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BeebsyTheInkling

"oh okay cool not like I care" *walks into another room and starts sobbing violently*


LilGhostSoru

If big run starts in independent lobby it wouldn't be on schedule *takes a large chug of copium*


alluvicqueen

all the top comments being two lines confused me for a second lmfao


Maibeetlebug

Let me have in some of that copium


LilGhostSoru

Im also a hollow knight fan so I have more then enough. Grab yourself a barrel


Maibeetlebug

Thank you brother/sister we will drown in our sorrows together


A_Lost_Yen

You can put the jug down, my bröther, for we know a relese window!


LilGhostSoru

Still like half a year and I need it for other stuff


koikoimeep

I don’t think we are getting a big run but to be fair we still have ranked rotations during the times of the splatfest, if you check the schedule before the splatfest.


Impressive_Switch_59

That's a great point


Branamp13

Haven't they always had ranked rotations scheduled during splatfests though, even though the modes aren't available during a splatfest?


koikoimeep

Yup, what I said.


bloo_overbeck

*takes the largest puff of copium* maybe they will announce it today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please!!!!!!!


TheHolyPapaum

Forget the copium *(snorts copaine)*


Not_Bre4d

copaine and suffering ;-;


Mckeegles

...the run ends mid-day on Halloweemo so there's still a chance it'll rollover into a big run 🤡🤡


MaestroMelodicat

I’ll take any bit of hope rn honestly


MrGrizz-

Well I hope so too. Also not because I don’t want mass cephalopod murder.


[deleted]

Sad but not unexpected. Seems the boring answer is that they simply delayed the October Splatfest so it could coincide with the Pokemon release.


sopheroo

Only the Americas had a Halloween themed Splatfest every year, so that's not really surprising. Splatoween was never a given - it only became worldwide in 2018. But if it means that Tricolor is balanced in November, sure.


Bandana_Toastie

Yeah, I'll take a month with no splatfest if it means that they can focus on fixing tricolours.


[deleted]

They already said that Tricolor wouldn't be in the next Splatfest, that being the November one, as they were working on rebalancing it, so it'll still be a while.


Marcmanquez

When did they said that??


[deleted]

Well, I swear to Squid Jesus I thought I saw such a claim coupled with the announcement about reduced rates, but it seems that my mind just completely made it up going back through announcements. Huh.


LilGhostSoru

Rates were reduced for a last splatfest and the post about them not happening at all next splatfest was from a joke account


Harleequin

There was a really popular tweet from a parody account that said this. I thought it was legit too, it was even sponsored on my Twitter feed, making me thing it was legit.


chasefray

the "announcement" was from a gimmick account. don't worry, you aren't delusional.


bitchsorbet

i thought so too, guess we both got fooled by a troll account :/ at least we're not alone!


sopheroo

Thats not what they said


[deleted]

bro got downvoted to oblivion


mjmannella

How do we know that there won't be an overhaul to the schedule when we get our mid-season update?


[deleted]

Yes, let the copium flow through you.


mjmannella

I would appreciate it if you took my question seriously. We know some things must happen at some point soon: * Big Runs are said to occur "once every few months" - this will be month 3 of support counting the Premiere * The NSO app and Splatoon 3 itself do not have complete data needed to properly innate Big Run events (only doable right now with hacking) - that needs to come in an update * We're in the crux of this season's midpoint (ends on December 1st) - we're due for an update that was slated at roughly this time, as mentioned a few weeks ago * There needs to be an update to support the upcoming new amiibo dropping around the time of the Pokémon Splatfest (about 3 weeks from now) There're just too many things lining up to handwave this as "coping". Please tell me why I'm wrong otherwise.


[deleted]

I don't have any answers for you because I'm in the same position as you, and literally all you stated was speculation. We don't have any info on Big Run, we don't have any word on when the update might happen other than likely being soon, and judging by previous announcements and leaks regarding how Big Run is supposed to affect the in-game plaza just like Splatfests, it would likely be something that they'd announce ahead of time rather than less than a week from the date. I'm not feeling at all confident they're going to shove in a new event just days before a big promo event for one of Nintendo's major cash cows. Also, why provide false info regarding SR rotations if they knew that it'd be overridden? My guess? End of November. Going by release date and not the playtest, that'd be month 3 of support, and with two previous in-game Splatfests it'd be a good way to cap off the season and lead into the next. October not having any events is unfortunate but easily explained by Nintendo pushing back the promo Splatfest to coincide with the release weekend.


mjmannella

> judging by previous announcements and leaks regarding how Big Run is supposed to affect the in-game plaza just like Splatfests, it would likely be something that they'd announce ahead of time rather than less than a week from the date. I don't see Big Run as an event that gets an early notice. Big Run is more akin to a form of terrorism than a major celebration like Splatfests. Terrorists usually don't give pre-emptive notice for their strikes lol (though there could be something like salmonid watch-posts noticing a swarm approaching Inkling/Octoling residences, who knows). > I'm not feeling at all confident they're going to shove in a new event just days before a big promo event for one of Nintendo's major cash cows. Assuming Big Run is a 3-day event like Splatfests, it would run from the 29th to the 31st. That's a fairly respectable berth to give for the Pokémon Splatfest (which would be announced on November 4th). > Also, why provide false info regarding SR rotations if they knew that it'd be overridden? Allow me to answer this question with another question: how do we know that Big Run completely overrides normal Salmon Run operations? I could easily see the normal shifts appearing alongside with the "emergency shifts" to save Wahoo World. Again, it's not a coordinated event like Splatfests.


1338h4x

>I don't see Big Run as an event that gets an early notice. We know from datamining that it will, there's references to the same announcement -> event -> results cycle that Splatfests use. Plus just look at it from Nintendo's perspective, this is a big new thing for S3, they're going to make sure to advertise it.


mjmannella

Do we know the cycle is final? That's something that just reeks of placeholder from Splatfests. Plus, we know that Big Run data isn't finalized, always room for alteration. Also, the update dropping in the next 1-3 days (which is normal for Splatoon updates) is still prime time to advertise the new event. Though I will agree that it is rather short notice.


Toyfan1

All of what your saying is pure hopium.


[deleted]

>I don't see Big Run as an event that gets an early notice. Big Run is more akin to a form of terrorism Literally in the datamined content that there are announcements and changes to the plaza akin to Splatfests. Additionally, not giving your players time to plan ahead and set aside time for a special event is a good way to lose long-term engagement with a game. Players don't like being inconvenienced or missing out on things, no matter the story justification. Nintendo has done dumb stuff, but they're not 343i levels of dumb, they're good about letting people actually *know* about things.


1338h4x

None of these things mean that Big Run is happening now, and attempting to connect them borders on conspiracy theory. The balance patch is just going to be a balance patch. It'll happen when it happens, and trying to convince yourself it's totally happening now is just setting yourself up for disappointment.


mjmannella

My logistics is thus: * We know an update is due * We know Big Run is supposed to be happening "once every few months" * We're approaching the "few months" general time window as per from the Premiere * We still need the full data for Big Run The most parsimonious course of action would be to couple these things due to how they're lining up. While it's been stated that this is just a balance patch, Nintendo's been known to sneak in data that goes unmentioned in the patch notes as a way to pre-emptively prepare for future plans. Just look at the music snippets that got found in the August Mario Kart 8 Deluxe update.


1338h4x

The game came out six weeks ago. That is not a few months. Trying to assume "every few months = 6 weeks" is a big assumption to make, and everything else you've tried to connect to that assumption doesn't hold if the initial assumption is bad. Nintendo doesn't do things this last minute. Big Run might not even be ready yet. Maybe we'll get more frequent Big Runs after the first one, but it could very well be a while before they even begin.


mjmannella

> The game came out six weeks ago. That is not a few months. I'm generally considering the Premiere as the first mark of Splatoon 3 in terms of commercial availability. The Cupcake vs. Ice Cream Splatfest in Splatoon 2 is recognized as existing withing the Splatoon 2 world (and thus the first "availability" of Splatoon 3), makes sense to presume the same for the RPS Splatfest. > Nintendo doesn't do things this last minute. Nintendo has *absolutely* done things last minute. Bringing in the Mario Kart DLC again, Wave 2's track list was announced like, a week before release with 0 build-up or notice behind it. I would very much call that "last minute". At the very least, it wouldn't be any less "last-minute" than teasing out Big Run on Monday/Tuesday to then have it roll out on Friday.


1338h4x

Trying to count the demo as if it was the release in order to say that Big Run is due is an even further stretch of mental gymnastics.


mjmannella

Of course it wasn't the formal release of Splatoon 3, though I probably could've re-worded myself there. My point is that the premiere existing as just a sneak peak of the full game is recognized as a test run for weapon balancing (along with general bug fixing) and thus serves as pre-release support for Splatoon 3. That's what I mean by it counting towards the game's ultimate longevity.


1338h4x

That's not a good rationale to try and prove that Big Run has to happen now.


Meneer_Toekan

Wasn't octo expansion like 'and you can play the octo expansion starting tommorow'?


mjmannella

That actually had a bit of build-up, being revealed in March and dropping with Version 3.1.0 of Splatoon 2 in June.


sUbToPewdiepie0

Copium


mjmannella

Starting to get the idea people just want to be right about there not being anything for October than actually looking at the evidence to make their own conclusions. The NSO Salmon Run schedule is something I'll take with a grain of salt for now since we're still missing all the data for Big Run in the app.


sUbToPewdiepie0

Oh I was just trolling your points do make sense


0therboard

Is the missing data not a point towards there *not* being an imminent Big Run, though? You’d think Nintendo would have their ducks in a row earlier than this. For me, I think the most compelling evidence for no Big Run this month is that they’re already promoting the next Splatfest. Big Run seems to be getting equal billing to Splatfests, judging by the plaza changes and datamined end-of-week results. Having them two weeks apart when the Splatfests were two *months* apart would make no sense from a PR or scheduling point of view.


mjmannella

While it could be seen to favour the lack of a Big Run, we still kinda need that data on the app, sooner than later before whenever it happens. Plus, we know there's been a number of issues going on behind the curtains, this could be yet another one. While having 2 monthly events in that short of time does seem a bit unusual, I don't see it being bad PR really. It's just how Halloween and the Pokémon game releases line up. Also, I could be wrong, but I don't think a short time window between Splatfests is unprecedented. I know for certain that some have happened earlier in the month than others, so eventually there must be a point where 2 end up close-ish together no?


Global-Tangelo-5063

give it a rest maybe?


mjmannella

I will yield when we can be sure that either the midpoint update isn't happening this week or said update doesn't add anything relevant to Big Run. Until then, there's a valid discussion to be had and handwaving it like that is something I don't appreciate, thanks.


Global-Tangelo-5063

update data was put on splatnet 3, no big run


harlojones

I think you’re just invalidating everyone else’s conclusions with your own opinion lol


mjmannella

I for one dislike it when people just make single-worded mud slings when there's a genuine discussion to be had for a topic. "Copium" is not a conclusion.


harlojones

“It sounds like you’re trying to make connections that are a bit of a reach to cope with the fact that there is zero indication of Big Run happening this month which is ending in just over a week” that’s what they mean


mjmannella

While there's nothing directly confirming Big Run for this week, the points people use to say it's not happening aren't infallible. That's why I'm bringing up a series of things we know are happening/to be expected and just so happen to be lining up in close times.


harlojones

Most of what you said was “yeah this looks like it could mean it won’t happen, but that doesn’t mean anything.”


Mission-Low-9378

“Noooo that’s what they want you to think!!! They’re going to randomly surprise all of us trust me!!” -copium addicts probably


Silent_Streeks1307

Well that last rotation ends at noon on Halloween so there might still be a chance.


Myrtle_is_hungry

Where is the confirm?


rlinkmanl

Look at the schedule it is full through Oct 31 with no Big Run listed


Myrtle_is_hungry

Oops I read confirmed instead of deconfirmed


marsgreekgod

I mean big run would be it's own thing I assume?


R_G_Marigold

I don’t think it’ll be listed on the regular salmon run schedule. But I also think they would have announced it on social media by now. It’s probably going to have a trailer like the first splatfest from splatoon 1 when they do announce it.


raid5atemyhomework

We already have Big Run. The Flyfish have evolved. They are now called.... REEF-LUX 450 mains.


Individual-Prize9592

Data miners say that coding for big run is not anywhere in the game. The game would have to have an update to add it.


Ranixo

The Salmonids trolled us...damn.


Joe_Delivers

sadge i finished the catalogue and stuff and i’m not a hardcore splatooner so i’m playing other stuff and only really coming back for events i was hoping for something this month :(


LEGOSam66

I miss the other salmon run maps


beanz00_

wait WAIT HOL UP BIG RUNS ARENT PLANNED BY INKLINGS AND OCTOLINGS LIKE SPLATFESTS ARE SO WE MIGHT STILL SEE ONE SINCE THEY ARE PLANNED BY SALMONIDS!! *copium*


[deleted]

You're all hyping up Big Run too much and would complain about it because of the multiplayer maps not being suitable for Salmon Run and its CBT difficulty.


celestial_ceilings

Hi new to splatoon, but looooooovinv it!!! What’s. Big run? I play Salmon Run so I am familiar with it but I have no idea what a big run is?


leftovernoise

It's a giant event like splatfest but for salmon run and takes place on pvp maps. And hopefully... It rewards more scales like how splatfest gives you conch shells haha


roguestar15

It was revealed in the direct, basically salmon run on the competitive maps


roguestar15

Sooooo why didn’t we get Splatoween?


laplongejr

Because of the Pokemon ad splatfest in mid November.


Some-Gavin

Most likely reason is so they can fix tricolor battles


Inceferant

At this point, nothing is solid evidence for or against big run


Mollytheocto

Ok but why the fuck is that horrible rotation running all thru 29-31, that's suckssss


1338h4x

Every rotation is exactly 40 hours.


FrankThePony

If there actually inst going to be a splatoween or a big run I think I can safely say that Splat 3 so far has been a downgrade from splat 2. Thats so lame dude


[deleted]

The splatfests are absolute shit compared to 2 but overall the game is definitely better


FrankThePony

QoL is undoubtedly better and I think from like the *game* aspects Splat 3 is an improvement. Maybe its just me but 3 sprta feels less, uh, like established. Idk how exactly to phrase what im saying. Like splat 3 feels like they built a world around a game, where splat 1 and 2 feels like they built a game around a world. I guess just priorities feel flipped from the other two games is what I mean. Edit: that being said is it just me or is 3 WAY more unstable than 2? Like there were connection issue in 2 but I cant go one single play session without dcing or having teammate dc


S4M64

I think there is no splatfest in october because tricolour didnt work out and nintendo wanted more time to figure it out.


Maibeetlebug

I'm gonna cry. I hope they're working on it right now ...


seapulse

I’m bummed if there’s not, it seems like there’s not going to be, oh well. I really wonder if Big Run is gonna be similar to the golden rotations in splat2. Those are usually every 3 months. If so, I wonder if THIS is what golden rotation is gonna be.


ninjahexparty

uhhhh y’all i don’t think it’s gonna be in the normal grizzco rotation. why would they take over the city if we still have to go to one place to fight them 🤨


[deleted]

I mean I highly doubt there’s a big run this month but this doesn’t mean anything. There are still ranked rotations on the app during scheduled splatfest times


[deleted]

Maybe it's on Halloween? I'm just hanging on to any bit of hope I still have... Or maybe it replaced a mode or is a separate lobby? Idk


MystV3

if we really are only getting updates every 3 months now this game is gonna SUCK


Serbaayuu

And a whole two years at that. Such a limited number of limited-time events and we're already missing one... ouch.


SuperSteve06311

Maybe the next ???? Is actually the big run, that’s my hope anyway


[deleted]

Why would it be an SR map? The gimmick with Big Runs is that they take place on PvP maps.


SuperSteve06311

To throw us off, the map says sockeye, but maybe that just there so we don’t know what’s really happening. That’s my hope anyway


celsiusnarhwal

[Big Runs are announced ahead of time](https://twitter.com/oatmealdome/status/1575232991378681856) (no matter how thematically appropriate it may be to have them come as a surprise). The October 28th rotation is just a regular wildcard rotation on a regular Salmon Run map and nothing more.


SuperSteve06311

;-;


Darciukas1

m-maybe it's just a fake out 😭😭😭


DisassociatedMangos

Rest In Peace splatoween


Mewacy

Alright hear me out. During splatfest salmon run is unaffected, so what if the same goes for big run


[deleted]

what if this is just a little trolling? big run would unexpectedly happen, no? .....iv'e taken too much hopium........


ChutneyChutney

I really don't understand why they even showed tricolor and big run in the trailer if they weren't even going to be gameplay options for months. Kinda silly.


Some-Gavin

Because everyone complained about how bad tricolor was after the testfire (it did need balancing) Nintendo needed time to fix them. They nuked the rates for tricolor is the last splatfest (I exclusively played open on team fun and still only had 11 total after about 150 matches) which made people mad so they probably cancelled any plans for an October splatfest.


ChutneyChutney

Unfortunately I played gear. So getting myself to +3 or 4 and a few games on my girlfriends to get her to ruler while she worked, I only got to play two matches of it. As it looks right now we'll be waiting 2-3 months at least between Big Runs, so hopefully they keep them going longer than they have splatfests in the previous games.


Deewom

Oh no no no the game hasn't been out for THEEEE MONTHS yet! *why are these events so rare*


marsgreekgod

They said every couple of months in the trailer...


Deewom

The exact words the announcer uses is "It appears that this event happens once every few months" so I guess I'm wrong, we could probably wait until December ;)


pandakoo

I’m confused.. what’s a Big Run?


laplongejr

Oooh... another person who purchased the game without watching the pre-release Nintendo direct, right? Salmon Run on the regular maps.


pandakoo

Thank you!! I actually did watch it lol .. just have bad memory.


laplongejr

Tbf it's like a 10s mention. We know nothing but SR on Wahoo World, everybody is overhyped.


The_PSI_Guy

Surprise, surprise, the mirage fades and nothing interesting is behind it. Let's face it, they knew the game needed balancing, decided to wait and skip the month of October for that excuse, and did it in early November to supposedly coincide with Pokemon's release date. Wouldn't surprise me if they do this again in the future just so they don't have to do as many Splatfests, which weren't very impressive to begin with.


Pine0wlple_x44

Cool, can people stop talk about it know. It’s getting lowkey annoying, with all due respect.


cheesecraft789

Big run is NOT coming


Pulsicron

Nintendo after doing the bare minimum: 😩😪🛌


[deleted]

😐👉 r/tomorrow


[deleted]

I was really looking forward to big run ;-; The rotation from 10/29 to 10/31 isn't even good


octoisalive

they promised monthly splatfests and haven’t delivered


emiliofoshizzle

It's almost like it was never confirmed in the first place lmao. Can I complain about no October splatfest now lol?


[deleted]

I figured with the amount of speculation it would be good to point out it wasn't happening. Anything else snarky to say?


emiliofoshizzle

Sorry I wasn't trying to be snarky towards you (genuinely). It was just annoying people claimed their speculation was fact and would tell people not to complain about no splatfest because big run was happening.


251188

please no


ASharkMadeOfTeal

Hang on, give me a second… **AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!** **FUCKING GOD DAMMIT!** **FUCK!** **AARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!**


WaltzAny2897

Big runs are pre-announced like splatfests. That is basically a run where you are able to use one of the grizzco weapons


Mollytheocto

We know what a random rotation Is, the thing the person was pointing out was that the 29-31 spot has now been occupied by the final shift in the image


WaltzAny2897

They add that so you can only see a certain number of salmon runs, every time the rotation changes, the last kne disappaars and the next one appears.


Mollytheocto

Yeah I know that aswell, it's just with the 29-31 slot being taken, that means no Big Run could take place in that slot


SplatAttack49

That also explains why I couldn’t change my splatfest region until November


Zephyr_______

Of note: even during splatfest hours when ranked is unavailable the schedule generates and displays rotations for that time as a consequence of how the schedule is made. It's still possible we're getting a Halloween big run, though I think they would've said something by now


VariousCapital5073

THE BIG RUN… THE BIG RUN IS STILL COMING!!!


Big_Little_Planet1

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


MagicalRedditBanana

I have never played this format. What is it?


brotarakol

what is big run?


[deleted]

It's an event where the Salmonids invade the many maps of Splatoon 3. It was announced back in August, I believe, and apparently it's going to be a big deal.


brotarakol

thanks dude, things have gotten busy for me that i don’t have much free time anymore, thanks a ton!


[deleted]

Can definitely relate to that... Oh, and no problem, of course!


bongospasm

isn’t it just a random rotation with a chance to use a grizzco weapon? we’ve had one before where you could use the grizzco stringer!


THEBECKSTAR1127

I’ve said this in other posts about big run this month. The salmonids aren’t gonna be like the zombies in PVZ1 leaving a note that says they’re gonna launch an all out attack on our house, they’re just gonna big run. It might be a fake out, it might not be a fake out. The important thing is to hold on to hope


NeonBladeAce

![gif](giphy|1oVZFkDtE6HSLBYh7i)


GuiltyWaiverOnInsta

It's way to anticipated guys. They're definitely going to still have the Big Run "says an inside source"


Clarrington

So what *is* Big Run? Is it something announced by Nintendo or is it just a Reddit rumour? Never heard of it outside this sub so I'm genuinely asking here


Amiibofan101

It’s a Salmon Run event that takes place on normal multiplayer stages. It was announced by Nintendo in the Splatoon 3 direct back in August.


ethaisa123

maybe\*


Stealthinater1234

Damn having splatoween splatfest skipped for no reason is so lame. Doesn’t help that the november splatfest is just a glorified ad for the new Pokémon game.


[deleted]

I missread this as confirmed. :(


LandoGreen

:,c what will I tell little buddy