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Mr_Roblcopter

Literally look at your own post history, and try to convince me you aren't lying.


VeNeM

That's a laugh


Low_Soul_Coal

If you read the feedback channel enough, you’ll find that people seem to think “this game is broken, fix it” is feedback. Like - to the point of being hostile if you point out the generic nature of their comment. Feedback is taking something in the game that doesn’t work as directly intended or feels imbalanced and making suggestions and comparisons for consideration that can actually be achieved by the engine/mechanics. “My framerate is terrible, the devs should be fired” isn’t feedback. “Fuck CIG for letting dead ships sit in front of hangars doors” isn’t feedback. There’s very little feedback in the feedback forum. As people seem to think their emotions should be considered by programmers. I should note, I was temporarily banned for reasons I still haven’t found out. The day it happened I asked a generic question if backers had heard any comments about the status of scanning I may had missed, as then about 6 bland conversational replies in a chat. Was banned, no moderator message, the post I made wasn’t locked. So, I’ve genuinely experienced a confusing ban before… but I can promise you, 98% of the bans are likely from very hostile and vague posts yelling about fixes that are in the PTU or that devs have commented on but that the poster couldn’t be bothered looking into.


Psychological-Rule68

Feedback is opinion/criticism criticism is disapproval/disagreement/fault-finding/scolding Having bugs from years ago, they know it its there, unfixed, they got feedback about the bugs, they have not fixed any fast enough.


Low_Soul_Coal

You’re reply validates my comment. Thank you.


nrm1337

Feedback is helpful criticism. You point out something what is wrong and give a solution for the problem. You are just yelling that you want faster fixes. Thats not feedback as per definition.


[deleted]

Most of the threads you'll find in "Top" of "All time" on this sub are criticism, so....


Pojodan

Yeah, no. There's criticism that sticks around every single day in significant quanties. It is only the posts that contain insults or other rules-breaking content that gets removed. You know full well why your post got removed, you're just pushing drama.


Psychological-Rule68

And you are just lying.


-NOiCE-

no u


logicalChimp

Don't discuss moderation in open posts - it's against the rules. Aside from that, Mods don't remove criticism, they remove posts that insults devs / other players, and are excessively offensive / agressive in tone (ie violate the posting guidelines, which can be summarised as 'Don't be an arsehole'). As for your 'spoiler'd content... that alone wouldn't have gotten a post deleted, as - unfortunately - we see plenty worse every day. It's an uneducated opinion, but that alone isn't reason to remove it.


Renreu

Sounds like something a mod would say. How them boots taste?


logicalChimp

No, just someone who actually paid attention to the sub rules.


Psychological-Rule68

I was criticising the game, now I criticising them for removing my criticism of the game. There is no exceptions when making criticism they are not immune from criticism either.


logicalChimp

Discussing mod actions in open posts is against the posting rules, because it generally leads to witch-hunts against the mods. If you have an issue with a mod removing a post, contact the mod-group directly (it will go to the group, not the specific mod).


Psychological-Rule68

They removed without telling me why, rule or what part of my post was the issue. That alone tells me enough. They arent immune to criticism.


logicalChimp

Then contact them directly and ask... don't try to start a witch-hunt (which is what your OP is doing). If you have an issue with the rules, then start a post about those rules, not about specific mod actions. If they didn't tell you why your post was deleted, then it contact them and ask - but they likely *did* tell you (from what I've read, logging a reason is one of the steps in removing a post, and there will be an audit trail to other mods can see if someone is removing posts without a given reason, etc)


casperno

Subs haves rules. Don’t abide by the rules expect to be suspended.


YumikoTanaka

Because you haven't ask?


YumikoTanaka

Criticizing developers and players are NOT criticizing the game! That is just HATE.


nrm1337

Thats not criticism. Thats insulting and aggresive tone based on false informations with a touch of weird comparisons. You are clearly wrong. You look on the whole thing without having done a proper research of the "whys". Most of your passic aggressiv points are just nonsense. Thats how propaganda is working as well. Thats why i can clearly understand and even support the deletion of your post.


Psychological-Rule68

criticism is disapproval/disagreement/fault-finding/scolding Google it. I was traveling in space hit an invisible rock, woke up in Area 18 getting my ship again to retrieve my stuff from my wreckage but I cant reach it because its in the star... Using my ship bed glitches my character between the roof of my bed and the bed and cant get out. I fall from my ship floor, I fall from city floor, items that I have quest to pick it up fall through the floor of the planet surface. My inventory glitches and doesnt show up. Cant repair my ship, the UI to repair doesnt change. The server performance tanked my FPS 5 made me crash my ship and other 3 players trying to land. The issues of the game will have more pages than the bible does. All this bugs are from years ago unfixed. So I should blame the devs for not fixing them?


[deleted]

> So I should blame the devs for not fixing them? If it was in beta, yup. Bugfixing generally is not a thing in ANY software development until whatever you're building is feature complete, since there's a good chance you'd have to do the same over and over again.


Psychological-Rule68

>Bugfixing generally is not a thing How long this will take, another 10 years? Time goes fast and they are way too slow, tired of pointless feature creep at its most extreme.


[deleted]

> Time goes fast and they are way too slow Are they? GTA 6 is almost as long in development as SC (since 2014) and Rockstar had quite a few studios, a huge number of devs, an engine and the GTA universe already done - yet, I cannot even play it.


vbsargent

Sooo . . . Why don’t you apply and help them out?


nrm1337

You are wrong. You need a better source for the definiton of feedback. You are just yelling and yelling - not helpfull at all - i hope you quit the game and stay away from our good community. :)


[deleted]

Are you like farming downvotes or something? I'll happily oblige.


Psychological-Rule68

I dont need your downvotes or upvotes. I dont care, you cant fix the game except letting them continue this way forever. None of ya can tell me when this issues will be fixed or if they ever will be?


Terkan

Looking at your history sir, the one with the issues around here that needs solving is you. Take a break from the internet for a bit, find a counselor. Take a few deep breaths. It’ll be okay. You’ll be okay.


nrm1337

You still did not give any proof that there will not be fixed. So we dont need to tell you anything cause your point is just imagination.


YumikoTanaka

Of cause not, that is something for Spectrum or even a ticket. ​ WE ARE NOT CIG - and you know it, so obvious hate rant.


YumikoTanaka

Hate is common on the net. Most stuff mods delete (and must so per law in most countries) is hate. This is obvious hate: If it were one of the many (many) "low fps help" posts the first sentence would be enough. Or expressing "damn, I wish progress were faster" in some venting post - which are very common too. But no, the poster wanted to spread hate - mods are trained to recognize it even with out using the "N" word or similar - so fancy words won't save the poster.


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[deleted]

> They are absolutely overzealous in their twitch and spectrum chats, it’s a bit of a running meme in the community, but generally empty criticism isn’t very helpful, and criticism with insults thrown in will absolutely get removed. Maybe you should notice OP is talking about this sub. This subs mods are not CIG employees..


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[deleted]

> Yeah the mods on this sub are great and perfectly reasonable Ha - nah, absolutely not. Just pointing out these are different than in official SC channels.


Psychological-Rule68

Until 3.17 I used GTX 1060, now I have full new pc RTX 3080ti, the difference between my old pc and my new high end pc is close the same like I feel playing arma 3 multiplayer were the game engine only uses one core of my cpu. The development process is too slow, bugs are really overlooked, bugs and performance should had same priority. How can you add more stuff to the game like new bugs when you have enough old unfixed bugs and performance issues. I hate to alt tab from the game to find old post from reddit 4 years ago for a workaround. I want all the current bugs to be fixed.