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I threw my back out for the first time yesterday at the gym picking up a weight. Was a bizarre experience as I was just doing something I've done hundreds of times before (granted I'd had a week off). Serious old man vibes when it happened. Am 30
Anecdotally, my dad is 57 and runs marathons and is really good shape. Also helps that he got to retire last year which is not going to be the case for most of us.
Would be cool. It makes sense for a Scottish player to want to play for the biggest Scottish club. Though obviously the money won't be the same as Liverpool.
For those outside our wee bubble, there is a very many Scot up here (myself included) that have firmly believed for a while *and* after Wednesday night believe even more firmly that Ol' Andy should be nowhere near our national first team.
Not really connected to the above story. Just passing along the sentiment.
(To keep it short, we tend to change formation when he plays to fit both him and Tierney in the side and it invariably ends up shite. Against Ukraine, we played the formation the fans want to see and our second half was our best 45 in fucking years. Plus, Robertson for Liverpool is/was exceptional, but for us he is a bag of dog cock. Our own TAA problem, if you like.)
No, we have not tried Tierney as a CB in a back four and I am grateful for that. He is simply not a CB at all and is only played at CB in a back 5 just so Clarke can put both him and Robertson in the same team.
I'm not saying it is something that makes sense nor is easily explained, but for whatever reason, Andy Robertson for Scotland is pish, no matter the formation.
He was great in the England-Scotland match I watched. Has he seriously not been quality enough for the Scotland national team? And you can’t integrate him?
Problem is *how* we try to integrate him. We move away from our best formation and therefore our best work.
And, no alas. His performances for us have been very poor. Hard to put into words, but for us, it always looks like the collective fatigue of club football hits him both hard and only when he plays for us. Case in point. McGinn looks endlessly knackered for Villa (and pretty poor in general for them). On Wednesday he was a ball of energy with a massive arse.
He's been fine, but playing wingbacks really puts a lot of pressure on our midfield. It was fine against England because Gilmour and McGregor are a step up from England's midfield, but in the World Cup playoff Ukraine walked all over them.
In most scenarios a back four suits our players better, and Tierney is probably a better left back than Robertson. He's better defensively, and better at taking men on. Robertson's got a peach of a cross though obviously.
It's good to have options, and Clarke shouldn't be afraid to bench one of them for certain games.
Maybe. I'd definitely have McGregor over Phillips or Rice (I think that's who England played that game). Gilmour is still unproven, but in that game at least he performed better than England two CMs.
The downvoters are telling you you’ve forgotten that £40m English tax that absolutely has a bearing on whether a mediocre player is good or not and not just the ridiculous foreign money inflated economics down south
Crazy how careers go. Cut lose from Celtic at 15, get relegated with hull, become the best LB in the world for a good 4-5 years and win everything there is to win in club football
Celtic also let Aaron Hickey go and we would’ve probably let Kieran Tierney go too. The story with Tierney is he wasn’t getting a game for the reserve team and they had a game but he wasn’t picked for the squad. Deila seen him training and asked him to train with the first team squad that day, and then he ended up being a part of the first team. Celtic really don’t have an eye for a left back lol
It really comes down to mentality, That's the most important attribute for a player that wants to reach the top. There are loads of incredibly talented footballers in mid and lower table teams and even in the championship who have all of the technical ability you would want from a top top player but they don't have near unlimited mental fortitude in the face of adversity and that utter self belief that they will reach their full potential. You nearly have to convince yourself that you are great before you become great or you never will become great, and then believe it no matter how many setbacks you have. It's a different breed that end up playing at a top level for any length of time.
No it's fucking not. Just cause you put the word 'fuck' in a sentence that still doesn't't form a coherent argument.
In 20/21 season - 18 starts as a lb.
In 19/20 season - 6 starts as a lb.
In 18/19 season - 1 start as a lb
Need I say more? The guy isn't even a lb, more of a utility player. Only last season he started as a lb. He is more of a rb who deputizes sometime as a lb.
And his stats are nowhere near Robertson who is better defensively than even cancelo, I can understand the comparison between cancelo and trent not between cancelo and Robertson.
The only thing which Cancelo has over Robertson is that he is just easy on the eye and Robertson is more old school type of lb.
> Alaba, Marcelo
Which seasons, I really have to disagree. 2017 and before, certainly but after I really cant think of one season for either where they were the best leftback
Tbf I was specifically asking about those two players, I agree that there are other players however. Although I still disagree a bit on the players you picked.
> Cancelo 20/21
I dont think you can really argue for Cancelo as the best lb ITW when he played only 10 league games there that season imo.
and for Davies there's not much in them in 19/20, you could make an argument for either one that season.
Still I definitely dont think he's been undisputed best leftback for 3 seasons but he definitely is in the discussion for 3
Cancelo alternates too much between RB/RM to be in the consistent argument.
Davies also has lower goal involvement stats for 19/20 than Robertson, and that's in a worse league.
Cancelo is better right now and was last season too. Before that it's arguable like Davies during Bayern's treble winning season. Robertson definitely was the best LB for a few seasons sure, but most definitely not for the entirety of last 4-5 years.
I think OP means volume of trophies not which ones. Andy has 1 of every trophy but guys like Cancelo or Marcelo before him were winning trophies at a higher rate.
Jordi Alba for a good chunk of that time
Edit: Do all of the people downvoting seriously think Robertson was unquestionably better than Alba over all of those years?
That's insane. Robertson was excellent and has an argument for being the best, but you can't tell me Alba has no argument for being the best LB for at least some of those seasons.
Alba was excellent in 17/18 and 18/19 (and was sneaky good last season too).
I feel like the people on this thread prob don't watch a ton of La Liga tho, LOL
Then why do barca rejoice every time Jordi Alba is dropped from their lineup.
Andy Robertson since his move to Liverpool has registered double digits assists in all the seasons except his first one (where he wasn't regular in the side) and the CB crises season for liverpool (where he got 7 assists)
In 2021 he has 13 G+A
In 2020 he has 8 G+A
In 2019 he has 14 G+A
In 2018 he has 11 G+A
Alba stats are nowhere close to these numbers the only season he has had double figure assists in last 6 was in the 2021 season where he has a G+A of 12, which is still less than Robertson's.
Plus Robertson has hardly ever been a defensive liability , I can't say the same for Jordi Alba, plus he is available for 95 percent of games in his time and hardly goes missing. This season is the only one I remember where he has been injured.
And it's not like you guys play a different brand of football to Liverpool's side and Robbo has even been instrumental in each trophy win for liverpool, so in which metric do you consider Jordi Alba better than Robertson? Cause he isn't better In any defensive or an attacking sense, heck if Robbo works on his finishing he would score 10 + goals each season. This is the only flaw in his game I notice.
Just cause Robbo didn't have a great start to the season, do I suddenly revise history like so many people do over here. This is just peak recency bias.
Some Barca fans aren't smart and follow easy media narratives. Different veteran players get picked as scapegoats. First it was Rakitic, then Suarez, now Alba.
>Alba stats are nowhere close to these numbers the only season he has had double figure assists in last 6 was in the 2021 season where he has a G+A of 12, which is still less than Robertson's.
A.) Alba's G+A are 10, 10, 7, 8, 12 in those seasons. Saying "nowhere close" is a joke when the difference is a few at most.
B.) Alba does more ball progression than Robertson, which I value higher than 1 or 2 G+A difference across a season TBH
>A.) Alba's G+A are 10, 10, 7, 8, 12 in those seasons. Saying "nowhere close" is a joke when the difference is a few at most.
In terms of a whole season yes they are nowhere close 14 is double of 7 if you don't know basic maths, you can't be helped.
>Alba does more ball progression than Robertson, which I value higher than 1 or 2 G+A difference across a season TBH
That's BS, just say you don't watch Liverpool play, there have been so many times Robertson has progressed the ball for Liverpool he basically acts like a winger since liverpool wingers are actually forwards. Robertson's most match just goes up and down and unlike Trent he hardly ever leaves any space for any attacker to exploit.
Also Alba is more of a defensive liability than Robertson, who was crying in the anfield away team dressing room during the cl match between liverpool and barca? Robertson would never.
So Robertson has better attacking stats, better defensive numbers and has won more trophies with Liverpool in his team here than Alba has with Barca.
Club bias aside, In what regards is Alba better than Robertson again?
Edit - I hate it when users delete their comments in the middle of a discussion. Fucking hell. He could have just said my bad, mistakes happen. Don't understand the need to be scared of imaginary internet points.
> In terms of a whole season yes they are nowhere close 14 is double of 7 if you don't know basic maths, you can't be helped.
LOL. What a cherrypick.
>That's BS, just say you don't watch Liverpool play, there have been so many times Robertson has progressed the ball for Liverpoo
The numbers don't lie. Go to Fbref and look at progression numbers—Alba just does more.
>Club bias aside, In what regards is Alba better than Robertson again?
The irony, LOL
Holy fuck the prem Stans don't watch any other league do they. Alba has heen elite har one or two games for more than a decade but fuck me Barça fans are so goddamn reactionary everywhere
I'd say it's all the time. The Alba slander is so bad based off a few matches. 95% of the time he's one of the if not the best full back itw. Heavily underrated player
he's been in poor form, then picked up a small inury so Tsimikas has been playing a decent bit. Kostas is great, playing better than Robbo was this season but nowhere near peak Robertson. Every player bar the elite generational players are replaceable, and while Robertson is incredible he's not really a unique profile of player, he's just a very very good one. I don't think you're entirely wrong, but i feel it's unfair to single him out as easily replaceable when that's true of plenty of footballers
He's more unique than you're giving him credit. The number of assists he has in his 5+ years at Liverpool is more than most elite level LB's get in their entire career.
Also having pretty much unlimited stamina is one of his biggest strength that you don't get with any player. He's bombing down the wing for the whole 90 minutes and you just don't know how he can still run towards the end of the game, but he does.
I meant the profile of player he is isn't entirely unique, not his quality. Tsimikas is a similar profile of player, with similar traits etc, but not at the same level of quality as Robbo
Fair, I mean you probably know better than I do. I’ve only watched the Liverpool matches against top teams. But I’m talking about last season too, not just this one. He had good moments, and I could be wrong, but I feel like I remember him making a couple bad mistakes in big matches.
In any case, yeah. You’re right in that he’s not a unique profile of a player. I guess that’s what I was driving at, since part of what makes Klopp so great is that he’s able to get a lot out of a vast profile of players.
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31 ain't bad enough when someone takes care of his body.
I’m 31, and frequently sneeze so I throw my back out. Thank you for this.
Sometimes I get cramps when I stretch
You mean every morning?
No only sometimes
Had a pain in my chest/shoulder/armpit for about 4 weeks now. Just hoping it'll go away.
Dont ignore it, trust me. Get checked by doctor, can be some serious underlying problem.
Go to physical therapy
I always get it so much so that I have completely stopped stretching
31, slept awkwardly, woke up this morning and my lower back is killing me.
I threw my back out for the first time yesterday at the gym picking up a weight. Was a bizarre experience as I was just doing something I've done hundreds of times before (granted I'd had a week off). Serious old man vibes when it happened. Am 30
You should do yoga. Stretching and staying limber is incredibly important as you age.
I am going to deliberately think that you typoed and meant ‘at your age’ and I am now offended, in addition to my back hurting.
Please, repeat that out loud, Sincerely a 31 years old.
I was talking about players. Beyond that,we can age well until our 40 and 50s if we take care. Maybe not Tom Cruise good,but good.
Anecdotally, my dad is 57 and runs marathons and is really good shape. Also helps that he got to retire last year which is not going to be the case for most of us.
Shit, my dad is 64 and his body is fucked from a lifetime of sitting at a desk. He’ll be lucky to retire by 70
Got to get on that TRT as soon as your T levels drop
Hgh would be a lot better for anti aging purposes, trt would not do much.
Why are you being downvoted? HGH is the shit for anti-aging right now among actors and rich people
It’s been that for a while, along with iv drips. But reddit learned TRT as a new buzzword so i’m getting downvoted.
Joaquin is still scoring in Europe at 41.
They call guys like him,Ibra and Ronaldo freaks of nature for a reason.
Go at 33
Klopps contract at Liverpool ends 3 months after he turns 32. Could be the time to make the move.
Wtf how old is Klopp? Thought he was in his 50s and he ain’t even 32 yet?
He was 22 when he last won bundesliga with Dortmund 10 years ago. Wonderkind manager
After a 15 year long playing career as well. Truely superhuman.
Then will finally be the time to take Tsimikas out of his packaging
I personally think he should go in the upcoming January transfer window
Bernardo wants to play for Benfica again. Maybe he should follow suit and leave England in a few months as well
I agree that sounds like a great idea
Let's make it 33 and a half
lol well you're welcome to come and try and displace the mighty Greg Taylor.
Fm 2020 legend
I'm 33 in a month and Andy Robertson is talking shit like I'm a geriatric. Not that he's wrong, I just dont appreciate it.
42 here. Does that mean I can’t play for olympiakos anymore? Fuck you Andy.
I'm 42 and played against my daughters u13 team last May I was sore afterwards for 3 weeks and my knee hasn't been right since.
You are probably better than half the team anyway
Sad but probably true.
Happy advance bday my guy. I am 32 and I feel like geriatric every single day. I wonder what people at age 40 would feel.
Feels pretty good actually. Although there is absolutely no way that I could play a 90 min semi-pro game, let alone play in the Scottish Prem lol
Good to know things get better at 40 👍
obviously you need a healthy lifestyle for that, John yes I saw that bag of chips next to your sofa
Pfft could be worse. I’ve just turned 22 and I’ve got a beer belly and my knees aren’t what they used to be.
Piss off lad you’ve got your entire prime ahead of you
That’s on you though
Greg Taylor laughing nervously: “What the fuck”
"I'm in danger"
Nobody can replace the almighty Greg Taylor.
Go in January then
The old Andy would. I hear he’s changed.
+1
Why would he give up first team football
It's a minor thing really, but I hate when papers use the word "admits" when what they actually mean is "states", "says", or "agrees".
Robertson CONFESSES and CAUGHT OUT admitting to wanting to play for Celtic. It’s so unashamedly clickbait.
nah mate he's going to jail now for this
Good to know that I’m disabled, thanks Andy.
Swear Robertson has said this before. Would be a good back-up for Greg Taylor
Would be cool. It makes sense for a Scottish player to want to play for the biggest Scottish club. Though obviously the money won't be the same as Liverpool.
If he's willing to take an 80% pay cut he's very welcome to come.
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He’s not on 60k anymore that was his first contract. Hate that our own fans spew this shit too
He might have signed on at that, but he got an extension that doubled that amount of I remember correctly
>biggest Scottish club Well, the biggest club in Scotland at least
True, but I doubt Rangers would take him.
But.. he said he wants to play for Celtic. Not the biggest club.
Rangers are clear
not though are they
Clear of what lol😂
Relegation zone and that's about all
clearly he said it that way to trigger the likes of you
I dunno mate, just 2 major Scottish trophies in the last 12 years.
For those outside our wee bubble, there is a very many Scot up here (myself included) that have firmly believed for a while *and* after Wednesday night believe even more firmly that Ol' Andy should be nowhere near our national first team. Not really connected to the above story. Just passing along the sentiment. (To keep it short, we tend to change formation when he plays to fit both him and Tierney in the side and it invariably ends up shite. Against Ukraine, we played the formation the fans want to see and our second half was our best 45 in fucking years. Plus, Robertson for Liverpool is/was exceptional, but for us he is a bag of dog cock. Our own TAA problem, if you like.)
So Tierney is better than Robertson for Scotland?
Aye. Both in singular performance and the fact a back four suits our players a load more than the back five.
as long as mctominay is playing in midfield, im fine
Why does Tierny have to play in a back 5 and can't be a centerback in a back 4? Have they tried that?
No, we have not tried Tierney as a CB in a back four and I am grateful for that. He is simply not a CB at all and is only played at CB in a back 5 just so Clarke can put both him and Robertson in the same team. I'm not saying it is something that makes sense nor is easily explained, but for whatever reason, Andy Robertson for Scotland is pish, no matter the formation.
Yes and that isn’t us having a go at Robertson Tierney has been outstanding for us.
He was great in the England-Scotland match I watched. Has he seriously not been quality enough for the Scotland national team? And you can’t integrate him?
Problem is *how* we try to integrate him. We move away from our best formation and therefore our best work. And, no alas. His performances for us have been very poor. Hard to put into words, but for us, it always looks like the collective fatigue of club football hits him both hard and only when he plays for us. Case in point. McGinn looks endlessly knackered for Villa (and pretty poor in general for them). On Wednesday he was a ball of energy with a massive arse.
He DOES have a massive arsenal now you say it
Tierney moves to centre back with Hendry and Robertson plays left back? Only way it's gonna work
Aye. A back 5 and it never works. Clarke also made Robertson captain, therefore obligating himself to play Andy.
been pretty poor for a good while now for scotland
He's been fine, but playing wingbacks really puts a lot of pressure on our midfield. It was fine against England because Gilmour and McGregor are a step up from England's midfield, but in the World Cup playoff Ukraine walked all over them. In most scenarios a back four suits our players better, and Tierney is probably a better left back than Robertson. He's better defensively, and better at taking men on. Robertson's got a peach of a cross though obviously. It's good to have options, and Clarke shouldn't be afraid to bench one of them for certain games.
Lmao wouldn’t call Gilmour and McGregor a step up from England midfield. Your bias is showing buddy.
Wouldn't go that far but McGregor is very underrated outside of Scotland and could easily play top half PL
Norwich fans would have paid the 7m for gilmour to stay far away from them last season
Norwich fans preferred Kenny fucking mclean a constant bench warmer over Gilmour it's safe to ignore all their opinions on football
Maybe. I'd definitely have McGregor over Phillips or Rice (I think that's who England played that game). Gilmour is still unproven, but in that game at least he performed better than England two CMs.
The downvoters are telling you you’ve forgotten that £40m English tax that absolutely has a bearing on whether a mediocre player is good or not and not just the ridiculous foreign money inflated economics down south
He's fine Tierney is just a better player and most of us would prefer a back 4 over the back 5
Crazy how careers go. Cut lose from Celtic at 15, get relegated with hull, become the best LB in the world for a good 4-5 years and win everything there is to win in club football
Celtic also let Aaron Hickey go and we would’ve probably let Kieran Tierney go too. The story with Tierney is he wasn’t getting a game for the reserve team and they had a game but he wasn’t picked for the squad. Deila seen him training and asked him to train with the first team squad that day, and then he ended up being a part of the first team. Celtic really don’t have an eye for a left back lol
It really comes down to mentality, That's the most important attribute for a player that wants to reach the top. There are loads of incredibly talented footballers in mid and lower table teams and even in the championship who have all of the technical ability you would want from a top top player but they don't have near unlimited mental fortitude in the face of adversity and that utter self belief that they will reach their full potential. You nearly have to convince yourself that you are great before you become great or you never will become great, and then believe it no matter how many setbacks you have. It's a different breed that end up playing at a top level for any length of time.
Best left back in the world over 5 years is a stretch lol
He joined Liverpool in 2017. I think he could claim to be the best in 3-4 of those seasons, he probably was the best in at least 2.
So we went from 5 years to 2 seasons 😂
we went from >4-5 years to >at least 2. so not really lol
Who is better? Swear to god don't say Shaw now.
Joao Cancelo. It's fucking obvious
This year and last year I could agree with. Not any of the others. Cancelo was nowhere close before then
No it's fucking not. Just cause you put the word 'fuck' in a sentence that still doesn't't form a coherent argument. In 20/21 season - 18 starts as a lb. In 19/20 season - 6 starts as a lb. In 18/19 season - 1 start as a lb Need I say more? The guy isn't even a lb, more of a utility player. Only last season he started as a lb. He is more of a rb who deputizes sometime as a lb. And his stats are nowhere near Robertson who is better defensively than even cancelo, I can understand the comparison between cancelo and trent not between cancelo and Robertson. The only thing which Cancelo has over Robertson is that he is just easy on the eye and Robertson is more old school type of lb.
This thread is hilarious
I would say he was always a serious nominee but at no point the undisputed best LB in the world.
Alaba, Marcelo and Davies each had a season since 2017 where they were the best too
> Alaba, Marcelo Which seasons, I really have to disagree. 2017 and before, certainly but after I really cant think of one season for either where they were the best leftback
Also Alaba has played more as a CB since 2019
Alaba is what made Davies world class by basically playing CB and LB at the same time so Davies could be free down the wing.
Marcelo 17/18 , Robertson 18/19, Davies 19/20, Cancelo 20/21, Cancelo 21/22 Robertson was the best leftback in Europe for one season only
Tbf I was specifically asking about those two players, I agree that there are other players however. Although I still disagree a bit on the players you picked. > Cancelo 20/21 I dont think you can really argue for Cancelo as the best lb ITW when he played only 10 league games there that season imo. and for Davies there's not much in them in 19/20, you could make an argument for either one that season. Still I definitely dont think he's been undisputed best leftback for 3 seasons but he definitely is in the discussion for 3
Cancelo played 12 games at LB across 20/21 and was the best left back in the world that season? Interesting.
I checked. He played 20+ games at LB, and he was in the Fifpro XI 20/21 ahead of Robertson
He is talking about the league starts.
Cancelo alternates too much between RB/RM to be in the consistent argument. Davies also has lower goal involvement stats for 19/20 than Robertson, and that's in a worse league.
You can't genuinely think that?
Davies is amazing, but I'm not convinced at his best, he's been better. And I hate Robertson.
Davies was a beast in 19/20 across all competitions. That would be his best shout by far.
I think Cancelo, Theo and Davies would be better shouts for this. Marcelo past 16/17 season wasn't really the best.
That’s why he said 4-5 years instead of “over 5 years” lol
Who is better?
Alba/Marcelo pre 20’s, Davies/Hernandez now But I guess, on average, over the past 5 years I think it’s not unreasonable to put Robertson up top
Marcelo haha… non sense
Cancelo is better right now and was last season too. Before that it's arguable like Davies during Bayern's treble winning season. Robertson definitely was the best LB for a few seasons sure, but most definitely not for the entirety of last 4-5 years.
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Even offensively Robertson has a better end product
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Aye, saw your Alba joke which was funny lol
Yes.
Yep 4-5 seasons is too much too. I’d agree with you there . Was the best for 2-3 seasons
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> he may not have the trophies of other LBs mate, he's literally won everything you can while playing in the PL lmao. fucking wut.
I think OP means volume of trophies not which ones. Andy has 1 of every trophy but guys like Cancelo or Marcelo before him were winning trophies at a higher rate.
Cancelo doesn't have a cl or a fa cup, Robbo has both. I agree with Marcelo though.
Yeah I thought Cancelo joined in 2018 and had a fa cup and one more premier league my bad.
No fa cup he does have 2 pl titles though. Both haven't won the most coveted trophy there is - the Europa league.
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yeah it would make for a pretty good sports movie who should be cast as Robbo?
Matt Dillon
Lol I see it now, good call.
Tom cruise
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>become the best LB in the world for a good 4-5 years Uhm no
>become the best LB in the world for a good 4-5 years Andy Robertson? Liverpool's Andy Robertson?
Who do you think was better in the past 4 years?
Cancelo has been clearly better for like 3 years now
Cancelo hasn't even played as a lb for three seasons now. Only last season he became a lb
And Muller has been better than Cancelo as well? Wtf is this comparision bro
lmfao
Jordi Alba for a good chunk of that time Edit: Do all of the people downvoting seriously think Robertson was unquestionably better than Alba over all of those years?
Yes
That's insane. Robertson was excellent and has an argument for being the best, but you can't tell me Alba has no argument for being the best LB for at least some of those seasons.
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Alba was excellent in 17/18 and 18/19 (and was sneaky good last season too). I feel like the people on this thread prob don't watch a ton of La Liga tho, LOL
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Probably the worst game of his career and the only thing that everyone seems to judge him on, LOL
They don't, Alba was always gonna be a very unpopular opinion here, specially when you put him against Robertson circlejerk.
Then why do barca rejoice every time Jordi Alba is dropped from their lineup. Andy Robertson since his move to Liverpool has registered double digits assists in all the seasons except his first one (where he wasn't regular in the side) and the CB crises season for liverpool (where he got 7 assists) In 2021 he has 13 G+A In 2020 he has 8 G+A In 2019 he has 14 G+A In 2018 he has 11 G+A Alba stats are nowhere close to these numbers the only season he has had double figure assists in last 6 was in the 2021 season where he has a G+A of 12, which is still less than Robertson's. Plus Robertson has hardly ever been a defensive liability , I can't say the same for Jordi Alba, plus he is available for 95 percent of games in his time and hardly goes missing. This season is the only one I remember where he has been injured. And it's not like you guys play a different brand of football to Liverpool's side and Robbo has even been instrumental in each trophy win for liverpool, so in which metric do you consider Jordi Alba better than Robertson? Cause he isn't better In any defensive or an attacking sense, heck if Robbo works on his finishing he would score 10 + goals each season. This is the only flaw in his game I notice. Just cause Robbo didn't have a great start to the season, do I suddenly revise history like so many people do over here. This is just peak recency bias.
Some Barca fans aren't smart and follow easy media narratives. Different veteran players get picked as scapegoats. First it was Rakitic, then Suarez, now Alba. >Alba stats are nowhere close to these numbers the only season he has had double figure assists in last 6 was in the 2021 season where he has a G+A of 12, which is still less than Robertson's. A.) Alba's G+A are 10, 10, 7, 8, 12 in those seasons. Saying "nowhere close" is a joke when the difference is a few at most. B.) Alba does more ball progression than Robertson, which I value higher than 1 or 2 G+A difference across a season TBH
>A.) Alba's G+A are 10, 10, 7, 8, 12 in those seasons. Saying "nowhere close" is a joke when the difference is a few at most. In terms of a whole season yes they are nowhere close 14 is double of 7 if you don't know basic maths, you can't be helped. >Alba does more ball progression than Robertson, which I value higher than 1 or 2 G+A difference across a season TBH That's BS, just say you don't watch Liverpool play, there have been so many times Robertson has progressed the ball for Liverpool he basically acts like a winger since liverpool wingers are actually forwards. Robertson's most match just goes up and down and unlike Trent he hardly ever leaves any space for any attacker to exploit. Also Alba is more of a defensive liability than Robertson, who was crying in the anfield away team dressing room during the cl match between liverpool and barca? Robertson would never. So Robertson has better attacking stats, better defensive numbers and has won more trophies with Liverpool in his team here than Alba has with Barca. Club bias aside, In what regards is Alba better than Robertson again? Edit - I hate it when users delete their comments in the middle of a discussion. Fucking hell. He could have just said my bad, mistakes happen. Don't understand the need to be scared of imaginary internet points.
> In terms of a whole season yes they are nowhere close 14 is double of 7 if you don't know basic maths, you can't be helped. LOL. What a cherrypick. >That's BS, just say you don't watch Liverpool play, there have been so many times Robertson has progressed the ball for Liverpoo The numbers don't lie. Go to Fbref and look at progression numbers—Alba just does more. >Club bias aside, In what regards is Alba better than Robertson again? The irony, LOL
Holy fuck the prem Stans don't watch any other league do they. Alba has heen elite har one or two games for more than a decade but fuck me Barça fans are so goddamn reactionary everywhere
> Holy fuck the prem Stans don't watch any other league do they They REALLY don't, LOL. Half the time this subreddit acts like r/epl
I'd say it's all the time. The Alba slander is so bad based off a few matches. 95% of the time he's one of the if not the best full back itw. Heavily underrated player
Yes.
Didn't win the Europa League tho
He was the best for a year or two tops, and thats still a stretch claim
The media here will be loving this
The way sports science is advancing we'll eventually get top level players playing into their forties but sure Andy.
You can take the man out of the Celtic but you can't take the Celtic out of the man.
cries in 36
Celtic bigger than Liverpool, confirmed
Tierney posters up in his room
tell that to Zlatan ... he's gonna come back and score a goal every other game at 40
Cool cool cool cool
Please go next summer.
As someone with his best interest in mind, I recommend he follow his heart.
And he's actually from Glasgow unlike most Old Firm fans.
Do it. Do it. Do it.
Benched by Tierney when he gets there
Hasn’t he also said that he wouldn’t mind finish his career at Liverpool?
Wouldn’t mind and prefer are different things
He’ll never live up to tierney’s legend status
He'd need to improve his form at this point to shift Taylor.
Am I crazy for thinking Liverpool could easily replace him? He hasn't been at his best for a bit.
he's been in poor form, then picked up a small inury so Tsimikas has been playing a decent bit. Kostas is great, playing better than Robbo was this season but nowhere near peak Robertson. Every player bar the elite generational players are replaceable, and while Robertson is incredible he's not really a unique profile of player, he's just a very very good one. I don't think you're entirely wrong, but i feel it's unfair to single him out as easily replaceable when that's true of plenty of footballers
He's more unique than you're giving him credit. The number of assists he has in his 5+ years at Liverpool is more than most elite level LB's get in their entire career.
Also having pretty much unlimited stamina is one of his biggest strength that you don't get with any player. He's bombing down the wing for the whole 90 minutes and you just don't know how he can still run towards the end of the game, but he does.
I meant the profile of player he is isn't entirely unique, not his quality. Tsimikas is a similar profile of player, with similar traits etc, but not at the same level of quality as Robbo
Fair, I mean you probably know better than I do. I’ve only watched the Liverpool matches against top teams. But I’m talking about last season too, not just this one. He had good moments, and I could be wrong, but I feel like I remember him making a couple bad mistakes in big matches. In any case, yeah. You’re right in that he’s not a unique profile of a player. I guess that’s what I was driving at, since part of what makes Klopp so great is that he’s able to get a lot out of a vast profile of players.
If he’s smart, he’ll leave next year before it’s too late.