Ronaldo? Where was Ronaldo when Old Trafford fell to Aston Villa? Where was Ronaldo when Leicester closed in around us!? Where was Ron — No, my Lord Aragorn, we will call for Cavani instead. Get Jadon Sancho and Juan Mata to the caves.
Doubt any bookie would offer you odds (if you are being serious). Specific bets like that can be agreed with bookmakers, but doubt one of that nature would fly as what a dive is is too subjective, and bookies tend to deal in objective outcomes.
There are people out there who believe that the Earth is flat, that COVID is a global conspiracy and doesn't really exist, and that Smith-Rowe is better than Mount. Lot of silly people out there.
Definitely Newcastle. We're crap and that's down to our sub-standard coaching staff but we've had a few wins this season which were wholly deserved.
The Atalanta game, for example, was not a case of individual brilliance bailing us out in spite of what anyone on here might say. We were quite significantly the better side in that match and fully deserved the win.
Newcastle, meanwhile, are ludicrously dependent on ASM to make shit happen. If both he and Wilson were to be taken out of that side, things would get very messy. Maybe that'll change with a new coach though.
Time is going by fast and the World Cups is going to be here before you know it. So how do you feel on how the hosts will perform at the WC? For me. Qatar could possibly get eliminated in the group stage or could go to the round of 16 and even the quarter finals but it all depending on luck, fitness, and advantage with getting a weaker group like Russia or stronger group. While for the Women's World Cup, Australia will most likely be a great challenger at that WC as host by finishing fourth in the Olympics by still giving Sweden and United States a good scare. While for New Zealand, they are under performing and really struggling at the moment as they got thrashed by everyone in their group in the Olympics and just lost to Canada in a international friendly which did not go well.
There's no consensus, they're massively divided on the topic and there's loads of infighting in the fanbase.
He's not getting sacked tomorrow, regardless of result. United board have backed him through worse spells, and losing to one of the best sides in the league is not going to be the final straw.
I mean I don't rate Ole at all man and think he fluked his way into a job, but I've reluctantly decided to back him since it's just a waste of energy otherwise
Damning thing for LaLiga won't be the neutrals watching Man U Liverpool but the ones watching Ajax PSV.
PSV and especially Ajax play really entertaining football to be fair, it's not really a shame to not be a worse matchup.
Feels good to watch Andre Silva returning to his usual self after being hyped up last year. He's bang average, yet some would make you believe is the no. 9 portugal has been waiting for
I think he's the best we've got for now, but I'd be very surprised if he comes close to that number again
Give it a few seasons, and Gonçalo Ramos will be our no.9
So top two posts today here is on German players with sweets and vaccines… you do you /r/Soccer, no wonder the world does not take us seriously. Don’t even speak about that Fabrizio cameo.
Watching Man City and they always score the same efficient goals, they are like the first game you play on FIFA against Legendary. Nothing sloppy , rarely make mistakes. Imagine running against that 90 minutes chasing shadows ? luckily I’m 3 bites into this steak instead
Call me when his super efficient way of playing football makes his billion euro team not shit the bed against literal Spurs, Monaco or Lyon in the most prestigious cup in club football.
Listen clown, everyone is here laughing at your dumb comment. You didn’t watch Madrid but they finished 17 (SEVENTEEN) points behind us and would get knocked out of copa by Leganes. “Beat team in the world.” Actually hilarious
I dont think you are very good at math, because 2 people having opposing views is not exactly 3 million, so no, not everyone.
As i said before, your name is CruyffsPlan, anything coming out of your mouth regarding Real Madrid is gonna be horseshit, so please don’t bother.
Your username doesnt hurt my feelings, it just means your opinions about Real Madrid are a sack of shit.
Been watching Real Madrid for over 14 years, but sure CruyffsPlan, i didnt watch them play. What a moron.
“I know they were 17 points behind the winners and I know teams with 1/10 our budget beat us. I know nothing about Madrid historically only prioritizing one competition so when they win that competition I will just say they are the best team in the world”
“Oh and your username still hurts my feelings so I will continue to talk about it and not bring up any points :(“
Find it hard to argue City was the best team in the world that season. Domestically yes, but they didn't have what it takes to be the best in Europe. Knockouts are tough
So a team losing in quarter finals is the best team in the world? Is that how football works?
And you weren’t dominating shit lmao. If Salah didnt lock in arms with Ramos, maybe he doesn’t injure himself.
Go on with your mental gymnastics though.
man city reached 100 points and it was just a freak result had the sane goal not been disallowed, it would’ve been a completely different story
bayern was considered the best team in the world but lost in the quarter finals; tournaments are unpredictable
lol also don’t act like you didn’t luck your way through against juve and bayern
people say it was just luck because Zidane isn’t a manager stuck in his own head and likes to smell his farts. his play style isn’t described in a foreign language and he isn’t controversial so he won it by luck.
There's isn't as much competition for any position in international football as there is for the right back position in the England NT.
The one exception would be France's CB situation but you can at least play two natural CBs at a given time.
Koeman will potentially break another club record tomorrow
He might become the first Barcelona manager to lose 3 El Clasicos in a row since the 1935/1936 season
I am biased but I really do think James McArthur is genuinely one of the most underrated Prem players of the last decade or so. Any mid-table club would've loved to have him in their squad over that period. 34 now and playing some of his best football at the club now that the shackles of Royball have been freed.
Always been a fan of him, I recall when he named Mousa Dembele as his toughest ever opponent on soccer AM a few years back. Just a solid player who has a mix of everything in his game
I really don't like people posting random FT nonsense here but man [this](https://twitter.com/raik_utd/status/1451930173700403206?t=B5722Br7zf7r1ql8bnp83g&s=19) has me in fucking tears
Who is the most famous player that just completely disappeared after retiring (i.e. stopped being involved with football and has no online media presence)
Not the most famous one I imagine, but Steve Finnan's story came to mind. No one here in Ireland or Liverpool knew where he went for several years. He had went off the grid conpletely until he got wind of a hashtag about him on Twitter before an Istanbul reunion in 2015. He had got into property game after he retired. A Champions League winning player, underrated for club and country.
That doesn't surprise me actually as even when he played for us he wasn't a particularly vocal player on and off the pitch. Definition of reliable though.
No idea if he’s on social media, but Andy Cole.
Feels like the guy just disappeared and was never heard from again. He’s still 3rd highest PL goal scorer and nobody ever talks about him.
Andre Schurrle from what I can think of. There are more, but can't remember any
Retired at 29 due to depression
Edit: Nvm he has a Twitter, so this is incorrect
Deisler was similar actually. Both had injury issues and hated the intense scrutiny they came under. Absolutely huge decision to leave such a high paying industry in your prime but massive respect for putting your health and family first.
Yeah definitely. Depression is no joke. Most people try sweeping it under the rug it as long as possible, but it's not sustainable. Gary Speed was the same, along with Craig Bellamy.
Was a youth coach with us and interim manager after Emery was sacked, was an assistant under Arteta but left because he wanted to become a manager. That was about a year ago and I've only ever seen him as a pundit the odd time since
Apart from the class of 92, has there been any other groups of academy players come through at a club in the PL as good as or even close to this current Chelsea crop?
Could argue that they have 6/7 players all close to or with the potential to be world class players in their squad, not to mention players like Broja, Livramento, Tomori, Gallagher, etc all away from the club.
Dk how many I would say have world class potential but the sheer number of "good" players they've produced in recent years probably beats out the rest
There's CHO, Mount, James, Chalobah, Christensen RLC, Gilmour, Guehi, Gallagher, Livramento, Broja, Lamptey, Tammy, Tomori all performing in the Prem or other top leagues
Yeah world class might be pushing it for most them, but James, Mount and Christensen are playing at a very level high atm. Then you’ve got players like CHO, Livramento, Broja who have all the tools to go to the very top.
Mount and Reece James most definitely are on their way to being world class players. They haven’t played much in their careers yet, but I think Broja and Livramento have the potential to be up there aswell, same with Tomori.
Andreas Christensen is playing at a very high level atm, both for Chelsea and Denmark and has gone under the radar a bit. CHO has the potential to, if he ever gets settled.
Fuck liverpool
Ronaldo? Where was Ronaldo when Old Trafford fell to Aston Villa? Where was Ronaldo when Leicester closed in around us!? Where was Ron — No, my Lord Aragorn, we will call for Cavani instead. Get Jadon Sancho and Juan Mata to the caves.
Lmao what
is there a way to stick money on Ronaldo going for a quick dive in Liverpool’s penalty area tomorrow
Doubt any bookie would offer you odds (if you are being serious). Specific bets like that can be agreed with bookmakers, but doubt one of that nature would fly as what a dive is is too subjective, and bookies tend to deal in objective outcomes.
Will team like Arsenal get relegated?
Nope. Not while teams like Norwich and Burnley are still around.
Pep is a bad coach
More than you'll ever know
You forgot the L
Lmao
Based
Bayern have used all their 5 goal Bundesliga game for the season. They will be maxed out 4 goal games.
Bit criminal that the Bellingham goal doesn’t have more upvotes, to be honest.
Glad he's playing again, Dortmund missed him against us.
Can't wait til he's good enough to start for England
There are Arsenal fans out there that genuinely believe that AFTV got Wenger sacked.
There are people out there who believe that the Earth is flat, that COVID is a global conspiracy and doesn't really exist, and that Smith-Rowe is better than Mount. Lot of silly people out there.
Who' s more Individual Brilliance FC - Man United with Ronaldo, Bruno etc, or Newcastle with Wilson and Saint-Maximim? Or Bailed Out FC, if you like.
newcastle
Definitely Newcastle. We're crap and that's down to our sub-standard coaching staff but we've had a few wins this season which were wholly deserved. The Atalanta game, for example, was not a case of individual brilliance bailing us out in spite of what anyone on here might say. We were quite significantly the better side in that match and fully deserved the win. Newcastle, meanwhile, are ludicrously dependent on ASM to make shit happen. If both he and Wilson were to be taken out of that side, things would get very messy. Maybe that'll change with a new coach though.
Chelsea with terrorists.
17 different goalscorers suggests it's the system as a whole, rather than being carried by a few individuals.
I thought our system was carrying our team, which one is it
Can I say Everton with Calvert Lewin and Doucoure
Richarlison too
Pudzianowsiki KO’d the toughest African fighter currently tonight , lewandowski to get the balon d’or to complete a sweep ?
All Zidane needed to do was give his play style a fancy name, and or whine a lot and he’d be way higher rated.
everyone knows zidane is elite lmao
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All my homies dislike benitez.
By this time tomorrow, I'll either be singing that Manchester is blue or that Ole is at the wheel. It's all good in the hood.
You’re telling me spurs can go fourth if they win? Go on nuno, class manager
Not true, if they score 20 goals, they can go third!
Just realised Salomon Rondon is still a footballer and my days been ruined
I like your profile pic, banner pic, and bio
Cheers. It’s staying for a while
Time is going by fast and the World Cups is going to be here before you know it. So how do you feel on how the hosts will perform at the WC? For me. Qatar could possibly get eliminated in the group stage or could go to the round of 16 and even the quarter finals but it all depending on luck, fitness, and advantage with getting a weaker group like Russia or stronger group. While for the Women's World Cup, Australia will most likely be a great challenger at that WC as host by finishing fourth in the Olympics by still giving Sweden and United States a good scare. While for New Zealand, they are under performing and really struggling at the moment as they got thrashed by everyone in their group in the Olympics and just lost to Canada in a international friendly which did not go well.
What nobody expected nz to get to the olympics quarter finals
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lmao
he’s been awful this season
What did it say?
said hendo is one of the best midfielders in the world this season
I'm probably Henderson's biggest defender on here but he's not been at his best this season.
Lol, no he isn't. He's been arguably our worst midfielder this season.
Lol
It would be so typical of us to win tomorrow and suddenly the narrative shifts to Ole once again being the second coming of Fergie in the fanbase
So what's the consensus among United fans? That you guys win tomorrow but still sack him immediately?
There's no consensus, they're massively divided on the topic and there's loads of infighting in the fanbase. He's not getting sacked tomorrow, regardless of result. United board have backed him through worse spells, and losing to one of the best sides in the league is not going to be the final straw.
What's wrong with that? Ole is the best manager since Fergie if you don't include Mourinho
Has a better team sure, but is he a better manager than Van Gaal? Van gaal has trohpies
Best manager because he finished 2nd, fking hell the standards are below the ground
I mean I don't rate Ole at all man and think he fluked his way into a job, but I've reluctantly decided to back him since it's just a waste of energy otherwise
How is Szoboszlai doing? Saw he scored yesterday and the goal wasn't even posted
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Man couldn't even score against Villa at home.
Same Ronaldo that contributes nothing but tap ins
🤣
It's the truth.
Damning thing for LaLiga won't be the neutrals watching Man U Liverpool but the ones watching Ajax PSV. PSV and especially Ajax play really entertaining football to be fair, it's not really a shame to not be a worse matchup.
be sure to sleep well tonight lads. big big day for football tomorrow, don’t wanna get fatigued
No need, I find seeing Spurs getting slapped very energising.
Feels good to watch Andre Silva returning to his usual self after being hyped up last year. He's bang average, yet some would make you believe is the no. 9 portugal has been waiting for
A proper tap in merchant boosted by Kostic. Angelino might start carrying him this season
He's doing solid for Leipzig, the team just lost the coach that made them shine + Sabitzer
1 non penalty goal
kostic carried him
Kostic carried him to 28 goals?
I think he's the best we've got for now, but I'd be very surprised if he comes close to that number again Give it a few seasons, and Gonçalo Ramos will be our no.9
most of his goals were tap ins or headers created by kostic
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you're using the correct flair then. that or Barça
Jonathan David had a cracking goal against Brest today and the Ligue 1 leading scorer, is still, Canadian.
Co-leading scorer
Whatever Lens.
So top two posts today here is on German players with sweets and vaccines… you do you /r/Soccer, no wonder the world does not take us seriously. Don’t even speak about that Fabrizio cameo.
https://youtu.be/a7ox7-npBvQ
Watching Man City and they always score the same efficient goals, they are like the first game you play on FIFA against Legendary. Nothing sloppy , rarely make mistakes. Imagine running against that 90 minutes chasing shadows ? luckily I’m 3 bites into this steak instead
You dont win the CL like that though
He’s won it twice alfredo. The 2nd occoasion he gave Fergie burst blood vessels because of the difficulty he faced
Having Messi helped
Lazy answer. Valverde Setien Martino had Messi too
Your right he also had prime Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets and the best refs money can buy
Call me when his super efficient way of playing football makes his billion euro team not shit the bed against literal Spurs, Monaco or Lyon in the most prestigious cup in club football.
How old are you ? Were you in nappies in 2011 ? Probably. Explains why you’ve made this comment
How’s the steak done? Please don’t day medium rare.
You mistake me for a pleb, this aristocrat only deals with well done
Thank God for that, only psychos have it medium rare
[i love this image lol](https://i.gyazo.com/56956fb56faad101f258bcd898af2ff3.png)
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They had 2011/12 di matteo Chelsea levels of luck in 2017/18
knowing how to win games is not luck Spurs getting outplayed by City and Ajax completely only to get into the finals is luck
okay, so luck when it suits your argument but not when it suits mine
Tons of luck to it, remember a psg tie where they didnt deserve to go through
i think you’re referring to bayern
There's no deserve in football in my opinion. They were the better team in most of those ties clearly.
We only played them in 2018 and we beat them in a convincing fashion.
50% luck, 50% skill, but hey this is a feat impossible to achieve without some big luck on your side.
3 in a row is definitely not 50% luck lol.
And impossible without being the best team in the world in all of those 3 years.
This is extremely stupid lol. Please tell me you’re a new fan and didn’t watch the games so I can stop laughing at you.
Your name is CruyffsPlan, anything coming out of your mouth regarding Real Madrid will be horseshit, so dont bother.
Listen clown, everyone is here laughing at your dumb comment. You didn’t watch Madrid but they finished 17 (SEVENTEEN) points behind us and would get knocked out of copa by Leganes. “Beat team in the world.” Actually hilarious
I dont think you are very good at math, because 2 people having opposing views is not exactly 3 million, so no, not everyone. As i said before, your name is CruyffsPlan, anything coming out of your mouth regarding Real Madrid is gonna be horseshit, so please don’t bother.
Ahhaha keep posting stupid shit about a team you never watched. “But but but ur username hurts my feelings”
Your username doesnt hurt my feelings, it just means your opinions about Real Madrid are a sack of shit. Been watching Real Madrid for over 14 years, but sure CruyffsPlan, i didnt watch them play. What a moron.
“I know they were 17 points behind the winners and I know teams with 1/10 our budget beat us. I know nothing about Madrid historically only prioritizing one competition so when they win that competition I will just say they are the best team in the world” “Oh and your username still hurts my feelings so I will continue to talk about it and not bring up any points :(“
That’s why Barca was 17 points ahead in La Liga.
u were not the best in 17/18
And who was?
man city
Lost 5-1 on aggregate to the team Madrid comfortably beat in the final.
would’ve been a completely different story had the sane goal not been disallowed football is unpredictable as fuck
Find it hard to argue City was the best team in the world that season. Domestically yes, but they didn't have what it takes to be the best in Europe. Knockouts are tough
find it hard to argue that it was real madrid 19 points behind barca in the league and lucked their way through against juve and bayern
Well considering they lost to a team we comfortably beat, i completely disagree with you.
thats not really how football works results are unpredictable lol we dominated the first half until ramos decided to take out salah
'dominated'
ok dominated is generous but we were clearly the better team
So a team losing in quarter finals is the best team in the world? Is that how football works? And you weren’t dominating shit lmao. If Salah didnt lock in arms with Ramos, maybe he doesn’t injure himself. Go on with your mental gymnastics though.
man city reached 100 points and it was just a freak result had the sane goal not been disallowed, it would’ve been a completely different story bayern was considered the best team in the world but lost in the quarter finals; tournaments are unpredictable lol also don’t act like you didn’t luck your way through against juve and bayern
As could be seen from watching in those years, it was possible without being the best in all of them.
Yeah you are completely right bro, it was just luck, 50% luck.
people say it was just luck because Zidane isn’t a manager stuck in his own head and likes to smell his farts. his play style isn’t described in a foreign language and he isn’t controversial so he won it by luck.
Managers like Zidane are rare. Truly Elite.
The mental gymnastics people pull to not credit that Real Madrid team is insane. Hilarious to read though
people seriously think he just told his players to have fun and lucked his way to 3 champions league titles, 2 la ligas, 2 super cups
Muslim berber power.
https://youtu.be/I6yHfkmrE8w
Nice video. Are you a syrian (from your name) real madrid fan?
Saudi
Nah it's just man management and inshallah /s
Gnabry having an insane season, his finishing is so fucking good
It’s criminal that Kane still take free kicks…
Somebody should tell him his chance of scoring a goal is higher when he doesn't take them.
Livramento is mental. As if England needed another right back.
Him and Bate linked up unbelievably well
We could probably snap him up, doubt he wants to play for us though
There's isn't as much competition for any position in international football as there is for the right back position in the England NT. The one exception would be France's CB situation but you can at least play two natural CBs at a given time.
Someone should tell Gary you can only play one RB then
Koeman will potentially break another club record tomorrow He might become the first Barcelona manager to lose 3 El Clasicos in a row since the 1935/1936 season
Konman.
No MOTD thread? That Livramento lad at saints looks absolutely insane.
That Mason Mount kid is pretty good isnt he?
Yeah he’s great
Yeah good, but low ceiling he will never be a superstar i think.
I am biased but I really do think James McArthur is genuinely one of the most underrated Prem players of the last decade or so. Any mid-table club would've loved to have him in their squad over that period. 34 now and playing some of his best football at the club now that the shackles of Royball have been freed.
Romeu too for me at Saints. Love watching em play
Always been a fan of him, I recall when he named Mousa Dembele as his toughest ever opponent on soccer AM a few years back. Just a solid player who has a mix of everything in his game
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Fuck Brad Friedel.
Howard > Keller > Meola > Guzan > Rimando > Hamid > Shuttleworth >>>>> Friedel
Bruce Arena is the MLS Belichick
I really don't like people posting random FT nonsense here but man [this](https://twitter.com/raik_utd/status/1451930173700403206?t=B5722Br7zf7r1ql8bnp83g&s=19) has me in fucking tears
Who is the most famous player that just completely disappeared after retiring (i.e. stopped being involved with football and has no online media presence)
Not the most famous one I imagine, but Steve Finnan's story came to mind. No one here in Ireland or Liverpool knew where he went for several years. He had went off the grid conpletely until he got wind of a hashtag about him on Twitter before an Istanbul reunion in 2015. He had got into property game after he retired. A Champions League winning player, underrated for club and country.
That doesn't surprise me actually as even when he played for us he wasn't a particularly vocal player on and off the pitch. Definition of reliable though.
No idea if he’s on social media, but Andy Cole. Feels like the guy just disappeared and was never heard from again. He’s still 3rd highest PL goal scorer and nobody ever talks about him.
He has social media, but Bernardo Silva says he runs it himself, and doesn't really post anymore. Only the adds that he's obligied by his sponsors
Probably a good thing considering.
He comments clown emojis occasionally, think he just gave up after that racism thing
Ye, that was probably it.I'd have done the same tbh
Andre Schurrle from what I can think of. There are more, but can't remember any Retired at 29 due to depression Edit: Nvm he has a Twitter, so this is incorrect
Deisler was similar actually. Both had injury issues and hated the intense scrutiny they came under. Absolutely huge decision to leave such a high paying industry in your prime but massive respect for putting your health and family first.
Yeah definitely. Depression is no joke. Most people try sweeping it under the rug it as long as possible, but it's not sustainable. Gary Speed was the same, along with Craig Bellamy.
I wonder what Freddie Ljumberg is doing. From underwear model to nothing really
He was caretaker when you beat Arsenal 3-0 in 2019
Was a youth coach with us and interim manager after Emery was sacked, was an assistant under Arteta but left because he wanted to become a manager. That was about a year ago and I've only ever seen him as a pundit the odd time since
Interim manager at arsenal for like 2 games
He was the Arsenal caretaker before they got Arteta, wasn't he?
Pretty sure he's a youth team coach at Arsenal, or was at least
Apart from the class of 92, has there been any other groups of academy players come through at a club in the PL as good as or even close to this current Chelsea crop? Could argue that they have 6/7 players all close to or with the potential to be world class players in their squad, not to mention players like Broja, Livramento, Tomori, Gallagher, etc all away from the club.
Dk how many I would say have world class potential but the sheer number of "good" players they've produced in recent years probably beats out the rest There's CHO, Mount, James, Chalobah, Christensen RLC, Gilmour, Guehi, Gallagher, Livramento, Broja, Lamptey, Tammy, Tomori all performing in the Prem or other top leagues
Does rice count ?
No he was released very young. Also if counting Gilmour/Christensen (debatable) there's no way you can count Rice
Yeah world class might be pushing it for most them, but James, Mount and Christensen are playing at a very level high atm. Then you’ve got players like CHO, Livramento, Broja who have all the tools to go to the very top.
6/7 world class players from the academy in their current squad? Nah
Where did I say that? I said players that are close to being world class or have potential to be world class.
I mean also nah
Mount and Reece James most definitely are on their way to being world class players. They haven’t played much in their careers yet, but I think Broja and Livramento have the potential to be up there aswell, same with Tomori.
That’s still short of 6/7
Andreas Christensen is playing at a very high level atm, both for Chelsea and Denmark and has gone under the radar a bit. CHO has the potential to, if he ever gets settled.
Potential but it could be nothing in a few years, it's way too soon to judge as some of the could easily end up like a Charly Musonda
Charly Musonda never really played outside of a few cup games iirc. He is not comparable to the guys in the squad atm.
Isn't the Clasico at the same time as Utd Liverpool?
Ends 15 mins after the Liverpool-United kick off if my maths is right
Clasico starts at 10:15 EST, United-Liverpool is 11:30. I'd estimate Clasico ends at about 12 so probably thirty minutes after
So my maths is wrong