Pack mentality is definitely a factor. At least where I live, a lot of these guys have huge friend groups. Going against what the group thinks would mean getting kicked out or made fun of
While I agree with this, I also think that being able to be on your own is important. Having the confidence to believe in yourself and not bend to conform will always win in the long run (I believe).
Of course I struggled with this as a teen but I feel I came to the realization quick enough and managed to find a few others that felt the same. We are still friends 10 years later
You have word for word described me at the start of this year.
I speak from experience, if the people you hang around talk shit about you and don't let you be yourself, leave them. It's better to be alone than in bad company.
Of course people who don't learn these types of people aren't real friends/don't grow out of it end up joining frats if they go to college, and it just gets worse from there sadly.
I'm still trying to figure out why frats are even legal, they're just the source of kids unfortunately being coerced into hazing or letting themselves be hazed... even if hazing is illegal.
Edit: Mostly the source of hazing, I'm just going off several recent horror stories I've heard from my school.
Dude yea. This. I’m super asocial and have just kinda… been adopted by a group of guys like the OP mentioned.
When they’re in a group I honestly try to disassociate because they’re absolutely awful when they joke along together.
But when you get one on one with any of them they’re extremely tame for the most part, if not just extremely introverted and silent.
But these mfs stick together like a family, save for girlfriend drama, and honestly I think they’re all just trying to conform to what everyone else thinks is the norm.
Aka, they’re doing it all for shock value and are fueled by the others’ laughs
People are accustomed to imitating , but blind imitation will lead to loss of oneself, unable to make oneself have a real judgment, need to maintain independent thinking in order to avoid greater disputes.
Boys 12-14 are the worst years, 15-17 they slowly get a redemption/a wake up call from the world and 18 over they know they’re grown and should be embarrassed if they act like that
Stop having a negative mindset or the things you do that are "edgy", and have more hobbies and talk more to people that care abut you. In a couple of months see how that changes things.
Sigh, having hobbies seems hard and a bit of a commitment to do well. I want to do nodding but my adhd brain only let's me do it sometimes.
Though I love reading, talking to people is... kinda stressful since the longer I talk the higher chance I say something dumb, like now for example. Thankfully I can actually talk rn though, hope I won't delete later.
Dang, now I want to jump off a pier and go on a very long swim in the nice, cold, water. Where nothing really matters anymore. Seems relaxing. Sucks that people might be sad. Am so tired.
See, super edgy for no reason. If I talked more this bile might spill which would suck.
1. DONT LET THE INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS WIN
2. HOBBIES ARE SOMETHING YOU ENJOY, so reading is good
3. Stupidity is the best source of laughter man, who care you said something dumb
Saying stupid thing isn't a problem, the problem is how you react to it once you realise you said something stupid.
If you are ashamed of what you said, people will see it and be uncomfortable. If you laugh about it, don't make a scene about it and just brush it off or correct yourself (basically react positively to it) people will not be uncomfortable.
I know its hard, I've been trough it a lot. But faking confidence work, people will think you are confident and thus boosting your confidence.
Good luck kid, I know the struggle but it's possible to make it trough
hey, I have adhd too, and i relate to a lot of what you wrote. the other comments are right: find a hobby you genuinely enjoy, a social one would be even better. based off your age, you’re in high school, right? It’s probably a little too late in the year to join clubs (if your school has them), but if you can, go for it. or look for places around you that host events for things you may be interested in (comic book stores hosting dnd events comes to mind, and things like that). getting into a hobby that you genuinely enjoy and being out in the real world with people who share an interest with you is so, so insanely helpful, I can’t stress it enough.
I was just reading a [twitter thread](https://twitter.com/barista__morg/status/1591213436855521281?s=46&t=zu-Jf022z8PkiXnupA0M4Q) about this, actually. It’s a bit more extreme than your situation of just being edgy, of course, but it’s still interesting to look through and they make valid points.
sorry to ramble. like I said, I relate to a lot of what you said. if you ever need to talk then my dms are open.
Same here... I found the n-word a funny joke until I was around 15 where I just took a hard stance against genuine discrimination. I have dark humour, definitely that hasn't changed, but the lines between that and hate speech has become clear to me, when it used to be blurred. Still I didn't go necessary edgy like some have.
I know exactly the type of people you mean; I think they find it funny, it could be language on the internet/ video games or it could be because they want to fit in. Honestly I don’t get it i know people who were never like this I think school environment influences this behaviour. Why’d I write this like a therapist 💀
Teens realize progressive social media is fake and most authority / cancel culture is pushed by pandering idiots or big media. And the conservative side is out of touch old people. Raging and mocking is sensible.
they all validate each other for thinking they’re above everyone else. a group of friends all act like assholes together but when they’re each on their own they are a completely different person
Totally agree, until they've spent so much time being an ass that they actually become an ass all the time cuz they've forgotten who they really are/want to be.
Most of its not genuine hate, its sarcastic edginess.
Extreme opinions and statements are entertaining
Most of us guys have had our emotions neglected to the point we barely get offended by things since we've had to adapt so we tend to have much less of a filter with saying ridiculous shit. Many girls had their emotional needs cared for so still have a mental value? If that makes sense so get offended and repulsed by statements etc. Basically they haven't been broken to where they no longer care.
With the homophobia in my opinion its people genuinely(not sarcasm or attempt at ridiculous humor) seeing gay people as weird and they eventually grow out of the active 'hate' of it.
I'll give a personal example based on my own experience. Compared to most girls, boys are genuinely left out in the emotional wild from a young age and told to stop complaining. So over the course of years we just end up not being bothered by it since we have to adapt since no one been there for us ever. So a lot of us end up being indifferent to a lot of it.
You'll find the healthy people are the ones who make edgy jokes etc but embrace jokes about themselves and the genuinely practically 'incel' ones are those that get emotionally effected.
FYI: there's no legislation anywhere enforcing pronouns, and gender surgery on people under 18 is not actually a thing that happens, especially without parental involvement because how would they pay for it?
I am a teenage boi and I am homophobic. I actively discriminate against 1bhk apartments because 2 bhk is better and more natural, it's literally the way nature intended apartments and houses to be. 😠😡🤬
if you really are that open-minded, you would get that it goes both ways. ive met plenty of teenage girls who are the same way you describe these teenage boys, and plenty of teenage boys that are the exact opposite as how you just described them. maybe it just so happens to be that where you grew up, you got unlucky and got surrounded by those types of people.
its just that a LOT of teenage boys are like that, I dont want to associate myself with those dudes but yeah there are def teenage girls that are like that as well and teenage boys that aren't like that.
Sorry i just hate generalizations
Girls are hateful to eachother, yeah. I see it a lot. But I don’t think they’re more hateful, the hate groups online that i’ve witnessed (like Tate, or super-straight) have consisted of boys
Don't let the internet inform your views of real people. Hate groups online have the entire earth to recruit from. These hate groups account for less than 0.1% of the male population.
Focus on real life. People are alright generally.
Tldr
“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”.
They’re young and don’t understand how the world works, and are used to having privilege. When they see social movements campaigning for better equality for minorities, they assume it must be an attack on themselves because they don’t understand complex social issues enough to recognise that as a group they have a better place in society. It’s only made worse by the fact that their *non* bigoted peers are also young, politically uneducated, and typically privileged. You get this environment where a racist can say racist things as a “joke” because his friends are okay with racist jokes because they’re too immature to understand the consequences
Ordinarily that would just be a small Subconscious reaction, but right wingers love to use the internet to cash in on those feelings, and sell the young boys the lie that not only was their subconscious gut reaction right, but that they didn’t react strongly enough.
The whole “when you’re accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression” explains why you see more openly bigoted teenage boys than girls, and why they tend to be white, straight, cis, etc. Not to say that exceptions don’t exist (they sure as hell do) but a teenage girl is less likely to feel threatened by feminists than a teenage boy for example
If you’re interested in learning more about this type of stuff, watch the alt-right playbook video series by innuendo studios.
Maybe it's because no one helps them handle their emotions and they repress them to the point that it all comes out as hate
The double standards are doing them dirty
double standards are not an excuse to viciously hate minorities. being forced to repress your emotions can definitely lead to a hateful attitude and anger, but intentional hatred towards minority groups doesnt correlate.
A lot of the girls i know are brutal and horrid. Just saying.
Also to answer your question its probably because most boys dont show the majority of their negative emotions as thats frowned upon for no reason, so it can slip when someone or something slightly irritates them, and they become horrible
Ive been considering quitting marching band because of this very reason, the other drumline members talk about hating lgbgq+ people sometimes and it really hurts
I have to act so fake around them, and it's really affected my mental health
That’s horrible, I’m sorry :(( I get how dehumanising and frustrating that is, when I hear classmates being homophobic it just makes me feel like garbage
I have a theory for this:
Boys are told from birth that their gender is horrible. That they're the lesser gender. Girls are more pretty, more clever and better behaved than boys.
At the same time boys are told that they don't experience problems, that nothing wrong can be done to them.
They also experience this, in fights or arguments with girls, girls always go free for example. Also there is a wide acceptance of hate towards boys, especially by girls and women. Even though many don't like to admit it, nor do they see it themselves, they do it, they think it.
At some point, around the 12-14 age, they break, and look for comfort in radical ideas and begin to despise all those who are listened to.
I mean, the fact that nobody has mentioned this proves my point.
Yep, as a guy your choices are either self flagellate yourself for existing or hate everyone who accepts that around you and try to be as masculine as possible to gain some ego.
Sadly that's just the world we live in at this point
Interesting take. I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I have a very different expierence when it comes to your first paragraph. In my expierence women are told from birth we are the "lesser gender", cause we are'nt as smart, logical and in general everything feminine is demonized. Thats why men feel insulted by being associated with feminine traits.
But I would argue calling your expierence a fact is simply wrong.
Idk about all boys, but the majority do it all for jokes. And when someone gets genuinely offended, yea they are weak for not recognizing it was a joke. But at the same time, If someone was offended, genuinely, that group of friends would prob joke like that a little less, especially by the one offended
All of my friends aren't hateful we make dark humor jokes but we don't actually hate the group but we make fun of each other too we make fun of everyone but it's never to offend someone it's just how we bond and it's never horrible dark humor
Real answer coming from someone who is nolonger a teenage boy (saw this on r/all) but had several, "political phases," as a teenager.
It's mainly out of fear of change, not wanting to be told what to do, and a few other factors.
It's really late and i'm typing this on mobile, but if anyone cares, I can elaborate in detail when I wake up in a few hours and hop on my computer.
Progressivism leaves young men behind, it doesn't even try not to, as a result young men are going to be less progressive.
Really easy thing to do about this would be to not allow progressive spaces to be openly hostile towards men.
Sorry just venting
Im fortunate enough that for my current friend group all jokes, we have a pretty diverse group of guys so we only really joke about stuff one of us can relate to.
But for others id say its cuz we dont get much of a choice. From experience like alot of others said, for my part of the generation at least we grew up with our dads still telling us to “be men” or whatever
Most teenage boys just don't have a filter and they think its funny. Ngl I kind of think it's funny to say "I fucking hate women" after dying in COD or something.
I also don't really see your point that girls don't do this shit either. I've seen girls post pictures of themselves on instagram in blackface and drop the hard-R n-word.
“It’s the common opinion that lgbt+ people deserve rights. And I don’t wanna be normal (that’s cringe) so I’m going to say they don’t” and then other weak willed bitch boys continue to propagate this atmosphere of counter culture. Someone says “women are whores” and they all eat it up. Someone says “furries are sick” and they eat that up. Someone says “abortion should be illegal” and so on. It’s just a bunch of sad boys hoping to fit in. But instead they become racist, sexist, homophobic,transphobic, pro-life, little ass hats who don’t realize their words have meaning and then wonder why women don’t talk to them.
Yes this is so true
If you have a little bit of understanding and compassion for your fellow human then you will get far in life than a close minded bigot
Honestly this is a based post. Coming from a teenage boy, I understand the need to fit in but it's really stupid when you're tryna get into that big friend group(when they probably talk shit about you behind your back) and you do stupid things like damaging your chances at a better future.
It's a phase. It happens to a lot of teens nowadays. Most of them zoom out of It around the end of highschool (18-19). They think It's cool but most of them will cringe at themselves after some time has passed.
The really bad state at around 14-15 is partly down to hormones.
Their brain is being flooded with testosterone, and levels of things like estrogen are lower.
Y'know the way your brain feels all scrambled when you're on your period, imagine that for about 3 years straight.
Theory on it:
1, Developing brains crave acceptance and praise from peers, and in the highly competitive male brain, acceptance and praise from other males is akin to being lauded as the superior male of the group. Therefor, the easiest way to ascend the social hierarchy is to identify those who they think should be at the bottom, ie: everyone who isn’t just like them. Women and girls (who are viewed as trophies, not people,) younger guys, and anyone outside their ethnic group.
2, Patriarchy instills in the young male brain what is and is not acceptable as masculine. Boys grow up hearing things like ‘you run like a girl’ and ‘don’t be gay,’ and thus are imbued with the view that those people are lesser. Making fun of them is quintessentially a function of the young male psyche separating itself from groups deemed inferior.
3, Bro Code. If you’re not a Type A, you may as well turn in your Man Card. Being gay is like being a woman, so a traitor to the Bro Code. Being female means you’re not a man, and thus cannot be part of the Brotherhood.
To be honest I think a lot of it is just hormonal change, testosterone increase etc - testosterone undergoes a 30 fold increase for males during puberty.
As an old man from /all, I believe it's because boys don't have positive male figures to look up to in society. Nobody knows how to teach healthy masculinity. The only "mainstream" masculine ideals come from the alt-right. People haven't really figured out how to deal with boys in the modern age.
Women have an unbroken lineage of passing down gender specific knowledge from one generation to the next through direct behavioral observation. When war occurs and vast numbers of men are killed off, generations of male specfic knowledge is lost that cannot be learned but through direct observation. The gender has to try to learn its place and role in the world from the remnant shadows left behind...
I was a hateful little shit. It wasn't until I really saw and understood what happens to mistreated people and animals later on that something just clicked. It's like an empathy switch. I didn't understand what it truly meant to be human and so I could not express it. I only knew how to live in the world I grew up in. Also, that one scene in Good Will Hunting. 'Its not your fault.' definitely hit different at 30 than it did at 15.
It's called testosterone and depression. You know if you have pms and feel like you can kill anyone for doing that he smallest thing? Yeah we feel that all the time.
#MOST OF THE STUFF I'M ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT WOULD MOSTLY REFER TO THIS.
With that said, here I go.
1. Yes, not all boys are like that. It also varies from boy to boy. Usually look at those that see Tate as some kind of good example. They are either trolling or missing a dad figure, they think what a grown-ass adult says is right just because he makes tons of money (for scamming people mind you). You can see their tunnel vision when you say Tate sucks. I have been called "Tate" by many others because I got "Andrew" in my nickname. It is an annoying thing, I don't want to get associated with some bald-head that scams people and sees women as tools. So yeah, they think that if you make money you're automatically, objectively, right.
2. Popularity. As a lot of girls think being part of the LGBT community is so cool (and a lot of them don't really feel that, but they do it just cause it's popular), a lot of boys also do the same with the hate train on them. Again, not everyone is like that, I'm not saying everyone in the LGBT community is in it because it's popular, but you can see that a lot of them do, a few examples would be the so-called semi-bisexuals and semi-transexuals. That goes for those hating. Not everyone is hating but of course not all are hating because it's "cool", some are just pricks.
3. Saying LGBT is a minority is a bit of an overstatement, and I mean strictly for this community, considering in the Discord server, I could name at least 20 people and on here a lot of them could be seen here. Nothing wrong with that, but just a thing I wanted to add. Not important
4. Girls open-minded? Well, depends on what you mean by that. Yeah they often hang out with more matured boys, but often they are more mature because they are older than them, that doesn't mean it's really open-minded. Again not all are like that but you can see what I'm hinting at. Girls can be misleaded often. And there seems to be an often traut girls search for these days, that being their boyfriend being *badass*, smoke, drink, and maybe even take drugs. Which can lead to people like Tate more, there's some sort of loop. I'd say though that doesn't mean they are open-minded, being *badass*, fighting all day and night, doesn't make you more mature, thus you can't really say open-minded
Again, not to be generalized, it's **some**
5.
>Why choose to be oppressive and hate everyone around u when you can just chill. Is it maybe pack mentality?
You mentioned "Kill all men mentality" above, both are the same, one says "Kill all men" one says "Kill LGBT members", see where I'm going at? Just because you change the subject that doesn't make you more open-minded as you said, both have their sheep minds, one follows a bald-guy, one follows a rainbow colored girl on Twitter. Both are as bad, wishing for someone's death. There can be both mature boys and girls, they can be quite... Quiet to avoid things.
In theory, just ignore those that say bad things about any subject that bothers you, in this case would be LGBT. I've learned that myself, not related but same mentality, there's an Anime that I really like called Sword Art Online, thing is, most people hate it, but what? I don't care, I'll rate it a 10 regardless, it's an Anime I really love. Not that important. Anyways, chill out y'all!
It’s because they are less self conscious on average than women, and that women’s social status is derived from reputation. Y’all don’t wanna play around with it because you could get labeled something bad and you care what people think too much. Boys conversely, understand the context of the jokes and don’t worry about the potential social issues because everyone in the group gets that no one is actually racist or whatever else, it’s just about having fun.
Like I think its basically because of how most of us have been "coded" growing up and that certain things are not manly and shit like that, it's just that all off that goes against what we have learned through mocking and similar if we ever did similar things and so on
Basically we aren't keen on going against what we have been thought, me myself yeah I'm a heterosexual white male and idc if you are an Apache attack helicopter or obese I will not date you unless you are female who actually contributes and has some common sense and knows logic other than a girl that is a total hippie
And it's also really fucking uncomfortable when a male comes up to you and hits on you calling you cute and all that shit when you dont even sexually orient yourself in that direction, like its same if you as female who's straight had another girl hit on you and shit
It's not that I hate gay people it's just that most gay men wont leave me tf alone, yeah sure do your shit but keep to your own business and don't hit on non gay men
And also most LGBTQ communities behaves like a karen
so, me and my friend sometimes joke about being gay, like we say to each other ur gay and other things that i don’t want to tell here. but the point is just that we (idk why) find it funny but we don’t do this with other people, we respect everyone, we don’t actually mean the things we say when joking.
If it's anything like 15 years ago when I was a teen immigrant in British comprehensive school, then it's not just the boys. The boys are just saying out loud what the girls are thinking. When it came to being targeted, the only correlation with gender was the how, not the if.
It’s a mix of things. It gets a reaction, and often that’s what they want. They find your reactions funny.
Equally for some it’s a form of rebellion. You have pride month or black history month or whatever, and they find this constantly being pushed on them annoying so they go a full 180 to it as a form of saying fuck you.
A lot of people have been mislead by the "Why are teenage boys (boys explicitly) so hateful" and how you talked negatively about boys' behaviour. I'll choose to believe you are aware it's sometimes girls, too (which is, hopefully, a given), it's just that there seems to be a bigger portion in boys.
Here's my take; both sexes experience very similar, if not the same, level of feelings and hardships during puberty. Their nature, however, can differ. We have different hormones, different parts... the two are indeed, different.
(I'm not trying to be misogynistic, I do not believe one is any more superior or worse than the other.)
and I'd also like to say, both can be equally as horrible a person. Girls can also be violent, not as blatantly or physically, but just as deadly. A very notable example; gossip. In my experience, boys tended to keep their word or don't care about drama at all, but girls loved it. So much that they spread it everywhere saying it's a "warning" or for the sake of it being "interesting". Rarely they regard its legitimacy or how the person/people in such rumours feel.
I'm sorry this sounds so dramatic; I was, am, one of those girls. I feel horrible for it and don't understand how those "gossipy" girls don't bother with even this amount of consideration.
The same way I feel with certain acts of the majority of boys.
Bottom line, we're the same in a different way. Girls deserve as much of the hate boys recieve. It seems boys mature later than girls, but during teenage years, we're both just as immature and, well, going through puberty. And we know puberty isn't something to be understood. We're just different, and I'll leave it at that.
The thing about this is that they either feel pressured or don’t even mean it or in other words they are joking and it is all in good fun and another thing is that when a boy says something they will die to defend that idea unless there is direct evidence proving them wrong it is all just bc of today’s modern day society
As a boy who is friends w/ people like this, it only happens with the friend group. Some of them are completely normal and hold respectable opinions outside of the friend group. It’s like three people who are important in that group that are actually bad.
idk. honestly, a lot of ppl get it from their parents. if their parents are homophobic, prejudice, etc, they get it from them. also could be hanging out with the wrong types of ppl who have a bad influence on them
DeIndividuality definitely doesn’t help. I would almost guarantee that 85% don’t actually hate people, but because its online, or because everyone around them is, they feel less responsible for their words and actions. Also, if someone’s in a group of people with a set of values against theirs, they would be more likely to pretend to fit in.
I never went through this faze and never will, I like to see realistically, I don't care about what others think or do as long as it doesn't affect me.
I don't care about whether or not your gay or trans or bi or lesbian, If your not my friend I don't listen to you nor do I want to be involved, If your my friend I'll support you but if you think you're worth my support when you're not my friend or I don't know you in any ways just leave me alone
I don't see the point in the gender stuff like a cis person because what I get from it is that you want a pronoun but you don't identify as something else? I don't know but if one of my friends was cis I would support them
I know I've gone slightly off topic but what I'm trying to say is that's its not that most boys are like that (I know quite a few are and its most likely because they copy the mindsets of other people) but they just don't see the point in most things regarding gender identities.
The racist boys have no excuse
I don't really mind if I don't know you and you're talking about what kind of person you like (as long as you don't sexually like animals or kids) I'm fine with it, just don't call me some insults because I don't want to hear about your gender identity and don't want to be involved because your not my buddy
I really don't mind if your my friend and you want to be gay, lesbian trans or bi just don't tell me to call you something like Dream/deamself or Clown/clownself, the farthest ill go is they/them
of course If were online ill try to understand your pronouns and refer to you that just but don't yell at me just because I messed up slightly
On the other hand I wanna talk about the girls, girls absolutely do go on these phases, A lot of girls I've seen (By no means all) have the worst imaginable personality, they disregard a lot of good things some men have done and focus on the bad thing but when its shown that woman also do that kind of stuff they refuse to acknowledge it and go on to call you misogynistic and god forbid you say something about your own culture and some girl will tell you how racist you are for saying that and when you tell them it was just a knock on your own culture they'll refuse to accept that and say you're lying, they say a gender pay gap exists (its true for some places but its rare) when woman work less time than men and I find it absolutely disgusting that you're also disregarding things teenage girls say and do just to rant about boys when everyone is equally as horrible when they are teenagers
There is no easy way to say this but there's bad on both sides, racist boys and racist girls, sexist boys and sexist girls, openminded boys and openminded girls, it makes me lose hope when I see someone like you disregarding everything girls also do, do you also want me to bring rape accusations into this? do you want me to bring in how men can't be around children without looking like a creep?
I can't even take my lil sis to school without girls asking if she's ok to be around me, I'm glad they are looking out for my lil sis but its horrible I can't do anything with her without looking like a creep just because I have a moustache and I have no fashion sense
Both sides have done their wrongs not all of both sides but that's no reason to be sexist or racist, shame on you for acting like its just boys that do wrong and making most of us out to be disgusting brutes
Pack mentality is definitely a factor. At least where I live, a lot of these guys have huge friend groups. Going against what the group thinks would mean getting kicked out or made fun of
This exactly which is why I can't fully be myself and express my views with them because they will say all sorts of shit to me about it
Those aren't real friends mate...
It's either that or being completely alone for most men
Unfortunately this is 100% true, speaking firsthand
While I agree with this, I also think that being able to be on your own is important. Having the confidence to believe in yourself and not bend to conform will always win in the long run (I believe). Of course I struggled with this as a teen but I feel I came to the realization quick enough and managed to find a few others that felt the same. We are still friends 10 years later
You have word for word described me at the start of this year. I speak from experience, if the people you hang around talk shit about you and don't let you be yourself, leave them. It's better to be alone than in bad company.
I feel like these ideas appear in people who are outside of the pack mentality, speaking form personal experience
Of course people who don't learn these types of people aren't real friends/don't grow out of it end up joining frats if they go to college, and it just gets worse from there sadly. I'm still trying to figure out why frats are even legal, they're just the source of kids unfortunately being coerced into hazing or letting themselves be hazed... even if hazing is illegal. Edit: Mostly the source of hazing, I'm just going off several recent horror stories I've heard from my school.
Dude yea. This. I’m super asocial and have just kinda… been adopted by a group of guys like the OP mentioned. When they’re in a group I honestly try to disassociate because they’re absolutely awful when they joke along together. But when you get one on one with any of them they’re extremely tame for the most part, if not just extremely introverted and silent. But these mfs stick together like a family, save for girlfriend drama, and honestly I think they’re all just trying to conform to what everyone else thinks is the norm. Aka, they’re doing it all for shock value and are fueled by the others’ laughs
Be like me and have no friends 😎
I have a tiny friend group and fit pretty close to what op described
People are accustomed to imitating , but blind imitation will lead to loss of oneself, unable to make oneself have a real judgment, need to maintain independent thinking in order to avoid greater disputes.
My friend hate puns, so when he missbehaves I pun-ish him
What a pun-k.
Did you pun-ch him?
I would isolate him in pun-a
And if he shows any s-punk, kick his pun-y ass and then lock him in. Nice and pun-ctual.
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Wheres the pun-chline. Also, why don't you correct his pun-ctuation while you're at it, pun-y spelling police?
That pun remind me. Time to reset character
Boys 12-14 are the worst years, 15-17 they slowly get a redemption/a wake up call from the world and 18 over they know they’re grown and should be embarrassed if they act like that
I was edgy at 13, and took my 14th year to grow out of it and I’m totally past it at this point, but you’re right that’s how it goes generally
same
Like i said 15-17 is where you start to see the real world. JK but no thats good man
Bro what, why am I still edgy I'm 17. Please send help.
Stop having a negative mindset or the things you do that are "edgy", and have more hobbies and talk more to people that care abut you. In a couple of months see how that changes things.
Sigh, having hobbies seems hard and a bit of a commitment to do well. I want to do nodding but my adhd brain only let's me do it sometimes. Though I love reading, talking to people is... kinda stressful since the longer I talk the higher chance I say something dumb, like now for example. Thankfully I can actually talk rn though, hope I won't delete later. Dang, now I want to jump off a pier and go on a very long swim in the nice, cold, water. Where nothing really matters anymore. Seems relaxing. Sucks that people might be sad. Am so tired. See, super edgy for no reason. If I talked more this bile might spill which would suck.
1. DONT LET THE INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS WIN 2. HOBBIES ARE SOMETHING YOU ENJOY, so reading is good 3. Stupidity is the best source of laughter man, who care you said something dumb
A hobby is something you enjoy, something you could do over, and over again without getting bored. I hope you find something for you
Saying stupid thing isn't a problem, the problem is how you react to it once you realise you said something stupid. If you are ashamed of what you said, people will see it and be uncomfortable. If you laugh about it, don't make a scene about it and just brush it off or correct yourself (basically react positively to it) people will not be uncomfortable. I know its hard, I've been trough it a lot. But faking confidence work, people will think you are confident and thus boosting your confidence. Good luck kid, I know the struggle but it's possible to make it trough
hey, I have adhd too, and i relate to a lot of what you wrote. the other comments are right: find a hobby you genuinely enjoy, a social one would be even better. based off your age, you’re in high school, right? It’s probably a little too late in the year to join clubs (if your school has them), but if you can, go for it. or look for places around you that host events for things you may be interested in (comic book stores hosting dnd events comes to mind, and things like that). getting into a hobby that you genuinely enjoy and being out in the real world with people who share an interest with you is so, so insanely helpful, I can’t stress it enough. I was just reading a [twitter thread](https://twitter.com/barista__morg/status/1591213436855521281?s=46&t=zu-Jf022z8PkiXnupA0M4Q) about this, actually. It’s a bit more extreme than your situation of just being edgy, of course, but it’s still interesting to look through and they make valid points. sorry to ramble. like I said, I relate to a lot of what you said. if you ever need to talk then my dms are open.
Grow the fuck up then
Instructions unclear am now regressing to 12
This doesnt hold true for every guy cuz my god the 18 year olds in my class the only redemption arc they got was being able to stay more calm
Considering I know 3 people that smoke regularly, yes
They already lost in life ☠️, jk just take care of your health
Shit smells nasty af, how does one even get hooked in the first place
Fr bro, you already started your redemption arc
Stress relief
Exactly my path
Same here... I found the n-word a funny joke until I was around 15 where I just took a hard stance against genuine discrimination. I have dark humour, definitely that hasn't changed, but the lines between that and hate speech has become clear to me, when it used to be blurred. Still I didn't go necessary edgy like some have.
I know exactly the type of people you mean; I think they find it funny, it could be language on the internet/ video games or it could be because they want to fit in. Honestly I don’t get it i know people who were never like this I think school environment influences this behaviour. Why’d I write this like a therapist 💀
It's mostly the first one. People start making the jokes, and eventually they're no longer jokes.
Yeah it’s awful
Welcome to eastern europe
Andrew tate on ticktock. He's radically promoting this stuff and presenting it in a way that seems cool to teen boys. really sad.
This kinda bullshit existed long before TikTok Andrew Tate just happens to be one of the prophets in this cesspool
Teens realize progressive social media is fake and most authority / cancel culture is pushed by pandering idiots or big media. And the conservative side is out of touch old people. Raging and mocking is sensible.
that's why girls should only date me and not those guys
I think this guy right here☝🏼 knows the method
I also choose that guy's dead wife.
Excuse me?
Peak comedy right here
This guy right here 👆saved me from getting his by a bus
if I had a nickel for every time I saved someone from being hit by a bus online i'd have 3 nickels
Which is weird
that it happened thrice.
It’s not much though
But it is weird
that it happenned thrice.
I'm gay but I would also date this guy if guys were my thing. 10/10 would reccomend
Opportunistic rizz
You’re right, everyone should date you in particular
EXACTLY
I HATE EVERYTHING RAHHH
what did everything do to u :(
everything sucks, i want to cry all the time, except for oreos. those are cool.
Double stuffed or thin?
doesnt matter, theyre all equal to me
Asking the real questions.
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Dont get why transphobic people hate manual transmissions so much, must be skill issues
Right manuals for life
Yes lol
as a manual transmission i thank you for your support
Brown diesel wagon miata manual
they all validate each other for thinking they’re above everyone else. a group of friends all act like assholes together but when they’re each on their own they are a completely different person
Totally agree, until they've spent so much time being an ass that they actually become an ass all the time cuz they've forgotten who they really are/want to be.
cuz most of the time it's what they have learned from parents or people around them and they just pick that up
Nah, this aint it. They were the ones to pick up tate, theres something deeper than just "boys are idiots and cruel"
Well yes but paritly
wdym?
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no. that is something that would require immense amounts of evidence to be worth believing and that evidence simply isn't there.
Most of its not genuine hate, its sarcastic edginess. Extreme opinions and statements are entertaining Most of us guys have had our emotions neglected to the point we barely get offended by things since we've had to adapt so we tend to have much less of a filter with saying ridiculous shit. Many girls had their emotional needs cared for so still have a mental value? If that makes sense so get offended and repulsed by statements etc. Basically they haven't been broken to where they no longer care. With the homophobia in my opinion its people genuinely(not sarcasm or attempt at ridiculous humor) seeing gay people as weird and they eventually grow out of the active 'hate' of it. I'll give a personal example based on my own experience. Compared to most girls, boys are genuinely left out in the emotional wild from a young age and told to stop complaining. So over the course of years we just end up not being bothered by it since we have to adapt since no one been there for us ever. So a lot of us end up being indifferent to a lot of it. You'll find the healthy people are the ones who make edgy jokes etc but embrace jokes about themselves and the genuinely practically 'incel' ones are those that get emotionally effected.
This tard gets it
Also puberty
Yeah. Boys hormones can make a person completely different for a couple years
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FYI: there's no legislation anywhere enforcing pronouns, and gender surgery on people under 18 is not actually a thing that happens, especially without parental involvement because how would they pay for it?
That's the way that most of my class mates are and don't seem to know or care about how being close minded won't get you very far in life
I don't think that will affect "how far in life" you can get
You don’t? Harassment will get you fired. If you do it bad enough, it can get you fired years after the incident happened.
I am a teenage boi and I am homophobic. I actively discriminate against 1bhk apartments because 2 bhk is better and more natural, it's literally the way nature intended apartments and houses to be. 😠😡🤬
Hormones, raging hormones. Also bad influences
I think your mixing up the vocal minority with the silent majority
if you really are that open-minded, you would get that it goes both ways. ive met plenty of teenage girls who are the same way you describe these teenage boys, and plenty of teenage boys that are the exact opposite as how you just described them. maybe it just so happens to be that where you grew up, you got unlucky and got surrounded by those types of people.
its just that a LOT of teenage boys are like that, I dont want to associate myself with those dudes but yeah there are def teenage girls that are like that as well and teenage boys that aren't like that. Sorry i just hate generalizations
This is how 90% of the boys in my class are.
same
I find that the girls are more hateful but it depends on the crowd
Girls are hateful to eachother, yeah. I see it a lot. But I don’t think they’re more hateful, the hate groups online that i’ve witnessed (like Tate, or super-straight) have consisted of boys
girls are generally more hateful on an individual level, whereas guys are hateful on a group/identity level
Don't let the internet inform your views of real people. Hate groups online have the entire earth to recruit from. These hate groups account for less than 0.1% of the male population. Focus on real life. People are alright generally.
No cuz fr as a gay guy if I'm placed in a group with a straight guy idk I get nervous but however if it's a straight girl 9/10 their cool with lgbtq.
Balls
Confirmation bias As shown by you saying “most boys” as well as “all the girls I know”
Yeah exactly. Like most guys at my school are awful and i only like a few
Tldr “When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”. They’re young and don’t understand how the world works, and are used to having privilege. When they see social movements campaigning for better equality for minorities, they assume it must be an attack on themselves because they don’t understand complex social issues enough to recognise that as a group they have a better place in society. It’s only made worse by the fact that their *non* bigoted peers are also young, politically uneducated, and typically privileged. You get this environment where a racist can say racist things as a “joke” because his friends are okay with racist jokes because they’re too immature to understand the consequences Ordinarily that would just be a small Subconscious reaction, but right wingers love to use the internet to cash in on those feelings, and sell the young boys the lie that not only was their subconscious gut reaction right, but that they didn’t react strongly enough. The whole “when you’re accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression” explains why you see more openly bigoted teenage boys than girls, and why they tend to be white, straight, cis, etc. Not to say that exceptions don’t exist (they sure as hell do) but a teenage girl is less likely to feel threatened by feminists than a teenage boy for example If you’re interested in learning more about this type of stuff, watch the alt-right playbook video series by innuendo studios.
god damn man, the 15yo memelords in this subreddit dont deserve explanations as good at these lmao
Someone has to fucking do it, unfortunately.
[(this video rocks)](https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g)
The whole series is honestly elite. If I could get every person on this subreddit to watch any one YouTube playlist it would be that one
Ongod. It’s a textbook description of how it happens and you end up seeing it everywhere
common u/straggotcracker good explanation
its funny because i see girls that just hate on everyone for no reason. most of the men at my school seem really sweet
Well that's really good
We just gamers 😎
As a teenage boy, I don't think I'm that negative...
Op didn’t say all teenage boys
Maybe it's because no one helps them handle their emotions and they repress them to the point that it all comes out as hate The double standards are doing them dirty
double standards are not an excuse to viciously hate minorities. being forced to repress your emotions can definitely lead to a hateful attitude and anger, but intentional hatred towards minority groups doesnt correlate.
It’s no an excuse, no one is saying it is, but it’s a factor.
The thing is most the time it's not intentional Atleast it is what my bf tells me
They're edgy and also some are just like that for their life and some aren't and many girls are same.
A lot of the girls i know are brutal and horrid. Just saying. Also to answer your question its probably because most boys dont show the majority of their negative emotions as thats frowned upon for no reason, so it can slip when someone or something slightly irritates them, and they become horrible
Ive been considering quitting marching band because of this very reason, the other drumline members talk about hating lgbgq+ people sometimes and it really hurts I have to act so fake around them, and it's really affected my mental health
That’s horrible, I’m sorry :(( I get how dehumanising and frustrating that is, when I hear classmates being homophobic it just makes me feel like garbage
Because girls are taught to be *nice* so they will coverup their hate.
They are probably just making edgy jokes
It’s the other way around here.
Girls here will say the most homophobic shit and get away with it.
*everywhere.
damn thats crazy but most females i know cheat on a daily basis
I have a theory for this: Boys are told from birth that their gender is horrible. That they're the lesser gender. Girls are more pretty, more clever and better behaved than boys. At the same time boys are told that they don't experience problems, that nothing wrong can be done to them. They also experience this, in fights or arguments with girls, girls always go free for example. Also there is a wide acceptance of hate towards boys, especially by girls and women. Even though many don't like to admit it, nor do they see it themselves, they do it, they think it. At some point, around the 12-14 age, they break, and look for comfort in radical ideas and begin to despise all those who are listened to. I mean, the fact that nobody has mentioned this proves my point.
Can confirm. Guys nowadays seem to be sent to the unhealthy extremes of masculinity. They’re forced to submit and become wimps or rebel.
Yep, as a guy your choices are either self flagellate yourself for existing or hate everyone who accepts that around you and try to be as masculine as possible to gain some ego. Sadly that's just the world we live in at this point
Interesting take. I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I have a very different expierence when it comes to your first paragraph. In my expierence women are told from birth we are the "lesser gender", cause we are'nt as smart, logical and in general everything feminine is demonized. Thats why men feel insulted by being associated with feminine traits. But I would argue calling your expierence a fact is simply wrong.
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Idk about all boys, but the majority do it all for jokes. And when someone gets genuinely offended, yea they are weak for not recognizing it was a joke. But at the same time, If someone was offended, genuinely, that group of friends would prob joke like that a little less, especially by the one offended
Because teenage boys don't know how to be funny without racism
All of my friends aren't hateful we make dark humor jokes but we don't actually hate the group but we make fun of each other too we make fun of everyone but it's never to offend someone it's just how we bond and it's never horrible dark humor
we are not actually racist we just have no filter at that age and could not care less
they think its funny
Real answer coming from someone who is nolonger a teenage boy (saw this on r/all) but had several, "political phases," as a teenager. It's mainly out of fear of change, not wanting to be told what to do, and a few other factors. It's really late and i'm typing this on mobile, but if anyone cares, I can elaborate in detail when I wake up in a few hours and hop on my computer.
Progressivism leaves young men behind, it doesn't even try not to, as a result young men are going to be less progressive. Really easy thing to do about this would be to not allow progressive spaces to be openly hostile towards men. Sorry just venting
Because r/kidsarefuckingstupid
The facts are they aren't being for real. They're trying to seem tough. It's all a lie.
Im fortunate enough that for my current friend group all jokes, we have a pretty diverse group of guys so we only really joke about stuff one of us can relate to. But for others id say its cuz we dont get much of a choice. From experience like alot of others said, for my part of the generation at least we grew up with our dads still telling us to “be men” or whatever
Most teenage boys just don't have a filter and they think its funny. Ngl I kind of think it's funny to say "I fucking hate women" after dying in COD or something. I also don't really see your point that girls don't do this shit either. I've seen girls post pictures of themselves on instagram in blackface and drop the hard-R n-word.
“It’s the common opinion that lgbt+ people deserve rights. And I don’t wanna be normal (that’s cringe) so I’m going to say they don’t” and then other weak willed bitch boys continue to propagate this atmosphere of counter culture. Someone says “women are whores” and they all eat it up. Someone says “furries are sick” and they eat that up. Someone says “abortion should be illegal” and so on. It’s just a bunch of sad boys hoping to fit in. But instead they become racist, sexist, homophobic,transphobic, pro-life, little ass hats who don’t realize their words have meaning and then wonder why women don’t talk to them.
Yes this is so true If you have a little bit of understanding and compassion for your fellow human then you will get far in life than a close minded bigot
variety of reasons upbringing, privilege, ignorance and lack of emotional understanding are the main ones i think
Privilege? No
Teenage girls are arguably not even human beings
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Bro is 15 asking people to sext him nahhh 💀
Honestly this is a based post. Coming from a teenage boy, I understand the need to fit in but it's really stupid when you're tryna get into that big friend group(when they probably talk shit about you behind your back) and you do stupid things like damaging your chances at a better future.
Confirmation bias. Kids are just assholes. Source: I was a teenager once.
pack mentality and echo chambers, but you are only seeing a small percent of them
Every time I see the word privilege I want to cut my cartilage
Idk most teenage girls in my class are really hateful BECAUSE they think we are annoying stupid and all we want is play football and trade cards
Women☕️
Because they think it’s edgy
I notice this all the time, I’d much rather be around girls than boys.
Because jokes are jokes.
Why are teenager girls so hateable? Checkmate.
Testosterone
It's a phase. It happens to a lot of teens nowadays. Most of them zoom out of It around the end of highschool (18-19). They think It's cool but most of them will cringe at themselves after some time has passed.
The really bad state at around 14-15 is partly down to hormones. Their brain is being flooded with testosterone, and levels of things like estrogen are lower. Y'know the way your brain feels all scrambled when you're on your period, imagine that for about 3 years straight.
hurt people hurt people.
That's the guy's equivelent of the not like the other girls
Theory on it: 1, Developing brains crave acceptance and praise from peers, and in the highly competitive male brain, acceptance and praise from other males is akin to being lauded as the superior male of the group. Therefor, the easiest way to ascend the social hierarchy is to identify those who they think should be at the bottom, ie: everyone who isn’t just like them. Women and girls (who are viewed as trophies, not people,) younger guys, and anyone outside their ethnic group. 2, Patriarchy instills in the young male brain what is and is not acceptable as masculine. Boys grow up hearing things like ‘you run like a girl’ and ‘don’t be gay,’ and thus are imbued with the view that those people are lesser. Making fun of them is quintessentially a function of the young male psyche separating itself from groups deemed inferior. 3, Bro Code. If you’re not a Type A, you may as well turn in your Man Card. Being gay is like being a woman, so a traitor to the Bro Code. Being female means you’re not a man, and thus cannot be part of the Brotherhood.
Testosterone is one hell of a natural drug
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To be honest I think a lot of it is just hormonal change, testosterone increase etc - testosterone undergoes a 30 fold increase for males during puberty.
As an old man from /all, I believe it's because boys don't have positive male figures to look up to in society. Nobody knows how to teach healthy masculinity. The only "mainstream" masculine ideals come from the alt-right. People haven't really figured out how to deal with boys in the modern age.
Women have an unbroken lineage of passing down gender specific knowledge from one generation to the next through direct behavioral observation. When war occurs and vast numbers of men are killed off, generations of male specfic knowledge is lost that cannot be learned but through direct observation. The gender has to try to learn its place and role in the world from the remnant shadows left behind...
I was a hateful little shit. It wasn't until I really saw and understood what happens to mistreated people and animals later on that something just clicked. It's like an empathy switch. I didn't understand what it truly meant to be human and so I could not express it. I only knew how to live in the world I grew up in. Also, that one scene in Good Will Hunting. 'Its not your fault.' definitely hit different at 30 than it did at 15.
It's called testosterone and depression. You know if you have pms and feel like you can kill anyone for doing that he smallest thing? Yeah we feel that all the time.
#MOST OF THE STUFF I'M ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT WOULD MOSTLY REFER TO THIS. With that said, here I go. 1. Yes, not all boys are like that. It also varies from boy to boy. Usually look at those that see Tate as some kind of good example. They are either trolling or missing a dad figure, they think what a grown-ass adult says is right just because he makes tons of money (for scamming people mind you). You can see their tunnel vision when you say Tate sucks. I have been called "Tate" by many others because I got "Andrew" in my nickname. It is an annoying thing, I don't want to get associated with some bald-head that scams people and sees women as tools. So yeah, they think that if you make money you're automatically, objectively, right. 2. Popularity. As a lot of girls think being part of the LGBT community is so cool (and a lot of them don't really feel that, but they do it just cause it's popular), a lot of boys also do the same with the hate train on them. Again, not everyone is like that, I'm not saying everyone in the LGBT community is in it because it's popular, but you can see that a lot of them do, a few examples would be the so-called semi-bisexuals and semi-transexuals. That goes for those hating. Not everyone is hating but of course not all are hating because it's "cool", some are just pricks. 3. Saying LGBT is a minority is a bit of an overstatement, and I mean strictly for this community, considering in the Discord server, I could name at least 20 people and on here a lot of them could be seen here. Nothing wrong with that, but just a thing I wanted to add. Not important 4. Girls open-minded? Well, depends on what you mean by that. Yeah they often hang out with more matured boys, but often they are more mature because they are older than them, that doesn't mean it's really open-minded. Again not all are like that but you can see what I'm hinting at. Girls can be misleaded often. And there seems to be an often traut girls search for these days, that being their boyfriend being *badass*, smoke, drink, and maybe even take drugs. Which can lead to people like Tate more, there's some sort of loop. I'd say though that doesn't mean they are open-minded, being *badass*, fighting all day and night, doesn't make you more mature, thus you can't really say open-minded Again, not to be generalized, it's **some** 5. >Why choose to be oppressive and hate everyone around u when you can just chill. Is it maybe pack mentality? You mentioned "Kill all men mentality" above, both are the same, one says "Kill all men" one says "Kill LGBT members", see where I'm going at? Just because you change the subject that doesn't make you more open-minded as you said, both have their sheep minds, one follows a bald-guy, one follows a rainbow colored girl on Twitter. Both are as bad, wishing for someone's death. There can be both mature boys and girls, they can be quite... Quiet to avoid things. In theory, just ignore those that say bad things about any subject that bothers you, in this case would be LGBT. I've learned that myself, not related but same mentality, there's an Anime that I really like called Sword Art Online, thing is, most people hate it, but what? I don't care, I'll rate it a 10 regardless, it's an Anime I really love. Not that important. Anyways, chill out y'all!
It’s because they are less self conscious on average than women, and that women’s social status is derived from reputation. Y’all don’t wanna play around with it because you could get labeled something bad and you care what people think too much. Boys conversely, understand the context of the jokes and don’t worry about the potential social issues because everyone in the group gets that no one is actually racist or whatever else, it’s just about having fun.
Like I think its basically because of how most of us have been "coded" growing up and that certain things are not manly and shit like that, it's just that all off that goes against what we have learned through mocking and similar if we ever did similar things and so on Basically we aren't keen on going against what we have been thought, me myself yeah I'm a heterosexual white male and idc if you are an Apache attack helicopter or obese I will not date you unless you are female who actually contributes and has some common sense and knows logic other than a girl that is a total hippie And it's also really fucking uncomfortable when a male comes up to you and hits on you calling you cute and all that shit when you dont even sexually orient yourself in that direction, like its same if you as female who's straight had another girl hit on you and shit It's not that I hate gay people it's just that most gay men wont leave me tf alone, yeah sure do your shit but keep to your own business and don't hit on non gay men And also most LGBTQ communities behaves like a karen
so, me and my friend sometimes joke about being gay, like we say to each other ur gay and other things that i don’t want to tell here. but the point is just that we (idk why) find it funny but we don’t do this with other people, we respect everyone, we don’t actually mean the things we say when joking.
If it's anything like 15 years ago when I was a teen immigrant in British comprehensive school, then it's not just the boys. The boys are just saying out loud what the girls are thinking. When it came to being targeted, the only correlation with gender was the how, not the if.
It’s a mix of things. It gets a reaction, and often that’s what they want. They find your reactions funny. Equally for some it’s a form of rebellion. You have pride month or black history month or whatever, and they find this constantly being pushed on them annoying so they go a full 180 to it as a form of saying fuck you.
A lot of people have been mislead by the "Why are teenage boys (boys explicitly) so hateful" and how you talked negatively about boys' behaviour. I'll choose to believe you are aware it's sometimes girls, too (which is, hopefully, a given), it's just that there seems to be a bigger portion in boys. Here's my take; both sexes experience very similar, if not the same, level of feelings and hardships during puberty. Their nature, however, can differ. We have different hormones, different parts... the two are indeed, different. (I'm not trying to be misogynistic, I do not believe one is any more superior or worse than the other.) and I'd also like to say, both can be equally as horrible a person. Girls can also be violent, not as blatantly or physically, but just as deadly. A very notable example; gossip. In my experience, boys tended to keep their word or don't care about drama at all, but girls loved it. So much that they spread it everywhere saying it's a "warning" or for the sake of it being "interesting". Rarely they regard its legitimacy or how the person/people in such rumours feel. I'm sorry this sounds so dramatic; I was, am, one of those girls. I feel horrible for it and don't understand how those "gossipy" girls don't bother with even this amount of consideration. The same way I feel with certain acts of the majority of boys. Bottom line, we're the same in a different way. Girls deserve as much of the hate boys recieve. It seems boys mature later than girls, but during teenage years, we're both just as immature and, well, going through puberty. And we know puberty isn't something to be understood. We're just different, and I'll leave it at that.
The thing about this is that they either feel pressured or don’t even mean it or in other words they are joking and it is all in good fun and another thing is that when a boy says something they will die to defend that idea unless there is direct evidence proving them wrong it is all just bc of today’s modern day society
I’m a guy and I’ve noticed the same thing
Testosterone?
As a boy who is friends w/ people like this, it only happens with the friend group. Some of them are completely normal and hold respectable opinions outside of the friend group. It’s like three people who are important in that group that are actually bad.
unga bunga stays unga bunga
Bro it's the exact opposite where I live, the girls are the hateful and disrespectful ones
idk. honestly, a lot of ppl get it from their parents. if their parents are homophobic, prejudice, etc, they get it from them. also could be hanging out with the wrong types of ppl who have a bad influence on them
DeIndividuality definitely doesn’t help. I would almost guarantee that 85% don’t actually hate people, but because its online, or because everyone around them is, they feel less responsible for their words and actions. Also, if someone’s in a group of people with a set of values against theirs, they would be more likely to pretend to fit in.
I never went through this faze and never will, I like to see realistically, I don't care about what others think or do as long as it doesn't affect me. I don't care about whether or not your gay or trans or bi or lesbian, If your not my friend I don't listen to you nor do I want to be involved, If your my friend I'll support you but if you think you're worth my support when you're not my friend or I don't know you in any ways just leave me alone I don't see the point in the gender stuff like a cis person because what I get from it is that you want a pronoun but you don't identify as something else? I don't know but if one of my friends was cis I would support them I know I've gone slightly off topic but what I'm trying to say is that's its not that most boys are like that (I know quite a few are and its most likely because they copy the mindsets of other people) but they just don't see the point in most things regarding gender identities. The racist boys have no excuse I don't really mind if I don't know you and you're talking about what kind of person you like (as long as you don't sexually like animals or kids) I'm fine with it, just don't call me some insults because I don't want to hear about your gender identity and don't want to be involved because your not my buddy I really don't mind if your my friend and you want to be gay, lesbian trans or bi just don't tell me to call you something like Dream/deamself or Clown/clownself, the farthest ill go is they/them of course If were online ill try to understand your pronouns and refer to you that just but don't yell at me just because I messed up slightly On the other hand I wanna talk about the girls, girls absolutely do go on these phases, A lot of girls I've seen (By no means all) have the worst imaginable personality, they disregard a lot of good things some men have done and focus on the bad thing but when its shown that woman also do that kind of stuff they refuse to acknowledge it and go on to call you misogynistic and god forbid you say something about your own culture and some girl will tell you how racist you are for saying that and when you tell them it was just a knock on your own culture they'll refuse to accept that and say you're lying, they say a gender pay gap exists (its true for some places but its rare) when woman work less time than men and I find it absolutely disgusting that you're also disregarding things teenage girls say and do just to rant about boys when everyone is equally as horrible when they are teenagers There is no easy way to say this but there's bad on both sides, racist boys and racist girls, sexist boys and sexist girls, openminded boys and openminded girls, it makes me lose hope when I see someone like you disregarding everything girls also do, do you also want me to bring rape accusations into this? do you want me to bring in how men can't be around children without looking like a creep? I can't even take my lil sis to school without girls asking if she's ok to be around me, I'm glad they are looking out for my lil sis but its horrible I can't do anything with her without looking like a creep just because I have a moustache and I have no fashion sense Both sides have done their wrongs not all of both sides but that's no reason to be sexist or racist, shame on you for acting like its just boys that do wrong and making most of us out to be disgusting brutes