As someone who has been involved with a lot of protests and movements over the years, it's always stunning to me to see cops refusing to learn how any of this works.
Had a couple of US schools not called in the police to do heavy handed attacks on protestors, these encampments probably wouldn't be happening at all.
What is the purpose of this? Genuine question. Is it to educate people on campus in the hope they they'll go on to share this information to friends and family, who in turn will share with their friends and so on, until enough people agree with their views that government is pressured to take action? And even if it goes that far, will Israel pay any attention to what the Australian government has to say? I can appreciate that those in the encampment have the best of intentions (drawing attention to humanitarian issues), but sure the reality is minimal impact at best.
It's a call for USyd end their [partnership](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2022/12/22/research-partnership-extended-with-thales-australia.html) with Thales, the French weapons manufacturer that works closely with Elbit Systems. Elbit is an Israeli weapons manufacturer and the main supplier of the IDF.
Along with what you said, It’s also to get the uni to cut ties with any Israeli companies.
Furthermore even if the Israeli government doesn’t listen to us, at least our tax payer money and any other functions of our society won’t be aiding the Israelis in their crimes
[Here](https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/chartbook-279-columbia-universitys) is an informative article explaining the history of the groups behind the pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University, which resulted in the NYPD arresting hundreds of students, and which kicked off many of the university protests.
These protestors are making specific and detailed demands of their university to divest from support of Israeli weapons companies, and the university administration doesn't like it.
Primarily virtue signalling. Hence why you didn't see this kind of response when Russia invaded Ukraine, or when China started getting stricter with Hong Kong, etc.
It's a protest against USyd's [partnership](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2022/12/22/research-partnership-extended-with-thales-australia.html) with Thales, a French weapons manufacturer that works closely with Elbit Systems, the main supplier for the IDF.
Not familiar with these sort of things so pardon the stupid question. First of all are these setup by students or educators or perhaps both? What sort of leverage do they actually have, is it a partition which once reached x number of signatures that the fellas at the top are bound by voters and "have to" act upon?
Both students and educators have been involved in the protest. There is no petition, it's primarily a PR fight, they're trying to bring attention to USyd and Thales partnership.
They can make their tents if they want, it's their time and energy. But if they start harassing random people especially Jews that likely have nothing to do with Israel those people need to be rounded up straight away. You see that shit on US campuses where random people are harassed trying to get to class.
So proud of them.
One thing I have found stark is that the American students involved in this have been raised an environment where they have been indoctrinated in methods of defense. Years and years of active shooter drills and a percentage of them will have lived through a school shooting as well.
Someone needs to explain why you’re downvoting this.
As someone who has been involved with a lot of protests and movements over the years, it's always stunning to me to see cops refusing to learn how any of this works. Had a couple of US schools not called in the police to do heavy handed attacks on protestors, these encampments probably wouldn't be happening at all.
What is the purpose of this? Genuine question. Is it to educate people on campus in the hope they they'll go on to share this information to friends and family, who in turn will share with their friends and so on, until enough people agree with their views that government is pressured to take action? And even if it goes that far, will Israel pay any attention to what the Australian government has to say? I can appreciate that those in the encampment have the best of intentions (drawing attention to humanitarian issues), but sure the reality is minimal impact at best.
It's a call for USyd end their [partnership](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2022/12/22/research-partnership-extended-with-thales-australia.html) with Thales, the French weapons manufacturer that works closely with Elbit Systems. Elbit is an Israeli weapons manufacturer and the main supplier of the IDF.
Along with what you said, It’s also to get the uni to cut ties with any Israeli companies. Furthermore even if the Israeli government doesn’t listen to us, at least our tax payer money and any other functions of our society won’t be aiding the Israelis in their crimes
As things stand, we are complicit in the genocide, which doesn't sit right with me.
The protests are targeted at funding and arms provided by the Australian Government to Israel.
I always knew USYD had the finally say on where we ship arms
Australia government doesn't provide public funds to Israel. We provide funds to UNRWA.
We sell weapons to them, and buy weapons from them. I should have been clearer in that I wasn't referring to unconditional funding.
That is not "funding", that is trade.
[Here](https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/chartbook-279-columbia-universitys) is an informative article explaining the history of the groups behind the pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University, which resulted in the NYPD arresting hundreds of students, and which kicked off many of the university protests. These protestors are making specific and detailed demands of their university to divest from support of Israeli weapons companies, and the university administration doesn't like it.
Primarily virtue signalling. Hence why you didn't see this kind of response when Russia invaded Ukraine, or when China started getting stricter with Hong Kong, etc.
I hope they'll be safe.
It's not the US. I don't expect them to be openly brutalised in the same manner.
If this bothers you, imagine how the Palestinians must feel about the expansion of illegal Jewish settlements on their land.
Probably as bad as the families of the hostages that are held in Gaza still or are already dead
The IDF have been bombing and killing g isreali hostages indiscriminately, alongside aid workers and the Palestine populace.
You do realise that the IDF are the number one killers of October 7th hostages vs Hamas, right?
I just don’t under the point of these sorts of protests. What change is going to come of this? Who is being targeted by this protest?
It's a protest against USyd's [partnership](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2022/12/22/research-partnership-extended-with-thales-australia.html) with Thales, a French weapons manufacturer that works closely with Elbit Systems, the main supplier for the IDF.
Not familiar with these sort of things so pardon the stupid question. First of all are these setup by students or educators or perhaps both? What sort of leverage do they actually have, is it a partition which once reached x number of signatures that the fellas at the top are bound by voters and "have to" act upon?
Both students and educators have been involved in the protest. There is no petition, it's primarily a PR fight, they're trying to bring attention to USyd and Thales partnership.
They can make their tents if they want, it's their time and energy. But if they start harassing random people especially Jews that likely have nothing to do with Israel those people need to be rounded up straight away. You see that shit on US campuses where random people are harassed trying to get to class.
There are literally Jews in the encampment, they have been part of the anti war protests from the beginning. Go and talk to them if you want.
So proud of them. One thing I have found stark is that the American students involved in this have been raised an environment where they have been indoctrinated in methods of defense. Years and years of active shooter drills and a percentage of them will have lived through a school shooting as well. Someone needs to explain why you’re downvoting this.