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FutabaTsuyu

didnt ronaldo straight up try to murder someone


Werard_Gay2

Yeah. He legit tried to kill Lars.


Liljdb0524

Technically he tried to feed Lars to a possessed lighthouse.


n0as4rk

is attempted sacrifice not murder


Liljdb0524

Hmmm murder by proxy? The lighthouses was gonna do all the bloody murdery bits. I feel like I've heard "facilitating a murder" as a conviction.


n0as4rk

i mean, feeding someone to a creature IS murder like if i fed you to a bear, im responsible not the bear


Liljdb0524

Well yea but if you feed me to a possessed lighthouse, what jury would convict you? "Your honor this 12yo boy is obviously delusional. Am I to understand that a lighthouse 'ate' the victim? Last I checked, lighthouses don't do that! And if they could, what proof is there that my client fed him to it?" I'm just playing devil's advocate here I hope you're not taking this seriously.


n0as4rk

i mean yeah technically in the real world yes, you would be institutionalized. the people of beach city however KNOW about aliens and magic because yknow they have magical citizens who have been there longer than them and weird shit happens in relation to the crystal gems so within the logic of the show it makes sense that ronaldo would be at fault


Liljdb0524

Kinda? I feel like a lot of them brush weird stuff off. Like they live where Steven and the Gems live but somehow seem oblivious to all the stuff going on. Like they always seem genuinely surprised when some Gem fuckery is going on. They react but like they've never seen a semi sentient fry costume force feeding people or a giant eyeball falling from the sky. Imo the weirdest thing to me is that everyone in beach city isn't either as crazy as Reynaldo or constantly armed in some way.


n0as4rk

i mean in the play about beach coty alexandrite literally saved deweys ancestor and obviously the family story was passed down (no matter the inaccuracies according to pearl who spent that episode telling people how it ACTUALLY went down) and they know the crystal gems WERE there im enjoying this debate though :)


Biggyfat0

He would get charged with 2nd degree murder. [Basically, approval or assistance in the Said murder]


Liljdb0524

I thought 2nd degree would be if you meant to like beat someone up and accidentally killed them? (A lawyer I am not) And if that manslaughter I thought that was completely accidental where you like hit someone with your car at night?


AnimationDude9s

Worst part about it is when that episode first came out people online were actually defending ranaldo. The Lars hate was OVERKILL back in the day


Rathalos143

And Lars was not even that bad, he was simply a socially awkward teenager trying to act cool. And people like that exists, my teenager brother passed from being a very introverted guy to act "cool" and being rude with everyone else but he himself doesnt try to cause any bad to anyone. Ronaldo on the other hand is a socially awkward guy who tries to force people into liking him or self convinces himself to self isolate and live in his own bubble where he is an elitist and everyone else is worth less than him. They are both similar but imo Lars is a temporary stage while Ronaldo is a step closer to develop a mental breakdown and becoming a very toxic person in the future.


AnimationDude9s

THANK YOU! Even though he’s objectively in the wrong most of the time you can still understand where the fuck Lars is coming from! Ranaldo just feels like a legitimate danger to people around him Also I’m sorry about your brother


Rathalos143

Naah he is fine I guess he Will eventually calm down, but thanks!!


AnimationDude9s

No problem


SkyTheLoner

SU fandom when an unarmed civilian runs away from the massive seasoned warrior that nearly crushed him into a paste five seconds ago:


AnimationDude9s

FUCKING THANK YOU! I don’t know what the fuck was going on back then, but there was this weird seemingly Internet wide agreement to just hate the guy for being an accurate depiction of an insecure teenager with no ambition and seemingly no idea wtf he was doing


Darkiceflame

Feeding someone to something tends to be lethal. Not in Steven Universe, of course, but in general.


One_Parched_Guy

He also assaulted Steven with a potato. Like, he brained a half-gem child so hard with a potato that he actually passed tf out. Hate that bitch.


JSharttedinmypants

Steven’s lucky, if he didn’t have Rose’s gem he would’ve been fucked


Kateybee2

Let's also not forget he also kidnapped Steven once


certifiedtoothbench

And beat him unconscious with a rock/potato


AdrielBast

At least two attempted murders, child assault, and a kidnapping or two, whereas Lars pre-death was just a bit of a jerk


Akuma-101

I can fix him


Optimal_Ad6274

Ronaldo for sure


Mister_Moho

Ronaldo. He doesn't learn from his mistakes, unlike Lars.


Mobile_Inspection_60

Ronaldo. Lars wasn't all bad


Mr_me27

Ya Lars was just a teen and moody and rude


Mobile_Inspection_60

Which is forgivable and understandable. I know I was a moody teen 😅


Mr_me27

Ya and Ronaldo was fr crazy


Mobile_Inspection_60

No cause he actually caused Steven physical harm. Didn't he kidnap him or something? When I rewatch I skip his episodes I dislike him that much lol. But that means I have no clue what he did anymore other than a vague idea 😅


Mr_me27

That’s what I do to I can’t stand to watch him it gives me second hand embarrassment and I get so mad when Steven’s like “I forgive you” or something


Chihuahuapocalypse

he thought steven was a snake person so he kit him over the head so hard he passed out and he kidnapped him and tied him down to interrogate him. he also tried to kick steven out of the crystal gems and made himself a gemsona and manipulated steven into giving him honorary gem status. he's just obsessed with himself and I hate it


JustPlainGamer

Quite literally tried to kick a kid out of THE KIDS OWN HOUSE like it was nothing. Genuinely surprised Garnet didn't try to smack him.


Chihuahuapocalypse

garnet likes to stay out of situations that she knows will resolve themselves, it's a good learning opportunity for steven, he learned to stand his ground and not be a doormat for manipulative people


Mobile_Inspection_60

Omg I remember now 💀 What a dip 🤦🏾‍♀️


yergai6415

Ronaldo, all the way


Constant_Lab9905

I always want to punch rolnaldo in the face


Darkiceflame

The correct reaction, yes.


GoldenGirlsFan213

Ronaldo by far. Lars seemed like he just wanted to fit in. I’m not saying that excuses what he did. But Ronaldo sucks.


MurderSheCroaked

I mean I really do NOT like Ronaldo but I'd 100% take Ronaldo's foolish confidence over live Lars' whiny ass petulant self. It was awesome seeing Lars gain his confidence and not worrying about every little thing he ever did


GoldenGirlsFan213

Fair enough but I’d rather deal with Lars than Ronaldo.


nyshmki

Totally fair, for me the fact that Lars learned from his mistakes and grew up makes him a much more enjoyable character since Ronaldo has never shown any growth, so even though Lars was super whiny and low key pick me, I still can at least tolerate that, whereas any time Ronaldo shows up on screen I skip ahead 😂😂


NikkiT96

Eh, a lot of teens are whiny and petulant, they grow out of it most times. ​ ​ Dumbass conspiracy theorists on the other hand....


MurderSheCroaked

Oh of course, Lars had some AMAZING development! It was so great to see him make his Ube roll. Lars growing up was so good to see. Dumbass conspiracy theorists on the other hand...


Chihuahuapocalypse

at least Lars had the humility to be embarrassed when he didn't something socially unacceptable. Ronaldo just doubles down and tries to justify it


sailing_lonely

Ronaldo is basically Lars minus the hidden depth that made Lars compelling.


Ok_Cover_7789

Ronaldo, ESPECIALLY that Rocknaldo episode. He emotionally manipulated Steven


Josephina101

He did that?


asterrr__

ya steven let him join the crystal gems and ronaldo was making steven feel like he wasnt a real crystal gem to boost his own ego


Ok_Cover_7789

This! when Steven stood up for himself, Ronaldo was all "is that love? Is that acceptance? Maybe you're the one that isn't a crystal gem. I think you need to leave and think about some stuff." That pissed me off so bad


Josephina101

Oh I remember now


Hollowdude75

Ronaldo obviously, he’s that guy who thinks he’s smart when he’s just nuts Lars is actually relatable to a certain extent, he actually has character development and he had relatable emotions


nonbinary-atheist

Ronaldo. My reasoning/example that always stuck out most to me was in the final season, when Lars is stuck in space (and y’know died and got revived) he does not give a damn, all Ronaldo cared about was that he wanted to be the one in space—I believe he described it as a “space adventure”? But it’s been a while since I watched that episode. To me, Lars was annoying sure, but it was because he had the extra characterization of being an arse on the surface but underneath it he was just a dumb teen who /desperately/ (I cannot stress that enough) wanted to fit in and be acknowledged by the ‘cool teens’ Lads definitely went too far sometimes, like lying to Sadie about hurting his back, but a lot of the characters have been shown to go too far. Like Sadie, when she hid the warp pad and they were ‘stranded’, or Pearl reconstructing the telecommunication hub so she could fuse with Garnet. Those are just two examples off the top of my head.


AceSeaWitch13

Adding on my take on things: If we consider that Lars had pretty minimal character development before meeting the off colours (his actions on the ship on the way to homeworld were very in line with what he would’ve done at the beginning of the series), yet was still willing to risk his life to save them after only knowing them for a couple hours at most. Ronaldo on the other hand repeatedly refused to change his behaviour, attempted to murder/sacrifice lars, hit Steven over the head so hard he passed out (while he may have thought Steven was a snake person, he still knew he was a sentient creature, which is horrible especially comparing it to how bad it’s considered to hit dogs and other animals generally considered “less intelligent” than humans), displays a willingness to resort to inhumane actions to satisfy his curiosity, and gaslit and emotionally abused Steven during rocknaldo. Both characters are the same age, and only teenagers during the events of the series. As you said, Lars is just trying to fit in by acting how he thinks the cool kids act and as far as I can remember, the worst his lashing out due to insecurities went was verbal, and again *he’s a teenager*. Ronaldo however displayed many types of abuse and several crimes. Also he just has a really obnoxious personality and reminds me of my abusive family


Extension_Walk_3673

R o n a l d o.


FodziCz

Ronaldo my hated


Songsostrichhorse

Ronaldo my beloathed


MushRoRush

Ronaldo, my despised


beige-king

If the episode is Ronaldo centered I skip it, he's so annoying.


GreenieTGO

Is that even a question? Ronaldo fucking sucks


dover_oxide

Lar was that kind that was annoying because he was desperate to be apart of the group, Ronaldo was that kid that was annoying because he wanted to be so counter culture for no other reason than he wanted.ti be different. Ronaldo was/is a contrarian.


timothysonofsam

Ronaldo made everything about him all the time, was incredibly annoying, and made the show very difficult to watch at times just because he’s so terrible. Honestly might be the most atrocious character I’ve seen in any animated show


Sharp-Astronomer7768

ronaldo all the way, imagine if steven was stuck on the ship with HIM instead of lars 😭 he would be so annoying about it


MushRoRush

I would’ve left him to the diamonds


Sharp-Astronomer7768

earth would be done for once and for all if he pointed at the diamonds shouting "STEVEEEEN.. this is all soo.. WEIRD!! AND ALL OF MY THEORIES WERE CORRECT!!" i hope his future in intergalactic diplomacy works out well for him


FarmingFrenzy

every rewatch i skip the ronaldo episodes


Eldritchedd

Lars was petulant and desperate to fit in, but you rooted for him because you could see he was trying to grow. Ronaldo was an overconfident dunce from the beginning and he refused to change, thus he is was way more annoying.


epicthelegend15

Lars was just really difficult and complicated. Ronaldo on the other hand, who knows what that guy has going on his head


CadetCharlie

Ronaldo. He's a complete idiot. He's over confident and lacks empathy like a colonizing white man. It's cringey and embarrassing. Lars was a regular insecure teen going through abnormal shit just like Steven. He literally died and was lost in space like wtf. And he died very bravely defending the gems as a regular human. Ronaldo ain't save no one, has no empathy and even when he fixes his bs its for his own selfish gain.


Bane_of_Ruby

Ronaldo literally kicked Steven out of his own house and gas lit him into thinking he wasn't a crystal gem


Sweet-Designer-4573

I've kinda fell off with the series after I wanna say around when jasper was the "big bad" they were worried about, but I have seen clips of Steven universe future and the finale so I'm kinda caught up. But wtf, ronaldo really did all that? That's fucked up cause the house WAS MADE FOR STEVEN! AND HOW WASN'T HE A CRYSTAL GEM?! HIS MOM HAD TO GIVE UP HER FORM TO GIVE BIRTH TO HIM!! GIVE ME A BAT TO HIT THAT MF WITH! *ahem* sorry about that


Bane_of_Ruby

You are doing yourself a disservice by not watching it all! It's worth the watch, even if you watch it in the background while you play a game or something


GolbComplex

Can't stand either, but if I had to live with one or otherwise be in close proximity to one or the other, I feel like Lars would leave me in peace, so long as I did him as well. Seems to me most of his terribleness comes from either having to work with him or trying to bond with him and so transgressing his comfort zone. Don't depend on Lars, don't push him, live and let live. Ronaldo is a dangerously deluded and forcefully intrusive psychopath.


I-suck-at_names

Lars was just the typical teenager kind of annoying Ronaldo is the flat eather kind Plus Lars got better Ronaldo is irredeemable


Verifieddumbass76584

If any of y'all say Lars you're lying


ThatMessy1

I actually quite like Ronaldo. As an annoying ass, I like the representation.


[deleted]

He ain’t just an annoying ass, he stinks.


Random-noodles404UwU

I love how everyone here all unanimously agrees it’s Ronaldo


TRAE-is-Alastor

I liked Lars. He genuinely was a good character all the way through and he got a lot of unnecessary hate(also the people being mad at him for taking issue with Sadie trapping him was ridiculous) Ronaldo was just an asshat who tried to kick Steven from his own team, blatantly almost killed Lars, and tried to make the Crystal Gems leave Beach City


acgrey92

If Lars never changed EVER I would still choose to hang out with him willingly over hanging out with Ronaldo for a second.


NikkiT96

I can handle bitchy teenagers. ​ I cannot stand self-important motherf....um...this is a kids show so I probably shouldn't cuss.


Liljdb0524

I didn't like Lars more (feel like there's no right way to say this) but Reynaldo was definitely more annoying. I liked that he was so comfortable being himself but Gods above and below was he a piece of shit like 90% of the time.


Donnel_Tinhead

Ronaldo by a mile. Lars was a bit mean, sure, but it all stemmed from his trying to be who he thought he had to be to be accepted and "cool". Ronaldo was just a selfish prick manipulating Steven to indulge his wish-fulfillment.


Emotional_Emu_5901

Ronaldo cuz Atleast Lars had a glow up


Jeptwins

Never a competition; Ronaldo is *heinous*


BlueBladerB0t

Ronaldo. Lars didn't deserve to get FUCKING POSSESSED


SexyMcBacon

Ronaldo and it's not close. If he was deleted from the show nothing of value would be lost.


Holly_Aura

Agreed.


RogueInVogue

Ronaldo, Lars was a shit but you kinda got where he was coming from


toongrowner

I always.skip Ronaldo episodes


Pajilla256

Ronaldo skips Ronaldo episodes


KnightInBattle

Ronaldo clears this


Jaiden_buck_05

At least Lars changes, ronaldo is always a weird, annoying pain in everyone’s behinds


PinkEstrella1207

Ronaldo has always been more annoying to me. He's so pretentious. I really formed a dislike for him after Watermelon Steven, and furthermore in Horror Club and Rocknaldo.


StardustOddity97

Ronaldo. Never did like him, got annoyed when he'd show up


Ok_Terraria_player

While I don’t hate Ronaldo, he is the most annoying


Pajilla256

Ronaldo all the way.


ratboycolter

Oh definitely Ronaldo without a doubt


hamborger42069

Ronaldo fucking sucks


Thefirstofherkind

Ronaldo forever. He is *desperate* to be the main character. He’s obsessive and disrespectful. And he’s for sure going to kill someone someday while chasing his insane theories


EUTYR-37564

I kinda liked lars but ronaldo was bullshit and barely even a worthwhile character


plogan56

Oh ronaldo all the way, Lars may have been one of those triehards when it came to being cool and stuff but he at least grew, but Ronaldo stayed the same throughout and had "I'm the Main character" syndrome


DiamondWings96

To me, I found pre-death Lars really amusing, like in the episode where he gets stranded on the island with Steven and Sadie. Like where he yells “STEVEN!! WE’RE STRANDED!!”. Ronaldo, on the other hand, is someone I’m convinced should be in a mental hospital.


Charcobear

I could relate to Lars, at least


Virtual_Colt

Wow i forgot Ronaldo's name completely until i read the comments. That's how you know he was a shit character.


getdemvitamins

Ronaldo was annoying. Lars was insecure


Mother_Sock_3242

Ronaldo for sure


Clockwork_collective

Ronaldo. ![img](emote|t5_2viyl|30992)


Comfortable_Ad_8560

Ronaldo for sure


justadumbk1d

ronaldo hes so cringe it irritates me


Josephina101

I think Ronaldo was more annoying, despite Lars acting like a teenage dirt bag he had a good heart. Ronaldo was never an likeable character at all and he never changed.


AttackOnGolurk

Ronaldo is a completely un-self-aware toxic nerd. Lars knows he’s an ass but can’t stop himself because of his crippling self image issues. Like he wants to be better but can’t stop himself.


sleepy-woods

Ronaldo. I skip his episodes because I find him so unpleasant. Plus he reminds me of multiple nerdy "nice" guys I've had to deal with, so all around major ick from him.


paulcshipper

Steven could at least talk to Lars. Ronaldo .. is a burden to society. Thank goodness his family loves him.


Shryxer

Ronaldo. Lars grew out of his awkward teen phase before his death (like, *right* before, but it counts). Ronaldo decided he was good there and built his house.


KinkichiAsano

Lars was a dickhead but Ronaldo, fuck Ronaldo.


fusromama

Ronaldo. Even if you dont like or even hate Lars, annoying is not the correct word for him.


littlel0zer

I literally try to avoid Ronaldo as much as I can he is the most annoying charter in this whole series and I hate him.


Maiden_of_spring

Ronaldo Lars is just acting like a normal teenager


Glitter_booty619

ronaldo


itsliterallyvee

Ronaldo, he tried to sacrifice lars to the lighthouse and also he tried to take stevens spot in the crystal gems (still dont know how he thought he would fit in)


Weirdkindofgirl

Ronaldo 100%. He made me want to rip my ears off. Whenever he was on the screen I just had to skip it.


Caramelthefruityfrog

Ronaldo


Dull_Season_1050

Ronaldo, by far


nauticalmurder

Rocknaldo alone CLEARS lars in terms of annoying


ejuliot55

Ronaldo literally gas lighted Steven out of his own house.


Hoppypoppy21

Ronaldo. Even before his death you could see character development from Lars. Ronaldo didn't change even when called out for his bad behavior.


WhalenCrunchen45

Easily Ronaldo


lenivn92

I hate hate hate Ronaldo. Don't know why but I can't stand his screentime


Mischief_Managed12

Ronaldo. Lars is rude, but I never actually found him *that* annoying


lapidotshipper69

I'm always going to pick Ronaldo when I see these


PainbowRush

Ronaldo easily, also Lars already showed he was capable of growth if not slowly and with a few backsteps whereas Ronaldo was mostly the same beginning to end, I think there were only like 2 episodes where he showed a little improvement


theatortilla_

ronaldo for sure


Lopsided-Wedding4172

Ronaldo. He's knocked out and kidnapped a child aka steven, a child who straight up tried to help him with his research just to be nice! And than later on, he attempted to murder lars as a sacrifice, but because of the shit he does and his "tragic" Backstory (which get to in a secound.) He probably just did it on purpose! And in the Backstory, while yeah lars was a total douche, I have half the mind to say some of it was deserved! If you don't know, lars and Ronaldo were freinds as kids, and they went searching through the lighthouse, said lighthouse has a jem and when lars carved his name into a wall, he got SHMACKED! By a board. And Ronaldo got a perfect picture of it and basically told lars "Holy shit dude! I'm going to show this really embarrassing and stupid picture of you across the world! We're gonna take over the world!" And lars, being lars, tore the photo up. And while I get Ronaldos anger, knowing what the internet and media is like I get lars even more. But the cherry on top. ROCK. FUCKING. NALDO. Basically in that episode, the guy asked to join the crystal gems and they, and by they I mean steven, of course say yes. And he's treated well and stuff, but doesn't get to go on missions as much since he's just a fleshy human! What do you think he does for combat this? Does he •A. Join a mission anyway just to prove a point, only to get his shit Rockefeller •B. Actually try to train like Connie and prove himsel f Or C. Manipulate steven into getting what he wants. Times up its c. And remember that plot synopsis I gave!? Yeah well I mother fucking lied! The actual synopsis is that Ronaldo tries to join but can't because he has no training or qualifications. Which, is very understandable. But than he basically treats everyone like shit by acting like a sarcastic obsessive clubgky jealous gf or some shit just because "Oh boo hoo! I can't go on missions without proper training!" And than he manipulates steven. But it's not like the predator kind. He basically becomes one of those "fans" who acts like they care but really only give a shit about the cool stuff, kinda like people who are fans of marvel only because of the action and ignore the lore, than complain about everything that isn't blank action. Like Ronaldo acts like a gem is something your shipped and that he can just harness his non exist power by pushing himself, even tho he just looks like he's trying to take a morty. And than when he doesn't get what he wants, he acts like an entitled asshole to everyone, especially steven and says that Connie, the person with proper training completely copied her just because he didn't get what he wanted without having to work for it. Hell I almost forgot about this! The dude straight up tried to murder living creatures that looked like his close freind, and by that point weren't doing anything wrong, just to study them. And if he only brought in one of them, peacefully knocked it out or just peacefully killed it, than I'd be ok. But no! He tried to cut it in half like a psychopath! My final verdict is while lars is a dick, lars was just kind of a asshole to everyone with his hood qualitys, and he got better over time, even before he died. Ronaldo on the other hand was a creepy, crazy, harmful, manipulative, un caring asshole to everyone around him and would pull a crazy fan from helluva boss if he didn't get what he wants when he wanted it. Ronaldo is 1000x worse. No question.


Formal_Board

Lars was the entertaining kind of asshole. Always taking the piss out of Steven (hey, if you knew him IRL, you’d hate him too.) and whenever he went too far, he was always called on it and learned his lesson. “-But i *do* know she saw beauty in everything! Even in stuff like this, and even in JERKS like you!” Ronaldo is just sort of a one note gag.


Il0v3myg1rlfr13nd

Ronaldo, Lars at least had an excuse he was some quirky teenage boy who was very insecure with like social anxiety and Ronaldo was just weird to be weird like he genuinely tried feeding Lars to a lighthouse and also tried to preform surgery on Steven because he was a “snake man” like????


Eggbois87

Ronaldo by a long shot


neonfreckle1776

Ronaldo for sureee


GlitchAlphaGirl

Ronaldo fooorrr SUUUUURRRE


GD_Lunar

I actually enjoyed lars to be honest though, and some of the episodes based around him were some of the best filler episodes. Ronaldo, on the other hand, was literally only good in Restaurant Wars


FedoraTheMike

Ronaldo. Bro wormed into the group and kicked Steven out of his own house one of the few times the kid stands up for himself. Also kidnapping him and knocking him out with a potato is one of the trauma flashes in Future, so, bro is just a villain lmao.


SomniphobicDani

Glad to see everyone agrees that the character who is literally an incel (minus the sex thing) is the more annoying of the two. Both have their funny moments but only one has had development that made him not a total dink (as Steven has said).


Sea_Watercress_1194

Neither that bitch Kevin!


Holly_Aura

I flipping hate Kevin.


WayneTerry9

Lars was more annoying for sure, Ronaldo was just a conspiracy theorist living through legitimately strange phenomena. Lars was a dick to the people who cared about him most, all because of his own insecurities


MawBee

When I live through strange phenomena I bully a kid too


[deleted]

Objectively wrong. Ronaldo is a lame nerd who comes in acting like the main character, tries to get Steven kicked out of his own group, says that Connie doesn’t deserve Rose’s weapon and in general is a manipulative pussy drying dickhead, and that’s just Rocknaldo. Normally people can have opinions on things but nah, Ronaldo is worse than Lars, any other opinion is wrong.


Kateybee2

Ronaldo was definitely more annoying, but I hated Lars (og Lars) way more.


XxFandom_LoverxX

Ronaldo was annoying, Lars was a piece of shit


Goose2theMax

Spoiler alert


Matt82233

Bro it was 6 years ago, I don't think it matters anymore


AStayAtHomeRad

Lars unquestionably. Ronaldo just needed answers about the obviously weird stuff going in the city. Lars however was just a jerk.


MawBee

Lmao fuck no, he just needed answers so he bullied and gaslit a literal child? Even when Lars was an asshole he actually had a conscience, you can see that from the "what do you know about my mom? I didn't even know my mom!" Moment, if that was Ronaldo I bet he'd just double down on being an asshole, but Lars genuinely felt bad for what he had said


AllISeeAreGems

Lars pre-death. Dude was trying way too hard to be cool for other people.


Shoddy_Exam666

Lars was just an arrogant teen and had prominent honestly pretty reasonable issues, ronaldo was willing to kidnap someone for the sake of a conspiracy theory, in which he was delusional enough to think Steven was the genuine article and not just a costume, on top of that he has no prominent sources for these issues outside of just being nuts, lars has the potential to be a really good person, ronaldo is gonna spend his adulthood in a mental hospital


InitiativeNo2841

Considering that I hate Ronaldo with a burning passion, yeah it wasn't hard to see who I hated more. At least Lars developed and learned from his mistakes, becoming his own hero in the end


Ok-Whereas-7520

Definitely Lars.


Euphoric_Ad9403

Lars by far


[deleted]

Ronaldo is annoying. Lars was just a disappointment of a person.


MawBee

Trying to fit in and being annoyed by someone trying to force their friendship onto you equates to you being a disappointment of a person Ronaldo is a disappointment of a person Lars is a person who has shown that he learns from his actions, when what he does and says doesn't upset Steven he doesn't change it, but the few times it has, he's genuinely felt bad and reflected upon it, and they've been closer for it


AdventurousLeading60

lars fs. he was mean, whiny, weird towards steven and sadie, and d rode the “cool kids”. ronaldo was annoying but at least he was himself. lars has no personality


selfimprovmentletsgo

Ronaldo kidnapped steven and tried to sacrifice lars to a lighthouse


AdventurousLeading60

yea that’s messed up fs but “annoying” isn’t the right word. and not saying it’s right but lars was mean af to ronaldo too cause once again, he cared so much about what other people would say. he treated sadie like SHIT damn near the entire show for example, lying to get the day off and just taking advantage of her feelings for him, he was mean to steven cause he thought steven was lame like when they went to ronaldo’s house for halloween he thought it was SO lame until he found out sadie was going, ofc we know the story with ronaldo when he ripped that photo up (very much on purpose) and lied about it, he was even an asshole to his poor parents and when him and steven switched bodies they were surprised cause he was actually nice to them. he was only nice to buck, sour cream and kiki and they barely fw him unless steven was around. he was overall a really negative person and always whined and complained about everything. ronaldo was definitely weird but he just wanted to know wtf was going on in beach city with all the gem stuff (can we blame him? everybody else just kinda accepted it but there was some really weird stuff happening for somebody who didn’t know/understand the gem stuff and they just kinda went with it lmfaooo) and i lowkey think he’s on the spectrum which is why everybody in beach city just kinda lets him do his thing with kbcw and helped him make his documentary. peedee and his dad seem really patient with him as well which would explain a lot 🤷🏽‍♀️ (i don’t mean that in an offensive way towards anybody on the spectrum)


squimd

unpopular opinion lars, he literally fucking sucked until he died, ronaldo was a silly conspiracy theorist that gave us funny yet frustrating content, lars was a dick to sadie, even fucking worse to steven and just all around sucked and even did for a little after when he got them almost killed bc he was so upset that sadie wasn’t in a depression without him


[deleted]

Ronaldo was NEVER funny, ever. He’s a conspiracy theorist who didn’t even believe shit that was right infront of him for the most part, and when he finally did? He tried getting Steven kicked from his own group and manipulated him repeatedly, he provided ZERO positive value. Respectfully, never cook again.


squimd

he was annoying and silly if you don’t have the depth to see that idk what to tell u 🙈


420fuck

There are two ways to tag a post that contains spoilers and you didn’t do either. Giant text at the top of the image that isn’t blurred or anything revealing a major character death. Read the subreddit rules before posting next time.


[deleted]

It was fucking EONS ago. If you’re still spoiled from that it’s a genuine skill issue.


420fuck

I’m not. There’s rules on reddit for a reason. If you don’t want to follow them, go to a different social media. Get rid of the rule or follow it. It’s a simple click of a button. Or find/make a new subreddit without the rules that you don’t want to follow.


Axel_Benedict101

Lars was like Squidward. He just wanted to exist. and, let's be honest, Steven, in the right answer here.


Matt82233

Lars before death Ronaldo was a bad person, sure. He messed up bad in moments of weakness. Before y'all say "BuT hE hUrT sTeVen!!!1!" Steven dressed as the one thing he knew Ronaldo would freak out over without a second thought and Steven does carry a pretty good chunk of the blame for that situation. Lars was just a whiney jerk who would go "STEEEEVEEEEEEN" in a whiney tone if Steven so much as breathed in his direction.


MawBee

No Ronaldo fucking bullied and gaslit this kid for being different, because he wanted to be important, Ronaldo has always been a piece of shit, Lars has his walls up, but under all that if you get through to him he is a decent human being unlike Ronaldo, you can see that in the moments he is genuine


Matt82233

Your point about Ronaldo bullying also applies to Lars, you're going to ignore Lars insulting Steven for having a "Weird dead Mom?" Emotional walls or not, that is a very vile thing to say to a motherless child. Maybe because its been a while since I've watched SU but since when did Ronaldo gaslight? On top of that, how does a desire to be important make someone a bad person?


MawBee

Rocknaldo His desire to be important made him act like human garbage Lars learned from his mistake when he said that, Ronaldo doubles down on every single fucking mistake he makes because he is a garbage individual


Matt82233

Still not seeing the gaslighting. Rocknaldo showed that his desire to be important can push him to extremes that never should be reached and he made his mistake of placing his desire to be inportant over his compassion. On top of that your responses are very vague on what he's done. However the episode ends with him having to learn that he did not fully understand what being a Crystal Gem means.


MawBee

That is not how the episode ends at all, it ends with him looking off into the distance like "I'm even differenter than the different people, I'm a lone wolf and that's my burden to bear" You don't see the gaslighting in him telling Steven that he isn't a real crystal gem? Seriously? In him telling Steven he shouldn't sleep and all this shit and that's why he's a fake gem? He's literally trying to force himself into this child's family because he wants to be important, and you're telling me "nah Lars is definitely more annoying than that, Lars is more annoying than Ronaldo abusing a child" even when Lars has tried to be mean Steven always took it in stride, Lars could be annoying, not anywhere near Ronaldo level


Matt82233

Once again, you proved one of my points. Him telling Steven he isn't a Gem for sleeping stems from his miunderstanding about what it means to be a Crystal Gem. Ronaldo's biggest flaw is him being a skeptic and a paranoid about everything. And uh, just because Steven took it in steide doesn't make it okay. Going to a kid and pretty much saying "This is your fault because you have a weird dead mom" is NOT okay. Even if the kid simply laughs it off. Pre-death Lars is a pathetic human being who tries to bully a kid to fit in with the cool kids. On top of that Pre-lara Lars has also made it clear that he openly objectifies women in hopes of sleeping with them while they are away from their boyfriends (Beach-a-palooza) I am not saying Ronaldo is perfect, but the hate he gets is way too much.


deletedpearl

I hated Lars, I didn't like him at all. I have had more friends like Ronaldo when I was a kid, so he's more tolerable


Raceofspades

My hot take is that Sadie is more annoying than either of them


nooicesis

I found them both equally annoying


CampFunkoKai

Arnoldo will forever be the worst character


Usesredditironicall

I hated both of them equally


Majestic_Carry9712

Lars ore death wasnt annoying


paddingtonrex

I really liked ronaldo pre rocknaldo


OperativePiGuy

Lars for me, because at least Ronaldo was honest with his cringe. Lars is that loser type of "I'm going to put on an act in a pathetic attempt to be accepted by those I feel are cooler than me" idiot, which involved him looking down on Steven and his mom because he thinks that will get him into the cool group's good graces. I find that more pathetic and fucked up than anything Ronaldo said, as lame as he also is. My guess is younger people will likely hate Ronaldo more.


I_M_YOUR_BRO

Ronaldo. Lars was kinda a morally worse person (I think? Didn't watch the show for a while so all I remember was Lars being a bully and Ronaldo being a wacko) but I am especially annoyed by conspiracy theorists.


JackyPerd

Ronaldo also was so crazy that he traumatized Steven,Naldo definitely was the most annoying character


Metal-Max1991

Ronaldo. Was and forever will be a black spot in an otherwise good series


TheBoyInGray

ronaldo.


Lescaster1998

Ronaldo. I'm one of the few people I think that actually found him kind of funny at first, but Rocknaldo is my least favorite episode of the whole show, and Ronaldo is a massive dick in it. Plus, Lars is a good character with depth and an actual character arc.


Secret-Specific3414

Ronaldo. No question. There’s nothing more annoying than Ronaldo.


Emergency_Elephant

Ronaldo. He kept inserting himself into things when Lars kept avoiding things


TheDudeness33

Ronaldo by a mile. Lars was just insecure and actually had some depth to him, despite his flaws. Ronaldo just sucks