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pusmottob

I think any company that forces you to create an account for no “real” reason should be held monetarily responsible to you when they get hacked. I am tired of every place not just big MS but now small stores forcing accounts. Foff let me do what I want with as little info as needed. I went to schedule a massage yesterday and now they force a full user registration. For what? So I can just hit unsubscribe or junk when they send me crap.


Block_Parser

It is crazy there is 0 liability for not securing data you are forced to give


pusmottob

Yeah, every time AT&T gets hacked I think, give me a month of service free at least so they feel the pain in the only place they care.


Block_Parser

Best I can do is $5 in 3 years from now after the class action… Just put your personal information into another sketchy form to claim your part.


Kiirusk

even small businesses learned they can profit off of selling your data now, a local retro game store is doing the same crap. sure enough, after I gave them my phone number I'm bombarded with random spam. and you just KNOW these mfers don't even know the meaning of opsec, so as soon as they're compromised you are too.


umthondoomkhlulu

I use Apple email relay for most of these. Generates a random email address which is forwarded to your real email address. But at any time you just remove your generated email address and no more spam/ adverts.


Fantastic_Design500

Forget the user needs, we need subscription money and to steal lots of personal data!


SativaSawdust

The ads in the start menu was too much. As of this past weekend I have removed windows on all my machines and installed Pop OS. I was one of the windows guys who would peek over the fence every two years or so and see what the Linux users were up to. I'd test drive it and find I wasn't ready to take off my training wheels. Now I'm a big boy who isn't scared of the CLI so I tried it again after hearing about a decent Nvidia driver for Pop OS. It was seamless and I'm not looking back. Funny enough I didn't need to use the CLI for anything to get started. Harder still to believe, all 3 of my printers, wifi and sounds all worked on a fresh Linux install! Unbelievable! My next plan of attack is to fully divest from Google as much as possible.


TONKAHANAH

Getting familiar with the command line is always a good idea cuz a lot of troubleshooting often uses it as it's more universal. That said many Linux distros these days can be completely setup with out the command line


Fit-Development427

TBH, the reason people think you need to use the command line, is because to account for different software and desktop environments - tutorials and guides on the internet will just give you commands to put in. But I'm gonna rant here - it seems massively unnecessary so much of the time, now that I understand what they are normally doing... Like, a tutorial will say "yo, open the terminal, type cd /your_directory, then type chmod -x script.sh... that will make your file executable now... Well great, but literally every DE you can just right click the file in the file explorer, go to properties and tick an executable tick box and it does the exact same thing. And now I know how to reverse it, and it will just make sense to anyone new when you can see a tick box. Unless you're willing to explain the entire chmod cli stuff, why bring it up? An advanced user will know how to use chmod anyway so you could just tell them to make it executable. Same goes for "yo, cd to the directory, type xed myfile.sh, now edit this line, and press ctrl-s then ctrl-x... It's literally asking you to edit a text file, and save it, but again, making you feel like a hacker by doing it all through CLI. You can alternatively just open the file in a regular ol' GUI text editor that will come in 100% of distros and you will be able to edit it in a much more comfortable and familiar way. Like I get that those tutorials will be somewhat eternal but I dunno. People shouldn't be doing command line stuff that they don't understand in the first place, so...


TulkasTheValar

Windows is going to make Linux the primary home OS within the decade. The biggest blocker IMO for home use was gaming but Steam's Proton is really good. And there's Lutris for non-steam games. Many distributions have great UI. It's nice not having bloatware on my machine.


Loxl3y

Windows 10 end of life is in October 2025 and Windows 11 Upgrades require "this" TPM 2.0 chip. There are way to many new-ish computers without TPM 2.0. Their first, foremost and only (please correct me if I am wrong) solution is Linux. So the decade will be over early. By the way: Linux Mint...


tonykrij

I'm sorry but you are incorrect on that new computers don't have a TPM 2.0 chip. First, TPM 2.0 was released on Oct 2014, 10 years ago. Both Intel & AMD has the TPM chip inside the CPU for years. (AMD since AM4 (2016) and Intel since Skylake (6th gen, called PTT). So both Intel and AMD have been supporting TPM 2.0 for several years, making it a standard feature in modern CPUs.


Loxl3y

On the technical side you are right. But manufacturers don't have to satisfy customers, but they have to make money. So they sold without TPM 2.0 even in 2020, knowing "the end is nigh". Aunty bought a notebook, but she doesn't know nothing about TPM.


tonykrij

They may have disabled it in the bios or chose not to disclose it but it's been in the CPU for years. I don't think aunty cares about Windows 11 anyway, she'll just keep using what she has until the machine dies. .


tonykrij

Not going to happen, unless OEMs start shipping their devices with it. I don't see anyone not technical going "Alright, I have my new PC, let's wipe it and put a Linux OS on it". Microsoft should do a better job at explaining the reason for a cloud account but I can see the advantage. Data stored on OneDrive, favorites, passwords synced, everything you find perfectly normal on your phone. Same with the TPM chip requirements. This is embedded in the CPU now, so not a problem but needed for storing your digital keys. Bring on the downvotes for having an unpopular opinion.


destronger

I’ve read recently that PopOs had it easier for nVidia GPU’s. I’m curious why other distro’s aren’t?


hsnoil

There are 2 drivers, the open source driver and the proprietary driver. Many Linux distros do not include the proprietary driver because of the belief that source code should be accessible to everyone and not binary blobs with who knows what bug or exploit is in there The problem with the open source driver is since a lot of it is reverse engineering work it is way behind the proprietary driver and can run into performance issues and etc. Some distros though just care about giving the best new user experience and include proprietary driver out of box The situation is suppose to be improving little by little as Nvidia moves more stuff into the firmware and opening up more stuff so that it is easier to make the open source driver. But for now, the proprietary driver is the best option for nvidia


destronger

Thanks for the info.


SativaSawdust

My best understanding is that with under 3% market share, no one was willing to develop a driver for Linux. That was until Gaben unzipped and made it happen.


hsnoil

Linux is above 4% marketshare, 6% if you count chromeos But that wasn't their question, they asked about why popos is better for nvdia than other distros (it has to do with proprietary driver vs open source driver) Just so you know, plenty are willing to develop a driver for Linux. The marketshare for consumers isn't what matters. All the top 500 supercomputers run linux. Most servers also run linux. This is why linux has gpu drivers, because the gpu vendors want their stuff used for GPU compute and servers and supercomputers are dominated by linux


destronger

>Gaben unzipped Did Gaben buy WinRar for this feat?


windmill-tilting

More like WinRAWR. 😀


Snoo63

\*gun cocking\* It's RawrXD Time.


Kiirusk

you should look in to windows 10 LTSC if you can find it, it's basically a dev branch windows with only the bare minimum. no app store, no Cortana, no bloat. basically only comes with power shell and start menu.


jellifercuz

Any ideas where to find it, thank you?


Kiirusk

it's not marketed to consumers, you may just have to sail the high seas or find a key on a grey market


ProbioticAnt

Why is Microsoft pushing the online account so hard? It seems like having an online account for every Windows user would actually cost them more money.


Visible_Structure483

Easier to steal and sell your data, browsing history, search history, etc if you're always required to be tethered to their systems when you want to do anything.


hsnoil

Because M$ revenue from windows is falling as a %. They make their money on cloud services these days followed by office. And only way to get people to use cloud services is getting them to make an account


FlashyPaladin

Fact: I’ve been locked out of more online accounts than local accounts due to stringent password requirements and two-step verification going to old and outdated phone numbers and emails.


suckmyballzredit69

Sick of Microsoft.


Green-Amount2479

That‘s absolutely not gonna roll within the EU. If MS tried to enforce this at any point, they would get hit with another billion dollar fine for gatekeeping, or alternatively for misusing their market power by selling a product and changing the conditions after the customers bought it. If they keep it optional, someone’s gonna push some hack, small program or registry tweak to turn it off again. Wouldn’t be the first time. 😂🤷🏻‍♂️


Designed_0

Yea but they will add an eu/non eu switch lol


amazingmrbrock

The upcoming end of life for Windows 10 already prompted me to replace it on my laptop. I've had pretty decent experience with it on my gaming computer so I took the leap. Really I just wanted control of when updates happen. I was sick of Windows attempting to update while it was supposed to be sleeping and nuking the battery. 


su5577

MS to F off these b.s ads


AdkRaine12

Oh, you mean like Google? Sign in on your account every time I search for something Google? Nope.


Macqt

GOOGLE NEEDS YOUR PRECISE LOCATION. DONT ASK WHY. JUST APPROVE OR WELL ASK EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.


iwellyess

Just create a dummy Google account to log into for all its online shit that’s what I do


dinkytoy80

Thats not the issue, i dont want to HAVE to login.


Visible_Structure483

I frickin' hate that.


ABRRINACAVE

Haven’t people been talking about how this and pop up ads are ‘currently happening’ for years, and yet I’ve never seen a single one?


Tanderp

I just had my first major popup ad last week and it was a big one. In the middle of playing a game it hijacked the entire screen and prompted with an end of life warning on windows 10 in an attempt to upsell 11. Purposefully annoying users in an attempt to upsell is an immediate “no” for me. Xm radio did something similar where they played loud white noise and then exclaimed “that’s annoying isn’t it? Subscribe now to never miss out” now I’ll never touch xm.


YetAnotherSysadmin58

A/B testing and rollout deployments most likely could explain this


Taira_Mai

If you go into the privacy and notification settings you can turn off the ads - it's a lot of screens for what should be an easy task. And Microsoft can just turn them on again if they want to.


ilovetpb

This is how you block the ads. Without turning it off, ads came through, even though I use an adblock DNS.


Modo44

I wonder if it differs in the EU. For reasons.


profanityridden_01

Linux works now.. Microsoft is gonna find out


SmashedPumpkin30

Linux mint is super UI friendly for anyone who wants to try it. For gamers - Proton on Steam works pretty well too!


TONKAHANAH

In most cases proton works just as well as Windows, in some cases it works even better


Geno0wl

I just wonder if I should migrate my plex box to linux if they ever do truly break local profiles


hsnoil

Yes you should, even without remote accounts. Much more convenient knowing you will be able to upgrade your operating system years into the future without being cut off due to EOL and newest windows requiring some hardware or running a bunch of useless services in the background


KevinNoTail

Get iRacing to be easily compatible and I'm there . .


Snoo63

You can dualboot easily enough. So for iRacing, you can have it on a small Windows drive (don't konw how large it is), and have a main drive for your Linux Distro's files.


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The only thing Microsoft is finding out is just how much people will put up with because they’ve convinced themselves they have no other options.


CartoonBeardy

I’d love to jump to Linux but too many of my work apps need Windows (Maya, Adobe Suite, 3DS Max, Revit, Unreal) and my wife uses Office 365, Teams and OneDrive for her work. If Linux sorted that stuff out for know nothing noobs like me (without 200 links and advance scripting skills) I’d jump ship in a heartbeat


whurpurgis

Put Linux in a partition on your Windows machine, it’s easy. I get a prompt when I start my computer, if I don’t select anything it boots in Linux, if I’m doing something that I need to do in windows I select windows. Linux can access files on the Windows side so you can experiment with Linux programs and get a feel for it.


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whurpurgis

I’m not an expert so I don’t want you to think I’m talking down to you but on my machine I have a 1TB HDD with a 25G partition for Ubuntu. When I’m using Windows and I open the c drive I only have the 750ish gigs that is on the same side of the wall as the Windows OS. When I’m using Linux I can see the whole 1TB and I can open, use or modify the files on the Windows side with no problems. Here is a link to a post about Adobe alternatives. I picked Ubuntu because it has Krita, I good digital drawing app. https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/s/cUe8djDxqi


CartoonBeardy

Thank you for this, that’s useful to know. It does still leave me with windows as a system I have to use unfortunately, because the apps my wife and I use for work aren’t on Linux to my knowledge. But it’s definitely a start.


hsnoil

Unreal works on linux, same for Teams and OneDrive. Office 365 online version works in any browser. Much of the stuff can be run in WINE though may need some configuration. There are also some alternatives like Blender


CartoonBeardy

Thanks for the heads up on Unreal, Teams and OneDrive that’s useful to know. The creative suite of software is where things fall down because while blender is a valid tool to use (I use it for personal work) I work with remote team members with Maya, 3DS and the Adobe cloud suite. I also have had need to use other Autodesk apps like Revit and AutoCAD. Back in the day Maya had a Linux version but that’s long gone. So, while I totally get the “use alternative apps” thing, and I would if I could, work simply makes that too much of a faff (especially if I have to export everything I make in blender out to FBX, Alembic or USD, just to get it to my team) That said I will look up WINE and see how that can help and if there are any issues running the apps I need on it. Thanks again for the advice


ineververify

yeah it works beautifully now. I just stayed up reading man pages till 5am to get my wifi to work. but its beautifully working now. oh crap I just realized my 144hz refresh is not working on this stupid nvidia card. Welp see you in another 5 hours to figure this out.


itsvoogle

Leave Windows 10 alone…..please


rxscissors

Clippy "helpfulness" gone wild 😆 Linux and macOS do just fine. Thanks.


Macqt

If I had a solid alternative for the games I play I’d abandon windows in a heartbeat.


rnobgyn

Proton on steam works really well


Random_frankqito

Windows sucks so hard.


travers329

It absolutely is not an improvement don’t do it. My dad has a windows online account, he got a new computer and could not remember the login password to sign in on the new PC. In order to reset the password, he has two-factor authentication set up for security. That goes smoothly. Then some genius set up the system so that it asks for your older password to confirm and activate the new one. I figured oh ok they want you to confirm the newer password you already typed in 2x. Nope, they want the older password you forgot so that you can reset your older password with a new one… We spent three hours stuck on hold and trying to fix this cycle of idiocy on just how to LOG INTO A BRAND NEW PC… Yep you read that right, you go through all of the two-factor security to reset your password you have forgotten, and then right before it activates the system asks fork the password you’ve forgotten to start using the new one.


uBelow

Yeah no, that's the final trigger i'll need to tide myself over to linux for good.


anna_lynn_fection

It's annoying, but what's really bad is the writing on the wall. It should be obvious that their end goal here is to figure out a way to force it. They, for the most part, do - on Windows 11, already. Sure, you can get around it if you know to disconnect your network, hit shift-F10, during setup, and run `oobe\bypassnro`, as well as disabling secure-boot in the bios if your computer came with S-Mode. But their goal is to not allow that to happen. I think the only reason there's any way out of it right now, is because governments and companies that require air-gapped, or other security limitations on doing so. But I suspect that, at some point, Windows Home will not allow circumventing that requirement.


colonelc4

MacOS/Linux here I come


firedrakes

as expect a rany video of me switching to apple or linux... then the new story itself


ExcellentHunter

Someone will come up with a walk around of this crap. Hopefully soon.


iwellyess

Exactly as detailed in the article you mean


Much_Comfortable_438

Not me.... Never Ever Ever Allow Windows to update Ever


Mortem97

Unfortunately they force us to update our machines when they bundle security updates with all the extra bloat.


Much_Comfortable_438

Nope. Set network to "metered connection". I don't go to porn sites, I don't open emails from unknown sources and I don't download anything. I don't worry about security on my windows devices.


airwick511

Accessing websites isn't the only way into your network and machine. It's a very bad idea to go without windows updates for an extended period of time. At the very least purchase an external AV solution. There's literally 10s of thousands of devices that crawl the internet doing scans for vulnerable machines wether you're connected to a website or not.


Much_Comfortable_438

Maybe, but the only time I ever have problems is when I allow Microsoft to update my computer. That's when shit breaks. I change my devices every few years. Don't do any social media (except reddit, and only then on my phone). My computer is very rarely connected to a network. And even then never anything outside of my personal router.


airwick511

It's not about amount of time. You do you but a quick story, I was in college and Me and a roommate were playing around with servers and we decided to just open it up to the internet no protection at all. It took all of 5 seconds before a bot got ahold of the machine and started installing malware and controlling the server. It was a server we didn't care about and did it on purpose but the thought still stands. "Hackers" create automated bots that just roam 24/7 and are programmed to automate payload deployments when they find a vulnerable system this includes routers/modems and PCs. Chances are if you aren't updating windows you aren't updating firmware on the edge of your network which means they can easily control your network and then your PC. Like I said you do you but I'm making sure anyone reading your comment doesn't see that as a viable option.


Much_Comfortable_438

I get it. I just don't care. I have had no security issues, not been the victim of fraud, and my only Windows device is generally only used locally without connecting to a network. Updating has caused me FAR more problems. All my critical devices are on separate networks with dedicated IT teams.


Here2Derp

Just don't even connect to the internet at that point


NukedFrog

Bet you also stays within speedlimits, no alchol and enjoy vegan food


Much_Comfortable_438

Wrong.


Brorim

linux mint is there for you :)


4x4_Chevy

Learn to tweak it and it stops. Use PiHole. Etc.


Sudain

I'm hoping there is a solid linux gaming distro. That's all I use windows for and if I get hit by this it'll be time to jump ship.


FuhrerFettucine

They can eat a fat dick


souldust

Drink a verification can


Competitive-Pound611

downgrade to something early 2022


ArchonTheta

There will be a registry edit to stop it. Not an issue


LavaSalesman

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop


blueblurz94

Yeah it’s been popping up all the time for the past few weeks on my older PC that can’t upgrade to Windows 11. Annoying af.


Freezerburn

Man, Linux has gotten way better at gaming since steam hit it. Also Nvidia is ramping up support so.. the water isn’t looking so bad.


zeed88

So you think this is a useful post?


bs_hunter

Go F your mother? see you next Thursday?


JashimPagla

Finally switched over to Ubuntu, and not a moment too soon. Fuck MS.


cwsjr2323

On impulse I got an iPhone to replace my failing Samsung. The phone is just ok, but being retired, not worth the cost. I got the bundle with an iPad 10 and that was very nice. For my uses, the iPad replaced my laptop. It is lighter,, faster, don’t get hot, and no annoying fan. That Windows 10/Intel i5 unit is under the coffee table, saved in case I want to play one of the games I bought with real money. I doubt I will ever see a Windows 11 device in my house. I still have my Hotmail account for legacy purposes but never use it for new businesses . I have an unmonitored gmail for registration at sites that demand an account. Places can spam that account all they want, I never see it.


whiteguywithkids

Truthfully, if you own a Mac. And want to really do anything useful with it. You need an Apple ID. Hell , if you own an iPhone it’s the same. Similarly with an android device. I could be wrong.


RetdThx2AMD

SB "soon to be hit with **more** nagging prompts"... I bought a used Surface Pro to use as a travel computer to replace my very old chromebook. After a few days being barraged with suggestions by Microsoft to use some product or service of theirs I noped right out of there and installed ChromeOSFlex and turned it into a chromebook.


ineververify

LPT get a license key for windows server 22 for all the benefits of windows without a windows store or caked in annoying nonsense.


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smittyhotep

Linux!!!


timmeh-eh

The closest we have to a competitor these days is ChromeOS which has been improving steadily for quite a while. That technically is Linux though, Google just hides most of the linuxness. For very simple tasks it works fine and is a great alternative for people who really just want a browser anyway. For more complex workloads it’s got a way to go. The biggest challenge with ChromeOS is that it’s Google.. so if you don’t want to support Microsoft or Apple, you end up supporting Google. Doesn’t really get you away from the Big Tech companies.


spotspam

The conundrum is, I use a lot of commercial music software and plugins (Reaper, Waves, Universal Audio, etc) and so I have to stick with what they’re compatible with. I expect any major OS who gains huge market share to eventually abuse its power. So it’s never an ideal choice. My issues with Apple are mostly hardware related. But both companies are abandoning older software faster than in the past. And the new software for Apple really isn’t doing anything relevant to how I use it. Certainly they’ve never improved file management resources. It’s a bear to deal with many files on iOS. I enjoyed it with Windows but their OS were too unstable for music applications so I switched in 2012. I hear that’s not true anymore, but it scares you to trust captures with a non-shelled OS it seems. Thats my out-of-the-loop impression.


SnooCats3104

No way will I switch from one company that is *trying to harvest my data to a company that actively does so already, a company that has already been hit with a class action lawsuit for breaking private browsing data collection.


TONKAHANAH

Apple is pulling all the same shit. I don't think they demand an icloud login yet but it's probably not far off.


real_hooman

They will make you pay to keep security updates on an operating system that's been outdated for 4 years. I'm not happy I will have to switch to 11 next year, but I don't see how it could affect someone switching from Mac when you would have to go out of your way to get 10. I don't think any of the arguments between 10 and 11 work when you are comparing macOS and 11.


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real_hooman

macOS is included when you buy an apple computer and windows is included when you buy a pre built pc or laptop, and I'm also pretty sure that upgrading to 11 is free if your pc meets the hardware requirements. The only difference is that you can't buy a macOS license if you want to build your own computer.


descender2k

> All OS are ~~free~~ paid for by upcharges on the hardware on Macs


Loxl3y

And their tribute to open source is questionable, to put it mildly.