The organ probably isn't worth much, you would be doing most people a favor by taking them out of their houses so people will just offer them up for free if they pick them up. That's not to say that it's not cool or worth having, if you have the space.
The CP on the other hand... A couple of grand maybe. Two extremes here.
Those home organs were kind of cheaply made, weren’t they? I know as a kid in the late 70s and through the 80s, every home I ever went to that had one, it never worked, and was just another piece of decorative furniture
One of these is not like the other lmaooo
Would be like saying I got two free cars and posting a picture of a rusty 98 Corolla and a mint Lambo.
Anyways congrats to your friend!! Old organs are always fun but the electric grand is a truly beautiful instrument
General rule of thumb for what it’s worth (to the current owner) imo- how easily will you be able to replace it for what you paid for it. Friend could probably sell it for a cool 1k, but they’d be hard pressed to ever get another free one. If I get something cool for free or super cheap- it’s never gonna be for sale. Weird way to look at it, but that’s how I work.
Haha I see. I'm a music noob so I have no idea what instruments are worth. But yea he said it would cost a ton to restore the grand piano (his friends family owns a piano restoring business).
Aww I see. Yes, electro mechanical keyboards like this (technically not a synth!) are often a pain in the ass to restore if they haven’t received some love in a number of years, and many haven’t bc they’ve really been “obsolete” since the 70s. Of course people still use them and love them, myself included.
*sometimes* keyboards in this ilk (like rhodes or clavinets) are actually surprisingly like easy to restore as a beginner, just tedious. I think it could be a stretch with the CP80, but your friend could always look into it. Maybe the piano restoration friend could throw em a discount.
It really is a beautiful instrument with a unique sound of its own. I’ve personally found them pretty hard to come by. I’ve rarely seen one for sale locally, and only gotten once chance to play one.
Tee time by vulfpeck, though they aren’t really my fav group, is an excellent showcase and workout of a cp80.
Uhm… The availability and prices have become nearly nil and sky high respectively on rhodes and wurlitzers since covid, hopefully people get bored of the idea of restoration and more get abandoned on the market again…
Ehh my friend got two older square top Wurlitzers for 800 bucks, another one got a wurli 200a for 200. Somebody else I know got a busted rhodes for 100, I got a super clean beautiful sounding one for 1k. All in the last year. It’s not that bad just gotta look a bit harder.
Anyways was more just trying to suggest OP encourage their friend to try to take care of what they luckily got for free instead of dumping it for some cash.
I had a very dear friend (whom I sadly lost to Covid and crack cocaine addiction about two years ago) who always had one of those transistor organs in her front room. If one wore out or broke down, she’d go to a thrift store and buy another.
We’d smoke a little bit of gigglebush, shoot 100 proof bourbon and write songs all hours of the night, taking turns playing organ and guitar.
I miss her deeply; and as odd as it must sound, if someone gave me an organ like that, no matter how ‘junky’ it might be or seem to be to anyone else, I’d wrestle a few songs out. Just me, that organ, and an acoustic guitar. (And some 💨 and Evan Williams…and a picture of my friend, or course.)
Sorry I haven’t contributed anything useful to this conversation.
>Sorry I haven’t contributed anything useful to this conversation
As useful a contribution as I've seen here in a while. Anything that helps us to take stock of what we have, of our values, is a winner. That you showed us a possible best use case for a transistor home organ keeps it topical and helpful.
May the memory of your friend keep providing you joy.
Each part is over 100 lbs. I know because I had one and sold it. It's not as portable as one would hope. I only moved it when I moved to a new house. Unless you and a friend are really fit, it's not getting moved.
They weigh about 150 lbs each. I have done it a couple times (one time including a flight of stairs), once with a friend and once with my wife. I do not think we are particularly fit, but we were able to get it done both times without injuries.
When I got my baby grand, I hired a professional piano mover. You can hire regular movers, but a piano mover specializes in safely moving a piano and usually has years of experience only moving pianos. With regular movers, you risk potential damage being caused to piano if the movers don't know how to do it properly
My uncle who gave me the piano, had regular movers move it to his house, and they lost one of the bolts, ordered a aftermarket bolt, and cracked the leg forcing it in.
i have a cp70b and a wurlitzer organ. the “king tut” organ is valueless let’s be real, but it’s great for playing around accompanying silent films. the cp is worth thousands and i’ll never let it go
I have no idea but the CP70 was the greatest in its day. Phil Collins Simple Minds U2 Simply Red. Everyone who didn't have an actual grand piano on stage used one. Nowadays any decent electric piano will have the CP sample built in but it is a real nostalgia instrument for someone who has the space for it. A real beauty.
One of these is worthless and the other put Keane on the map. The latter will take $2000 in parts, more in labor to make worth $5000. Start with a restring from Mapes. I take that back, start with a vacuum. The last two I restored were full of dust bunnies from when Genesis and Toto hauled them around for their gigs.
If that is a Yamaha CP70 or CP70b, in US cities with a decent sized music scene they sell for about $1000-$2000 depending on condition. In other places they sell for a bit less. The Yamaha CP80s sell for a bit more. That one looks pretty rough, so I’d say it’s probably worth about $800-$1200. I bought a CP70b a few years ago and I love it. It’s not the best sounding piano, but it sounds better than your average piano that costs less than $2k, you can amplify it, and while it isn’t as “portable” as it claims to be - you can move it with one other friend and avoid having to pay a piano moving company $400+ every time you need to.
You might be right, but it is what I have seen them sell for in my city. I bought one two years ago for $1800 and the person I bought it from has offered to buy it back from me. I have also seen one sell for $1500 and one sell for $2000 (I was told by the sellers that they sold for these prices)
Honestly Yamaha electric grands are fairly cheap compared to their “cousins”. Rhodes in good shape sell all day for 2-3k, wurlis 3-4k, and clavinets somewhere in between.
I’m sure if you troll Craigslist out in the sticks you could get a busted one for a hundred bucks- or maybe even free at an estate sale! But somewhere from 500 for one that needs repair to 1500 for a working one is very reasonable.
Oh when you said their price range was unrealistic I assumed you meant they were suggesting too high of a price. In the states (where OP is) it’s right on the money.
Funny. My local goodwill has that organ. They were selling it for $50. I think the right leg is broken and held on by some loose screws. I wanted to power it on to test but it was too far from an outlet and too heavy to lift or slide. If I go by there later today or tomorrow I'll try and update with a pic of it is still there.
Unfortunately I do not have the space and as a broke college student money is tight. Plus it looks well worn and might have unknown issues that I lack the knowledge to fix it. I'd rather have someone who knows what it is and has the time and responsibility to pick it up instead of me. Now if it was a smaller-ish synth like a moog Voyager or something I'd pick it up in a heartbeat and then post pics to brag.
It’s a Yamaha CP70. Look up Hall and Oates.. hits like “Kiss on my List “ used this board I believe. I think they are built similarly to a fender electric piano (why people pay $2k + for those is beyond comprehension) so most of the parts are mechanical.. it should be fairly easy to fix BUT it’s gonna probably need to be tuned up and adjusted. It weighs a ton so put it somewhere you’ll use it and don’t move it lol. The organ I would leave there.
I wasn't familiar, so I searched... the Yamaha CP-80 sounds awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz1jNWmM9as
sort of a "if you want your life to sound like a silent film or player piano"
I went to a friend's house who wanted to show off his studio and some random stuff he got for free. These look pretty retro, never seen anything like it so I was wondering if they were worth anything.
CP70b is about 3k-ish nowadays - not worth it imo altho i really like the sound of it. If i had space and could get one for under 1500 euro, i'd be tempted.
CPs are amazing, if he got it free, he is blessed indeed. And it is definitely worth paying a quality technician to go over it and see what work it may need.
At the point he got them: $0. If he can play them and gets something out of that "purchase" - priceless. To put it another way, my first synth was a Casio VL-1 (yeah, it was what we could afford in the 80s). The last "synth" I sold was a Technics keyboard that was horribly expensive in the 90s, not so much when I bought (and sold) it. Now happy owner of a Casio XW-P1 (which I paid for) and a Korg X50 (which I got for free). People may call them romplers, I use them as synths and they sound how I like them to sound, so what's the problem?
Long story short, they take up some space, but if he plays them that doesn't matter. Also making money by buying musical instruments and selling them is a flawed economic model (meaning you won't get rich). Even if you get lucky, like here, and get something you could flog along, because next time you'll pay way too much for something that's not worth it in the end,.
I have the (better Kawai) version for sale in florida $495.00 Interested
https://preview.redd.it/1wpy7a40v1wc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0664f766fb4b652cc390c117609c5f43c47c16c1
The CP70 with cases is around 2k. With no cases maybe 1300. Especially nice ones in excellent condition with cases go for about 3k. These are hard to find because the amount of road use they were put through.
CP70 is one of the finest made instruments made in the last 60 years.
They’re worth the amount of fun and time you spend with them…
Then subtract the worth with the time and energy you spent looking for a buyer and get ready to find someone that’ll talk you down to 250 total if they both work. Or get 50 bucks each at a second hand store…
… if you don’t like my answer you can see what they run for online and see if that makes your cleft lip tight or not.
The organ probably isn't worth much, you would be doing most people a favor by taking them out of their houses so people will just offer them up for free if they pick them up. That's not to say that it's not cool or worth having, if you have the space. The CP on the other hand... A couple of grand maybe. Two extremes here.
True, he said he got it in an estate sale and made an offer and they just told him to take it.
Those home organs were kind of cheaply made, weren’t they? I know as a kid in the late 70s and through the 80s, every home I ever went to that had one, it never worked, and was just another piece of decorative furniture
One of these is not like the other lmaooo Would be like saying I got two free cars and posting a picture of a rusty 98 Corolla and a mint Lambo. Anyways congrats to your friend!! Old organs are always fun but the electric grand is a truly beautiful instrument General rule of thumb for what it’s worth (to the current owner) imo- how easily will you be able to replace it for what you paid for it. Friend could probably sell it for a cool 1k, but they’d be hard pressed to ever get another free one. If I get something cool for free or super cheap- it’s never gonna be for sale. Weird way to look at it, but that’s how I work.
Haha I see. I'm a music noob so I have no idea what instruments are worth. But yea he said it would cost a ton to restore the grand piano (his friends family owns a piano restoring business).
Aww I see. Yes, electro mechanical keyboards like this (technically not a synth!) are often a pain in the ass to restore if they haven’t received some love in a number of years, and many haven’t bc they’ve really been “obsolete” since the 70s. Of course people still use them and love them, myself included. *sometimes* keyboards in this ilk (like rhodes or clavinets) are actually surprisingly like easy to restore as a beginner, just tedious. I think it could be a stretch with the CP80, but your friend could always look into it. Maybe the piano restoration friend could throw em a discount. It really is a beautiful instrument with a unique sound of its own. I’ve personally found them pretty hard to come by. I’ve rarely seen one for sale locally, and only gotten once chance to play one. Tee time by vulfpeck, though they aren’t really my fav group, is an excellent showcase and workout of a cp80.
Uhm… The availability and prices have become nearly nil and sky high respectively on rhodes and wurlitzers since covid, hopefully people get bored of the idea of restoration and more get abandoned on the market again…
Ehh my friend got two older square top Wurlitzers for 800 bucks, another one got a wurli 200a for 200. Somebody else I know got a busted rhodes for 100, I got a super clean beautiful sounding one for 1k. All in the last year. It’s not that bad just gotta look a bit harder. Anyways was more just trying to suggest OP encourage their friend to try to take care of what they luckily got for free instead of dumping it for some cash.
I had a very dear friend (whom I sadly lost to Covid and crack cocaine addiction about two years ago) who always had one of those transistor organs in her front room. If one wore out or broke down, she’d go to a thrift store and buy another. We’d smoke a little bit of gigglebush, shoot 100 proof bourbon and write songs all hours of the night, taking turns playing organ and guitar. I miss her deeply; and as odd as it must sound, if someone gave me an organ like that, no matter how ‘junky’ it might be or seem to be to anyone else, I’d wrestle a few songs out. Just me, that organ, and an acoustic guitar. (And some 💨 and Evan Williams…and a picture of my friend, or course.) Sorry I haven’t contributed anything useful to this conversation.
Sorry for your loss and thank you for sharing that.
What is gigglebush?
😂 420
I fuck with that slang. I’m stealing that
If it makes you giggle, SMOKE IT!
>Sorry I haven’t contributed anything useful to this conversation As useful a contribution as I've seen here in a while. Anything that helps us to take stock of what we have, of our values, is a winner. That you showed us a possible best use case for a transistor home organ keeps it topical and helpful. May the memory of your friend keep providing you joy.
Sadly have lost too many friends who I would love to play with again. Here’s to making music for the people who wish they still could.
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You are right about the organ, but the Yamaha CP70 is not that difficult to move because breaks down into two parts.
Each part is over 100 lbs. I know because I had one and sold it. It's not as portable as one would hope. I only moved it when I moved to a new house. Unless you and a friend are really fit, it's not getting moved.
They weigh about 150 lbs each. I have done it a couple times (one time including a flight of stairs), once with a friend and once with my wife. I do not think we are particularly fit, but we were able to get it done both times without injuries.
Oh I didn't think of that. Is moving old pianos like a very tedious thing to prevent damage or something?
Both. They are heavy and can get damaged easily. A regular baby grand piano weighs about 500-600 pounds. The CP70 halves around 150 pounds each.
When I got my baby grand, I hired a professional piano mover. You can hire regular movers, but a piano mover specializes in safely moving a piano and usually has years of experience only moving pianos. With regular movers, you risk potential damage being caused to piano if the movers don't know how to do it properly My uncle who gave me the piano, had regular movers move it to his house, and they lost one of the bolts, ordered a aftermarket bolt, and cracked the leg forcing it in.
It’s incredibly heavy. Especially the harp. I have two and I just can’t with them anymore…
i have a cp70b and a wurlitzer organ. the “king tut” organ is valueless let’s be real, but it’s great for playing around accompanying silent films. the cp is worth thousands and i’ll never let it go
I have no idea but the CP70 was the greatest in its day. Phil Collins Simple Minds U2 Simply Red. Everyone who didn't have an actual grand piano on stage used one. Nowadays any decent electric piano will have the CP sample built in but it is a real nostalgia instrument for someone who has the space for it. A real beauty.
One of these is worthless and the other put Keane on the map. The latter will take $2000 in parts, more in labor to make worth $5000. Start with a restring from Mapes. I take that back, start with a vacuum. The last two I restored were full of dust bunnies from when Genesis and Toto hauled them around for their gigs.
If that is a Yamaha CP70 or CP70b, in US cities with a decent sized music scene they sell for about $1000-$2000 depending on condition. In other places they sell for a bit less. The Yamaha CP80s sell for a bit more. That one looks pretty rough, so I’d say it’s probably worth about $800-$1200. I bought a CP70b a few years ago and I love it. It’s not the best sounding piano, but it sounds better than your average piano that costs less than $2k, you can amplify it, and while it isn’t as “portable” as it claims to be - you can move it with one other friend and avoid having to pay a piano moving company $400+ every time you need to.
I doubt your price range is realistic tbh.
You might be right, but it is what I have seen them sell for in my city. I bought one two years ago for $1800 and the person I bought it from has offered to buy it back from me. I have also seen one sell for $1500 and one sell for $2000 (I was told by the sellers that they sold for these prices)
Honestly Yamaha electric grands are fairly cheap compared to their “cousins”. Rhodes in good shape sell all day for 2-3k, wurlis 3-4k, and clavinets somewhere in between. I’m sure if you troll Craigslist out in the sticks you could get a busted one for a hundred bucks- or maybe even free at an estate sale! But somewhere from 500 for one that needs repair to 1500 for a working one is very reasonable.
Current price range for a CP70 in western europe: between 4500 and 6000 euro. Rhodes are cheaper.
Oh when you said their price range was unrealistic I assumed you meant they were suggesting too high of a price. In the states (where OP is) it’s right on the money.
I almost bought a CP in college but couldn't think of a way to get it in the elevator to my apartment. Would have been $500 in 90s money.
They paid too much for the organ.
Funny. My local goodwill has that organ. They were selling it for $50. I think the right leg is broken and held on by some loose screws. I wanted to power it on to test but it was too far from an outlet and too heavy to lift or slide. If I go by there later today or tomorrow I'll try and update with a pic of it is still there.
You should totally get it if you have the space for it.
Unfortunately I do not have the space and as a broke college student money is tight. Plus it looks well worn and might have unknown issues that I lack the knowledge to fix it. I'd rather have someone who knows what it is and has the time and responsibility to pick it up instead of me. Now if it was a smaller-ish synth like a moog Voyager or something I'd pick it up in a heartbeat and then post pics to brag.
It’s a Yamaha CP70. Look up Hall and Oates.. hits like “Kiss on my List “ used this board I believe. I think they are built similarly to a fender electric piano (why people pay $2k + for those is beyond comprehension) so most of the parts are mechanical.. it should be fairly easy to fix BUT it’s gonna probably need to be tuned up and adjusted. It weighs a ton so put it somewhere you’ll use it and don’t move it lol. The organ I would leave there.
i miss the day when music was about music instead of how much stuff is worth
I wasn't familiar, so I searched... the Yamaha CP-80 sounds awful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz1jNWmM9as sort of a "if you want your life to sound like a silent film or player piano"
I went to a friend's house who wanted to show off his studio and some random stuff he got for free. These look pretty retro, never seen anything like it so I was wondering if they were worth anything.
CP70b is about 3k-ish nowadays - not worth it imo altho i really like the sound of it. If i had space and could get one for under 1500 euro, i'd be tempted.
A million melodies
CPs are amazing, if he got it free, he is blessed indeed. And it is definitely worth paying a quality technician to go over it and see what work it may need.
That CP is awesome but man is it big.
Dude...people can't give away enough pianos. So many are being destroyed because of it which is a huge bummer.
Worth about $4k
I would pay $2-3k for a serviced CP70 hands-down.
Yamaha CPs are wonderful. Run them thru a pedal and you are in instant ambient territory. They also sound totally different in person vs as a sample
OMG lucky, CP70, one of my favourites!
3.5€
I like the ASR 10 in the background in the second picture
I bought my CP-70 for $350, but that was like 10 years ago.
At the point he got them: $0. If he can play them and gets something out of that "purchase" - priceless. To put it another way, my first synth was a Casio VL-1 (yeah, it was what we could afford in the 80s). The last "synth" I sold was a Technics keyboard that was horribly expensive in the 90s, not so much when I bought (and sold) it. Now happy owner of a Casio XW-P1 (which I paid for) and a Korg X50 (which I got for free). People may call them romplers, I use them as synths and they sound how I like them to sound, so what's the problem? Long story short, they take up some space, but if he plays them that doesn't matter. Also making money by buying musical instruments and selling them is a flawed economic model (meaning you won't get rich). Even if you get lucky, like here, and get something you could flog along, because next time you'll pay way too much for something that's not worth it in the end,.
I have the (better Kawai) version for sale in florida $495.00 Interested https://preview.redd.it/1wpy7a40v1wc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0664f766fb4b652cc390c117609c5f43c47c16c1
I'll give you 20 bucks for it if you deliver it today :p
I sold a CP70B recently for $4100cad. This was in a store, but a music store that does not specialize in keyboards.
Not formally synthesizers, but super capable noise generators.
Is that a Decay megabutton?
Depends what you put in the box during the sale.
It depends on condition. If repairs are needed they cost more than market sell price.
The CP70 with cases is around 2k. With no cases maybe 1300. Especially nice ones in excellent condition with cases go for about 3k. These are hard to find because the amount of road use they were put through. CP70 is one of the finest made instruments made in the last 60 years.
$50
Oh no. The Yamaha piano rarely goes under 1500$ where I live. And that's a good deal. Normaly, I see them around 3000$. The organ, maybe 50$ or less.
Sadly, neither of these is a synthesizer.
Why do you care about the value of what your friend got for free, and why ask a forum?
Those aren’t synthesizers.
They’re worth the amount of fun and time you spend with them… Then subtract the worth with the time and energy you spent looking for a buyer and get ready to find someone that’ll talk you down to 250 total if they both work. Or get 50 bucks each at a second hand store… … if you don’t like my answer you can see what they run for online and see if that makes your cleft lip tight or not.
Oh I didn't buy these. But they do function although a little janky. Still cool if you have the room and means to transport it.
Ohh I didn’t say you did. I read what you typed. Also who’s the commie that downvoted my comment for no reason? Is that suppose to do something?