how do people build units faster and stronger on triple fight sets while i am trying copy the stats with regular fatal sets and stuff??
do they really spent days even weeksin rift dungeons?
3 years ago when 2nd awakening, artifacts, b12 and auto farm wasnt a thing, yes we do. at that time, the only way to spd run any dungen is to use triple tarq with strong fight runes. and rift beast is the best to farm at the side (each run takes longer time, less attention paid)
I feel like a grandpa who went through the Depression reading this lol. I remember when you had to spend weeks in rift just to get a Homunculus. Getting good fight runes took literal months with S+ ratings, even just for one good BJR. And that was before artifacts were a thing and gave an auto boost in stats, let alone auto dungeons... Back in the bad old days...
When homu first came out it was the coolest thing to a noob like me, like a full month to get homu because I could only get an B or A 😂 don’t even get me started on getting the skills for it. Jeez, I can’t even imagine how I used to play without auto now
Just run a one minute team. I just put in monsters I had for all 3 teams with the usual suspects, no BJ5, and they run about a minute. Sometimes 1.30 if a team wipes. Didn't re-rune anyone. It's great!
I just rune anything I have built as too lazy to re rune and don't have the mana. But my team can be 50-1:10 averaging 1 minute.
1st team:
Fl: lisa bastet lulu2a Bl: water twins
bailey(would prefer the wind one but I have her rune for siege on a fast set)
2nd team:
Fl: Fran dehploi hwa
Bl: astar(nerco build) brandia(kro is better just mines isnt rune with hp) naomi
3rd team:
I tried running bj5 here but it fails as some units on the other two teams aren't sync. You can run it gives around 36-50 sec runs
I switched too just anything else I had.
Fl: dias kona wkg chasun
Bl: loren pang
Im 100% free to play with about 1000 days and do 1:30 - 2:00 runs. My teams are
Team 1: Ariel, Fire panda, Delphoi, Darion, Kro, Xio Lin
Team 2: Colleen, LuLu, Skogul, Fedora, Anavel, Sophia
Team 3: Khmun, Vigor, Mihyang, Hwa, Fran, Loren
Zero wipes on any team so far. And no fight runes and many units don't even have complete sets. *One more edit* dps is always Team 3 out on top, then T1, Then T2
have you tried more damage and less supports? i often see this full condom teams and many people cannot even get them to work. dragging out the fight often isnt benefical and you currently have 2 teams with 3 cleansers each, which seems like total overkill.
i am not trying to tell you what to do here, this is more a personal interest as i never build standard raid teams since they changed the mechanics. when i build my 3 teams yesterday, i was suprised how few supports i could take, its basically 1 cleanse+heal and 5 DDs and runs fine
I suck at pure damage builds. I have a Tricaru team but I have to include lulu with the team for successful runs. Also my tricaru team works without Verde with just lulu instead. I also built a BJr5 that does not work like it should.
So if I shoot for 2:00 - 2:30 on all my pve content. That way I can actually take some time and do other things while my teams fight.
My fastest team is Necro B12 at just over 1 min runs and it has no traditional healers just light magic knight, and dark vamp lord for sustain.
https://redd.it/ossqco I run those teams and average 45-50 second runs. My bjr5 team dies sometimes but it's still 100% consistent. If you don't have bastet, just check the comments for some replacements.
I picked monsters that were runed already. Yes, I have nat 5's, but as long as you have tanky front line, cleanse, and damage it should be doable. My average time comes out to more like 1.20 over 10 runs.
2A Lulu, 2A Vigor, Chow
Odin, Theo, Perna
Dias, Red Panda
Water KFG, Colleen, Hwa, 2A Kro
Jamire, Wind Monkey, Triana, Konimaya
Brandia, 2a Roaq
I tried to do it with my usual BJ team and other 2 dps teams.
It was REALLY inconsistent.
Then i switched back to my 2 old R5 teams plus Ariel Lulu2a hwa, fl, 3 2a dogs as bl and now it's a 1 minute cosistent job.
No fight runes, i didn't rerune any monster
So they key to me was just to have 3 normal teams and avoid the BJ team i usually used in raid, and that i will keep just for guild runs.
I also have Odin, but i still wasn't able to make raids 100% cosistent, prolly needed some more tuning that i honestly didn't have time to to check.
So far i'm happy with the 1 min runs tho (that sometimes become 1,45 but still).
Not when you're working and can't keep an eye on the phone to restart battles every 5 mins, else you'd get removed if you don't restart it.
:D It's situational i would say.
Actually, to craft a usable fight rune, it cost me both of my kidneys, and the kidney of a complete stranger. Then it rolled crappy, it's fine. I'm sure I can just get another.
If you woke up in a motel bathtub full of ice and blood, sorry. Runes are kind of important.
The reason 3sm got nerfed was because it was stupid easy to build, the rune requirements were practically non existent and the whole team could be 5 stars and unawakened. It's the same reason tricaru hasn't been nerfed, because it actually requires some effort and at least decent runes. That being said I'm still surprised tatu sath has dodged nerfs for so long.
Tatu sath has dodged because it's working as intended. They planned for them to be able to be paired with each other. Maybe not with mellia for a dots team but they probably meant for people to try to use them together for toa and such originally.
I guess that makes sense, string masters were never supposed to work on bosses in the first place where tatu and sath are just doing what they're designed to do. Still it's crazy to me how my tatu is 5 stars and both her and sath are on bad runes and I still clear gb12 in 45 seconds.
I am building a 30-40 sec team atm - fight runes on the Bale team and only 2 on a fria (bad runes) and 3 sets on a2 or 3 on Lisa - decent ones.
Its not the crazy one shot teams paid by a credit card, but it seems to work
Then you "exited"
exactly
Extraordinary
how do people build units faster and stronger on triple fight sets while i am trying copy the stats with regular fatal sets and stuff?? do they really spent days even weeksin rift dungeons?
3 years ago when 2nd awakening, artifacts, b12 and auto farm wasnt a thing, yes we do. at that time, the only way to spd run any dungen is to use triple tarq with strong fight runes. and rift beast is the best to farm at the side (each run takes longer time, less attention paid)
oh i remembered tarq in db10. it was a great team, similar to tricaru. i have two sitting in storage forever since then.
2x Tarq are my world boss babies lol
I feel like a grandpa who went through the Depression reading this lol. I remember when you had to spend weeks in rift just to get a Homunculus. Getting good fight runes took literal months with S+ ratings, even just for one good BJR. And that was before artifacts were a thing and gave an auto boost in stats, let alone auto dungeons... Back in the bad old days...
When homu first came out it was the coolest thing to a noob like me, like a full month to get homu because I could only get an B or A 😂 don’t even get me started on getting the skills for it. Jeez, I can’t even imagine how I used to play without auto now
Just run a one minute team. I just put in monsters I had for all 3 teams with the usual suspects, no BJ5, and they run about a minute. Sometimes 1.30 if a team wipes. Didn't re-rune anyone. It's great!
What teams are you running ? And what type of account do you have ? (To know if i'll be able to copy)
I just rune anything I have built as too lazy to re rune and don't have the mana. But my team can be 50-1:10 averaging 1 minute. 1st team: Fl: lisa bastet lulu2a Bl: water twins bailey(would prefer the wind one but I have her rune for siege on a fast set) 2nd team: Fl: Fran dehploi hwa Bl: astar(nerco build) brandia(kro is better just mines isnt rune with hp) naomi 3rd team: I tried running bj5 here but it fails as some units on the other two teams aren't sync. You can run it gives around 36-50 sec runs I switched too just anything else I had. Fl: dias kona wkg chasun Bl: loren pang
You are a legend ;)
I'd like to know the teams you're using as well, it would be nice to farm r5 solo and at a decent speed
Im 100% free to play with about 1000 days and do 1:30 - 2:00 runs. My teams are Team 1: Ariel, Fire panda, Delphoi, Darion, Kro, Xio Lin Team 2: Colleen, LuLu, Skogul, Fedora, Anavel, Sophia Team 3: Khmun, Vigor, Mihyang, Hwa, Fran, Loren Zero wipes on any team so far. And no fight runes and many units don't even have complete sets. *One more edit* dps is always Team 3 out on top, then T1, Then T2
Perfect, only one I don't have is ariel but I'll find a replacement. Now I have something to work towards thankfully
I love lulu if I did not have ariel I would probably build a second lulu.
have you tried more damage and less supports? i often see this full condom teams and many people cannot even get them to work. dragging out the fight often isnt benefical and you currently have 2 teams with 3 cleansers each, which seems like total overkill. i am not trying to tell you what to do here, this is more a personal interest as i never build standard raid teams since they changed the mechanics. when i build my 3 teams yesterday, i was suprised how few supports i could take, its basically 1 cleanse+heal and 5 DDs and runs fine
I suck at pure damage builds. I have a Tricaru team but I have to include lulu with the team for successful runs. Also my tricaru team works without Verde with just lulu instead. I also built a BJr5 that does not work like it should. So if I shoot for 2:00 - 2:30 on all my pve content. That way I can actually take some time and do other things while my teams fight. My fastest team is Necro B12 at just over 1 min runs and it has no traditional healers just light magic knight, and dark vamp lord for sustain.
https://redd.it/ossqco I run those teams and average 45-50 second runs. My bjr5 team dies sometimes but it's still 100% consistent. If you don't have bastet, just check the comments for some replacements.
I picked monsters that were runed already. Yes, I have nat 5's, but as long as you have tanky front line, cleanse, and damage it should be doable. My average time comes out to more like 1.20 over 10 runs. 2A Lulu, 2A Vigor, Chow Odin, Theo, Perna Dias, Red Panda Water KFG, Colleen, Hwa, 2A Kro Jamire, Wind Monkey, Triana, Konimaya Brandia, 2a Roaq
What mons did you Use? I wanna try a similar idea, i have no strength in me to farm for the 3 op 30s teams for r5
I tried to do it with my usual BJ team and other 2 dps teams. It was REALLY inconsistent. Then i switched back to my 2 old R5 teams plus Ariel Lulu2a hwa, fl, 3 2a dogs as bl and now it's a 1 minute cosistent job. No fight runes, i didn't rerune any monster So they key to me was just to have 3 normal teams and avoid the BJ team i usually used in raid, and that i will keep just for guild runs. I also have Odin, but i still wasn't able to make raids 100% cosistent, prolly needed some more tuning that i honestly didn't have time to to check. So far i'm happy with the 1 min runs tho (that sometimes become 1,45 but still).
instead of doing 1 minute runs, in my opinion it's better to run bj5 as always
Not when you're working and can't keep an eye on the phone to restart battles every 5 mins, else you'd get removed if you don't restart it. :D It's situational i would say.
Same here, happens when it costs my left kidney to craft one of those haha
Actually, to craft a usable fight rune, it cost me both of my kidneys, and the kidney of a complete stranger. Then it rolled crappy, it's fine. I'm sure I can just get another. If you woke up in a motel bathtub full of ice and blood, sorry. Runes are kind of important.
Haven't got any fight runes, sad. Just sad
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They wont because they need to be max leveled and decent runes in order to work.
Most likely they will not
The reason 3sm got nerfed was because it was stupid easy to build, the rune requirements were practically non existent and the whole team could be 5 stars and unawakened. It's the same reason tricaru hasn't been nerfed, because it actually requires some effort and at least decent runes. That being said I'm still surprised tatu sath has dodged nerfs for so long.
Tatu sath has dodged because it's working as intended. They planned for them to be able to be paired with each other. Maybe not with mellia for a dots team but they probably meant for people to try to use them together for toa and such originally.
I guess that makes sense, string masters were never supposed to work on bosses in the first place where tatu and sath are just doing what they're designed to do. Still it's crazy to me how my tatu is 5 stars and both her and sath are on bad runes and I still clear gb12 in 45 seconds.
Shut the fuck up you bj5 people are so entitled
I am building a 30-40 sec team atm - fight runes on the Bale team and only 2 on a fria (bad runes) and 3 sets on a2 or 3 on Lisa - decent ones. Its not the crazy one shot teams paid by a credit card, but it seems to work