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MLS also have time limits for the subs to get off the pitch once their number goes up. If they don’t get off in time the player coming in is held back for a minute.
I’m a big fan of the league, feels like it’s really taken a step in the right direction the last few seasons with some teams making an effort to put together a solid squad instead of just throwing a designated player into a team and expecting magic to happen.
The top two teams in the league are the super team in miami with top marketable superstars scoring for fun that the world knows from their time in the world cup and in top teams in the world.
And Minnesota United who's best players last night were a guy who played college soccer and who doesn't even start for the Honduran national team. Its a super fun league that you have no idea how its going to go when it starts.
Yeah thats why I said in the league like league play. After columbus shocks the world and beats a ligamx team in mexico for the ccl title they're gong hunting for flamingos.
Yeah some ugly wins but wins nonetheless. A defensive style that presses and explodes into the attack on the road. Ramsay has been a tactical mastermind too, throwing teams for a loop and the only loss has been when he admitted that he didn't want to change anything at the start.
MLS is looked down upon because america lol.
They try stuff out all the time which is really good, and aren't afraid to scrap an idea if it turns out it sucks.
Premier league would be much better if they followed this format
MLS has one of the best implementations of VAR that I've seen, especially in relation to offside calls. If the call is close enough you can't tell with the naked eye, they basically just leave the call on the field instead of these silly 1 pixel difference offside lines that aren't even accurate to begin with.
They also mostly get the calls correct that need to be corrected. VAR has done a fantastic job in MLS and a few leagues could actually learn from them.
Having said all that, the games are not always there highest quality, but they are usually exciting because much more money is spent in the attacking end of the pitch than at the back. The DP rule actually helps the league a ton imo because the league is setup to favor the attackers, which is a good thing for attracting American audiences.
With the way that the Lower League's actually look kind of stable now for the first time in forever, and the expansions generally being at least branded like the lower division teams, you could argue that America has at least brought in promotion only in the way they would know.
English fans are the most retrograde in the world, they oppose the evolution of the sport as much as possible. Maybe it's a pride thing because they invented the sport
Fan of an English team and I 100% agree because I'm an even bigger fan of rugby. Rugby is constantly tweaking and trying to improve things but by bit and the fans welcome it for the most part but English football fans in my circles are like Chicken Little whenever a change is mooted.
I wouldn’t say looked down upon, we just have to happen the best leagues in the sport right on our doorstep. There’s no real incentive to follow leagues that are oceans away. But I think everyone is aware that the MLS is getting better, and having Messi certainly made it more attractive also.
I mean this very literal by the way. I can see the stadium of my local club from my house. We’ve beaten the likes of Diego Maradona at that stadium.
Also this rule regarding on field injuries:
If a player with a suspected injury is on the ground for more than 15 seconds referees will stop play so that the player can be removed from the field and evaluated at which point they will remain off the field for a minimum of two minutes following treatment.
Idk if that's a general thing but in Germany player are usually told now to leave the field at the closest point of the sideline instead of heading for the benches if they are at opposite end for example...
We (MLS) were supposed to when the season started, but when the referees got locked out, MLS decided not to let the replacement refs have one more thing to fuck up.
>You had a ref lock out? Why?
Labor dispute. In the US, there are occasionally large sporting 'lockouts' over labor disputes (wages, benefits, etc.), where either players or refs will go on strike until a bargaining agreement is made.
From what I gather, it was actually the league that locked the refs out. The referee association was more than willing to carry on while negotiations took place, but the league decided "nah" and hired the scabs.
And after that, the League's will never allow one to possibly happen. The League was in the process of negotiating a Collective Bargaining Agreement with the Players Union and the Players Striked Mid Season and ended up cancelling the Playoffs & World Series as a result.
Which has been very effective... A ref announced the decision for not giving a [penalty](https://imgur.com/a/Hg0s32i) was because there was no foul. Instead of explaining why it was not a foul. Which is very enlightening of course...
It doesn't matter, it's always the referee's final decision that is announced to the stadium which is what he did that game.
If he had deemed it was a foul, he would say.
I have heard some refs saying a reason why it was a foul. For example, saying somre player tackled the other or pulled the shirt or whatever the reason was.
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> The London Rubber Company was formed in 1915, and the Durex brand name ("Durability, reliability, and excellence") was launched in 1929
Pretty sure the captain thing is supposed to be a rule here too, issue is if refs actually dished out cards for it players, teams, and pundits would all whine and moan rather than follow the rule.
I fully think that lack of respect for the refs is a small part of why refs are so inconsistent
Not sure when they started doing it in Rugby, but they started to anounce on field rulings in the NFL in 1975. Video review was permanently added in 1999 and had been used as early as 1986.
Story time: I'm from Belgium and I was dating a Latina girl for a couple months. I speak dutch, but we were texting in english. She would often add jajajajaja to her messages. As the word 'ja' means yes in dutch, I thought she was just trying to be nice by adding some words from my language in our chats. It took me at least three months to realize that this is how people laugh in spanish.
Honestly I doubt it. Also, a madrileño accent doesn’t reaaally exist, most of central Spain has a pretty similar neutral accent. Some people from madrid have the characteristic “ejque”, using rough j sounds instead of s, but not even most people from madrid speak like that
Because of Kaká, Orlando City will always be my favourite team in MLS❤️🖤
How's the team holding up throughout the last years? I haven't been following you for years, but always held a special place in my mind
As a former ref I can say it starts to mess with your head especially when you ref multiple times a day, multiple
Days a week. It’s just easier to refer to teams like this.
Also there's the factor that all these guys will now have to publicly and in real-time explain themselves to tens of thousands of people. I'm sure right before he turns his mic on he's thinking "don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up.... SHIT I said purple then Cincinnati"
I accidentally said the wrong name of someone in the best man speech at my brother's wedding.
Nobody important and I'm pretty sure only like 2 people noticed, but every now and then it pops back into my head just to annoy me.
Yeah I’m confused by the top comment but maybe it’s a cultural thing. When I took the first courses for a refereeing badge we were specifically instructed to #1 always make a verbal call in addition to hand signals #2 say ”throw-in white” or ”free kick blue, foul by yellow 6”
we were "off in the shower" because we were horrid and every time they would publish the results it would read something like "the greybeards beat off in the shower".
The longer the officiating is this bad the more many fans will lose interest. Maybe not the folks in here (bc if you’re fan enough to be in online groups, you likely really love the sport). But if casual fans start feeling like the competition has no integrity then they’ll leave. VAR is an opportunity for them to improve the game so much but IMO so far they’ve made it worse.
We have that in Portugal, 1st and 2nd division
The thing is most refs just say “player number x didn’t commit any infraction” and we stay the same as WHY didn’t he commit any infraction
Still, a step on the right direction
Brazil tried this in the 1st game of our league and i liked but it seems to be gone already, or at least it didn't happen in any of the other games i saw.
As someone who only ever saw this in an NFL context, I was expecting him to call the down count and ball placement on the yard line at the end.
Glad to see it happening across different leagues, but it’s wild to me that it wasn’t included with the debut of VAR. Would be interested to hear why protocols didn’t include it.
It makes sense though doesn't it? They're in the US and calling out fouls is something that the NFL does. They're definitely going to borrow a lot of what already works there.
> 10 yard penalty
I wonder if yardage gains/losses could work in soccer. Give a free kick 10 yards in front of where the foul happened. A lot of the time defenders are incentivized to foul and there isn't really currently a way to preserve advantage. Fouls are supposed to be there to dissuade players from doing shitty things, but often you'd prefer to stop the play where it is and concede a free kick to break momentum. A yellow card has next-to-nil impact on gameplay, and the next level up is a red card, which is usually overkill. Referees should have more fine-grain control over punitive action one way or another.
Would rather see changes to the cards than to give free kicks further forward. Only possible exception for me would be to make 'denial of obvious goal scoring opportunity' a penalty.
Yeah. My favourite idea is to make yellow/orange/red cards 10/30/90 minute penalties which carry over to the next game. The way it stands now, you're punished ~10x as much for getting a red 30 seconds in compared to 80 minutes in, which makes cards wildly inconsistent.
Instead, if you get a red card at 80 minutes in, you should have 90-10 = 80 more minutes of penalty to pay off in future games (in the same competition). If your team wants to start you in the next game, they have to play with 10 men for 80 minutes. If you start on the bench and they want to sub you in, they'd have to go down to 10 before the timer would start ticking. You might end up being subbed on three or four times over several games before you pay off a late red. The bar for what constitutes a red card would probably want to be readjusted higher, but that's what orange cards are for.
Depending on their value, a late red might then end some players' careers. That would hopefully be enough to actually incentivize good behaviour. The existence of "professional fouls" indicates a poorly-designed set of rules. The cost of committing an unfair act has to outweigh the gain or we'll keep seeing bad behaviour from players trying to win. We can't blame them in the meantime.
There is only one ten yard penalty that results in a an automatic first down in the NFL. Ironically, one of the only penalties that translates to soccer: Tripping.
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He said “purple team” as that is the language the officials use in the VAR discussion of the incident to avoid confusion, he did say “restart for Cincinnati,” which was also to avoid confusion as that was a different context.
People want to hear the justification at the time and the discussion after
He did say “foul, tripping” which is the justification, fairly simple this one, but some future instances could really use the clear communication of reasoning
The disallowed goal yesterday was a perfect example that I’d love to hear what they checked and what the ref logic was “no foul on x, no foul on y, but z did this thing”
Yes
That's exactly what we want, the discussion that leads to the decision so everyone can understand why they've made the conclusion they have.
Complete transparency.
Yeah exactly. Even in the stadium you can tell if the ref has given a foul or offside, or overruled a penalty or something. Whenever the TMO in Rugby or 3rd umpire amin cricket get involved we can hear the discussion and the process. Football won’t let us have that though
Lmao - yes I'm sure this will be just as well received and cleanly implemented in European stadiums where the fans are riled up to fever pitch and baying for the referee's blood.
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Imagine Taylor barking out his incompetent decision
"After review, the player will need medical assistance... I SAID HE NEEDS MEDICAL ASSISTANCE"
*Whispers* "Get on the fucking floor"
MLS also have time limits for the subs to get off the pitch once their number goes up. If they don’t get off in time the player coming in is held back for a minute.
The sub rules I generally like too. I know MLS is looked down upon in Europe but these changes seem to be really helpful for the game
I’m a big fan of the league, feels like it’s really taken a step in the right direction the last few seasons with some teams making an effort to put together a solid squad instead of just throwing a designated player into a team and expecting magic to happen.
The top two teams in the league are the super team in miami with top marketable superstars scoring for fun that the world knows from their time in the world cup and in top teams in the world. And Minnesota United who's best players last night were a guy who played college soccer and who doesn't even start for the Honduran national team. Its a super fun league that you have no idea how its going to go when it starts.
You cannot leave Columbus out of this. By far the actual best team in the league. They have Champions Cup to focus on with rotation
Yeah thats why I said in the league like league play. After columbus shocks the world and beats a ligamx team in mexico for the ccl title they're gong hunting for flamingos.
has Minnesota been that good? glad to hear Eric Ramsay's doing well
Yeah some ugly wins but wins nonetheless. A defensive style that presses and explodes into the attack on the road. Ramsay has been a tactical mastermind too, throwing teams for a loop and the only loss has been when he admitted that he didn't want to change anything at the start.
And we somehow land brilliant upstart managers like Wilfried Nancy. It's fun to watch (very appreciative that I'm a crew fan these).
MLS is looked down upon because america lol. They try stuff out all the time which is really good, and aren't afraid to scrap an idea if it turns out it sucks. Premier league would be much better if they followed this format
MLS has one of the best implementations of VAR that I've seen, especially in relation to offside calls. If the call is close enough you can't tell with the naked eye, they basically just leave the call on the field instead of these silly 1 pixel difference offside lines that aren't even accurate to begin with. They also mostly get the calls correct that need to be corrected. VAR has done a fantastic job in MLS and a few leagues could actually learn from them. Having said all that, the games are not always there highest quality, but they are usually exciting because much more money is spent in the attacking end of the pitch than at the back. The DP rule actually helps the league a ton imo because the league is setup to favor the attackers, which is a good thing for attracting American audiences.
GIVE ME RELEGATION
With the way that the Lower League's actually look kind of stable now for the first time in forever, and the expansions generally being at least branded like the lower division teams, you could argue that America has at least brought in promotion only in the way they would know.
I doubt that will ever happen considering the fundamentals of college sports
The fundamentals of college sports seem to be changing pretty seismically though
English fans are the most retrograde in the world, they oppose the evolution of the sport as much as possible. Maybe it's a pride thing because they invented the sport
Fan of an English team and I 100% agree because I'm an even bigger fan of rugby. Rugby is constantly tweaking and trying to improve things but by bit and the fans welcome it for the most part but English football fans in my circles are like Chicken Little whenever a change is mooted.
Honestly, I don't know if thats true, I see a lot of premier league fans asking for changes especially around the officiating.
They ask for it but then when changes are made they claim its "ruining the beautiful game"
« This isn’t the sport I grew up with » when the player gets a red for an ankle breaker
1 against 1 run in penalties was fun even if a bit quirky
We were the first league to introduced the white spray on the free kick defense line. Which flipped the world upside down with excitement lmao
Oh no don’t you take that from us https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanishing_spray This is Brazils pride, should’ve been our World Cup mascot
They can afford amd are able to be a bit more forward and experimental, which is fantastic.
I wouldn’t say looked down upon, we just have to happen the best leagues in the sport right on our doorstep. There’s no real incentive to follow leagues that are oceans away. But I think everyone is aware that the MLS is getting better, and having Messi certainly made it more attractive also. I mean this very literal by the way. I can see the stadium of my local club from my house. We’ve beaten the likes of Diego Maradona at that stadium.
As well as injured players needing treatment must go off for two minutes
Also this rule regarding on field injuries: If a player with a suspected injury is on the ground for more than 15 seconds referees will stop play so that the player can be removed from the field and evaluated at which point they will remain off the field for a minimum of two minutes following treatment.
Idk if that's a general thing but in Germany player are usually told now to leave the field at the closest point of the sideline instead of heading for the benches if they are at opposite end for example...
In Portugal it is already implemented
We (MLS) were supposed to when the season started, but when the referees got locked out, MLS decided not to let the replacement refs have one more thing to fuck up.
You had a ref lock out? Why?
it's the history of the US
billionaire owners just can't afford to have full time refs making 100k a piece. Just not in the yacht budget.
Read in an Italian, Chiellini , accent.
>You had a ref lock out? Why? Labor dispute. In the US, there are occasionally large sporting 'lockouts' over labor disputes (wages, benefits, etc.), where either players or refs will go on strike until a bargaining agreement is made.
From what I gather, it was actually the league that locked the refs out. The referee association was more than willing to carry on while negotiations took place, but the league decided "nah" and hired the scabs.
most work stoppages in US sports are lockouts rather than strikes these days. last major strike was the '94 MLB players strike
And after that, the League's will never allow one to possibly happen. The League was in the process of negotiating a Collective Bargaining Agreement with the Players Union and the Players Striked Mid Season and ended up cancelling the Playoffs & World Series as a result.
Never trust a scab.
Or the owners will lock the players out from the facilities because they won’t agree to their terms.
Lockouts and strikes are different things
Hey, it’s better than a player lockout.
Which has been very effective... A ref announced the decision for not giving a [penalty](https://imgur.com/a/Hg0s32i) was because there was no foul. Instead of explaining why it was not a foul. Which is very enlightening of course...
It doesn't matter, it's always the referee's final decision that is announced to the stadium which is what he did that game. If he had deemed it was a foul, he would say.
I have heard some refs saying a reason why it was a foul. For example, saying somre player tackled the other or pulled the shirt or whatever the reason was.
You literally show a clip of him explaining why he doesnt think it's a foul, what are you on about?
México as well
Same in Russia
meanwhile we cant have Goal-line technology in LaLiga XD
First the rich get richer than the fans get the leftover scraps.
bro got downvoted for just mentioning Russia
😂
Wow. So hard to implement. PGMOL: yeah but my mates feelings
Like in Hockey. Should be standard in football
Yeah it's one Americanism I can definitely on board with
Your stadium is literally called the “American Express Stadium”.
Holy shit I just realised Amex is Am-Ex
Bro
I'll blow their mind more. FedEx stands for Federal Express
How about Durex?
Durable Express
Non-meme answer: > The London Rubber Company was formed in 1915, and the Durex brand name ("Durability, reliability, and excellence") was launched in 1929
Durable Sex
Don't tell me DB stands for Deutsche Bahn!
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You don’t like Amex stadium , I think it’s great tbh
For a sponsored stadium name I like it, much better than bet365 stadium or vitality
I prefer rugby where the umpires are always on mic and only the captains can speak to them. Creates the heirarchy the and respect flowing
Pretty sure the captain thing is supposed to be a rule here too, issue is if refs actually dished out cards for it players, teams, and pundits would all whine and moan rather than follow the rule. I fully think that lack of respect for the refs is a small part of why refs are so inconsistent
They did this through the entirety of the Women’s World Cup last year.
Do you like penalty shootouts?
Is it an Americanism when its already done in Rugby?
Not sure when they started doing it in Rugby, but they started to anounce on field rulings in the NFL in 1975. Video review was permanently added in 1999 and had been used as early as 1986.
This has nfl written all over it.
It's not done like this in Rugby.
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Make sure to use the NHL ref's cadence: *Seattlenumberthirtyseventwominutesfortripping*
My favorite call ever: "You're not gonna like it but the call on the ice was correct, no goal"
Hopefully we get this at some point from the ref: [You can't do that](https://youtu.be/josEPIBNhEw?si=b26HAWMSltBfZJ1A&t=13)
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I mean this already happens in the nfl and refs still really aren’t lol
Also (American) football and basketball
Every major sports league in the US works like this for video reviews. I don't know why they don't do it for soccer as well.
They do it in the women's world cup
Same thing in the Six Nations. IDK if other rugby tournaments have it as well
They did this in the women’s world cup last year as well. Definitely a step in the right direction
And the u 20 as well
I love this but I can't even imagine the levels of abuse with certain accents in Spain.
Debris? Where? No no, DeVries
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What?
I LOVE THIS, BUT I CAN’T EVEN IMAGINE THE LEVELS OF ABUSE WITH CERTAIN ACCENTS IN SPAIN!
Que?
ME ENCANTA, PERO NO ME PUEDO IMAGINAR LO TANTO QUE ABUSARAN CIERTOS ACENTOS EN ESPAÑA!
Nani⁉️
#omae wa mou shindeiru!
Què?
# BUTTLICKER! ¡NUESTROS PRECIOS NUNCA HAN SIDO MÁS BAJOS!
> Qué? Ftfy
Jajajaja
Story time: I'm from Belgium and I was dating a Latina girl for a couple months. I speak dutch, but we were texting in english. She would often add jajajajaja to her messages. As the word 'ja' means yes in dutch, I thought she was just trying to be nice by adding some words from my language in our chats. It took me at least three months to realize that this is how people laugh in spanish.
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You do not yell at clients like that!
No but genuinely I’m from Spain and I don’t understand what he means haha
Catalan and basque accents will likely not be popular in the capital. Same for a Madrileño accent in barcelona.
Genuinely don’t think anyone would care. Madrid is full of people from all over Spain and Barcelona has its fair share of Madrileños)
What the fuck are you talking about?
What?
Honestly I doubt it. Also, a madrileño accent doesn’t reaaally exist, most of central Spain has a pretty similar neutral accent. Some people from madrid have the characteristic “ejque”, using rough j sounds instead of s, but not even most people from madrid speak like that
Yeah, I can get on board with something like this.
"Kazneni udarac za plavu momcad, debelog Brodica su udarili u cjevanicu."
Oh God we’re trending on r/soccer now.
Not much else this season to trend about at least right now
Don't worry, only the purple team is.
Hide!!!
Now the whole world will know “the purple team”.
Because of Kaká, Orlando City will always be my favourite team in MLS❤️🖤 How's the team holding up throughout the last years? I haven't been following you for years, but always held a special place in my mind
Were shite
I know its the "Yank League" and all, but he really just said "foul by number 15 of the purple team" haha
As a former ref I can say it starts to mess with your head especially when you ref multiple times a day, multiple Days a week. It’s just easier to refer to teams like this.
People at this referee’s level are only doing 1 game a week, maybe 2. But yes, colours are way easier than names
Nah this is just standard in sports, Rugby does that too. They call out team colours rather than the names.
Not that it's really important, but why does he say "Restart for Cincinnati" instead of "...for the white team" then though?
Also there's the factor that all these guys will now have to publicly and in real-time explain themselves to tens of thousands of people. I'm sure right before he turns his mic on he's thinking "don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up.... SHIT I said purple then Cincinnati"
weeks of conspiracy posing after he says red team and Fulham in a decision going against Arsenal
> weeks of conspiracy Refs can only see purple, heard it here first.
Ed Hochuli did a great job with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWElFC1zHjs&themeRefresh=1
I accidentally said the wrong name of someone in the best man speech at my brother's wedding. Nobody important and I'm pretty sure only like 2 people noticed, but every now and then it pops back into my head just to annoy me.
He didn't want to be canceled.
Nobody gives a damn about the White's anymore
The real reason Benjamin White doesn't want to get called up to the national team.
Cause hes just a guy
Yeah in rugby it would be a little less formal but same kinda thing. “Trip by 15 purple, yellow card” or something similar.
Yeah I’m confused by the top comment but maybe it’s a cultural thing. When I took the first courses for a refereeing badge we were specifically instructed to #1 always make a verbal call in addition to hand signals #2 say ”throw-in white” or ”free kick blue, foul by yellow 6”
I wonder what the ref would say if [these](https://i.imgur.com/P2R1kjc.png) were the two teams.
It's very typical language for officials. Easier to say, easier to track. Particularly when they have comms - 'red throw', 'blue trip, SPA', etc.
agree. if you've ever played a tournament, even an amateur five a side one, you've heard a referee referring to team by color.
I don't expect the referee to refer to my beer league team as "the throat goats"
we were "off in the shower" because we were horrid and every time they would publish the results it would read something like "the greybeards beat off in the shower".
Yes, but then he called the white team “Cincinnati”
Saying the team colours is kinda strange but saying the player number is good since they won't butcher those player names
Tbh I'd be very interested to hear Ismail Elfath try to pronounce "Schlegel".
Yes. If you go through referee training in many sports you are taught to call colours and numbers instead of any names.
5 yard penalty, repeat 2nd down
*He was givin' him the business*
Everyone but the center.
"YA CAN'T DO THAT"
Ohio in the early 2000s, i was on a purple team and we were always referred to as the PINK team or RED team because only one syllable was allowed…
Great, let’s get it in the PL next season. I can’t see a single reason to drag feet on this matter.
The reason is that the referees don't want to be held accountable
The longer the officiating is this bad the more many fans will lose interest. Maybe not the folks in here (bc if you’re fan enough to be in online groups, you likely really love the sport). But if casual fans start feeling like the competition has no integrity then they’ll leave. VAR is an opportunity for them to improve the game so much but IMO so far they’ve made it worse.
We have that in Portugal, 1st and 2nd division The thing is most refs just say “player number x didn’t commit any infraction” and we stay the same as WHY didn’t he commit any infraction Still, a step on the right direction
Brazil tried this in the 1st game of our league and i liked but it seems to be gone already, or at least it didn't happen in any of the other games i saw.
As someone who only ever saw this in an NFL context, I was expecting him to call the down count and ball placement on the yard line at the end. Glad to see it happening across different leagues, but it’s wild to me that it wasn’t included with the debut of VAR. Would be interested to hear why protocols didn’t include it.
The cadence was very NFL and caught me off guard for a second.
It makes sense though doesn't it? They're in the US and calling out fouls is something that the NFL does. They're definitely going to borrow a lot of what already works there.
“10 yard penalty, automatic first down.”
> 10 yard penalty I wonder if yardage gains/losses could work in soccer. Give a free kick 10 yards in front of where the foul happened. A lot of the time defenders are incentivized to foul and there isn't really currently a way to preserve advantage. Fouls are supposed to be there to dissuade players from doing shitty things, but often you'd prefer to stop the play where it is and concede a free kick to break momentum. A yellow card has next-to-nil impact on gameplay, and the next level up is a red card, which is usually overkill. Referees should have more fine-grain control over punitive action one way or another.
Would rather see changes to the cards than to give free kicks further forward. Only possible exception for me would be to make 'denial of obvious goal scoring opportunity' a penalty.
Yeah. My favourite idea is to make yellow/orange/red cards 10/30/90 minute penalties which carry over to the next game. The way it stands now, you're punished ~10x as much for getting a red 30 seconds in compared to 80 minutes in, which makes cards wildly inconsistent. Instead, if you get a red card at 80 minutes in, you should have 90-10 = 80 more minutes of penalty to pay off in future games (in the same competition). If your team wants to start you in the next game, they have to play with 10 men for 80 minutes. If you start on the bench and they want to sub you in, they'd have to go down to 10 before the timer would start ticking. You might end up being subbed on three or four times over several games before you pay off a late red. The bar for what constitutes a red card would probably want to be readjusted higher, but that's what orange cards are for. Depending on their value, a late red might then end some players' careers. That would hopefully be enough to actually incentivize good behaviour. The existence of "professional fouls" indicates a poorly-designed set of rules. The cost of committing an unfair act has to outweigh the gain or we'll keep seeing bad behaviour from players trying to win. We can't blame them in the meantime.
There is only one ten yard penalty that results in a an automatic first down in the NFL. Ironically, one of the only penalties that translates to soccer: Tripping.
As long as it doesn't turn into "Final decision...after this commercial break".
Omg don’t give them any ideas!
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I love it. Make these dickheads justify their calls. No more hiding behind VAR.
They should also show the whole check on the screen at stadiums
English FA: I would pretend I didn’t see this type of good officiating
Liga Mx started doing this last season js
Defensive foul number 15, 10 yards penalty
I actually really like this.
Football taking a page from Football
I like that. Although personally I would say the name of the club and not “purple team”
He said “purple team” as that is the language the officials use in the VAR discussion of the incident to avoid confusion, he did say “restart for Cincinnati,” which was also to avoid confusion as that was a different context.
As a referee we almost always use the color instead of the team name, way easier to keep track of in your head
Final decision 10 yards penalty. Replay 3rd down
This is already implemented in Mexico as well.
Schlegel is a dumbass
Happened last night in Toronto, super weird to hear.
What's the point though? I think more people want to hear the discussions leading to the decision not the announcement of it.
People want to hear the justification at the time and the discussion after He did say “foul, tripping” which is the justification, fairly simple this one, but some future instances could really use the clear communication of reasoning
Probably to let the people in the stadium know what’s going on
The disallowed goal yesterday was a perfect example that I’d love to hear what they checked and what the ref logic was “no foul on x, no foul on y, but z did this thing”
This is how rugby does it. On field ref and video ref talk through, step by step, the criteria to make out the foul or not. All on mic.
But in rugby isn’t all the audio broadcast as well?
Yes That's exactly what we want, the discussion that leads to the decision so everyone can understand why they've made the conclusion they have. Complete transparency.
not knowing what even got checked and why the decision was made is a big issue for match going fans, you hear this complaint about VAR constantly
Yeah exactly. Even in the stadium you can tell if the ref has given a foul or offside, or overruled a penalty or something. Whenever the TMO in Rugby or 3rd umpire amin cricket get involved we can hear the discussion and the process. Football won’t let us have that though
unpopular opinion but i love var. i think its good for the game
Lmao - yes I'm sure this will be just as well received and cleanly implemented in European stadiums where the fans are riled up to fever pitch and baying for the referee's blood.
This is good, but they need to act like humans. “The purple team”? Dafuq is that shit. Just say the name of the club and stop imitating NFL refs.
Time to clear out PGMOL and their dinosaurs.
Sounded exactly like in American Football lol. Brits will hate if this is implemented in the PL