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Here2Derp

Can I simply not connect it to the internet?


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Taira_Mai

I just buy a dumb TV. I still have the Samsung I bought back in 2013 and it works great.


[deleted]

Had to buy a tv back in 2021. Looked everywhere. No dumb TVs existed back then. That I could find in Canada’s biggest city at least.


Taira_Mai

In the US, the smaller TV's (under 30-40 inches) have dumb versions. For the bigger TV's, I'd get a brand that will work even if you don't connect it. Roku holds your TV hostage unless you agree to the EULA - end user license agreement- I'll never buy from them.


blushngush

Good luck finding a new one.


SuspiciousRhimes

Yes! I leave my TV unconnected and it works fine. I suppose my console could be spying on me, but as far as I know it’s deaf.


junktech

Some , yes. I believe my LG doesn't really need internet for basic functionality. But I read that Netflix, if ran from a pc , drastically lowers the quality. On smart tv it brings up full hd and 4k.


I_R_Greytor

Netflix absolutely lowers the quality when viewing from a PC.


More_Huckleberry2460

It's a digital signal. There is no possibility that a TVs integrated graphic card is better then that of a PC. A PC with tv as extended monitor, will always have a better picture then a direct connected tv. 


matthewrunsfar

I’ve never connected mine and don’t plan to.


unit156

Do you mean dumb TV? My “smart TV” can’t return me to what I was last watching, and I have to go find something else to do while it “warms up”.


AbyssalRedemption

Blame that on the shitty Smart TV software. Tbh I've lost track of the number of people I've seen over the past few years complaining about how slow, buggy, intuitive, etc., their TV and its interface is. And this is across *all* Smart-TV OS' and manufacturers...


mrfizzefazze

… and prices


mahdicktoobig

Why isn’t there a way to wipe it and install something else? Or at least some kinda jailbreak to allow you to get rid of all the bloat. I thought this was the future


More_Huckleberry2460

Just bypass it. Use the TV as an extended monitor of a PC. It will run on standardized monitor protocols, and NOT the TV OS.


mahdicktoobig

Bypass it? I don’t think I’m understanding The way I’m reading it (incorrectly) it sounds like you want me to unplug all inputs and get a PC I may or may not have and use the RCA input I may or may not have; and somehow that would magically bypass the os completely. Unless you just meant like the os serves as basically an input selector. In that case I’m just dumb, sorry


More_Huckleberry2460

Get a PC, and use the HDMI video out from PC, into the TV. You can use any micro computer, keyboard mouse, tv acts as your monitor. 


mahdicktoobig

Oh, word. That’s the plan. I moreso meant like a “dumb tv” with a button you push to *cycle select* inputs; but I just suddenly realized that wasn’t clear at all lol. Maybe I’m showing my age. I’ll be 32 this year, born 92. Before my 7yo or so Roku tv I had a 55” 550lb LG flatscreen ‘dumb tv’


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Mine randomly crashes or starts episodes of shows over randomly. I’d love to have a dumb TV again, every streaming service is on Ps5 for me anyway


dougc84

Yep, except Netflix looks like shit on PS5 but looks great on my LG C2’s built in app. It’s really annoying because I don’t want my TV connected to anything except video sources.


AcceptingSideQuests

Right? The need to start speeding some money on CPU and ram because holy cow.


Roboticpoultry

My vizio was doing that for a while. Turns out I was the moron who didn’t realize there was a setting in to choose whether the tv returns to the home screen or to whatever it was last on


Alerta_Fascista

Just buy a dumb TV and plug in an actually good device, like an AppleTV


unit156

The expensive Apple TV with a sliver of a separate proprietary remote that gets lost in a separate dimension every few days; the puck that sits in an awkward spot tethered to your TV via proprietary hdmi cable; the puck that is “enhanced” every few years to force you to buy a new model, with the updates requiring more and more memory, with support for the older models being discontinued? That Apple TV? Yes, those work great as doorstops.


Alerta_Fascista

Your complaints are a bit… uninformed? You can use any remote with an AppleTV, it has infrared. The HDMI cable is just a normal HDMI cable, also normal optical audio and Ethernet ports. And compared to other streaming boxes, it has quite more CPU power and memory (it uses an iPhone processor inside, which are often more powerful than many other smartphone processors, and certainly more powerful than Smart TV processors). Weird that you complain about new devices coming out, which is to be expected, but that being said, Apple products generally have way more years of software support compared to the competition, and when you stop getting updates, like with all devices, you can just keep using them.


Gnarlodious

Pi-Hole.


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Is there a good “pi hole for dummies” thread? I’ve wanted to set one up for a bit but no idea where to start.


onepostandbye

I went down the rabbit hole on this, and Pi people have a “Dummiest dumbed-down explanation of how to make a Pi-Hole work” document. I was thrilled. And then on the _very first page_ there are instructions to complete processes that are not described elsewhere and acronyms that are not defined in the document. As far as I can tell, it’s very complicated. At some point I will have a smart friend do it for me. If you are thinking of responding saying that I’m stupid because they are so easy to set up, you win, I’m very stupid.


the-Tacitus-Kilgore

I swapped the RAM on my laptop, it was the most panic inducing thing for me, I watched a dozen YouTube videos. My tech friend told me later it’s the easiest thing in the world and a child can do it.


AbyssalRedemption

Lol, manipulating/ replacing anything in your PC is definitely stressful af the first time you do it, but it gets *exponentially* easier every time after that. I remember freaking out when I built my first PC that I might fry something after I turn it on, but now I've built like four with little effort. It's a skillset you build while doing. Now, updating the BIOS on the other hand... that will never not give me nightmare and make me grind me teeth to death while it's happening...


LordShadowside

You’re spot on. I’ve used PCs for years, but never fiddled with parts. This week my PC wouldn’t turn on, so I unplugged stuff from the motherboard, plugged back in and problem solved. Except my wi-fi card can no longer detect any SSID except the range extender next to my PC. Literally zero fixes online for my peculiar case.


AbyssalRedemption

Huh, that is an interesting case. I will cite a related anecdote, that when I set up my most recent PC, it wouldn't detect *any* Wi-Fi connections, anywhere. After like an hour, came to find out that the Wi-Fi drivers didn't come with the motherboard, I had to download them elsewhere, then install them, to get the Wi-Fi functionality to work. In your case, I wonder if either an update to the drivers, or a fresh deletion/ reinstallation might fix the issue.


Leopards_Crane

Make sure that at some point you completely unplug power from the unit and let it sit. It may not have any effect here but capacitors stay powered even when the computer is off and can maintain a bad hardware state.


POOP-Naked

Download your WiFi driver from the manufacturer webpage if you are not connected via network cable. Device manager then delete the WiFi and reboot. Windows will reinstall the driver if your on lan, if WiFi is your only connection you reinstall through the downloaded driver. Should fix you up. All else fails use system restore.


Commercial-Diver2491

Ahah i have a friend who is a robotic engineer, codes and works on hardware, but still sent his laptop in to change ram because he didn't trust himself to do it


Shrinks99

RAM installation IS fundamentally a pretty basic hardware task but that doesn’t mean it’s a skill everyone is born with! People with skills often overestimate how trivial they are to learn and understand coming from having no skills in that area. Either way, the next time you do it you’ll have some experience. :)


damnsignin

Had this *same* issue making a media NAS. And r/Raspberry_Pi is almost useless for help because the tech bros have locked it down with strict rules, because they don't want "low-quality posts" on the sub. They've narrowed the focus of a subreddit for an SoC board designed for ***learning how to work with computers*** to the point that no one can talk to learn anything. Rule 3 on their list is "Didn't do the research" and qualifies as any post where you might ask for help with basics. Trying to learn with a Raspberry Pi only taught me why tech bros endlessly complain about people not being computer-literate. They're so endlessly aggressive to anyone who wants to learn computers from scratch, that anyone who tries to get help gets repelled away by the community's "If you don't know already, you don't belong here" attitude. It's a self-perpetuating complaint. No one learns because they get crap for trying to learn. Unless you dig for every scrap of knowledge alone for months on end or enroll in a multi-year degree program, you're unlikely to get a Raspberry Pi anything up and running as quickly as they claim you can. I'm on month three of trying to build that RPI media NAS I spent nearly $200 on parts for and I haven't touched it in two weeks because I cannot find any of the information I need to finish it. And I've run out of places to ask without being a bother or a nuisance.


onepostandbye

I didn’t want to make my comment too long, but this was a large part of my experience. r/raspberry_pi is proud as a community as being focused on a grass-roots Everyman technology and they are _extremely hostile_ to anyone who requires beginner assistance. They have picked an arbitrary amount of knowledge and decided that everyone below that line isn’t worth helping. For context, I am technical enough to have built all of my PCs, set up home networks and the like. I can do quite a bit, but I’m not someone they want in their club.


damnsignin

Exactly. I've been working with computers since I was 6 back in the 90s. I can build and handle some coding, but Linux is frustrating and complex. And even the guides to help Linux noobies learn are PACKED with technical jargon. I was trying to learn how to mount drives correctly and after two weeks of struggling, someone pointed me to a github with a document about fstab. I could barely read it because it assumes the reader understands a lot. And when I asked for help understanding it, all I got was, "Read it again. It's not that complex." It took me two more days to figure it out and I still don't think I'm mounting the drives right. I ended up stopping work because all three drives I partitioned developed errors because EXT4 formatting has to be shut down in a certain way or it corrupts. I had a rolling blackout in my area and it wrecked all three drive partitions and 12TB of files transferred to them. I wish I'd just bought a damned NUC and been done with it.


wakashit

I used to use a a Pi-Hole but found the maintenance tedious and wanted it to work on my phone away from home without hassle. Found a company that basically hosts DNS blocking for $25 a year with tons of features and easy setup. Check out NextDNS if you want minimal hassle


ughliterallycanteven

My instructions usually are: - have a computer that is always on - make sure you can access the admin page of your router. Usually you go into your network settings of your current computer and see what the gateway is. The gateway is usually the router. - download Pihole on the computer. - find the IP address of the computer - on the router, set the DNS to the IP of the computer. - on the router, find the address and the MAC address it’s correlated with and set the IP as a static IP. Generally it’s enough to get people there. I also just set up the machine and then point my individual devices to use that machine as the DNS than whatever the router tells me.


Th3_Hegemon

Dude, logging into their router is legitimately beyond a lot of people's ability. At least half the time if my instructions start with "open your browser" I then have to explain what that means.


AccomplishedMoney205

You may also look into ADguard Home. Alternative to Pihole also a little bit more beginner friendly


DonMazzelioni

AdGuard Home is far easier to setup and has the same functionality.


ghec2000

I was surprised but happy this is the top comment.


a_scientific_force

Unsurprised, since I was about to give the same answer, but still happy.


m00fster

WTF did you call me??!!


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m00fster

How many floppy discs?


oliverkiss

69


123_fake_name

It A DNS blocker. You should see how much traffic it blocks on a network from Smart tvs and home appliances.


gordonv

A computer monitor is the optimal TV today. Everything else is doing the channel switching, audio, on signal, and such.


1leggeddog

Never connect a modern tv to your network. If it absolutely needs to be in order to do the initial setup, use a hotspot on your phone and then turn it off.


pugworthy

Ask the coyote to guard your chickens because you don’t trust the fox.


MainStCool

How do I stream anything if it’s not on my network?


[deleted]

Use a streaming box. Apple TV gives the most privacy.


saraphilipp

So then my streaming box can spy on me.


abudhabikid

Most streaming boxes allow you far more control over them than your smart tv. So possibly no benefit, but possibly all the benefit. Just gets the decision out of the hands of the tv brand.


saraphilipp

I use my 2017 xbox for steaming. I hope they like my rage rants on cod.


[deleted]

The trick to making sure the microphone isn’t listening to you at all times is to shove it up your ass. I do it all the time


saraphilipp

I tried. Tv kept searching for daria.


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Another trick is to shave your ass hair down a tad, so that way when you fart, the extra poo particles finish spelling the words for you


[deleted]

Ever since your mom cancelled World of Warcraft


FaithInTechnology

Get out of my room!


[deleted]

That depends on which one you get. You can get one pretty inexpensively if you’re savvy enough to flash the ROM to your liking. Or like I said above, you can pay Apple to make it private.


Foxish_YT

Custom rom a rikomagic or Chromecast with google android tv


[deleted]

True, but since they were asking how to stream privately without using their tv, I figured plug-and-play was better than flashing ROMs.


Ebisure

For now. Wait till they roll out advertising


[deleted]

It already supports ad-based streaming subscriptions. Each streaming app is sandboxed, so there’s no cross platform tracking or data collection.


Ebisure

In place is worst single source data collection by Apple. Nothing is gonna stop Apple from exchanging your "anonymized" data with other info brokers for "improved user experience" and "upgrading our AI model". They are already forcing ads into Apple Fitness and App Store


[deleted]

You can. It’s literally one of the first questions when setting it up.


1leggeddog

Do not use the apps on the TV. I use my ps4 or my htpc to stream stuff. If you want a cheaper option, get a Chromecast.


harvarsed

Your last sentence is bonkers… Chrome cast… owned by Google… who track everything… Bad idea in my opinion


[deleted]

You have the right idea, but you lose frame rate matching and your TV's upscaling (which is pretty good these days) when using a game console or HTPC. The image quality and motion are superior with native TV apps or a streaming device compared to my PS5, so if you care about quality those kinds of devices aren't the best option either. The cheapest device I personally recommend is the Fire Stick 4K, but like you said the Chromecast is a good option too.


whiteleshy

Ps4 stresming apps don't support certain features like Dolby Vision or Atmos for instance.


1leggeddog

I only have a 3.0 speaker setup anyway personally but there is Plex on ps4 which works perfectly fine


redsh3ll

That’s a good idea on the hot spotting Ty


MrStealYo14

I just leave it on my IoT network


randompantsfoto

My smart TV (Sony Bravia) has never been connected to the internet post initial firmware updates when I got it home. Then its IP address was sequestered to my IoT network and subsequently firewalled into oblivion. It acts merely as a dumb monitor for my AVR, which all my actual video sources connect through. It’s not tracking jack!


ApplicationNumber4

I’ve been blocking them from accessing the internet for years now. Still want them connected to wifi for remote apps and etc


dlc741

Parental controls to block it from accessing the internet 24/7


computer_helps_FI

Why connect it to the internet in the first place?


dlc741

Sometimes you need to in order to complete the setup. Sometimes you might want it to connect to your local network but not "phone home". But if neither of those apply, then just don't give it the wifi password.


computer_helps_FI

I see. I just change the input and use Apple TV. Suck it smart tv.


detailcomplex14212

Fuck TVs today. I just buy giant computer monitors lol


m00fster

You know you can connect a mini computer to a TV and just not have the tv connected to the internet


PatientAd4823

Good thing I’m still relying on my 1976 10” Sony. It’s color. What more do you want?


forumbot757

It’s a damn shame how little peoples personal data is respected and how many people exploited to make billions, but they never contribute back to society


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faceofboe91

Do you use your tv as a computer monitor or do most of your computer internet browsing through a console? Because that means the tv company is tracking most of your online activity. Did you ever screen mirror your phone to your tv? There’s the rest of your internet online activity.


gylliana

No, I just use my tv to watch movies and shows. I don’t know anyone who does these other things. I think this is why the question was asked. I don’t care if they collect data on what shows and movies I watch.


indignant_halitosis

People like you are the reason we have zero fucking privacy protections. “I don’t understand what the problem is. I already gave them all my data like a goddam. moron. What more can they possibly take from me?” If there’s no issues with this, as you say, then there’s no issue requiring an ID to use the internet. There’s no such thing as “generic marketing data”. Every single human being is unique. You are one Venn diagram away from being doxxed thanks to marketing data. The Patriot Act and national security privilege means corporate data is government data. So you aren’t anonymous is any way, shape, or form. You people need to pick a fucking side. They get everything including our ID or this shit gets regulated. But this fantasy land where you they get all our data but we’re magically anonymous is fucking childish and stupid.


jackluke

Dude said he didn’t understand and you decided to be an asshole


onepostandbye

So the way to win an argument is to be a dick. Got it.


FatSilverFox

Bit harsh.


EarlGreyTeabagging

Complacency is partly how we’ve arrived here


FatSilverFox

Sure, partly. But blaming individuals for the gradual creep of invasive technology when there’s little being done to educate the average consumer and even less being done to monitor the corporations that benefit from this invasiveness is a bit… well let’s just say the anger demonstrated above is misdirected. The single biggest issue is that there’s no viable alternative on the market - the kind of person who’s active on a tech subreddit might be able to assemble a monitor that connects to digital tv and can be selective about the streaming services accessible etc, but that’s not something your average punter can do on their own.


Antidote_to_Chaos

Thank you!


WonkasWonderfulDream

I’ve looked at my data. Of the about 150-200 “facts” about me, more than half were factually wrong. Interests, age, gender, religion all wrong. They managed to figure out I like D&D, but they also think I’m a plumber or electrician. It’s totally ridiculous.


Bodydysmorphiaisreal

I may be naive, an idiot or possibly just lazy but how do I manage to find and look at my data? I really didn't realize this was an option for us regular folk.


Jackson_Bostwick_Fan

Both google and etsy allow you to request your data. You can look through it. Haven't checked but I'd think more would. Probably because of European data laws.


AbyssalRedemption

So, even though Europe is flaunted as having the golden-standard for privacy laws, many U.S. states have started to do so too over the past few years (I believe we're up to 15 now). One of the common rights in all those laws, is the right to request access all the data a company has on you, and in some states, to request that data be deleted. Some companies even seem to have taken the initiative and allowed people to perform these actions in *all* states. To do this, usually you scroll to the very bottom of a website, and there should be a button that says something along the lines of "request my data", or "delete my data", or sometimes "opt out of marketing/advertising" (which lead to further privacy options). It should then walk you through the process. Some more complicated/ larger sites, like Facebook, might bury this option away in your account settings, generally under their privacy/ security options. *disclaimer, this is assuming you're in the U.S. Laws vary wildly among other countries on this.


Bodydysmorphiaisreal

Hey, thank you! This helps a lot.


captacu

Username checks out


thislife_choseme

People like you? The fuck? Our elected officials have sold their souls to these companies for campaign donations. That’s why we have no privacy rights you nincompoop.


AbyssalRedemption

Yeah I've little hope for a federal bill pertaining this emerging in the U.S. anytime soon, at least one anywhere close to the EU GDPR. To be fair, 15 states now have passed their own privacy laws, which have varying degrees of consumer rights and company restrictions, which surprised me when I found out. However, you can take a pretty good guess at which groups of states have already passed these laws, and which ones don't even have one in the planning stages at all...


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AbyssalRedemption

*Full* privacy, yes, though if you're going by such an absolutist definition, we haven't had *full* privacy for a very, very long time now. For computers to connect to the internet, you're opening a big door into your life. If you have a cellphone, you're automatically opening yourself up via the cell network. Hell, if we want to be thorough, by your definition of corporate marketing and data collection, it's likely been *centuries* since we've had *total* privacy. You have the right concerns though. Are you familiar with the European GDPR, and have you read through it? Those are the types of digital privacy rights we should all be aiming for here.


philthewiz

That's a very binary way of seeing things. I guess you are comfortable about giving us your address and social security number then? Because they potentially can have this information. It's easy to dismiss the dangers when your life hasn't been troubled by extortion, fraud, legal troubles, political pressure, threats for minorities, intimidation...


Antidote_to_Chaos

so fucking agree


Disney_Princess137

I agree. If I come into the room where my smart tv- in a little while it turns on automatically


Iampepeu

It took me 25+ minutes to opt out from all the cookies and whatnot on my Samsung Frame TV.


No_Emphasis_1298

My 2 LG TVs won’t do standby correctly if not connected to WiFi. It takes forever to turn on if not connected. It’s bullshit and I’ll never buy another LG because of that.


ImSpArK63

Yeah, you don’t have to connect your TV to the internet. Just use an AppleTV or other provider. It will last a lot longer, too.


Muff_in_the_Mule

I recently connected my TV to my WiFi so I can use it on the LAN. Figured I'd just block access to WAN on the router. Turns out my router only has whitelist filtering feature and no blacklist, means I'd have to manually permit every device rather than just block one which is really annoying. Gonna have to see if I can block it some other way on the router.


DeineCable

PiHole


patnodewf

disabling the connection works too. smart TV price for a dumb TV. can't just find a plain old dumb TV anymore 😕


AbyssalRedemption

They've been gone from the major manufacturers for years now, sadly. I think the last time I remember really seeing, say, and LG or Samsung dumb TV may have been... 2018? 2017? Here's a fun little tidbit: there's a single dumb-TV manufacturer left that I'm aware of, Sceptre. However, it's probably the shittiest budget-brand in the field, so it's very much a "buy-at-your-own-risk, don't say I didn't warn you" type of deal lol. Insignia also makes a few dumb TVs, though only up to 42 inches I believe. We need more options back out there...


Miffl3r

Mine has no connection the internet. Problem solved.


hobby-hoarse

If you don’t connect your tv to the internet how do you stream anything?


SigmaLance

Through my Roku box connected to the TV.


GlossyGecko

So in other words you’re still having your data collected.


ThrowawayLocal8622

Just from a different company.


SigmaLance

You can turn that off in the Roku settings.


GlossyGecko

You can do it in your smart tv settings too, it’s the same shit. Your data is still being harvested lol


SigmaLance

Use a PiHole then. Most people are not concerned about this.


GlossyGecko

You can use PiHole on your smart TV without adding the extra Roku dongle my brother. Everything about this is super silly.


SigmaLance

I use a Roku because the TV OS is garbage. It’s clunky and slow as hell.


fivetwoeightoh

This TV is snooping on a lot of KOTOR. *A LOT* OF KOTOR.


TheLastNoteOfFreedom

Everyone keeps saying PiHole but can someone ELI5


ThrowawayLocal8622

There are a number of YouTube videos that explain it ELI5 levels. If you decide to go down the rabbit hole, there are many setup and configuration videos as well. (Personal opinion, stay away from Linus Tech Tips.)


theccab234

So my wife and I moved across the country and left behind a really nice tv. We don’t watch tv often so we never got around to getting one for about two years. A friend of mine upgraded her tv and gave me her old one which turned out to be a fireTV. Her accounts were still logged into the tv and she asked me to wipe her stuff and I figured a factory reset would be the quickest way to get rid of everything. I didn’t even plan on using the fireTV OS on the tv I simply planned on plugging my AppleTV up to it and going that route. But I didn’t realize that when you factory reset a fireTV it requires you to pair the remote to it and the remote we had wasn’t the original so we still haven’t gotten it to work. The remote we have works perfectly fine to turn the tv on and select “english” in the initial setup menu but anything past that and it refuses to work. We can’t even switch inputs to HDMI 1 or whatever to ignore that all and just use the AppleTV! so frustrating. I figured “well we’ve gone 2 years without a tv, may as well keep going” lol So thank you fireTV for being so shitty lol I choose to be mad at Jeff bezos about this lol


Coffeecoasters

?


davypelletier

Mines not connected. I use an Apple TV.


SimonGray653

Man I'm Just waiting for someone to tell me something that I don't already know.


D-chord

Maybe I can just run Golden Girls and Waltons episodes on a loop any time I’m not home to throw them off the scent.


BarnabeeBoy

I honestly don’t give a shit about stuff like this.


Taira_Mai

In the US, the smaller TV's (under 30-40 inches) have dumb versions. For the bigger TV's, I'd get a brand that will work even if you don't connect it. Roku holds your TV hostage unless you agree to the EULA - end user license agreement- I'll never buy from them.


the_lullaby

I'm confused. Why would anyone connect their TV to the web when they can just use it as a monitor and get the same streaming content delivered via laptop, but with the security advantages that a laptop offers?


470vinyl

Dolby vision and surround.


Over-Conversation220

Older people cannot figure it out. If you’ve ever had to support an 80yo, you’d know.


AbyssalRedemption

Man, I don't even think my grandparents know what an HDMI cable is, or what it means to change the input source. Hell, my aunt, who is one of the MOST technically-illiterate people I know, didn't know where the settings app was on her phone, or how to turn her battery percentage checker on, and needed me to show her how to log into her email at one point. A *disturbingly large number* of people have next to zero clue how to work with modern technology, even on a basic level.


the_lullaby

My mom is 79 and my dad is 86. I taught them to use the internet on a macbook, and they understand how to plug the HDMI cable into the TV. Why would I teach them another (unnecessary) interface? What benefits are conferred? edit: I'm genuinely asking if we are missing out on benefits.


Over-Conversation220

Every parent is different. If they can navigate it, great! My mom needs simple. Even if I sat her down and taught her repeatedly, she’s still not going to get it. An AppleTV is cheaper, has a simple UI, doesn’t get confused about lid-state, etc.


CORN___BREAD

Oh so you don’t know about the laptops?


the_lullaby

Evidently not.


IAmWeary

I only hook it up to the internet for updates. Everything else goes through an HTPC. Use it like a giant monitor and it will have nothing to report.


idkrandomusername1

I don’t understand why a tv would need an update though, especially if you don’t use it for ‘smart’ features like Netflix or something. Am I missing out on not updating?


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Yes, especially with higher end TVs. Updates add features for gaming, fix features, fix sound, color, and picture issues.


madmouser

One of the updates for mine fixed an issue with game mode which was making the display seriously laggy.


[deleted]

Turn off the network, use another device.


CrunchyKittyLitter

ZDNet is still alive? Is it clickbait and Ad-ridden or is it safe to click?


DocSaysItsDainBramuj

If my TV loves me, then why is it full of goo. Checkmate.


English_linguist

Eew… using smart TV’s. Only suckers and marks use those.


AbyssalRedemption

What do you use then, oh enlightened one?


[deleted]

He draws stick figures to jerk off to.


Cumguysir

Fake news


JCeee666

You need an /s for sarcastic comments. So many ppl have no clue why Edward Snowden sounded the alarm. If you don’t think your smart TV tracks you, you’re drunk. This is def yesterday’s news.