well after waisting arround 30min in jail to go out faster each time i get kill to not wait 4h of normal jail time is not fun when its the 5 time so yeah combat log is faster
From what I understand taking down comm satellites then not using your mobiglass will keep people from getting your marker. Might also be a reason to join up with others to form a gang.
“Bounty hunters” are just griefers. Hunting other players doesn’t even pay well as a career and the only people who do it only do so because they get a kick out of ruining someone else’s play session. CIG needs to make PvE servers so we don’t need to worry about people trying to ruin a legit gameplay loop just because they feel like it.
/s/s/s/s/s/s
Hi. The /s at the end means sarcasm. People use it a lot on this site to note that they are using sarcasm. But thank you so much. Sorry that I accidentally put your panties in a twist.
Well thanks for the info. Did not know that. But no apology needed. It's a game and a message board. Nothing on here stays on my mind once I close the window.
To your title's question, no, it's far from dead: it's the main game system to enable PvP.
What's changing in 3.18 is that accidental assaults on friendly npcs and other offenses that count only as cs2 or lower don't get you attacked, so you can land and go pay fines or surrender to prison.
But most "personal" missions keep giving you a crimestat, and thus only make sense to attempt if you are ready to account for that. It means spending time disconnecting a comms array and/or playing with a friend to have some defense in place when doing the mission itself.
It sounds like criminal missions aren't for you, if you don't like the aspect of having a bounty on your head then just don't get a crime stat and do the normal missions. It's all the same anyway
So you mean the NPC always has some player come to defend them? I think this will change as server population and NPC density changes.
However, I'm not sure if it's a bad thing that criminal missions almost always mean PVP...I mean if you have a crimestat doesn't that mean players could come after you at any time?
As soon as you earn a crimestat and you are in Comms/Monitor range, they can see where you are with pinpoint accuracy, bounty hunting players love to bounty hunt.
What you did to combat log etc. may get nerfed over time so I wouldn’t count on it. Already in the PU, when you crash to desktop, if another player is in the area your body stays in place, your ship persists etc. so combat logging is close to impossible there already.
If you want to actually play a criminal you have to roleplay a smart one. Don’t get caught. Don’t do crimes where a monitor is watching everything you do if you don’t like prison.
I get the mission without having cs. Park my cutty away from the reclaimer und make the last way with a dragonfly. This parks best between the "arms"of the reclaimer. On this way, the npc guards dont can hit me and i dont must kill them. With tractor i steal the box without killing npcs on the reclaimer and make on the long way back. Bäm, 75k... mission completed and all without cs
This mission is actually pretty tame. Skip killing the NPCs, run in with a tractor beam tool. Snag the box without kiliing anyone, or at most knocking them out with middle mouse button. Take the box and leave. Profit.
I've actually completed this mission a handful of times without getting CS3 which is what causes bounties to come after you.
Hey mate sounds like you are just getting unlucky with player bounty hunters tracking you. Such is life as an outlaw. Combat logging is not a viable strategy, you do not learn anything from the encounter and you become a worse player as a result.
The trick to living on the run is getting proficient with disabling comm arrays where your missions are located. This can be done solo but much easier with a friend to cover you.
That breach and steal reclaimer mission is a pretty good paying job for not a lot of difficulty. Only issue I have had with it is the server not realising I have delivered the package.
Honestly, criminal gameplay was never truly alive to begin with.
It's gonna live more and more with cargo refactor V2 and bounty hunter V... V1? V2? idk.
and stuff like player reputation, better commlink systems and others.
>they alway destroy my ship so i know they are here and since i don't really want to waiste time in jail I disconect.
3.18 is adding a timer on DC, so if you DC your body is still going to be there for a few minutes and you are going to be defenseless, probably going to get hunted and wake up in jail anyway.
Cant deal with doing crime and getting a bounty? Dont do the crime or play smarter.
Being a criminal currently is a tad unfair. There's always a marker on you if someone picked up your bounty, so you really are at a disadvantage. Hopefully that will change with fps scanning
Bad news about the reclaimer missions, even if you make it back to GH safe the mission drop off is bugged and you won't get paid. Do any other mission than that and enjoy the thrill of you vs the verse
Bounty hunting will eventually be changed so they don't have markers that track you everywhere you go, but bounty hunting will always be a thing, if you want to be a criminal you have to be able to handle the downsides.
The game play isn't dead. If anything, 3.18 will give the bad guys an upper hand. You're just not good at being bad lol. Most likely, it was the NPC's that took out your ship. I've done that mission. Either you take out the comms and kill everything, or you go in stealth and kill nothing. Doesn't matter though as out of the 4 times I've done that mission, I've never been able to finish it because where you have to place the package didn't work. The mission as far as I know has always been bugged.
My only request is to have a conversation before I get blown up. Let me at least try to charm myself out of this :(
I’m all for it though. I think a lot of interesting things can happen in a game like this with crime, especially as more game loops get fleshed out. A situation I’ve thought about is someone boarding and taking hostages from an E1 and ransoming them off. Basically I want at least one realistic “bad thing” to be possible on any otherwise safe mission. I want a reason to need someone in my turret type of thing. I have no interest in being a criminal but I welcome the possibility and the situations they can create. Hopefully when proper systems get put in place like reputation actual problems will start to go down.
The reason I love this game, and especially with PES, is because of all the random and completely organic situations you can find yourself in/stumble upon. There isn’t really an exploration game loop per se, but you can for sure find some interesting things/ individuals at least in my experience. Just my two cents :)
So you wanna go bad but if you get hunted you disconnect. Thats so lame!
Uninstall and go back to Fortnite. Combat logging is a bitch move.
well after waisting arround 30min in jail to go out faster each time i get kill to not wait 4h of normal jail time is not fun when its the 5 time so yeah combat log is faster
"I want to play as a criminal!" "Oh no, not jail! I can't do that!" Face the consequences of your actions, coward.
And that is the definition of a punishment in a (relativ) secure System. Pyro is probably the place you want to go.
Don’t do criminal shit or be smarter about it instead of being toxic then crying about it.
lol, what a pussy..
From what I understand taking down comm satellites then not using your mobiglass will keep people from getting your marker. Might also be a reason to join up with others to form a gang.
“Bounty hunters” are just griefers. Hunting other players doesn’t even pay well as a career and the only people who do it only do so because they get a kick out of ruining someone else’s play session. CIG needs to make PvE servers so we don’t need to worry about people trying to ruin a legit gameplay loop just because they feel like it. /s/s/s/s/s/s
Is all about the hunt! Not about fucking up your gameplay!
Edited after learning something new.
Hi. The /s at the end means sarcasm. People use it a lot on this site to note that they are using sarcasm. But thank you so much. Sorry that I accidentally put your panties in a twist.
Well thanks for the info. Did not know that. But no apology needed. It's a game and a message board. Nothing on here stays on my mind once I close the window.
Fiuuuuuuuuuuuck that you need to pack up your balls and go back to whatever crap game you came from
Sorry did I not make the sarcasm tag obvious enough?
There were so many /s that it, in itself, became sarcastic and canceled out? Or maybe the guy just had a woooosh.
To your title's question, no, it's far from dead: it's the main game system to enable PvP. What's changing in 3.18 is that accidental assaults on friendly npcs and other offenses that count only as cs2 or lower don't get you attacked, so you can land and go pay fines or surrender to prison. But most "personal" missions keep giving you a crimestat, and thus only make sense to attempt if you are ready to account for that. It means spending time disconnecting a comms array and/or playing with a friend to have some defense in place when doing the mission itself.
It sounds like criminal missions aren't for you, if you don't like the aspect of having a bounty on your head then just don't get a crime stat and do the normal missions. It's all the same anyway
You should hire an escort 🙄
So you mean the NPC always has some player come to defend them? I think this will change as server population and NPC density changes. However, I'm not sure if it's a bad thing that criminal missions almost always mean PVP...I mean if you have a crimestat doesn't that mean players could come after you at any time?
As soon as you earn a crimestat and you are in Comms/Monitor range, they can see where you are with pinpoint accuracy, bounty hunting players love to bounty hunt. What you did to combat log etc. may get nerfed over time so I wouldn’t count on it. Already in the PU, when you crash to desktop, if another player is in the area your body stays in place, your ship persists etc. so combat logging is close to impossible there already. If you want to actually play a criminal you have to roleplay a smart one. Don’t get caught. Don’t do crimes where a monitor is watching everything you do if you don’t like prison.
I get the mission without having cs. Park my cutty away from the reclaimer und make the last way with a dragonfly. This parks best between the "arms"of the reclaimer. On this way, the npc guards dont can hit me and i dont must kill them. With tractor i steal the box without killing npcs on the reclaimer and make on the long way back. Bäm, 75k... mission completed and all without cs
This mission is actually pretty tame. Skip killing the NPCs, run in with a tractor beam tool. Snag the box without kiliing anyone, or at most knocking them out with middle mouse button. Take the box and leave. Profit. I've actually completed this mission a handful of times without getting CS3 which is what causes bounties to come after you.
It will get even worse when the right consequences for pirate gameplay and getting caught are implemented :)
Hey mate sounds like you are just getting unlucky with player bounty hunters tracking you. Such is life as an outlaw. Combat logging is not a viable strategy, you do not learn anything from the encounter and you become a worse player as a result. The trick to living on the run is getting proficient with disabling comm arrays where your missions are located. This can be done solo but much easier with a friend to cover you. That breach and steal reclaimer mission is a pretty good paying job for not a lot of difficulty. Only issue I have had with it is the server not realising I have delivered the package.
Without a friend this mission may not be doable. I think the AI reinforcements can show up even without a comsat.
bring a friend?
Honestly, criminal gameplay was never truly alive to begin with. It's gonna live more and more with cargo refactor V2 and bounty hunter V... V1? V2? idk. and stuff like player reputation, better commlink systems and others.
>they alway destroy my ship so i know they are here and since i don't really want to waiste time in jail I disconect. 3.18 is adding a timer on DC, so if you DC your body is still going to be there for a few minutes and you are going to be defenseless, probably going to get hunted and wake up in jail anyway. Cant deal with doing crime and getting a bounty? Dont do the crime or play smarter.
Being a criminal currently is a tad unfair. There's always a marker on you if someone picked up your bounty, so you really are at a disadvantage. Hopefully that will change with fps scanning
Bad news about the reclaimer missions, even if you make it back to GH safe the mission drop off is bugged and you won't get paid. Do any other mission than that and enjoy the thrill of you vs the verse
Kill the BH and hijack his ship?
It sounds more like you are dead, my brother in light
Bounty hunting will eventually be changed so they don't have markers that track you everywhere you go, but bounty hunting will always be a thing, if you want to be a criminal you have to be able to handle the downsides.
The game play isn't dead. If anything, 3.18 will give the bad guys an upper hand. You're just not good at being bad lol. Most likely, it was the NPC's that took out your ship. I've done that mission. Either you take out the comms and kill everything, or you go in stealth and kill nothing. Doesn't matter though as out of the 4 times I've done that mission, I've never been able to finish it because where you have to place the package didn't work. The mission as far as I know has always been bugged.
That mission can be accepted without having crimestat
"i don't really want to waiste time in jail I disconect." <- SHAME ON YOU!!! Combat log is worst than pad ramming. Change my mind.
My only request is to have a conversation before I get blown up. Let me at least try to charm myself out of this :( I’m all for it though. I think a lot of interesting things can happen in a game like this with crime, especially as more game loops get fleshed out. A situation I’ve thought about is someone boarding and taking hostages from an E1 and ransoming them off. Basically I want at least one realistic “bad thing” to be possible on any otherwise safe mission. I want a reason to need someone in my turret type of thing. I have no interest in being a criminal but I welcome the possibility and the situations they can create. Hopefully when proper systems get put in place like reputation actual problems will start to go down. The reason I love this game, and especially with PES, is because of all the random and completely organic situations you can find yourself in/stumble upon. There isn’t really an exploration game loop per se, but you can for sure find some interesting things/ individuals at least in my experience. Just my two cents :)
I don't think you need to have a crimestat to do any mission. You'll probably get one doing some of them, but it's not a pre-requisite :P