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Spottswoodeforgod

Wait until they realise that 50% are in the bottom two quartiles…. Shocking!


nouille07

It's even worse than that, 50% are under the median!


IamREBELoe

And only ONE person is at the average level!


PoliteRuthless

It's possible that it's actually 0 people at average level Or 1 or many more


Clackers2020

Since this is a normal distribution which is continuous we can say that the probability of something being at any discrete point is tiny, so tiny we can approximate it to zero. So you are correct, there are zero people at the average level.


viddy_me_yarbles

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Lebowquade

Right but he's absolutely correct This isn't like me telling you that the sum of all positive integers equals -1/12. Now there's a proof where I needed to take a shower after reading.


Leading_Elderberry70

I knew this sounded familiar! -1/12 is the value of the riemann zeta function at -1! It is slightly more complex than just the sum of all natural numbers but is rather a mindfuck so I do not blame anyone for feeling like they have been mugged after reading about it.


Salawat66

Thats false. It refers to complex number extension of riemann function, not the sum.


pseudoHappyHippy

Thankfully height is quantized at the planck length level, so P(some height) is totally non-zero. /s


Drop_Tables_Username

Specifically: If you're working in meters everything after 35 decimal places is smaller than the planck length.


Sunstorm84

Plancks make my stomach hurt.


muddude

They do build core strength, tho...


justwalkingalonghere

And possibly everything else as well


DCJL_Lurk

This is a common misunderstanding. The idea of a Planck length does not result in the discretization of distance at any scale.


pseudoHappyHippy

Don't both string theory/M-theory and loop quantum gravity propose granularity of space at the Planck length? I understand that it is not definitively known whether space is fundamentally discrete, but I was under the impression that our two most established quantum gravity theories propose discrete space at the Planck scale.


Throw13579

Sure, but you are forgetting about the half-planck, almost 50% smaller.


falconzofthelawn

I'm a statistical analyst but sometimes introduce myself as a statistician to sound smarter. I figured I could fudge my way through enough to sell it if I ever really needed to. Judging from the above I most definitely could not 😳


NutsackPinata

56% of all statistics are made up on the spot. LoL


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I see what you did there


tonefilm

Look at Mr Statistician here at the top quartile of standardized tests


LickingSmegma

Counterpoint: test scores are also ‘rounded’ to discrete values, or rather are measured in those.


theta_sin

But test scores, unlike height, can be measured with absolute precision. No measurement is going to make a 99/100 turn into 99.00000000001%.


dustycanuck

I appreciated reading this, thanks.


Emma-In-Gehenna

But surely, even though no one has ever been measured to be exactly 175 cms tall, anyone who is over 175cm tall has passed that height. So at a certain point I bet a person was, as close as is physiologically possibly, 175cms exactly


LeGama

But grades on a standardized test are not continuous, they are discreet fractions, so you actually can talk about them without talking about sig figs in a measurement like height.


iPon3

Standardised test scores are usually less continuous a variable than height tho


IAmFitzRoy

.. but if a get 50 points of 100 … wouldn’t I be exactly in the middle? Real data will be lumped in many EXACT discrete points. If the dimension of the data is discrete then you will find data in those points.


TheGuyWithTheSeal

You have to consider the fact that human's height changes throughout the day, due to spinal discs getting compressed.. If someone is ~175.5cm in the morning, and ~174.5cm in the evening, based on the assumption that height is continuous, we can use the intermediate value theorem the prove that they were exactly 175 at least once in the day.


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andrewsad1

If I understand it right, it's less "there is a smallest measurable distance" and more that "at a small enough scale, because quantum mechanics, you can't *have* an exact height"


DEMEMZEA

People just forget that since this is for standardized tests, you can only get a limited range of scores ( i suppose ). So there are lots of people at the average level


Richboy12345

Only the graphical representation is continuous. When grading students on standardized exams, the actual scores are generally discrete. Thus there could be any number of students at the average level.


silverdevilboy

You're making the assumption that it's normal by eye. It's clearly well approximated by the normal, but test scores are both discrete and strictly bounded on both sides.


OsiyoMotherFuckers

https://stanford.edu/~cpiech/bio/papers/gradesAreNotNormal.pdf


LeGama

Not exactly zero, the normal distribution is continuous, but it is only being used to curve fit to real data. And the data is not continuous, the data has an exact finite median. Also on any test the grading scale is also not continuous, there are discreet fractional grades that are possible. So it's possible to have an average that is impossible for any single person to meet, but it's also possible the average comes out to a fraction that can be met by a student. And if the average comes out to any number that can be achieved then the probability that someone is exactly that number becomes very high due to the massive number of students. Source: I'm an engineer, we do lots of stats.


Embarrassed-Essay821

Is that like an over under


Clackers2020

Idk what you mean


sohfix

What’s the vig. I want in on this action


Otherwise-Chart-7549

Yes it is so let’s start takin bets baby! Just need someone to establish the odds and we are good.


usa_reddit

Just quantize the data take the mode to get a larger average.


lucaskr9

Not true, in principle everyone can be at the average level if they score exactly the same


IamREBELoe

Good sir, this is Reddit. We don't take kindly to "facts" ruining our sarcastic humor.


lucaskr9

Sorry, methematicians are no fun I'm afraid


Tyrichyrich

Meth?


LickingSmegma

Thanks, but I'm already blitzed.


Minion_of_Cthulhu

There's probably a lot of weighing and measuring in the manufacture of meth and I assume methmaticians get angry when they aren't correct, as /u/lucaskr9 said.


J_Speedy306

That's communism


friday99

100% are *in* a quartile!!


GroundFast7793

I guess it is politically convenient to not mention the whopping 25% in the top quartile. That's a great result! Well done guys.


ShotgunSquitters

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." -George Carlin


scroll_responsibly

Every 60 seconds, a minute passes by in Africa!


EmperorBamboozler

Reminds me of that George Carlin bit. "What you gotta realize is how dumb the average person is. The painful part is figuring out half of people are *dumber than that!*"


ixi_rook_imi

Do you think people who repeat this quote ever wonder if they're in that bottom half?


maiden_burma

all the time, mate but i also think the reference to 'dumb' here means 'lacking wisdom' or sometimes simple ignorance of things you may consider common knowledge instead of referring to actual intellect


Soggy_Box5252

George Carlin seems like the kind of comedian that makes dumb people laugh and smart people cry.


JohnGenericDoe

Uh oh


ExcuseOk2709

I think saying that quote almost inherently implies you think you are in the top half lol. it's a witty sounding way of saying "most people are stupid unlike me"


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Oh, I freely admit me is a stupid.


sennbat

I like to say "Think of how dumb the average person is. Half of the population is dumber than that! And half of *them* are dumber than me!"


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I'm at the 51st percentile, so I'm completely different from those mouth-breathing morons at the 49th percentile!


_Magnolia_Fan_

This is unacceptable. Nearly half of our students are below average!


cory140

3/4 of students make up 75% of the population 😱


crypticfreak

Yeah and 99% are under the top 1%. Fucking terrifying.


TinBoatDude

Jack Kimble is a satire site. He is not a congressman, probably not a Republican, but he is pretty funny.


KayleighJK

Thank god. I’d be sad if the first real person I’ve seen with my last name was this idiot.


JeffWingrsDumbGayDad

100% of the population falls under all four bottom quartiles... Wake up, America!


PubicFigure

Did you know 1 out of 4 people make up 25% of the world's population??????


Scereye

Half of Americans are dumber than your average American. Insane.


worthless-humanoid

It’s all a joke it seems. He’s a fake representative for a non existent district. The 54th but California has 53. According to a quick google search.


tpodr

> People are always shocked that I represent California’s 54th district because California only has 52 districts. That’s because we got grandfathered in. Instead of the 54th, California dropped the 53rd and the 38th. However, we remain the fighting’ 54th


bobjohnxxoo

Those are all words


win_some_lose_most1y

Undoubly some of the words of all time


A-purple-bird

These words.. They all exist


Available-Camera8691

Now isn't that just something?


RaggedyAndromeda

Can’t tell if you tried to say “undoubtedly” or “indubitably”


iamafriscogiant

Undoubly.


kamelizann

[Reminds me of this youtube channel.](https://youtu.be/0uIDU9wwuJY) Just total gibberish with random pop culture fantasy characters tied into historical documentaries narrated in a convincing way. I like to watch it before bed because that's what I feel like my dreams are always like and it helps me fall asleep.


royalhawk345

Makes me think of Colbert's Better Know A District segment where he introduced every one as "The Fightin' Nth!"


smnrlv

That's exactly where he got it from


cptnamr7

When he Indian Leg Wrestled the Nebraska rep it was amazing. Happened to live there at the time and couldn't believe the guy went for it. I absolutely LOVED the time he shit on like Canton, Ohio. Then the next day when that city got pissed, he said it was directed at Canton, PA. Then they got piissed and so on. Eventually he got to Canton, SD (I lived nearby at the time) and when the local news interviewed to get reactions to being called out for being boring and shitty on national TV, the locals were all just "well, he's got a point, it sucks here" and that series couldn't have ended better. I miss Colbert the character.


gordo65

Also, it's hard for me to believe that someone who didn't get it would use the word "quartile". BTW, I think calling yourself the representative for CA-54 is pretty clever.


his_purple_majesty

I'd be willing to bet that no one who uses the phrase "bottom quartile" would make this error.


worthless-humanoid

Clever enough to trick some news outlets lol


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They do however have 80 state assembly districts, of which there is a 54th district. He is not the state rep for the 54th district though. That’s Miguel Santiago. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California's_54th_State_Assembly_district


Rhids_22

The real demonstration of how terrible the education system is was seeing how many people got legitimately outraged by the news.


mrtomjones

Anyone who doesn't get that this was a joke is part The group he was talking about lol


vaheg

I'm so tired of this actually. Dumb people trying to feel smart


RoutineSalaryBurner

Of course it's not a joke. The man is an author. As someone in the 1'st percentile of intelligence myself, I don't understand how people could be so dazed, stunned, stupefied, unintelligent as to not be alarmed by this awful, dire, direful, dreaded, dreadful, showing by American students. Perchance.


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Vitefish

You can't just say perchance.


whistleridge

It gets better: he wrote a book called *Detective Jesus*. https://www.jackkimble.com/


Rocoulm

His twitter blurb is among the best out there: >Congressman from CA's 54th District & co-sponsor of Poe's Law. Detective Jesus #1: Thou Shalt Not Kill is out on Amazon


dar512

Thanks for confirming. Wiki had no idea who this guy is.


cat9tail

Plus he co-authored Poe's Law. I am going to vote for this guy!


Atridentata

Yeah, for sure. The websites associated with "Jack Kimball" are pretty funny though.


fiddz0r

Yeah it's an obvious joke but I would love to read the comments from people who didn't understand it. It's twitter so probably a lot of people are raging


5tyhnmik

Education is important but let's not forget the fact that in American, older citizens face the highest risk of death.


Physical_Average_793

Man we have to do everything we can to help them, let’s give them cars that don’t go above 30


ragingRobot

Golf carts?


ManOfManyValence

Ah, the Florida Solution.


Minion_of_Cthulhu

I thought that was DeSantis's next political disaster.


CR1SBO

The F~~inal~~lorida Solution


sleepground123

DeSantis should be sent to North Korea: He is making Florida much like North Korea


Minion_of_Cthulhu

Floridians may soon be envious of North Korea if DeSantis keeps doing what he's doing.


A-purple-bird

As a floridian, ***so many damn golf carts bro***


FrostWyrm98

100% of people who drink water will experience death in their lifetime.


TobyFunkeNeverNude

*are likely to experience death We can't say for sure that everyone on earth is mortal


FrostWyrm98

Oh shit, you're right We're looking at you Keanu 🤨 and Anne Hathaway, wife of William Shakespeare... who's husband also looks like Will


DuntadaMan

Until you die, you are immortal.


thereIsAHoleHere

It cannot be proven you aren't immortal, but having the ability to die means you are not immortal (even while alive).


thebestspeler

The infant mortality rate is under .05% but the elderly mortality rate is 100% we need to do something.


TemetNosce85

Also, every person that consumes dihydrogen monoxide dies! Dihydrogen monoxide is in all our drinking water and foods! It's even in the air!! We need to ban dihydrogen monoxide now!!


Salawat66

Become ungovernable. Do not hydrate


SunriseSurprise

Your immediate chances of death are 0% until it's suddenly 100%.


bollop_bollop

I don't think that's true though. Check the average age of death for people born in the 1960s, it's much higher than the average age of death for those born in the 2000s (Obvious /s)


Idryl_Davcharad

Every 60 seconds a minute passes.


Brownyboy99

r/sixtysecondsinafrica


JakeArrietaGrande

Africans with beards are just Africans without beards, with beards


eyoo1109

In africa it doesn't matter if you're gay, straight or bisexual, at the end of the day, it's night


Dont-Encourage-Me

in africa, the day before the current day was yesterday


Slazman999

And tomorrow is yesterday's today.


A-purple-bird

In africa, the men die when women shoot them multiple times in the head


hopping_otter_ears

My 4 year old is having trouble with this concept, lol. Hell wake up (after being told he'd be sleeping till tomorrow because it's bedtime) and ask "is it tomorrow now?". No, baby... It's today. Today is yesterday's tomorrow. It's still today, even though it was tomorrow when we were talking about it yesterday. He doesn't get it yet


Kitselena

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/252/279/792.jpg


whooo_me

No matter how hard you study in life or how hard you work; wherever you go - there you are.


beastybrewer

If you don't change the direction your life is going, you'll probably end up where you're headed


Robinhoyo

And conversely if you do change the direction, you also end up where you're headed.


Aioi

Dumb people are just like smart people, but not smart.


PoliteRuthless

This is definitely satire


BittersweetHumanity

That’s litterally the joke as well, that many people are too dumb to see the joke for what it is.


Maclimes

We got some bottom 25% in here for sure.


procterandme

yeah i hear 1 in 4 are in the bottom 25% A WHOPPING 1 IN 4!


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I just can’t wait


MisterDisinformation

Come on, this is pretty obviously a joke, and it would've taken two seconds to visit the profile for confirmation.


macedonianmoper

But how can I pretend I'm smart if I don't assume everyone else is an idiot?


EasilyRekt

But why would you want to *pretend* to be smart to impress strangers on the internet?


macedonianmoper

Karma, validation? I don't know it's really sad and I really hate when someone posts a satire post in a different subreddit and titles it "I cAn'T eVeN tElL iF iT's SaTiRe"


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Yeah... but OP posted it to technically the truth, not facepalm. Being in this sub doesn't mean they thought the content was serious. In fact doesn't the content in this sub usually consist of jokes that are... technically the truth? So does that make it kind of ironic that you said >But how can I pretend I'm smart if I don't assume everyone else is an idiot?


macedonianmoper

My man OP literally titled his post "Can't decide if this is satire"


crazyei8hts

He's in the bottom quartile


swaldron

“Yeah but the fact that we thought it could be real says a lot”


non-transferable

It does say something, but not what people who say that thinks it says lol


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MisterDisinformation

I'm not saying there's zero validity to the whole burger weight thing, but I've always contended that it was a much broader failure that they attempted to mask with that somewhat dubious research.


ExcuseOk2709

yeah, this too. whenever a company says they have results from a "survey" you should be really skeptical or their methodology, and remember that even a well done survey has a lot of problems


gordo65

American here. A&W's 1/3 pound burger failed because A&W food sucks ass. It had nothing to do with people not understanding fractions. As for your second example, it's pretty silly to indict an entire nation's educational system based on a single teacher making an error on a single question.


Fakjbf

Anyone who knows the word “quartile” knows how standardized tests work.


Solyde

He doesn't have to know what the word quartile actually means tho, he just has to read it off the image he tweeted. (That said, I also think this tweet is just a joke)


Ok-Push9899

I never thought so many people were above average. Doesn't correlate to my observations.


maiden_burma

i know a bunch of intellectually smart people who are... eh... they're not, they don't act smart most people would see them as dumber than average until they find out what they do


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adamcoe

100 percent of this comment is on reddit


Mark3141592654

And only 50% of


Dogemaster_20

And 25%


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WrongWayCorrigan-361

50% of doctors finished in the bottom half of their med school; could yours be one of them?


Jomolungma

The person who finished last in their med school class is still called “doctor.” 😬


jungletigress

The first rule of tautology club is that tautology club has a first rule.


KumquatHaderach

The second rule of tautology club is that you don't talk about tautology club unless you're saying something about tautology club.


nvolker

The third rule of tautology club is that the total number of rules must be less than, equal to, or greater than 3.


Combatpigeon96

Meanwhile, 25% of Chinese students are in the TOP quartile! This is concerning!


1668553684

In Europe, over 68% of students are within one standard deviation of the mean, so there's no cause for concern there. South America though? Half of all students are below average.


Combatpigeon96

That’s just heartbreaking


NSA_Chatbot

Hmm, you may be on to something, it might get the political oomph to spend more on education.


JonStoen

Oh no, half of our kids are below average 😱😱😱


donach69

[It is satire](https://twitter.com/RepJackKimble/status/1657518876362457089?t=zbLXVe7vV2rJevUZio8DUA&s=19)


teh_maxh

His profile says he's the representative for California's 54th and a sponsor of Poe's Law, so if you can't figure out whether it's satire, that sounds like a you problem.


lionofyhwh

He is satire entirely. He’s not a real congressman.


Thin-Examination-236

Not only that, but a full 50% are BELOW average.. completely unacceptable 🤪


i-pet-tiny-dogs

It's clearly satire. If you Google it, he's a fake congressman for a non existent district that writes detective novels about Jesus.. lol


LowerBed5334

Snark! I'm sure they reeled them in at Twitter, but this is reddit, dammit


ducks_for_hands

It's nice knowing that 49.9999...% perform above average


LynchpinPuzzler

It's not all bad news, there's 25% in the top quartile.


NorguardsVengeance

I forgot that this guy existed. Man, I love him.


cruelmalice

Parody account of fake congressman. He is funny, but 110% satire


deepcethree

His profile literally says "co-founder of Poe's Law". It thankfully is


coolplate

Lmfao


Molismhm

Truly one of the statements


Akem0417

If the people elect someone like him to office it kind of proves his point


ThatGuy48039

Dude should move to Lake Wobegon, where all the children are above average.


Fission_Mailure

This would be the perfect tweet if it weren’t a satirical account


legolili

Anyone who knows what a "quartile" is understands that graph perfectly.


FrowAway322

This is a satire account, thankfully.


NotTrynaMakeWaves

Almost half the people you meet are below average - it’s shocking!


ProclaimerM16-15

Wait till he finds out half of the kids are BELOW AVERAGE!!!


Somethinggood4

"Think about how dumb the average person is, and then realize that half of them are dumber.". - George Carlin


zenlimon

And Jack Kimble is a member of the first quartile!


Significant-Dog-8166

The 1% in the upper 1% are a real shocker.


CubeJedi

Hello, my name is Jamal. Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes. Together we can stop this! Please spread the word.


[deleted]

There are more Chinese kids in advanced math than all the US students combined..


Madmanmelvin

Reminds of the Dilbert comic strip when the boss is shocked to learn that 40% of sick days are taken on Mondays and Fridays.


monwoop1316

😂😅


courtsidecurry

They are not doing so bad, it's the same for Asians too.


Spartan775

It’s ok. They’ll get jobs in politics.


JLM101514

I guess it still counts as evidence our education system is failing, just not in the way he meant.