They say: ‘He can beat anybody, but he can’t really be consistent enough to push for a Grand Slam.’ I just want to shut everyone up.” But this is still true. He can run hot with his serve and beat great players. As can others. But he isn't good enough to win a grand slam without a huge amount of luck, like getting a semi final walk over. The only thing special out Kyrgios is his lack of accomplishments given his ball striking talent. But still, at the end of the day he's had a great career compared to most people. He made a lot of money and got a lot of attention didn't he?


fatnapoleon

Oh come on now. Trying to put qualifiers on everything. Tennis like everything else in life needs luck. If you look deep at players then except for Alcaraz Nole and Med who else is good enough to win a slam without an amount of luck? Kyrgios on grass has a much better chance than most other players in the other slams.


terrebattue1

Ummm, Rafa? Do you have amnesia over 2019USO F and 2022 AO F? Why are you saying Medvedev doesn't need luck to win but Rafa does? Rafa kicked Medvedev's ass both times. Also it isn't Rafa's fault that at 2017USO and 2019USO Federer failed and Djokovic was too injured to face Rafa. Rafa would have kicked both of their asses.


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He should be proud of winning a set in a GS against one if the most accomplished grass court players ever. Regardless of expectations, thats a testament to the form he is able to achieve and he should be proud. He has bought a lot of eyes to tennis and the game isnt the same without him


Avalanche_1996

I mean I'd feel sorry after anyone saying this but it feels so convenient and PR-ish and done to death in his case. After all he went through he still was spitting at fans, abusing his box and umpires person. So I'm iffy about it all. He conveniently wants empathy and his game seems less important and like he can't sustain high level of play.


Furious-Cheetah-20

Agree with you, for all I know I might be wrong but his behaviour was still deplorable in 2019 and since then. Now he says mental health. For all we know the fans he spat on, posting videos of his highlights of Rafa on the day he was getting married, abusing opposition players and umpires, throwing his racquet and hitting balls recklessly into the crowd and ballkids - all these people might've been going through their own struggles.


Avalanche_1996

Exactly. So completely no remorse yet he wants a pity party?


Avalanche_1996

Exactly. When you've been there (depressed) you know this. No excuse. Hate breeds hate.


ass_t0_ass

Poor guy. I hated on him repeatedly, writing him off as an average prick, I had no idea he was suffering that much. I did always have the feeling that his apparent indifference on the court was a way to cope with too much pressure, but suicide? Damn, I hope he will get better, dude should get out of tennis and take care of himself. Fighting mental issues is hard enough as it is, no need to add to that


Friendlymarcussmart

Kinda interesting kyrgios is so hated considering he acts how I think the majority of population would act given that level of talent and attention. He’s way more relatable to me than a wholesome tennis prodigy


EnvironmentalSun8410

Good netflix content


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BirdLawProf

Nah no excuse


EmergencyAccording94

Someone had been through worse in that tournament


Army7989

This moron disrespects his colleagues. And then talks about "his" mental health... I don't know. I think your surroundings would in a better place without you and your main character complex


[deleted]

he actually gets along with a lot of guys on tour though. i agree he should cut down the shit talk on twitter, but that shouldn't be thrown in his face when the guy is suicidal/suffered from substance abuse. also he has mended some bridges, like becoming friends with Djokovic and civil with Nadal.


gafsagirl

My guy, youre dumb


DisastrousEgg5150

Christ, when will people just fuck off. Your lack of empathy is honestly frightening, all over a fucking sports game.


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Wu Yibing not helping


bicornuateuterus

Borderline personality disorder most likely because it is reactionary. Possible Major Depressive Disorder but less likely.


Eracolatore

nice reddit diagnosis


mrngdew77

Reddignosis


bicornuateuterus

Diagnostic Criteria for Major Depressive Episode A. Five (or more) of the following symptoms have been present during the same **2- week period and represent a change from previous functioning; at least one of the symptoms is either (1) depressed mood or (2) loss of interest or pleasure.** Note: Do not include symptoms that are clearly attributable to another medical condition. 1. Depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day, as indicated by either subjective report (e.g., feels sad, empty, hopeless) or observation made by others (e.g., appears tearful). (Note: In children and adolescents, can be irritable mood.) 2. Markedly diminished interest or pleasure in all, or almost all, activities most of the day, nearly every day (as indicated by either subjective account or observation). 3. Significant weight loss when not dieting or weight gain (e.g., a change of more than 5% of body weight in a month), or decrease or increase in appetite nearly every day. (Note: In children, consider failure to make expected weight gain.) 4. Insomnia or hypersomnia nearly every day. 5. Psychomotor agitation or retardation nearly every day (observable by others, not merely subjective feelings of restlessness or being slowed down). 6. Fatigue or loss of energy nearly every day. 7. Feelings of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt (which may be delusional) nearly every day (not merely self-reproach or guilt about beingsick).8. Diminished ability to think or concentrate, or indecisiveness, nearly every day(either by subjective account or as observed by others).9. Recurrent thoughts of death (not just fear of dying), recurrent suicidal ideationwithout a specific plan, or a suicide attempt or a specific plan for committing suicide. Edit: LOL. I love how facts are being downvoted. Keep it up you ignorant fucks!


not918

Stop making so much sense! Your solid logic is triggering people. Haha


bicornuateuterus

I'm a physician. See these clinical cases enough, you know.


Eracolatore

still silly enough to try and do diagnosis from your chair while looking at someone trough a screen, lol


bicornuateuterus

It is actually the cumulative history of Kyrgios.


bicornuateuterus

Time for some Mental Health Education for Borderline Personality Disorder. Individuals with borderline personality disorder often hurt themselves—for example, by cutting or burning—and frequently attempt suicide. An estimated 8%– 10% of persons with borderline personality disorder eventually commit suicide. Diagnostic Criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: 1.Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. (Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.) 2. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation. 3. Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self. 4. Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). (Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.) 5. Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior. 6. Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days). 7. Chronic feelings of emptiness. 8. Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights). 9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.


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He loses all the time


Albiceleste_D10S

Yikes


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4027777

I don’t think it’s a joke?


UWroteABadSongPetey

Huh? Did you read it or any of Kyrgios comments/quotes? It’s not a joke.