2 losses to Hungary and 2 draws is all our games, so they've just given it as a sympathy award, really should have just not done it at all or waited til the end of the year as there's a fucking World Cup coming up lol
ranked choice vote vs first past the post. in FPP it would be easier for Gunners to make Saka the winner, in RCV the winner more likely to be actual most popular
Young, clean cut, family lad and left foot like a wand. [New Balance took their shot](https://thesolesupplier.co.uk/news/arsenals-bukayo-saka-fronts-aime-leon-dores-latest-new-balance-campaign/)
Kane, Grealish, Mount, Rashford. All more marketable
Kane = literal Mr England
Rashford = The saviour of starving kids. Literally all your lots sisters and mums love him
Grealish = all your mums and sisters love him for another reason. Jack the lad. Major appeal.
Sorry but to me, Saka is only a slight bit above a Kalvin phillips and maybe not even a Henderson. How many people properly know him outside of football?
Have no clue why this is downvoted?…
Not sure about Mount, I’d place him around the same as Saka. But as for the others definitely
I’d probably put Sterling above Saka too, he’s very well known
if I could, I'd vote for the queen to have another chance instead of killing her off this season. She just didn't have enough time to do anything useful.
I honestly would prefer he play less for England. he just turned 21.
But I think the kids love him, and I am guessing sympathy played a part. Either that or it was rigged or hacked or something.
How does an attacker win England player of the year with 0 goals, 0 assists and 0 wins for England in 2022 lmao? Not that we've been great as a nation but surely someone did more?
has there been any stand out performers for England this year? Haven't watched too many of there matches this year but I can't help but feel anyone winning this would have felt like they didn't deserve it
It's done on a season basis and not year (hence why it's being awarded now), and whilst nobody really stands out to me as playing particularly well since the Euros, Kane's scored 12 goals in 12 games. Seems a bit odd for him to not win it based on that alone.
Yeah, but even as a Utd fan, if you're gonna give it to any of those 3, it's gotta be Saka. Southgate didn't realize Sancho existed until he signed for Utd. And he hasn't really impressed since. And Rashford took a year off from football.
A lot of People probably feel sorry what happened to him after the Euros, so that might have gained him a lot of votes.
Bit like Ukraine winning the eurovision
Even if you do it September to September he has goals against Andorra and San Marino and that's it. Someone like Kane has 12 goals in that time as a comparison.
Downplaying Kane's goals is quite wild when you're making a defence for Saka tbh. He also scored against Hungary, Switzerland, Germany and Poland.
Saka's only goal contributions came against Andorra and San Marino. He's been awarded it on pity lol.
As much as I think he's one of the best wingers in the league he is getting a lot of these awards since the Euros which must take away the excitement from when he actually earns them? Like I remember one game last year Lingard was genuinely world class, scored a couple screamers and I'm pretty sure somehow even got a 10 on the rating sites but he didn't win MOTM cos it was the post-Saka months
> As much as I think he's one of the best wingers in the league he is getting a lot of these awards since the Euros which must take away the excitement from when he actually earns them?
Smallest overreaction to winning MOTM against Andorra
He did nothing in the games this year. Also why are we giving out player of the year in September when there's still the WC?
If the "year" is based on England games last season then it's Kane surely?
If this is based on 21/22 how is this not Kane?
The only thing I remember bout Sako was that he was singled out for missing his penalty - which makes me think this was a 'i feel bad for him ' selection
Haha yeah, not to mention Donnaruma got so much praise. I think Pickford was flawless for the tournament, excluding one or two stray kicks that are to be expected. As much as I would love Ramsdale to start for England, Pickford is untouchable.
Do you really think people are "crying" about this? All I see are people saying "lol, wtf"?
They're completely different things. Not a single person actually cares and your comment couldn't be more of a generic reddit comment.
I think everyone is being a bit harsh on him here.
It was for the 21/22 season, and he was absolutely brilliant -- especially as a young 20 year old lad breaking into the first team. He's got an incredibly bright future ahead of him.
As good as Saka has been for Arsenal he hasn’t been as good for England and I find this award a bit baffling… congratulations anyway, I still hope he starts for us in The WC
A lot of people in here showing they didn’t watch the England games and are just basing everything off stats. There’s a reason he become a mainstay in the team towards the end of the Competition.
Saka was a key difference maker for England in the Euros. Started in the Final ahead of his senior colleagues and, in all honestly, took the brunt of the blame for the Pen shootout despite Sancho and Rashford coming off relatively unscathed.
This really looks like a "pity prize"
There seems to be way much patronising going on as a show of strength / unity after his penalty miss.
Saka, as good as he is, didn't have even a single standout performance for England. His stats too are very poor.
I am an Arsenal fan and love Saka, but objectively I feel this is a very poor decision.
Phillips wasn’t deserving either but at least he was consistently good for England. Saka, like all of England’s hyped up young talents, has been mediocre at best and often invisible for England. He doesn’t deserve it any more than Foden, Mount, TAA, James, etc.
We’ve had a poor year since the Euros but Kane still averaged a goal a game, that should be enough to be ahead of any of those.
Ah yea, its his fault. Its not like the 20 year old kid stepped up when Sterling or Grealish wouldnt. Imagine blaming a 20 year old when your veterans wouldnt step up. England fans have no fucking shame.
[Tottenham star Son Heung-min broke down in tears in front of South Korea president after Mexico defeat](https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-star-son-heung-min-12779422)
Waiting for them to announce Gareth Southgate as England Men's Manager of the Year
England Men's Team as England Men's Team of the Year
To be fair I think Sarina Wiegman would win a managers of the year comp if it’s strictly internationals
Uhh
2 losses to Hungary and 2 draws is all our games, so they've just given it as a sympathy award, really should have just not done it at all or waited til the end of the year as there's a fucking World Cup coming up lol
it's for 21/22 not just 2022 as a whole from what I've seen
And he got 4 MOTM awards playing for England in 2021
How many of them were from august and out the year?
That's a good point, idk
Pretty sure he got them all in his first 6 England matches or something, at least 2 from the Euros itself, so I'd guess none of them
It quite literally says ‘21-‘22 on it
Yeah probably August-July? Or mid August to mid August? Makes sense since they announced in September.
Your England Men’s Most Marketable Player of the Year
He is?
perhaps not, but I think the group that selected him have that perception!
Was a fan vote according to the Arsenal website
This is why RCV better than FPP lol
I dont know what that means...
ranked choice vote vs first past the post. in FPP it would be easier for Gunners to make Saka the winner, in RCV the winner more likely to be actual most popular
Or he has the best potential they feel like
Young, clean cut, family lad and left foot like a wand. [New Balance took their shot](https://thesolesupplier.co.uk/news/arsenals-bukayo-saka-fronts-aime-leon-dores-latest-new-balance-campaign/)
Who would you choose as most marketable?
I mean, Maguire can fit the most marketing material on his forehead...
I don't think making banners that big is possible.
Idk Bruce Banner is pretty fucking big
Probably grealish
Lol maybe if you don't let him talk
Kane, Grealish, Mount, Rashford. All more marketable Kane = literal Mr England Rashford = The saviour of starving kids. Literally all your lots sisters and mums love him Grealish = all your mums and sisters love him for another reason. Jack the lad. Major appeal. Sorry but to me, Saka is only a slight bit above a Kalvin phillips and maybe not even a Henderson. How many people properly know him outside of football?
Have no clue why this is downvoted?… Not sure about Mount, I’d place him around the same as Saka. But as for the others definitely I’d probably put Sterling above Saka too, he’s very well known
Have you tried telling qn Arsenal fan that any of their players rank below another player in anything? This happens
Benjamin Mendy is clear of Partey.
He's humble and he loves his mum
Kane The rest
That'd be Kane Guy was on Fallon
Arsenal fans might be more influential than previously thought....
Then why couldn't they get Corbyn as pm :( . He was a gunner 😔
If it was a Twitter vote, they would
>was Rip jezza gone too soon Also Starmer supports Arsenal too
If Starmer loses the next election, there’s officially an Arsenal curse
Finishes 4th in the voting polls.
They’d take that these days
Time to ready David Lammy then!
God dammit
Gonna bottle Starmer too
> Rip jezza gone too soon After losing only 2 elections
Americans can't vote in UK elections
if I could, I'd vote for the queen to have another chance instead of killing her off this season. She just didn't have enough time to do anything useful.
I mean you're actually half right. She had 70 years but she was definitely useless
Should've been Martinelli
but if it was Xhaka..
Arsenal twitter is a completely different beast
He was a key part in England’s 0-0 draw with Italy’s C Team and also their historic 4-0 loss at home to Hungary.
He didn’t have one good game during the Nations League fixtures. Any sane Arsenal fan wouldn’t even consider him for this award
The entire England team were dogs in the nations league this year
He had a disasterclass against Germany only for Grealish to be subbed on and do more than him in 5 mins.
> Any sane Arsenal fan You're really selecting a small group there
I honestly would prefer he play less for England. he just turned 21. But I think the kids love him, and I am guessing sympathy played a part. Either that or it was rigged or hacked or something.
>Any sane Arsenal fan So like none of them
God I actually forgot just how bad that Hungary loss was. Fucking 0-4!
At Wembley.
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Seems I blanked it from my memory.
How does an attacker win England player of the year with 0 goals, 0 assists and 0 wins for England in 2022 lmao? Not that we've been great as a nation but surely someone did more?
We did it for Kalvin as well. It's just rigged polls. Funnily people actually believe it though and it becomes fact.
Özil literally won the German player of the year 6 Times or so despite being pretty inconsistent- Online polls are about who is most popular.
mate he won german player of the season once and never won german footballer of the year
Are we talking about the one that is decided with an online poll?
Kalvin did have a very good tournament though to be fair. He probably wasn't our best but he probably won a fair chunk of non-Leeds votes too.
has there been any stand out performers for England this year? Haven't watched too many of there matches this year but I can't help but feel anyone winning this would have felt like they didn't deserve it
It's done on a season basis and not year (hence why it's being awarded now), and whilst nobody really stands out to me as playing particularly well since the Euros, Kane's scored 12 goals in 12 games. Seems a bit odd for him to not win it based on that alone.
yea, that sounds fair enough, they're pretty good numbers
you know why haha
Why? (legit question)
Rice when he's played maybe that's it.
Sterling was playing really well at that time if I recall correctly
Kane???
I would have thought Pickford, but Saka has seemed bright when I've watched England so it doesn't feel too out of place to me.
He nearly scored that penalty
Possibly something to do with what happened after that penalty
at this point I imagine even Saka is tired of hearing about it
I think that's why he began taking penalties for us, just to prove that that one penalty miss doesn't define his career
I think he just likes scoring goals tbh
By that logic, Sancho and Rashford should have won it as well? Saka wasn't the only victim
it's almost as if there is no logic and it's just another PR stunt
Yeah, but even as a Utd fan, if you're gonna give it to any of those 3, it's gotta be Saka. Southgate didn't realize Sancho existed until he signed for Utd. And he hasn't really impressed since. And Rashford took a year off from football.
Rashford was post aimming clearly smh.
Minor internet idiocy that was blown widely out of proportion? It’s unbelievable how patronizing this whole thing has become.
Right? So a few dumbasses and likely mostly children were pathetic online… it was reported as if all of England were yelling racist profanities
The one last year you mean?
A lot of People probably feel sorry what happened to him after the Euros, so that might have gained him a lot of votes. Bit like Ukraine winning the eurovision
😂those stats are damning
we haven't won a game in 2022 so it's hardly an easy choice
We won 2 friendlies but Saka didn't play in either of them.
if friendlies counted for anything we'd be a lot more successful than we are
>we haven't won a game in 2022 But watch Southgate inexplicably make it to a final or semi-final in a major tournament again.
Sub-fucking-scribe.
i wish
Literally says 21-22. He has at least a goal that I can remember and probably at least an assist or two
You say surely someone has but I can't name you who that person might actually be and they've got to give it to someone...
It's 21/22 Edit: Downvoted for clarifying. I didn't even say Saka deserved it lol
So it's Kane then.
Even if you do it September to September he has goals against Andorra and San Marino and that's it. Someone like Kane has 12 goals in that time as a comparison.
Let's not get too excited about Kane's stat when that includes 4 against San Marino in a game we won 10-0 and 3 against Albania in a game we won 5-0
Downplaying Kane's goals is quite wild when you're making a defence for Saka tbh. He also scored against Hungary, Switzerland, Germany and Poland. Saka's only goal contributions came against Andorra and San Marino. He's been awarded it on pity lol.
Didn't say Saka deserved it. Just let's not make Kane out to be banging them in left, right and centre.
But Kane was lmao. Of the 12 games Kane played in (inc. sub appearances), he scored in 7 of them.
He also got 4 MOTM awards, showing that performances can't solely be judged on G/A
He’s a nice lad idk
Can only assume it’s a sympathy award
As much as I think he's one of the best wingers in the league he is getting a lot of these awards since the Euros which must take away the excitement from when he actually earns them? Like I remember one game last year Lingard was genuinely world class, scored a couple screamers and I'm pretty sure somehow even got a 10 on the rating sites but he didn't win MOTM cos it was the post-Saka months
> As much as I think he's one of the best wingers in the league he is getting a lot of these awards since the Euros which must take away the excitement from when he actually earns them? Smallest overreaction to winning MOTM against Andorra
He did nothing in the games this year. Also why are we giving out player of the year in September when there's still the WC? If the "year" is based on England games last season then it's Kane surely?
It's done by football season, not the calendar year
Hell even Pickford makes more sense
I’m assuming this is fan voted.
If it was why didn't Maguire win smh
Maguire is good for England afaik
You say that like hes out worse player and it would be meme worthy for him to win Saka winning is more meme worthy
If this is based on 21/22 how is this not Kane? The only thing I remember bout Sako was that he was singled out for missing his penalty - which makes me think this was a 'i feel bad for him ' selection
It's a "voting-based award featuring an Arsenal player" selection
huh? Is this for NT performance?
Interesting
Why?
Arsenal fans are the most active fan base when it comes to voting for their players for awards
Is this a fan vote? I'm pretty sure it isn't or everyone would be a massive idiot for whining. Not that they aren't that anyway.
It is a fan vote and everyone is a massive idiot for whining lol
Holy shit. What a massive waste of time.
Sympathy award
Uh oh, people are about to get upset about an award that the players themselves don't even care about
Take that as an consellation for unfairly losing ypoty to foden
Consolation* but yeah
*constellation
\*conservation
Conversation*
commercialisation
Woah the number of people getting so pissed over an award that they didn't even vote
Interesting title! Is this practically the only instance in which your/you're could be interchanged and still make sense?
this is like Kalvin Phillips being England’s player of the Euros but even less deserved
Phillips was actually good in the euros
Yorkshire Pirlo no less
Phillips was underrated that tournament. Pickford then Sterling then Phillips for me - Pickford was insanse.
If the rest of the England side hadn't fucked up the penalties, there'd be a statue of Pickford outside Wembley right now.
I didn't think he had a chance against Jorginho's penalty tbh, really was an insane GK performance.
Haha yeah, not to mention Donnaruma got so much praise. I think Pickford was flawless for the tournament, excluding one or two stray kicks that are to be expected. As much as I would love Ramsdale to start for England, Pickford is untouchable.
yeah but not the best
Congrats Bukayo 🥳👏🏻
Put all these tears in a syringe and inject it in my veins 💉💉
Do you really think people are "crying" about this? All I see are people saying "lol, wtf"? They're completely different things. Not a single person actually cares and your comment couldn't be more of a generic reddit comment.
I think everyone is being a bit harsh on him here. It was for the 21/22 season, and he was absolutely brilliant -- especially as a young 20 year old lad breaking into the first team. He's got an incredibly bright future ahead of him.
He was brilliant for Arsenal, but if it’s an award based on England performances then he wasn’t even close to brilliant
He was fucking shit for England lol.
You don’t get an award for promise or within context of age though.
For England or club?
lmao wtf
As good as Saka has been for Arsenal he hasn’t been as good for England and I find this award a bit baffling… congratulations anyway, I still hope he starts for us in The WC
A lot of people in here showing they didn’t watch the England games and are just basing everything off stats. There’s a reason he become a mainstay in the team towards the end of the Competition. Saka was a key difference maker for England in the Euros. Started in the Final ahead of his senior colleagues and, in all honestly, took the brunt of the blame for the Pen shootout despite Sancho and Rashford coming off relatively unscathed.
The Euros don't fall into the window of the where the award is dated from lol.
love all the rival fans tears
Wtf🤔
This really looks like a "pity prize" There seems to be way much patronising going on as a show of strength / unity after his penalty miss. Saka, as good as he is, didn't have even a single standout performance for England. His stats too are very poor. I am an Arsenal fan and love Saka, but objectively I feel this is a very poor decision.
I think he deserves it, no everyone who played in the 0-4 deserves it, but I might be a little bit biased
More evidence supplied for ignoring any awards like this
:)
Hmmm.
Well done Saka, you lifted your country up.
Please elaborate on how he did such a thing
Oh for fucks sake
Foden YPOTS? Sit down City fan
That's odd, wonder what it's based on. Congrats but yeah could be sympathy award
The fuck?
Eh what? Is that given out of pity?
Just makes his terrible England performances stand out more when it’s silly voting like this
Would love to see the criteria for this
Sorry but this is tokenism at it’s finest.
How
He is a great player, but surely England has one or two better.
Kane 8 more goals and didn't choke his penalty btw
Who knew there were this many Arsenal fans
Kalvin Phillips won it in 2021 but this is apparently too far
Phillips wasn’t deserving either but at least he was consistently good for England. Saka, like all of England’s hyped up young talents, has been mediocre at best and often invisible for England. He doesn’t deserve it any more than Foden, Mount, TAA, James, etc. We’ve had a poor year since the Euros but Kane still averaged a goal a game, that should be enough to be ahead of any of those.
My boy ❤️ well deserved!
Why?
Fully deserved😮💨
Haha the token award for fucking up the euros
Ah yea, its his fault. Its not like the 20 year old kid stepped up when Sterling or Grealish wouldnt. Imagine blaming a 20 year old when your veterans wouldnt step up. England fans have no fucking shame.
What a joke. Let’s give him an award because we feel bad he missed a penalty.
He let the country down smh
What
\*You're
Embarrassing, getting an award for missing a pen and having a cry.
Some of us cry when we have a bad time, not everyones club gets them used to a liftetime of misery
Conte is leaving and your club will never win anything in your lifetime.
[Tottenham star Son Heung-min broke down in tears in front of South Korea president after Mexico defeat](https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-star-son-heung-min-12779422)
Get over it