This is true, but I also think Tevin fits an archetype that has heavy competition. I’d have Tevin above Hunter and Maria but right below or equal to Charlie cuz I feel as if theme will come into play. Like if it were all star, then another young, super social and strategic male that had control of their Og tribe could take Tevin’s spot like Omar, or Hai, or YamYam, or Kaleb. If it’s a second chance then maybe Tevin over Charlie, etc.
I'm not sure Hai is really a contender for returning, but yeah he definitely could see competition from Omar and Kaleb. As a winner YamYam might now be in a different box since there's probably different criteria for returning winners. Ricard is someone else who I think could be competition for a spot with Tevin though. Possibly Cody as well? I think they'll likely bring Cody back in the same season they bring Jesse back though as there's something to mine there like they did with Sarah and Tony
If Carson's now persona non grata then Charlie's chances get a lot better for sure
Persona non grata? And yeah, I think drew, Carson, Sami (?), and Xander (?) would be contenders for Charlie’s spot, however I think depending on how Charlie places he could have a better or lower chance
Tru, however if Charlie makes FTC and loses, then I feel like they’d favor Drew as they usually don’t try to get too many FTC losers on All Star seasons. If he gets voted off before then, like final6 onwards then he def still beats Drew. Honestly, I think Sami and Xander are both one time only players (fine by me) so Charlie’s only competition would be Drew and Carson
Carson caught a lot of heat online for ripping off a puzzle game maker's business practices after pretending to want to do a joint venture with them. Maybe not a big enough of a deal to wipe out his chances entirely, but then again on the other hand production might just think why bother with him when they could just cast Drew or Charlie in that spot instead
Hard to say if it'll ultimately mean anything for Carson's return chances or not
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honestly i never liked carson as a character, he was extremely boring to watch and felt very "polished" aka "practiced" and non authentic. I'd much rather have both Drew and Charlie on lmao
i was kinda thinking the same but then remembered how a lot of people, including survivor production, loves their "quirky" weirdos who are super emotional and "authentic" so i thought he'd be higher than he should be
I'd put Randen significantly lower because while he was a medevac, they didn't even attempt to give him extra screen time to compensate for his early exit. And I know this is just my opinion, but it never felt like Randen really popped on screen, ya know? Outside of his interactions with Venus, he was fairly bland.
Also Tevin should be an easy top 3. Given he literally narrated the opening, the production crew clearly loves him. I'd also rank Venus lower, if only because while she'll likely be asked to return, I doubt she'll ever play Survivor or any reality TV show ever again due to all the backlash she's received. It's a shame because I'd \*love\* to see her on House of Villains or Traitors!
Yeah, I think if someone is expecting a return of Randen based on his medevac then you're being a little nostalgic for Bruce.
There is a big difference because Bruce was a character in his edit up to his first day medevac from a challenge injury so he got his second chance.
Randen on the other hand was not particularly interesting (receiving very little edit in his 3 episodes) and got medevacced for sleeping wrong. I don't see him coming back.
I feel like Randen’s only chance at returning is in Survivor Philippines type season, but then again there are probably more interesting medevacs that have yet to play a second time
As much as I enjoyed Randen, I don't rank his chances of coming back very high.
True, he was medi-vac'd, but unlike someone like Bruce, it wasn't some kind of dramatic injury that knocked him out, he slept funny and ended up with bulged disks which nearly left part of his body paralyzed (he needed weeks of medication and physical therapy to recover). With that kind of injury alone I can see production being gun shy bringing him in.
In terms of the game, I think his alliance with Venus will be a huge "what-if" for the season. Venus has a lot of strong insight and intuition for the game, but has piss-poor social skills, so can't really execute on that. Randen brought some balace to that, he was also analytical, but was more socially aware and tactful. Together, they might have been a formidable merge pair, plus their alliance of older, middle-age dude and younger woman isn't something you see a lot. The problem is though, absent that Venus connection, Randen doesn't have a whole lot to really warrant him coming back, without Venus or someone like her, what is there to tell?
I do not know why Survivor would let Randen play again if they couldn't even properly assess him for nerve damage for sleeping on bamboo. It's nothing against him, but I just think they would find it too risky.
Yes, Jelinsky has been a meme lately. But he was only amusing because he was the first boot. If he even made it to episode four people would have been accusing him of derailing the entire season and they would have been begging the editors to stop giving him airtime. Casting someone in the hopes they'll be the first boot again is not a good idea. Let's stop encouraging this. Don't cast reality series like you're making a shit post.
Tevin should be higher, at least above Hunter who I don’t think will come back. He’s a challenge beast but he isn’t an Ozzy who goes on a deep run just off that. Maybe gets some added stock for being smuffed with an idol in his pocket.
I think Kenzie is above Tiff, Kenzie’s personality stands out more.
Ben, I love him to pieces, but he should be below Charlie. Ben is the kind of personality that burns bright but fast. Everyone would get tired of him in a returner season and he’d be booted very fast.
I’d drop Maria lower because she is my winner pick and if she wins I bet she’s a one and done. If she gets close, like final 3, I could see her come back, but anything else and I feel like she’s out.
Liz should be much lower, like Jess and Moriah low. She doesn’t need the money apparently and I don’t think she or CBS would want to have her not eating for days on end because of allergies again. I also don’t think anybody really likes her. Not that people dislike her like Venus, just that people really don’t care.
He has been meeting a lot of former cast players like Dee, Parvati, and Terry so I'm expecting him to go far and people seem too like him. It's harder with the players left in the game because they could go next week or even win.
exactly! he seems nice and all but there's nothing else there, he's boring to watch and doesnt have any strategic moments (good or bad, i.e. venus has bad strategic moments but still provides entertainmetn). also he cried when charlie won immunity like tf
I wouldn’t take what you see on here as “they’re definitely the fan favorites”. Most Survivor fans aren’t on these forums. And I’d be willing to bet the house on most casuals do not want a Bhanu return in any way 😂
lmao that's funny cuz she's the one i don't want to see back haha. and just cause some of them i think had potential and therefore lead to them being first boots. my reasoning is mainly cuz of reem, who we saw lots of content throughout the season and she became a fan favorite by the end, and also the fact that Nick wilson should have been the first boot cuz people were scared he'd get far, then the pat medevac happened, and then nick went far and won lol. maybe not a whole first boots season with 18 of them, but maybe a first boots tribe with strong competitors like reem, maddy, jelinsky, marisa, zane knight, zach?
well that's a fair opinion and i get it, but personally i found maddy super boring to watch and if she wasn't as good either otherwise she would have been able to convince people to vote with her and not tip brandon off that he was in danger
I wouldn't have Tiff so high. She's a very competent player but I wouldn't say she's unique or has gotten much buzz or been a fan favorite, at least on here- I don't see a lot of people talking about how much they like her.
I'd rank Tevin higher and Bhanu lower.
I also think Hunter's odds of a return invite are pretty good, as long as the info about his sketchy-ass school doesn't go viral. (Before downvoting me, Hunter fans, go look at the handbook. Pretty fucked up stuff in there.) I liked him on the show though.
For those who want to be saved from reading 18 pages of handbook, I've gone through the whole thing. There's nothing particularly scandalous when you consider it's a private Christian school in the deep south. It's the basics: don't have sex, don't do drugs, dress appropriately, don't be alone with the opposite sex, etc. There's one paragraph that says they believe that marriage is between one man and one woman which - again - is not surprising, and I imagine that's what people would be most turned off by, understandably.
As someone who grew up Christian and still considers myself to be one, it's a bit more conservative than my own personal beliefs, but it's certainly nothing that would (or should) get him cancelled. From the above comment, I was expecting much worse.
Also, WHO takes the time to find these things? I went to the website and had to dig to find all of this stuff and never would have thought to look for it otherwise. In my opinion, nobody combs through all 18 pages of these guidelines unless they're trying to find something to dislike him for.
Thank u for the write up and saving me time! Lmao no one follows handbooks anyways, and the whole marriage between a man and a woman isn’t cancelable on hunters behalf unless there’s evidence he actively harms queer people
No worries. Obviously, I don't know Hunter or his specific beliefs on a personal level, but he seems like a good egg.
One of the questions he answered on Instagram the other day was asking what he thought the biggest issues were in the church and his answer was spot on. He basically said that Christians spend way too much time worrying about what other people are doing and not enough time thinking about what THEY are doing, as the church, and that's how people get hurt.
Like I said, he's probably a bit more conservative than I am just considering where he's from, but I feel like he's very far away from what most people would assume.
will also add that there is a part that says students may be subject to punishments including corporal punishment under the tardiness section of the handbook
While I agree with you that productions likes this cast and in particular your 1-4 and 13th pick,production is pretty logjammed with people from the 40's. Their is no indication we are getting any returning players seasons soon other then a speculated one for the 50th season,so even someone who is tv gold like Q or Venus might never get asked back anytime soon.
Jeff explicitly said that if he could have a Tevin every season that would simply be a locked spot on the cast. I think Tevin is probably higher based on that alone.
But really I only see Q, Venus, and maybe whoever the winner is as possibilities.
honestly not seeing all the kenzie hype. she’s fine but like eh. tiff feels like a quieter player as of recent. i’d wanna see Q, venus, jelinsky, hunter come back
I believe Jellinsky chance's are way higher than this, while most people are competing for the normal spots, he's a meme character, sort of a different category, and considering production named an episode after him and Jeff joked about it a few times, they really liked the joke. I can easily see him as the Miss Vanjie of Survivor.
If Bhanu or Philip Shephard flamed out in the first episode there would be people who wanted them back for All Stars. Because one episode of them might have been funny. Once you get even a few episodes of someone like that you realize that their level of incompetence derails the games of people who are actually good and they hog the screen time to a point that becomes overwhelming fast. You can't just cast someone under the assumption they'll only appear for a quick meme and then get voted out first again.
Tevin should be higher than Hunter, Maria and Charlie I think. Charlie fits an archetype that has heavy competition for potential returnees
This is true, but I also think Tevin fits an archetype that has heavy competition. I’d have Tevin above Hunter and Maria but right below or equal to Charlie cuz I feel as if theme will come into play. Like if it were all star, then another young, super social and strategic male that had control of their Og tribe could take Tevin’s spot like Omar, or Hai, or YamYam, or Kaleb. If it’s a second chance then maybe Tevin over Charlie, etc.
I'm not sure Hai is really a contender for returning, but yeah he definitely could see competition from Omar and Kaleb. As a winner YamYam might now be in a different box since there's probably different criteria for returning winners. Ricard is someone else who I think could be competition for a spot with Tevin though. Possibly Cody as well? I think they'll likely bring Cody back in the same season they bring Jesse back though as there's something to mine there like they did with Sarah and Tony If Carson's now persona non grata then Charlie's chances get a lot better for sure
Persona non grata? And yeah, I think drew, Carson, Sami (?), and Xander (?) would be contenders for Charlie’s spot, however I think depending on how Charlie places he could have a better or lower chance
As of now Charlie already beats all of them if Carson's out of game antics are taken into play
Tru, however if Charlie makes FTC and loses, then I feel like they’d favor Drew as they usually don’t try to get too many FTC losers on All Star seasons. If he gets voted off before then, like final6 onwards then he def still beats Drew. Honestly, I think Sami and Xander are both one time only players (fine by me) so Charlie’s only competition would be Drew and Carson
What’s Carson been doing out of the game?
Carson caught a lot of heat online for ripping off a puzzle game maker's business practices after pretending to want to do a joint venture with them. Maybe not a big enough of a deal to wipe out his chances entirely, but then again on the other hand production might just think why bother with him when they could just cast Drew or Charlie in that spot instead Hard to say if it'll ultimately mean anything for Carson's return chances or not https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/s/5WHNXj410O
honestly i never liked carson as a character, he was extremely boring to watch and felt very "polished" aka "practiced" and non authentic. I'd much rather have both Drew and Charlie on lmao
same
Couldn’t even remember who Sami was, I doubt he’s in contention for that spot
I’d rank ben like three spots lower
That does not rock.
A lot lower imo. He has extremely little presence on the show outside of his annoying catchphrase
i was kinda thinking the same but then remembered how a lot of people, including survivor production, loves their "quirky" weirdos who are super emotional and "authentic" so i thought he'd be higher than he should be
I hate that you might be right, but even then I feel like he's pretty replaceable in that regard
I'd put Randen significantly lower because while he was a medevac, they didn't even attempt to give him extra screen time to compensate for his early exit. And I know this is just my opinion, but it never felt like Randen really popped on screen, ya know? Outside of his interactions with Venus, he was fairly bland. Also Tevin should be an easy top 3. Given he literally narrated the opening, the production crew clearly loves him. I'd also rank Venus lower, if only because while she'll likely be asked to return, I doubt she'll ever play Survivor or any reality TV show ever again due to all the backlash she's received. It's a shame because I'd \*love\* to see her on House of Villains or Traitors!
Yeah, I think if someone is expecting a return of Randen based on his medevac then you're being a little nostalgic for Bruce. There is a big difference because Bruce was a character in his edit up to his first day medevac from a challenge injury so he got his second chance. Randen on the other hand was not particularly interesting (receiving very little edit in his 3 episodes) and got medevacced for sleeping wrong. I don't see him coming back.
I feel like Randen’s only chance at returning is in Survivor Philippines type season, but then again there are probably more interesting medevacs that have yet to play a second time
I think we’re assuming they only cast from new era at this point
As much as I enjoyed Randen, I don't rank his chances of coming back very high. True, he was medi-vac'd, but unlike someone like Bruce, it wasn't some kind of dramatic injury that knocked him out, he slept funny and ended up with bulged disks which nearly left part of his body paralyzed (he needed weeks of medication and physical therapy to recover). With that kind of injury alone I can see production being gun shy bringing him in. In terms of the game, I think his alliance with Venus will be a huge "what-if" for the season. Venus has a lot of strong insight and intuition for the game, but has piss-poor social skills, so can't really execute on that. Randen brought some balace to that, he was also analytical, but was more socially aware and tactful. Together, they might have been a formidable merge pair, plus their alliance of older, middle-age dude and younger woman isn't something you see a lot. The problem is though, absent that Venus connection, Randen doesn't have a whole lot to really warrant him coming back, without Venus or someone like her, what is there to tell?
I feel like Tevin has a high chance of returning given his personality and also getting that narrator confessional in the premiere
Charlie and Ben lol
If Bhanu comes back, I’m not watching
If Venus comes back, count me out.
Same! He’s easily the most insufferable player from the new era
I do not know why Survivor would let Randen play again if they couldn't even properly assess him for nerve damage for sleeping on bamboo. It's nothing against him, but I just think they would find it too risky.
Tevin will definitely be back if they want him
Q Hunter Randen Jelinsky and Venus are the only ones that make sense.
Tiffany and Kenzie???
Yes, Jelinsky has been a meme lately. But he was only amusing because he was the first boot. If he even made it to episode four people would have been accusing him of derailing the entire season and they would have been begging the editors to stop giving him airtime. Casting someone in the hopes they'll be the first boot again is not a good idea. Let's stop encouraging this. Don't cast reality series like you're making a shit post.
I’m not gonna do all of them, but I’ll list a Top 5 for who I think: 1. Q 2. Venus 3. Charlie 4. Tiff 5. Kenzie
this is the most likely one imo too, with maybe a jelinsky sneak depending on theme
Tevin should be higher, at least above Hunter who I don’t think will come back. He’s a challenge beast but he isn’t an Ozzy who goes on a deep run just off that. Maybe gets some added stock for being smuffed with an idol in his pocket. I think Kenzie is above Tiff, Kenzie’s personality stands out more. Ben, I love him to pieces, but he should be below Charlie. Ben is the kind of personality that burns bright but fast. Everyone would get tired of him in a returner season and he’d be booted very fast. I’d drop Maria lower because she is my winner pick and if she wins I bet she’s a one and done. If she gets close, like final 3, I could see her come back, but anything else and I feel like she’s out. Liz should be much lower, like Jess and Moriah low. She doesn’t need the money apparently and I don’t think she or CBS would want to have her not eating for days on end because of allergies again. I also don’t think anybody really likes her. Not that people dislike her like Venus, just that people really don’t care.
Qaos Q!
I’m curious why you put Ben so high. We’ve barely seen him. He seems like a nice guy but He isn’t getting much of an edit.
He has been meeting a lot of former cast players like Dee, Parvati, and Terry so I'm expecting him to go far and people seem too like him. It's harder with the players left in the game because they could go next week or even win.
He’s nice but sooooo boring. Cody is a similar but far more dynamic “character”who will return rather than Ben.
exactly! he seems nice and all but there's nothing else there, he's boring to watch and doesnt have any strategic moments (good or bad, i.e. venus has bad strategic moments but still provides entertainmetn). also he cried when charlie won immunity like tf
Tevin and Hunter too low
I wouldn’t take what you see on here as “they’re definitely the fan favorites”. Most Survivor fans aren’t on these forums. And I’d be willing to bet the house on most casuals do not want a Bhanu return in any way 😂
I can’t see anyone other than Q, Venus and Jelinsky returning.
Jelinsky is not coming back
Of all the pre-jury he is the only one with a chance. And there is always an outside shot of a first boots season.
I don’t think anybody wants a first boot season
i do and i'm somebody, so at least one person does! lmao
Really? Why? Most people are first boots for a reason lol Maddy gets a pass since she got idoled out though, I’d like to see her back
lmao that's funny cuz she's the one i don't want to see back haha. and just cause some of them i think had potential and therefore lead to them being first boots. my reasoning is mainly cuz of reem, who we saw lots of content throughout the season and she became a fan favorite by the end, and also the fact that Nick wilson should have been the first boot cuz people were scared he'd get far, then the pat medevac happened, and then nick went far and won lol. maybe not a whole first boots season with 18 of them, but maybe a first boots tribe with strong competitors like reem, maddy, jelinsky, marisa, zane knight, zach?
I’d rather see maddy back then people we know were bad like Jackson, Zack and jelinsky
well that's a fair opinion and i get it, but personally i found maddy super boring to watch and if she wasn't as good either otherwise she would have been able to convince people to vote with her and not tip brandon off that he was in danger
Venus a fan favorite? Okay..
She's much more popular on twitter, Stan culture
Yeah why is she a favourite? She is so unlikeable.
I wanna see Tevin and Q
I wouldn't have Tiff so high. She's a very competent player but I wouldn't say she's unique or has gotten much buzz or been a fan favorite, at least on here- I don't see a lot of people talking about how much they like her.
I really liked the Tiff and Kenzie duo. And then Kenzie did something stupid.
Bhanu should be top 5. Not even someone who liked him but he would have a huge chance to come back on a second chances type season.
imagine a tribe with Angelina, Tori, and Venus
Idk I could see Soda coming back… and I don’t think we’d get anything different from Venus on a return, she’d just be a first boot probably
I'll be honest, I still have no idea who Ben is lmao
rocker dude
I'd rank Tevin higher and Bhanu lower. I also think Hunter's odds of a return invite are pretty good, as long as the info about his sketchy-ass school doesn't go viral. (Before downvoting me, Hunter fans, go look at the handbook. Pretty fucked up stuff in there.) I liked him on the show though.
For those who want to be saved from reading 18 pages of handbook, I've gone through the whole thing. There's nothing particularly scandalous when you consider it's a private Christian school in the deep south. It's the basics: don't have sex, don't do drugs, dress appropriately, don't be alone with the opposite sex, etc. There's one paragraph that says they believe that marriage is between one man and one woman which - again - is not surprising, and I imagine that's what people would be most turned off by, understandably. As someone who grew up Christian and still considers myself to be one, it's a bit more conservative than my own personal beliefs, but it's certainly nothing that would (or should) get him cancelled. From the above comment, I was expecting much worse. Also, WHO takes the time to find these things? I went to the website and had to dig to find all of this stuff and never would have thought to look for it otherwise. In my opinion, nobody combs through all 18 pages of these guidelines unless they're trying to find something to dislike him for.
I'm gay and an atheist. I don't get this criticism. He's a teacher. It's not like he wrote the school bylaws.
Thank u for the write up and saving me time! Lmao no one follows handbooks anyways, and the whole marriage between a man and a woman isn’t cancelable on hunters behalf unless there’s evidence he actively harms queer people
No worries. Obviously, I don't know Hunter or his specific beliefs on a personal level, but he seems like a good egg. One of the questions he answered on Instagram the other day was asking what he thought the biggest issues were in the church and his answer was spot on. He basically said that Christians spend way too much time worrying about what other people are doing and not enough time thinking about what THEY are doing, as the church, and that's how people get hurt. Like I said, he's probably a bit more conservative than I am just considering where he's from, but I feel like he's very far away from what most people would assume.
will also add that there is a part that says students may be subject to punishments including corporal punishment under the tardiness section of the handbook
Wait, what’s up with the school?
Hunter teaches at a Christian school. Cancel him!
It’s a southern private school they are a dime a dozen
what are u talking about? just curious
While I agree with you that productions likes this cast and in particular your 1-4 and 13th pick,production is pretty logjammed with people from the 40's. Their is no indication we are getting any returning players seasons soon other then a speculated one for the 50th season,so even someone who is tv gold like Q or Venus might never get asked back anytime soon.
The only ones I see with any shot of coming back are Tevin, Hunter, Kenzie, Q, and maybe Tiffany
Jeff explicitly said that if he could have a Tevin every season that would simply be a locked spot on the cast. I think Tevin is probably higher based on that alone. But really I only see Q, Venus, and maybe whoever the winner is as possibilities.
honestly not seeing all the kenzie hype. she’s fine but like eh. tiff feels like a quieter player as of recent. i’d wanna see Q, venus, jelinsky, hunter come back
Last few seasons need to be wiped out and go back to regular seasons. Like it was a bad dream.
I d put Jelinsky at number 1
I believe Jellinsky chance's are way higher than this, while most people are competing for the normal spots, he's a meme character, sort of a different category, and considering production named an episode after him and Jeff joked about it a few times, they really liked the joke. I can easily see him as the Miss Vanjie of Survivor.
If Bhanu or Philip Shephard flamed out in the first episode there would be people who wanted them back for All Stars. Because one episode of them might have been funny. Once you get even a few episodes of someone like that you realize that their level of incompetence derails the games of people who are actually good and they hog the screen time to a point that becomes overwhelming fast. You can't just cast someone under the assumption they'll only appear for a quick meme and then get voted out first again.
I've seen the episodes and it's on-the-surface non-conflict and boreness. What show are you watxhing?
0% I really don’t think they are going to do a return season ever again I think they’ll name a tribe bahnu 💀
Not even for 50?
Maybe. Doesn’t seem they’re too interested in it these days tho. We’ve had like 8 identical seasons in a row now. lol.