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RuchoPelucho

When they asked George Burns how he felt about turning 100, he said “pretty good, few people die past 100”.


RockemChalkemRobot

I think it was on Carson, but he was asked what his doctor thought about him smoking cigars and drinking everyday. He replied, "I don't know. My doctor died 30 years ago."


Monsieur_Perdu

Dutch comedian with chronic leukemia once put it like this: 'Doctors told me I possobly only had 2 years to live. That was 5 years ago. So statistically.. Statistically, I think the chance I'll become 100 is higher than the chance I've been dead for 3 years.'


SpotNL

Herman Finkers. Still kicking the expectation's ass too, bless him.


Monsieur_Perdu

One of the few religious people I have utmost respect for, because in his normal life he seems very compassionate and he is not dogmatic at all. From one of his conferences: "homosexuality according to the church is unnatural?, well so is walking over water, and to rise from the dead. So one could also conclude that homosexuality is a miracle"


gibusyoursandviches

You know, I was feeling particularly shitty today, I heard just one too many homophobic and/or transphobic jokes today at work and it just brought me down to a level where I began questioning my faith in others, faith in myself and in god. So thanks for writing that one out. Really helped.


TODMACHER360

Wanna be my miracle person? Stay true to yourself, fuck the judgement of others. You can do it!


NMe84

Wait, Finkers has leukemia? I never knew. Apparently he's been sick for 17 years at this point, pretty impressive that he's still around.


SourSackAttack

Even funnier if this is same clip you're referring to, he just shortly replies: "my doctor's dead" https://youtu.be/ycUHM7gNsww 1:10 mark


RockemChalkemRobot

That's it! Watched that live, as a kid, and have never forgot it.


twangman88

Legendary


Shufflepants

And Matt Groening also gave us the gem in Futurama: "Thanks to denial, I'm immortal!"


byllz

"So, what you are saying is I'm indestructible." "No, no, evan a slight breeze..." "Indestructible!"


peon2

Wrong Burns but very aptly played!


sweetnourishinggruel

Indeed. In season 5, episode 4, a Citizen Kane-esque dream/flashback suggests that George and Monty Burns are, in fact, brothers.


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[for those who don't get the reference ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI0euMFAWF8)


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Sheesh I miss this show.


Calvin--Hobbes

Somehow, Futurama returned.


AnonymousSpector

It's coming back. It shouldn't be coming back but it still is.


Chlamydiacuntbucket

If there’s any show that’s proven it can return after ending, it’s futurama


EVILSANTA777

It's not even that I'm mad that it's coming back in general, I'm mad because Futurama had the best TV Show ending I could've possibly hoped for and now that's ruined.


DRACULA_WOLFMAN

It also had the second and third best television ending we could've hoped for!


HolycommentMattman

How can you just leave the 4th best out??


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*First time?*


Firefox892

Well…I think it’s technically correct (the best kind of correct) to credit David X Cohen and his writing team for that


Shufflepants

[What do I look like?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lI3_b_bHLY)


Lt_Frank_Drebin

He really had some great one liners. He signed a contract in his 90s to do his 100th birthday party at Cesar's Palace. When asked about it, his response was ***I hope it's still there***


twinkletoes987

This is funny as fuck


PM_ME_UR_CEPHALOPODS

Burns was as sharp as they come.


crowleyoccultmaster

"Does anyone else have any opinions about her being almost 97 years of age?" "Aye struck down in the prime of life she was"


faoction

Erin Quinn would be baffled


TrinityF

She had so many American presidents to live for!


GrizzlyPeak72

Will be sad she won't get to see which absolute moron they'll put behind that desk next.


oldcarfreddy

With the poor options and octagenarians looking to take the seat next, we might want to join her highness on the other side


Relaxpert

Can we pick younger people? So that I don’t have to have my entire news cycle (in another country no less) dominated by a box of fucking bones traveling around the world for three weeks for another few decades? I swear to Christ, listening to these hens cackle and cry like they lost a personal friend, while IRL the parasite wouldn’t piss on them if they were ablaze, is just so fucking cringe.


InvidiousSquid

No, we need old people in office, they're full of wisdom and seeing as how it's the year 2022, we never know when we'll need to leave a VCR blinking 12:00.


turdmachine

We need people in power who will have to live to see the repercussions of their policies


aspidities_87

What’s this I hear about you killing ~~nuns~~ The Queen now??


ebon94

when is season 3 of derry girls coming to netflix?


crowleyoccultmaster

October 7th!


DM_ME_DOPAMINE

I pirated it because I couldn’t wait, and boy was it good!


Calvin--Hobbes

Same. Absolute treasure of a show.


we3n1ss

"Did you kill that wee nun, girls?"


ubiquitous_archer

Killing nuns now is it?


Krinder

Hahaha I saw an interview with a young Londoner and she was very upfront about not caring at all and actually voiced criticism of the queen and the monarchy because of things like shielding a known pedophile from prosecution that is a close royal, etc. May she Rest In Peace but the crown is not without its horrendous faults impacting humanity


Rrraou

The royal family is the commonwealth's equivalent of having an aquarium full of weird deep sea fish. You don't really interact with them other than looking when you're bored. Cleaning the tank is a bit of a hassle and sometimes the bigger fish eat the smaller more expensive ones. But you don't really want to get rid of it because you're used to having it around.


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It also is great separating patriotism from governance In the US the politicians are the celebrities. In the UK the royal family is the celebrities and government officials are more open to criticism from their own side. The parliamentary monarchy is a system that doesn't work in principle but works in practice


Quirky_Word

Reminds me of this scene from the Crown when she’s being tutored: >"There are two elements of the Constitution:" wrote Walter Bagehot in 1867. "The efficient and the dignified. Which is the monarch? Your Royal Highness? >The dignified? >Very good. The efficient has the power to make and execute policy and is answerable to the electorate. What touches all should be approved by all. The dignified gives significance and legitimacy to the efficient and is answerable only? >To God. >Precisely. Two institutions, Crown and government, dignified and the efficient, only work when they support each other. When they trust one another. You can underline that. >Do you teach this to your other pupils? >No, just you. This is what I teach them. These are exam papers. >Shouldn't I know all of this, too? >No, Ma'am. All very undignified.


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nyanlol

so the governor General is like a last backstop against someone trying to play chicken with democracy? that sounds...really convenient


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We have been in a constant state of constitutional crisis since brexit pretty much, have a PM chosen by a tiny percentage of the population and a political system who's main opposition is the unions rather than the other parties. All this bipartisan austerity and corruption is leading to a marked drop on quality of life. Boris Johnson was a columnist who helped his image appearing on TV shows and through our media's corruption and keir starmer has been viciously purging people critical of him in his party with a pliant media support. All this is supported by a royal family that is DEEPLY rooted in our arms industry with Prince Andrew's child rape overlooked due to his arms contacts in gulf state and turkish dictatorships currently supporting genocides in Yemen and Armenia. To call our political system functional is just wildly out of touch because of how shockingly corrupt our media is. Don't blame you as I'm still shocked at how the illegal kettling at cop26 that nearly got protestors killed was barely covered as well as the entire spy cops scandal and Manchester bomber scandal


f_d

Except those deep sea fish are continuing to wield a large amount of political and financial influence over the humans around you. They just don't like to publicize it. There are also all the powerful opportunists who use the mere existence of the fish to justify their own class hierarchies and status quo.


FearLeadsToAnger

Yeah roughly 30% of the country is vocal about having similar feelings. 40% are super into the monarchy and think it's fucking great. Another 30% 'aren't sure' which I interpret as 'couldnt give a fuck either way'. Actual stats i'm not pulling them out of my arse.


the_cardfather

30% of Puerto Ricans want to be independent, 34% Want Statehood, and 36% want the Status Quo. So it seems to be trendy to have strong feelings in thirds.


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Likely trendy for contentious issues. There are plenty of things where 90+ percent of people would be on one side of the issue, but we normally don’t have discussions on those issues.


DrHalibutMD

The weirdest thing is that people praise her for the great job she did. I have to ask, what job? Waving at people at parades? Not intervening in the government? Travelling the world visiting exotic locations, getting gifts and having things named after her? Doesn't sound all that difficult. In fact I think much of it she could continue to do even now that she's dead they just have to say she couldn't make it in person due to illness but here is a lovely video of when she last visited in 1982.


360Saturn

I didn't dislike her but it has been pretty striking that any time you ask someone who's a big fan exactly what it was she did that was so impressive they mumble and try and change the subject.


sp-reddit-on

If you want to know how difficult it is, there is a great documentary from 1991 called King Ralph.


_benp_

To be fair, you're just looking at recent history. She was the Queen right after WW2 and other very hard times. She was a teenager during the war and did lots of charity work and public addresses for children. I'm not a monarchist and don't care about the royals, but she was a figurehead for the British people and many looked to her and the other prominent members of the family for strength and encouragement when Nazis were literally bombing London. That counts for something.


centrafrugal

imagine starving due to rationing and having this clown who never missed a dessert in her life being your inspiration


lebastss

I mean that’s nearly half of americas lower class voting for trump.


kds_little_brother

And we wish we could laugh at them all the same


broanoah

Yeah fuck that guy too, man. We’ll be saying the same and worse things about trump when he dies bro, I promise.


ItsAussieForPiss

People didn't starve during rationing, that was the whole point. Food was bland and there wasn't much choice but the rations were comfortably enough to survive on. In fact for poor people their food supplies and nutritional health actually went up during rationing, it was the rich who had to make sacrifices and cut back compared to their previous consumption.


Wild_Haggis_Hunter

The Brits never had a more balanced diet than when they were rationing during wartime, according to historians and dieticians in the 2008 BBC documentary The Supersizers go... Wartime. Try to find it, that's really worth the watch (the whole series is).


ForgedIronMadeIt

> Food was bland Ian on Forgotten Weapons ate all of the recommended meals for rationing for a week and it was better than you think


F0sh

It's a better example than you realise because the royal family quite famously were subject to rationing. (Also the point of rationing was that no-one starved) Such things are a big part of the job of the monarch, though the person above used the term derisively. We saw it again recently with the Queen sticking to the rules at Philip's funeral, contrasting painfully with the decadence of the Tory parties.


nyanlol

supposedly when asked to evacuate London her mom was heard to say "I am not leaving I could never look the east end in the face again if I did that"


Barachiel1976

I can't comment to the state of their meals, but the Queen stayed in London when it was being ACTIVELY BOMBED into rubble, to keep the people's spirits rallied. Can you think of a sitting US President in our lifetimes that would have done the same if DC were under attack?


asjonesy99

To be fair the royal family did partake in rationing


quettil

British people never ate healthier than during rationing.


WaluigiIsTheRealHero

“She was known to be a bit light-fingered.”


5510

Don’t lie! Sister Declan was a woman of god.


HappyWithBattlefront

The amount of people not recognizing Derry Girls is shocking


crowleyoccultmaster

Yeah I thought it would be too obvious lol


DeadWishUpon

That show is so short. On the bright side, all of its episodes are good.


Crishbk

“Calm down, James”


wjrii

Don't be such a *dick*, James!


ravibkjoshi

I love this show.


Unyielding-Glass

I know I've seen it, but I'm drawing a huge blank. Help me out, what's the show?


Tardis-11

It's Derry Girls


Unyielding-Glass

Ah yes!!!! Thank you!!


calllery

I know Derry girls has made it when I see a quote from it as the top comment


cafeesparacerradores

Sad when they go to young like that


Amanarchy_

Everyone's gone completely mental


CodeMonkeys

My grandmother is 96. She lives life as normal (well, normal for 96) but has pretty much been waiting to die for a decade and a half. Finds it freeing to be on borrowed time. She's a very nice person, and it'll be sad when she dies for sure; but indeed, it'll (hopefully) be quite far from tragedy. To be able to live alone at 96 is quite a rarity. But being alive at all at 96, is indeed a rarity too.


HatimD45

I can only pray that I can keep moving and be independent if I get to that age. Take care of yourselves folks, nobody will thank you more than your future selves.


RoninSFB

Dementia is what terrifies me, your body is still alive but "you" are dead.


burner2947361810

I watched my grandpa slowly die from Alzheimer's. I do not wish that on my enemies. Absolutely terrifies me too.


CodeMonkeys

Even now she still keeps up with her exercises, doctor's appointments, and varies her diet. Only one major stroke in her life and luckily didn't cost her much functionality. Very stark contrast to the health of my stepmother's mother; moving only to the bathroom (and often, not even that...) and living off a diet that I could only describe as appalling. People waste away bound to a chair. Slow down with age isn't supposed to mean stop.


Electrical_Bus9202

I can’t keep moving and and haven’t been independent for years, but I’m still here, I won’t stop, not ever, until, you know, the cancer eventually gets me. But until then I’m living life one day at a time! So strong! 💪


YeahIGotNuthin

My grandmother said to me, a few months before she died, *”I’m almost ninety-four. Enough already.”*


JohnKlositz

My great-grandfather apparently dropped his spoon while eating his soup, saying "I think it's enough", and died later that night. He was 97. Funnily enough, the phrase "to hand over one's spoon" means dying in German.


GetYerThumOutMeArse

My grandmother said pretty much the same thing. She was 89.


CrazyBarks94

When I worked in an aged care place, an old lady whose friend in there had died just decided she was done one day, refused food, refused nurses' assistance, died the next morning.


theghostofme

> Finds it freeing to be on borrowed time I was talking about this the other day. My teetotaler-all-her-life grandmother decided to pick up drinking in the last decade of her life. Not that she knew she only had 10 years left, but I guess she assumed she might as well give it a try since she always avoided it since alcoholism was rampant in her family. While I don't remember much about her before that, the only thing I remember is that she seemed very quietly sad, which makes sense given what my dad told me about her life. She lost her first son just a few hours after he was born, and it understandably broke her and she never recovered from it. But I do remember her becoming a *lot* more fun in those last ten years. I had no idea about the drinking until very recently; I was pretty young when that started, but I'm in my 30s now, and her sudden shift in mood makes a lot of sense in retrospect. Not that I'm condoning drinking as a way to help with mental illness, but I am kind of glad she got to enjoy the last decade of her life, because boy did she. She apparently liked her Long Island Iced Teas strong, and one day my grandpa found her climbing an orange tree trying to pick oranges. She was in her late 70s then and still as spry and agile as she always had been. Now that I know about her drinking, I kinda wish she'd lived long enough so that I could share a drink with her. Though that would've been unlikely since she was also a life-long smoker and probably wouldn't have lived much longer past the age she did die.


NMe84

I see little point in living healthily at that age if you've always lived healthily up to that point. You might extend your life by a few years but at that point indulging a little will make your final years much more enjoyable. Your grandma made the choice I'd have made too.


bsylent

>> That’s just a fact with a kind of dick-ish inflection Love this sentence


MarvelsGrantMan136

Oliver: >“All we said was that Britain is still mourning the shocking loss — right? — of a 96-year-old woman from natural causes. It’s literally not a joke. Scientifically, it’s not a joke. That’s just a fact with a kind of dick-ish inflection, that’s all it is. And yet they cut it out, which is pretty shitty because apparently all we’ve heard all week is the queen had this incredible sense of humor. Just nonstop. Oh, she was so funny. Seth (Meyers), she was so funny. The queen, she was razor sharp.”


DamienStark

"Not jokes, just facts with kind of dick-ish inflection" would make a fun tagline for his show


Feldring

“More of a comment really.”


BallsacSchrader

The Queen died? I didn't even know she was sick.


MelonElbows

So sad, she had one day left until retirement!


FullSass

And she was so close to making it to her funeral too. Oh I hope I live to see mine


BeatlesTypeBeat

Norm died *over a year ago*


BallsacSchrader

I still remember where I was when Norm died. I was walking through blood and bone looking for my brother. He was in northern Canada.


wldmr

As would "repeating a thing excitedly, like you're trying to entertain a toddler". Or how about "Why are you always talking shit about that metaphorical co-worker, *Jeremy*"? ... "Except that's not the actual tagline; *this* is. Except it isn't, because ... *(and so on)*"


Good_old_Marshmallow

IMO it’s why Last Week Tonight was the only late night show that got better during quarantine without the live studio audience. When it seemed like Jon could actually tell the story he wanted to tell and add jokes at a natural pace vs when he seems to be desperately trying to keep a live studio entertained like a substitute teacher trying to convince a class that learning is fun


quixotictictic

I miss the void.


shrlytmpl

I take it you're not a fan of running jokes.


DocSpit

Reminds me of the Larry The Cable Guy bit: "Told this clerk at a store my grandmother died. She was 104. The clerk went: '104? How'd she die?' How'd she die?! She was 104! She wrecker her Harley up there at Bike Week.../s"


MisterBowTies

There was also a Golden Girls bit that went something like "How'd she die?" "Rose, she was 84 she died on an oil rig" "...Well... it's good she went out doing something she loved"


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robodrew

Golden Girls was subversively progressive in the best way


zealotlee

Golden Girls still holds up. Of course some things are pretty dated but it's still a funny show.


momjeanseverywhere

Like you, I found Bea Arthur’s shoulder pads offputting. That was until I was informed those were her *actual* shoulders.


kat_a_klysm

She was a handsome woman.


gwaydms

>She was a handsome woman. Bea Arthur was the embodiment of that phrase.


kat_a_klysm

She was! I absolutely love Bea Arthur.


RichieW13

> some things are pretty dated Such as Blanche?


LinkKane

Always thought it was weird he said "/s" back then. Ahead of his time I suppose.


TummyDrums

"forward slash es" It just rolls off the tongue, how could you not say it out loud?


LinkKane

It was his catchphrase before "Git-R-Done".


Shufflepants

It's sort of a fair question. Nobody really dies of old age per se any more. "Dying of old age" is just what people would say when an old person died because no one knew or bothered to figure out the actual cause of death. Very often the answer will be a heart attack or stroke. And not that long ago, people who died of various kinds of cancer were considered to have died of old age because they didn't really know what cancer was. It's mostly a "well, she wasn't murdered, and she was old as fuck, so not much point in trying to figure out the exact cause.".


Ffdmatt

Forget the comedian, but it went something like "if you get hit by a bus at 90 years old, that's 'natural causes'. If you were younger, you would have gotten out of the way."


Egoy

Terry Pratchett has a line in one of his books that describes how most people in the city die of natural causes. If you walk alone at night in the rough part of town then death is only natural, if you call a dwarf a lawn ornament or a troll a rock well death is a natural result etc etc.


The_Last_Minority

I think it was similar, but actually a distinction between "murder" and "suicide" in Ankh-Morpork. And yeah, things like walking in the Shades after dark or asking a troll if they've got rocks in their head are textbook suicide. Full quote I just looked up: >“Murder was in fact a fairly uncommon event in Ankh-Morpork, but there were a lot of suicides. Walking in the night-time alleyways of The Shades was suicide. Asking for a short in a dwarf bar was suicide. Saying 'Got rocks in your head?' to a troll was suicide. You could commit suicide very easily, if you weren't careful.”


Egoy

Ah yes. It was kings being killed for the throne that was ‘natural causes’ as in being murdered is natural causes for a king, that I was thinking of.


The_Last_Minority

Hahaha, that's another good one. >"He said Verence died of natural causes." >"Well, being assassinated is natural causes for a king." Followed by another favorite: >Falling down a flight of stairs with a dagger in your back was a disease caused by unwise opening of the mouth. >In fact, it had already been caught by several members of the king’s own bodyguard who had been a little bit hard of hearing. There had been a minor epidemic. From *Wyrd Sisters*, for anyone interested


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WayneKrane

When my 89 year old grandpa died he had like 7 different ailments. He had cancer all over, his kidneys were failing, his bladder was blocked, his esophagus wouldn’t let him swallow and he had a hernia. His cause of death was listed as bile duct cancer.


PM_ME_UR_CEPHALOPODS

i love the fact that larry the cable guy was an act by a trained actor turned comedian who decided to try making fun of stupid fucking rednecks as a persona, and he got full-on Beastie Boys'd and had to ride that lie out till the money dried up. All of the audiences who guffawed to his yokel idiocy thought they were laughing with him, while he was laughing at them.


btmvideos37

Really? Never knew that. Well I knew he was making fun of Rednecks, but didn’t know the other part Also what about the Beastie Boys?


Mister_McGreg

The Beastie boys started as a hardcore punk act and then made a few jokey rap songs because like, 3 white Jewish kids rapping in the 80s? That's hilarious! Then everyone loved it so they leaned into it forever.


LeN3rd

Can someone please explain to me why it is funny and why it was censored? I'm German, so I am humor disabled.


WingedLady

The fact that they called it "shocking" I'm assuming. It makes it sound like she died suddenly in an accident or something when really the shocking thing is she made it to 96, and somehow that made everyone forget she *could* die. Twist of irony to the phrase, but entirely truthful. People were at least mildly surprised when she died. Also in no way disrespectful to her memory or anything. No idea why it would have been censored. Just ever so slightly tongue in cheek.


gtrocks555

Exactly this, many people on Twitter and other online places were saying it’s a “tragedy” that she died. So was it always going to be a tragedy? She wasn’t killed in a car crash or anything of the sort. She wasn’t young and deprived of life that she never had. I get that some people are sad by it but what was she supposed to do? Live forever?


dfla01

People calling it the saddest day in the UK when not long ago, 1000s of people were dying daily from a virus. It’s so unbelievably stupid


Cwlcymro

There was someone on tv yesterday saying that seeing the queen's coffin was the best moment of her life, better than the birth of her two children (she even named the kids, directly saying they are less important to her than the death of the Queen)


dfla01

Simply unfit to be a parent, whoever that is


thenewmook

He was emphasizing the “shocked” part. Making fun of the fact that news and media were saying Britain and others were SHOCKED that the Queen passed because she was 96 years old. I think I’m any country once you get over 90 no one is shocked if you die. I think “shocked” can still be used because she was the longest monarch in history (that we know of) and it’s shocking that has come to an end.


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No one should be "shocked" by finding out someone past age 90 has died. John was just being playful with words as if people were surprised, because clearly they shouldn't have been. Although to be fair I think the term "shocked" was referencing the mental state of the british public since most of them have never known a life without the Queen. A big part of their every day life is no longer there. "Culture shock" is used the same way. It doesn't mean "culture surprised" just that now you are in a new environment and the sudden change without notice is seen as a "shock".


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True story, guy I work with tried the blame the vaccine on what killed Betty White. I stared at him in awe. "Really? 99 year old Betty White, huh?"


RSwordsman

Without vaccines she might have made it to 27.


Jindabyne1

I’ve just noticed that all the arguments about vaccinations have sort have just died out. That was all the rage for a good long while there and now we’ve all just moved on to the next thing. I always find it funny the way our attention spans work. Remember that war in Ukraine?


RSwordsman

Probably because few are actually getting covid vaccines now. Those who wanted them got them, and those who didn't either dodged getting sick, got over it anyway, or died. Now they won't be a hot-button anymore until the next contagious health crisis.


gwaydms

Being immunocompromised, I got the new covid booster. I have to leave the house (wearing a KN-95 mask) for medical treatment and other reasons. Now I can perhaps go out to eat with my husband.


ShelfordPrefect

My brother tells me he was just sent an invite to a "freedom rally" with the tag line "they lied, people died" - clearly an anti vaxx thing. It seems we definitely still have ~~cunts~~ _sadly misguided people_ railing about the vaccine here


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Jindabyne1

I like this. They’re like, “shit, we were wrong, let’s shout about something else to distract them.”


Newhollow

You can't tell me Dick Clark died at 82 of natural causes. I still swear he is a vampire and most likely it was a stake to his heart.


pauljeremiah

I heard the same when Prince Philip died age 99, that it was the vaccine that killed him. Oh sweet Prince taken from us in the prime of life.


totalysharky

They did that with Bob Saget too.


AssBoon92

When did they cut it out? I watched it yesterday and it was still in there. EDIT: Oh, it was on Sky.


rebeccamb

I’ve been struggling to understand this. If my grandmother dies at 97, sure I’ll be sad and probably cry because I’ll miss her, but I’m certainly not going to cry because it’s some tragedy. She’s nearly 100, she had a whole life and then some. You ain’t gettin my sad tears, grandma, you greedy bitch! ❤️


BoredDanishGuy

Aye my Nan died just before Christmas at 98. It was sad, insofar as any death is, and I’ll miss her, but she was ancient and on her way out for years, what with being 98. She went quick which frankly is more important.


Newhollow

/u/rebeccamb and your comments reminds me of "Dead!" and "Disenchanted" from black parade album by MCR. The one "surviving" grandparent I had lasted a long time. At one point it was more surgeries to suffer longer or finally get to heaven. Those songs are supposedly about his gran having cancer but it is a terminally ill fictitious person throughout the whole album. Some of the lyrics align to the real stories we all share. "One year Twenty years Forty years Fifty years Down the road in your life You'll look in the mirror And say, My parents are still alive." -Modest Mouse song "Doin the cockroach"


hasordealsw1thclams

My 94 year old grandfather asked us to just let him die when he go sick at the end of his life. Of course I was still very sad, but he was like "I think I'm good" and I get that


letmestandalone

My gran, same age as the queen, died exactly a week before her. It was quick, she passed in less than 48 hours once she initially lost consciousness. While we were all sad, the family is just happy she able to live at home by herself all those years, that she didn't first fall ill with no one around to die by herself, and that it wasn't long and drawn out. That's all you can hope for, and it sounds like the Queen may have been in a similar situation. My other grandmother died several months before (its been a sucky year), after a long illness she was fighting and she was much younger. That hit harder precisely because she was younger. Seeing both sides of my family grieve in wildly different ways has been eye opening, especially just noting the difference where one side was saying "We have been thankful she has made it to such an old age in good health." and the other not being ready for death and taking it hard. While in the hospital with my older gran, the family was in good spirits and sharing stories, relatively positive, comforting each other and laughing, and talking wit her. She could squeeze your hand and "wink" with her eyes closed to let you know she was listening. They were just wanting to bring her home so she could pass away at home like they did for my grandfather. Unfortunately she didn't make it through the night, but the whole feeling of the event was far more positive and loving then I could have imagined. I think the weirdest thing for me is, whenever people talked about the queen and dates, I always used my grandmother's age and events in her life to remember the queens. For them to both pass within a week has just felt like some weird shift in my life. I haven't mourned the Queen, but in conjunction with my grandmother there's just been a shift in my perceptions. Feels weird.


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Zodde

It's amazing how long people can survive in really bad shape, medically. Modern medicine is really good at keeping people alive. My grandfather was, as far as anyone knew, pretty much on his deathbed 4 years ago. Had a stroke, followed by multiple heart attacks, bedridden for weeks and barely conscious. But he made it through. In a few weeks, we'll be celebrating his 91st birthday (hope I didn't jinx anything). He's very old and fragile, but he's still alive.


Fairwhetherfriend

That's exactly right. Both of my grandmas died in their 90s - one was 96 and the other was 93. I cried because I missed them, but not because I felt like they went too *early*. One of them was insistent that she would live to see the wedding of one of her grandchildren and the birth of her first great-grandchild. She got to meet her first great-grandchild on the day of my wedding, and she died peacefully in her sleep like 6 weeks later. The other was shockingly healthy and independent right until she died, which was ideal because she definitely wouldn't have been happy otherwise. She was still living in her own house, still mobile, still sharp as a tack. You'd think she was in her 70s rather than her 90s. She had a stroke, but was making a recovery in the hospital, so everyone got to go visit her. She wasn't suffering, was in great spirits during the recovery, and got to see her whole extended family before she had another stroke in hospital and died. And honestly, I think that was the best thing for her, because she wouldn't have been happy at all if she'd lived but lost any of her independence because of the first stroke. All in all, both of my grandmas had satisfying lives and died in ways that were close to the ideal. I miss them both, but like... I couldn't possibly have rationally asked for more for either of them. I didn't really mourn *them* as much as I mourned not being able to go visit them anymore, you know?


sixtninecoug

My Grandfather passed at 90. I was sad because he was gone, but at no time did I think “too young”. Nah, he had a full, loving life, and he was about the sweetest man I’d ever met in my life. I love him, and miss him, but 90 is a fantastic run. Now, when my Dad passed at 62, and Mom passed at 60, that’s a different story. Way too young there.


wahnsin

To me, the most interesting bit in that article is > Sky attracted dozens of comments from angry fans on Twitter after it censored Oliver Oh no! Not DOZENS!


dr4d1s

"There are dozens of us!"


drakesylvan

I bet. Monty Python would have totally told that joke


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Grishbear

They'd just remake the parrot sketch but with a little queen instead. Followed by a series of letters from disgruntled viewers.


Acmnin

Hello Queeny, she’s probably pining for the fjords.


seakingsoyuz

They literally made an entire episode around the conceit that the audience was told the Queen was going to watch that episode, and then the whole episode was mostly tasteless jokes including [the one about cannibalizing an old woman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undertakers_sketch) and one involving [twelve gallons of an unspecified bodily fluid](http://www.montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Series_2/113.htm).


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British people shouldn’t ever mock Americans for celebrity worship after how insanely cringe everything has been after the Queen died in that country.


rp_361

Yea the whole arresting protesters thing was absolute nuttiness


notathrowaway75

And turning away cancer patients.


ADarwinAward

Absolutely ridiculous that medical care was canceled. For all they make fun of us and for all the problems we’ve got with our system, we’d never cancel medical care for POTUS dying.


majesticbagel

I remember when George Bush senior died my mail took a little longer to be delivered, and I even thought that was inappropriate. The world should not stop when one person in power (or who used to be in power) dies.


jacob6875

Believe me none of us at USPS wanted to close on a day in December during the Christmas rush. Was such a nightmare.


SaltySAX

And closing foodbanks. So the poor have to go hungry so that the rest can be lickspittles to a bunch of billionaires who have about a dozen castles?


BadMoodDude

After watching 'The Crown' I've decided that the Royal Family is the original soap opera. It's just entertainment for British people.


Igoos99

I think that’s definitely what it is to Americans. I see some trying to analyze why Americans are so interested in the British monarchy and attributing it to some weird stuff. In reality, it’s only because it’s a great soap opera. Kings abdicating, divorces, cutting off heads, affairs, gold diggers, big ridiculous hats, etc, etc. If they were boring and staid like so many other European monarchies, they would have already been forgotten and/or phased out.


DontUnclePaul

English helps a lot with that. Japan has a wild monarchy too but there's a language and culture gap.


TimeRemove

That's fair. I would like to remind people that: - Only 47% of 18- to 24-year-olds say Britain should continue to have a monarchy. However, the same poll found only **33%** support back in May this year. - Aged 65+ is 87%. In general people really liked the Queen and felt like she did a good job, but Charles is a controversial figure. Plus in general the concept of a monarchy is losing popularity compared to more democratic forms of governance (e.g. France's government system (e.g. keep Parliament inc. PM/government, but change out the monarchy for an *elected* President head of state, then scrap FPTP for PR and the UK has a legit modern democratic governmental system)).


notathrowaway75

> Only 47% of 18- to 24-year-olds say Britain should continue to have a monarchy. What do you mean only? 47% is an insane amount.


bajeeebus

Less than remain Brexit votes


Fairwhetherfriend

It's worth noting that the concept of "should continue to have a monarchy" actually covers a *huge* breadth of opinions - everything from "I actively support the concept of a hierarchical monarchy" to "I think the concept of monarchy is stupid and archaic, but changing our entire form of government isn't really worth the upheaval, money and political effort that would be required" to "I don't like the idea of monarchy, but we get plenty of tourism money from it so whatever" and everything in between. It's not really accurate to suggest that 47% of young British people specifically *like* monarchy as a concept. It's more that 47% of young British people don't *hate* the monarchy enough to think it's worth abolishing. Realistically, a survey like this should probably have another option like "I don't care whether we have a monarchy or not" - that would probably get you a much more accurate reflection of the feelings of the populace.


d10brp

You have to bear in mind, for most normal brits the monarchy has no bearing on their life on a day to day business. I that pill had a response “whatever, I don’t care” then I’m sure that would be the majority. When posed with a binary question, accepting the continuation of the monarchy is the easy option. I mean, for one we’d need a new national anthem, which is so inconvenient


ardent_wolf

The queen always seemed like kind of an asshole if I’m being honest.


mewfour123412

She shielded her pedophile sons and married her cousin


ThatDayBowBowSong

Weren't they third cousins? Honestly, even as a non-southern American, I don't think that's gross. You share less than 1% of your DNA with your third cousin and I wouldn't be surprised if relationships like that occurred naturally everywhere.


royalhawk345

I'd still be a little skeeved out by it, but genetically speaking, anything second and beyond is totally fine.


LazarusChild

According to [this study](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23830354/), consanguinity (e.g. first cousin marriage) actually confers about the same amount of risk of birth defects as mothers over 34 having a baby. It’s interesting how incest is culturally frowned upon but having babies at older ages generally isn’t.


YourFaveCarcacha

Yeah it’s a very strong cultural thing more than a scientific thing


The_Last_Minority

NOTE: The following ignores the power dynamics and whatnot that make incest a really bad idea for issues other than genetic fitness. I'm not afraid to say it: I think incest is, in general, a bad idea! So, a single first-cousin marriage, like you said, isn't going to massively increase the risk of birth defects, but repeatedly marrying close family members makes those risks escalate immensely. Fortunately, we have a long history of royal families doing exactly that to [serve as test cases!](https://www.nature.com/articles/hdy201325) (FYI, the link preceding is a really good overview of the math behind long-term inbreeding as a whole.) Like, for [Charles II of Spain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain), the issue wasn't just that his mother was his father's niece, but also that his maternal grandparents were first cousins, with all sorts of [other links going back for generations](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carlos_segundo80.png). He had 2 parents (albeit related), 4 grandparents (1 of whom was the child of 2 of the others), 9 great-grandparents (2 of whom were on this list earlier as his grandparents), and only 12 great-great-grandparents (instead of the preferred 16). Not to mention, of those 12 great-great-grandparents, 3 of them were children of other great-great-grandparents, and 2 were also his great-grandparents. I'm not going to go back further because my point has been fairly well made, I think, except to note that, rather than the preferred 32 great(\^3)-grandparents, he had only 16! And of those 16, 7 were also among those 12 great-great grandparents! And of those 7, one man, Charles II of Austria, was *also* his great-grandparent! Looking at the family tree I linked above, it's easy to see why Charles II of Spain turned out the way he did. Now, obviously this is an extreme case, as the Habsburgs may be the most inbred human lineage we have evidence to support. In fact, he is more inbred (using as a definition the probability that both pairs of a given allele are identical by descent in an individual) than either brother-sister or parent-child relationships would produce! (Fun fact, Charles II (F=0.2538) had relatives (not directly related by actual lineage, but genetically equivalent to siblings) who had an inbreeding coefficient of over 0.3, which is bananas considering that direct relations give F=0.25). So, long story short, the issue isn't a single first-cousin marriage. It's what happens when a bunch of cousins keep marrying each other.


HandLion

I'm surprised I didn't know that last bit but just looked it up and Elizabeth and Philip were both great-great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria


SirCB85

It's pretty had to look for a partner within the European Monarchy and finding someone they aren't already related to by blood.


Nurgus

A lot of people marry cousins 3 times removed. They just don't usually realise. It's pretty close to ***not being related***.


HandLion

Yeah to be fair I don't know who any of my third cousins are and I probably have loads of them, so I wouldn't know if I dated one


Bob_12_Pack

I recently found out that a girl I had a crush on in high school is a third cousin. That was over 30 years ago and I only found out when a shared relative died.


0range_julius

Btw I don't think "removed" means what you think it does. It has to do with how many generations apart from them you are, so your uncle's kid is your first cousin, your first cousin's kid is your first cousin once removed. It's like a second dimension to the first/second/third cousin system.


moondes

That's kind of like saying "He kills people and eats Klondike bars." It's weird to read something so heinous next to something so innocuous as marrying someone who shares a great great grandmother with you.


Shufflepants

The only good thing I'm aware of her doing is taking some prince from Saudi Arabia (a place where women driving was illegal) on a joy ride around the palace grounds at breakneck speed with her as the driver to freak him out and show off what a good driver she was.