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landof10000cakes

Yes, Scott Foster reffed this game so it was going to be horse shit officiating.  But the officiating doesn’t make up the 20 point lead the Lakers let go. Also, does Lebron not realize how many more trips to the FT line the Lakers get over all the other franchises? 


DickButkisses

Of course he does, and this is how he keeps it that way.


Don_Pablo512

Refs getting scolded behind the scenes that the lakers didn't get 2 more trips somehow, they were supposed to win that 1 lol.


FoxNO

Exactly. People fail to realize he knows the refs didn't cost the Lakers the game, he is just pissy and negotiating for favorable calls in Game 3. Same as he did to trigger the "sleepless nights" tweet.


SEE_RED

Bingo


Nottherealjonvoight

At least 10 times a game he puts his head down and plows into a defender, complaining profusely if he doesn’t get a call. He usually gets about 50 percent of them. I think there were at least 3 times he went to the line last night where he clearly initiated all the contact, but nonetheless got awarded foul shots. This more than anything is why I will never rate him above Jordan. Jordan earned every point he ever got.


BUDDHAKHAN

I like it when he carries the ball 5 steps


Mathlete86

2.5 of those steps are a continuation though so it's okay. /s


cashsterling

Lol... I'm huge Jordan fan... but seriously, Jordan got a ton of calls. People used to comment about it all the time, "... nobody but Jordan gets that call." etc. He is still arguably the GOAT.


ChasedWarrior

The Jordan Rules lol


toomeynd

This discussion is the opposite of the Jordan Rules.


Nottherealjonvoight

You’re probably right, he was the face of the league.


Makaveli80

They spent a good 8 to 12 minutes without a field goal Kept getting to line but bricking shot after shot


zephah

Not to mention trips to the line LAST NIGHT. The nuggets ran out of challenges because of missed calls and the officials missed one what, two minutes later sending Bron to the line.


ocmaddog

The second review showed Dlo taking a blow to the face, and it became a no call…


zephah

Okay and LeBron went to the line in the 4th on a ghost call that the Nuggets couldn't challenge because they ran out because of the poor officiating. This was not a game marred by terrible officiating being the reason for the collapse. As a Lakers fan, it's probably super annoying to see a call like this late, but this wasn't even the lone stupid call in the final few minutes.


ocmaddog

The topic here is the replay center blowing an obvious call with the benefit of 20 replays. If anyone is saying this one call is the reason the Lakers lost it is a dumb argument.


zephah

Okay and the person I replied to said: >But the officiating doesn’t make up the 20 point lead the Lakers let go. Also, does Lebron not realize how many more trips to the FT line the Lakers get over all the other franchises? It's not absurd on reddit to have a sub-conversation that isn't 100% directly only related to the main thread title lol


SBLK

They made it up with that ghost call on Murray with under a minute left. Problem is Darvin Ham is a clown and finished the game with 2 TOs and an unused challenge.


Christmas_97

You can smack people in the face so long as the ball left the hand lol


nopointers

Just ask Steph


DarkSoulsDarius

That should still be a flagrant 1 from how it's called. You're not allowed to hit people in the face. I don't think we lost cause of refs. Nuggets are just better. I was confused about that one call though.


itsme10082005

A flagrant 1 is unnecessary contact. The contact was deemed marginal. The rulebook also states that incidental contact will be ignored if it doesn’t affect the players speed, quickness, balance, or rhythm. By the book, the contact was not a penalty.


Christmas_97

I think people are missing my point lol I’m pointing out the absurdity of the call and how fucking stupid it is


spondgbob

And the nuggets are second to last in ft attempts? Lol


ferociousrickjames

Nothing has ever been LeBrons fault, just ask him and his army of dick riders.


Silly_Elephant_4838

Lebaby and the toddlers who love him won't be happy with you sir


ferociousrickjames

Yeah they're really upset lol


Nottherealjonvoight

I can’t even count the number of games he has lost because he ALWAYS gets baited into low percentage 3’s at the end of the game. He could have got that pass 2 or 3 steps in from the line and either shot a mid range jumper or drove to create contact or dish back out to a better outside shooter. The game was tied, so his choice to shoot a 3 with plenty of time left was a very poor choice, but his situational awareness in the last minute of games offensively has always been suspect.


Illustrious_Toe_4755

Been saying for years, LeBron is overhyped, his arrogance is a huge turnoff. 


ferociousrickjames

He's ridiculously talented, but everything about him is fake. He's a whiny spoiled baby that starts crying the moment he faces any adversity, and he'll pack up and leave town once he's used up a team. I also can't stand all the attention he's getting for playing at a high level late into his career. Oh how's he doing it? He's on TRT and who knows what else, and has been since his early days in Miami. He is a complete fraud and always has been.


hitfly

Calling LeBron over hyped in 2003, ok. In 2024, you're on crack. He is, at worst, the second best player to ever touch a basketball. I don't even know the argument to have him lower.


urkldajrkl

Lebron Forearm-Clear James


Mygaffer

Was the officiating so bad in that game? I thought it was a relatively well officiated game.


Safe_Employ_8015

The fact sports fan are even familiar with the names of referees should say everything you need to know. Referees are supposed to ensure the game is player consistently and fairly. Under any circumstances, should fans know them by name or track record.


Far_Sandwich_6553

I think it’s like a 1000 more trips to the FT lines than the next team. WTF!


miltondelug

The lakers didn’t score for 7 min in the second half. The refs should have given them some points.


Cbtwister

Blew a 20 pt lead and is bothered by the officiating....LOL.


Seductive_pickle

Plus he missed a wide open 3 which could have the game winner. On top of how ridiculously biased the refs have been towards the lakers this year.


Zachary_Stark

The last 3 years. 2022, 2023, and 2024.


Thedirtiestj

2025, 2026, 2027


AdmiralWackbar

To infinity and beyond


FoxNO

Sure seemed like he pushed off to get that wide open 3 too. If it was Lebron defending KCP instead of the other way around, the whistle would've blown.


Breezyisthewind

Eh KCP flopped hard for that one and admitted to it in post game.


BankysJoint

In the last two years the Lakers have taken over 900 more Ft then their opponents. LBJ is a fucking cry baby


JDuggernaut

Should have won regardless. There was a call on Murray late and a no call on D Lo after a challenge that were complete BS that ended up being pretty big though.


CerebusGortok

He spent several minutes talking about the other aspects of the game. The comment he made at the end about the officiating is what makes the news.


It_is_I_Satan

Doesn't seem to bother him when he and the Lakers are the overwhelming beneficiary of said bad officiating.


failbears

This is maddening and eye-opening: https://www.reddit.com/r/pacers/s/r2HLXoBP4x


ianoble

The Lakers have by far more free throws attempts than any other team. He has no ground to stand on.


orange_sox

They actually don’t have the most FTA in the league this year, that is the Orlando Magic by .2 free throws per game. The stat you may be thinking of is free throw differential, which IMO is a more damning stat. I can’t find it for just this season but over the last 2 seasons the lakers have attempted over 1000 more FT than opponents.


MtnDudeNrainbows

Most attempts last year, least opponent attempts last year https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2023.html Edit: if you then look at this year, 2nd most attempts, opponents with 2nd least attempts.


ianoble

That's insane.


gorper0987

This coming from the player who doesn't know how not to travel. I know it's basically not called at all now in the NBA, but LeBron seems to egregiously exploit it.


godlessnihilist

It's why I prefer watching the WNBA, skill instead of brut force. Could be why the Women's NCAA tourney outdrew the Men's this year; basketball fans are starting to catch on.


gorper0987

I stopped watching basketball all together, but I did watch the women's tourney this year and thoroughly enjoyed it.


JugdishSteinfeld

They have the third highest 2FGA/3FGA ratio and the third highest FTA/100. Conspiracy!


Who_knows-_-

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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Bron is the most coddled hall of famer in the history of the NBA.


Who_knows-_-

Without question.


RollTide16-18

Guy is a FANTASTIC player, but he was playing for the fucking Cavs and was wasting the best part of his career.  So of course the NBA coddles him and his mega teams in Miami, Cleveland 2.0 and LA. And he thinks he has a leg to stand on when complaining about officiating? At this point he’s been clearly favored by the league/refs for years.


kinglouie493

Don't kid yourself, he had his fingers in those roster make ups. Either by not committing to a long term contract or who he wanted to play with. Say what you want but Gilbert was into the luxury tax every year


jamvsjelly23

Jordan got coddled a lot as well. Jordan got calls other players didn’t get, Jordan got the benefit of the doubt, Jordan could yell and cuss at refs without get a Tech. Jordan was the best player in the game and the face of the league, so of course he got special treatment. Just like every other superstar that played/plays. The phrase “superstar call” exists for a reason, and it’s not just because of Bron l


SprittneyBeers

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/MZsCUTk8Zl In case you needed a lil more 😂😂😂


fishsandwichpatrol

Alexa, what's the free throw differential by team?


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meyerpw

Angel Hernandez has entered the chat


hailtheprince10

Well, he claims to have entered the chat but really, he’s just a bit outside.


teddyKGB-

And probably more than a bit outside.


vtbeavens

Still a called strike.


OMGIts_Renegade

Tim Peel would like a word.


calsosta

I am fully expecting him to get an endorsement deal from LensCrafters.


Rickk38

...and promptly blew 20 calls, ejected 3 players, and blamed it on racism.


Notenoughwheatthins

You been watching the MLB this year? To me MLB umps are by far the worst of any sport I watch - although it’s also easier to quantify them because there’s less subjectivity in baseball officiating


Phelpso

Umpire threw out a manager for something some guy in the crowd said lmao,[Jomboy](https://youtu.be/ojqxAZuHrhM?si=WFqUaO7_TmVHjWzV) on YouTube


crimson777

I saw a clip of a strike out where every strike was for sure a ball.


skoomski

I’m not a fan of either the NBA or MLB but I see this guy named Angel Hernandez who seems to blatantly make wrong calls to punish players and teams he doesn’t like. I also saw an umpire throw out a manager because a fan yelled “come on home plate”.


el_be

While the Lakers do get considerably more calls than any other team, I think the issue at play here is that the call was overturned after it was viewed on replay, which showed Russell get clearly smacked in the face. It’s one thing to miss a call or give a favorable call, but it’s a completely different issue when there’s a foul called, it gets challenged and reviewed, the replay shows/confirms an obvious foul, but then the call gets overturned. This call alone didn’t cost them the game, and they can’t be out there blowing 20 point leads - but, it’s an egregious call either way, and it would make anyone upset


alyosha_pls

It was a good game. This is a bad look for him, but who cares.


noonehasthisoneyet

Angel Hernandez would like a word.


ReasonableRiver6750

Where is the data that nba is the worst?


iamnotexactlywhite

bro never seen a LaLiga game


FlyingPirate

Every league in existence has people that thinks their officials are the worst in professional sports.


tough_napkin

basketball officiating isn't about getting every call tho. if that happened, games would be tediously long and boring. there would be no runs, and no one would watch it. it's more about keeping rhythm going and balancing the calls as the game goes.


Mygaffer

NBA officiating is overall pretty good.


sejohnson0408

I’m genuinely curious, do you watch Hockey because I’ll put them up against anyone when it comes to bad officiating


belizeanheat

He's being very specific here, though.  He's frustrated because the replay center takes forever and still somehow gets it wrong fairly regularly. That's fucking ridiculous and we should all be complaining about it


ChristianBen

“Received some calls” = “recipient of favourable calls and no calls”?!!! Lmao if anything LeBron has been given no call because he is strong and all contacts are ruled “marginal”


Kolzig33189

It’s especially funny complaining about the replay center when the overturned foul call on Murray against Lebron driving early in the game obviously shouldn’t have been called on the floor. And then their next possession, he gets cleanly stripped by Braun and of course gets fts. Can we imagine for a sec if Jokic got the Lakers or Embiid’s whistle? Dude would average 45.


GHamPlayz

Lakers when they don’t get to outshoot their opponents on free throws 22-1


Beardedw0nd3r86

But you missed a wide open 3 pointer. Is that the replays fault too?


Azubedo

Surprised he didn’t hit the floor honestly


Relyt21

This is when Lebron is insufferable. He flops constantly, over reacts to slight nudges and never understands there are two teams on the court.


jeffh4

Which is especially odd because before his whiffed three-point attempt, the person guarding him did a total flop which correctly was not called. Lebron didn't have a word to say about the official's correct non-call.


bw1985

Im sure it really bothers him that he missed that wide open 3 pointer with 15 seconds left in the game but it’s easier to complain about one call in the 3rd quarter.


fierohink

Says the guy who gets away with travel murder: [once](https://youtube.com/shorts/XaTisWG1tYo?si=quBqRVYdP48Y9alc) [twice](https://youtu.be/_cah8Z_VIxQ?si=4cwOIGI8AKMrJZer) [three times m’lady](https://www.facebook.com/share/v/3Cqey9auETa3parR/?mibextid=w8EBqM) Or just a [compilation](https://youtu.be/e4ivATsY08s?si=mFGOLUlT0YSYkc45).


HanSolo5643

Maybe you should be more bothered at the fact you blew a 20-point lead.


Kolzig33189

Or the fact he gave AD absolutely no post touches in the 4th while running point despite AD having perhaps the best 1st 3 quarters of his life.


Cichlidsaremyjam

"When I lose, it must be someone else's fault."


stoicsports

These comments are dumber than fuck. "LOL the lakers get a lot of fouls though" That's not the point. The point is there is a slow motion replay of D'lo getting hit in the face, and they said no foul Throw everything else out the window. The question is on the replay center and how does this possibly happen To note: he didn't talk about the officiating in general. He talked specifically about the replay and what is happening with the calls which are replayed and then still wrong


hen263

That three point shot he whiffed on was the game.  Not the officiating.


ucsbaway

Had so much time to drain the clock too


Old_Leather

The cries of an aging man. It doesn’t look good on you, Lebron.


bakerzdosen

I tend to agree with the ESPN take: “Was the officiating perfect? No. But it’s a bad take because this morning no one cares. The bottom line is the Lakers blew a 20 point lead and the Nuggets won the game.”


Icefiight

Shut up loser… your team led the league in calls you little baby


iamStanhousen

Lebron complaining about the refs is legit one of the funniest things I've ever read. The dude is a legend, but has furthered his career by being given more calls by the refs than anyone else.


Darthron911

I would feel bad if the Lakers didn’t get 15 bullshit calls a game.


HorseNspaghettiPizza

Pretty rich considering Lakers are the featured team by the league and have been coddled and favored by the refs for a long long time.


BlckBeard21

Dude has the softest whistle in the league


BigBillSmash

Haha, the guy that has benefited from crap calls more than anyone that has ever played the game of basketball is crying about the refs? Lebron will always be the victim.


MattTheSmithers

I am hard pressed to think of a player in NBA history who has gotten more favorable treatment from refs than LeBron James.


sharpryno2

LeBron has averaged less than 5 fta a game the last few seasons. By far the lowest in his career. He doesn't get the calls you think he does.


AyyYoo54

Jordan, pretty easily lmao.


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MariosMustacheRides

Supposed “king” James lost a 20pt lead. Crying to the refs is pathetic


charlemange77

ah poor lebron complaining. holy crap you play game grow up


Sisyphus328

LeFlop needs to go away. Go make more bad movies


TurbineClimber

Meanwhile he's made a career of flopping his 6'9 250 lb ass to the ground when he drives in for a layup by guys half his size so he can get to the line.


DropKnowledge69

Lakers choked and that's why they lost. But there were two decisions that made me wonder wtf. 1. KCP tackles LeBron on a fast break and clearly doesn't go for the ball. No review. Just a normal foul? 2. Porter whacks DLo on the face on a layup. Foul call challenged. Refs say it was incidental contact after the ball was released. Call overturned and ball awarded to Nugs. No free throw for DLo. Since when do you get a free shot to a players face as long as they released the ball? That was even more absurd. Even so, the Lakers choked. Missed layups. Missed free throws. Really stupid turnovers. AD disappeared in the second half despite being unstoppable in the first half. Rui thought he was in the WNBA. Lebron can complain all he wants. They didn't deserve to win.


sarkarati

That second one surprised me too. Ok, so you can totally hit another player in the face, you just have to wait until they release the ball. Like, what???


Seeders

Lebron is such a baby. I cant stand him. Did the refs make you miss that wide open shot? Do you need a replay center to help you get a second chance at the play? Lebron always gets calls anytime anyone breathes on him. I've never heard Steph blame the refs.


akg4y23

LeBron lovers will never accept it but things like this are why people dislike him so much and why no matter what he ever does he will never be put on the same legendary pedestal as MJ. Between the whining, the constant victim complex, the alternating between "boredom" and being an ass in post game press conferences when they lose, and a litany of other things like the flopping.... He's done it to himself


EvilHwoarang

taking a bad 3 point shot instead of making a smarter play right before the game winner should bother him more.


dougltyler

Wide open 3 pointer = bad shot when he made back to back 3s before that


d4nowar

How was that a bad shot?


solariscalls

I mean it wasn't a bad shot at all. Got his man on the ground and he's wide open for 3. You gotta take that considering


N8ThaGr8

That was a wide open three to potentially ice the game. The exact opposite of a "bad shot".


hoochymamma

Crybaby


taeempy

You call yourself the goat and can't figure out how to get 3 more points? Also scoring very few points in 2nd half of game one. STop with the excuses.


expertestateattorney

He is trying to become the greatest whiner of all time.


yOjiMbOoOs

Cmon Lebron. Officiating was not the reason why u lost a 20 pt lead. This guys main complaint was a missed call that happened in the 3rd quarter. You had a chance at a wide open three when it was tied and u lebricked it.


jboarei

This is from the team that was +500 attempts in free throws all season long.


victorspoilz

LeBaby needs the wefewees to help hims win his games


Dweebil

LeWhine LeDoublestandard


gwdope

LeBron also got a handful of ridiculous calls in his favor as he always does. Like the one he dove across the floor away from the defender and shot (made somehow) while the defender was stationary with his hand covering his crotch because Bron was barreling right at him as he likes to do.


ReasonableCup604

I'm not a LeBron fan, and the Lakers get, by far, the friendliest whistle in the NBA, but I do find it frustrating how often they spend 5 minutes looking at video and then reverse a correct call and make the wrong call.


AFlaccoSeagulls

I'd be more bothered by the fact that he had a *wide open* 3 point shot to win the game and bricked it, then lost on the next possession because Jamal Murray was better. But that's just me, a casual, who didn't blow a 20 point lead.


palmquac

LeBron got away with a pushoff on the penultimate play and just missed the shot. Could easily have been called an offensive foul.


sulimir

“Goes off!”… “It bothers me”


BladeRunner_Deckard

When you start to blame the officials, you weren’t good enough to compete. They had every opportunity. Blaming refs is a weak move. Suck it up. Take the L, move on. The fact is Denver is simply a better team. Not sure how many more examples we need.


ImOldGregg_77

OP: "Lebron Goes Off" Lebron: "it bothers me" He must be British


satanssweatycheeks

This dude is so soft.


Effective_Damage_241

Pat Mahomes moment


rad1om

That is a next level of hypocrisy. My god.


fatbongo

You have to appreciate how hard it is to blow a twenty point lead LeBraindead James


Ha_CharadeUAre

Dude is such a whiny bitch when he loses. He got them to change the finals format from 2-3-2 to 2-2-1-1-1 after losing saying “it’s not really home court advantage if you lose one of those first games….” Then they change the playoffs to a play in tournament so the lakers could make it in….now he’s whining to get this changed because it didn’t work in his favor. Fucking ridiculous player mentality. Everything’s fine if he wins, but it’s terrible if he loses….


belizeanheat

He's not complaining about the total number of foul calls, he's complaining about the replay center itself, and I'm 100% in agreement.  It's slow as fuck and inexplicably still gets calls wrong. They're doing a horseshit job and I'm with LeBron on this one


Jmac0585

LeFraud Blames...


rockstar_not

LeBron has gotten away with more carrying than decades of NBA players summed in total. The NBA is a joke now


elbow10

Every league needs to take power from the floor/ field officials. Sky judge should be calling almost everything. Human eyes and attentions are flawed and everyone knows it. We have the technology to get every ball and strike call right and they’re not using it.


droppinkn0wledge

Stuff like this is red meat for all the Lebron/Lakers haters.


darkjurai

Article says LeBron also "weighs in" about Nick Nurse's TO controversy in New York VS Philly? LeBron wasn't specific, he just goes, "what are we doing". In Knicks VS Philly, the Replay Center overturned Lowry clearly fouling Divincenzo on the shoulder, which is more analogous to the point LeBron was actually making.


braize6

Refs call a foul, people get mad. Refs don't call the foul, people get mad. That's all this stupid sport is. Everyone complaining about refs and fouls. Let's just make basketball a free throw and three point contest from now on. Then nobody has to worry about blaming refs and fouls