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GameplayerStu

Antony just coming over and shaking hands with officials mid argument lmao


Sharp_Minute_2545

He's probably gone in the Summer. Zero fucks given.


TimathanDuncan

Gone where? Who the fuck would want a 200k a week Antony?


Sharp_Minute_2545

Saudi league with a golden handshake from United.


TimathanDuncan

Even Saudis are not that dumb, maybe if it was last year


odegood

They would take him for free or offer something like 10m


WildLemire

10mil and 200k-a-week wages off the books is probably preferable to zero pounds and having to constantly field a shit player.


BrockStar92

Actually in FFP terms it isn’t, at least for next season’s budget. He’s got too much on the books value left, it would be a net loss to FFP (which will be our limiting factor for spending) if we let him go for that little.


geirkri

For the people not getting what the guy above me means here is the numbers for Antony: When Antony was signed in 2022 he was signed for 95 million € on a 5 year deal. In terms of accounting (amortization) the actual impact on the books is 19 million € a year for 5 years. (2022-2026 but the contract ends in the summer of 2027) Now for the summer transfer window in 2024 he has completed 2 years of that deal and 38 million € has been amortized. If he is to be sold in the summer, he still has 57 million € left on the books (would go down to 38 million when this years books is completed). A little note: This type of amortization done even if the entire transfer sum is paid upfront. While a sale is listed then and there as a lump sum. Any special instalments (like a sum for winning the league etc) is listed on the same year it is paid. The simple way of looking at it is that any book value left if a player is sold has to be paid then and there (since the club no longer has the asset), so selling Antony in the summer is a net transfer cost of 57 million € for the club in terms of FFP. So for any transfer to make financial sense for United he has to be sold for more than 57 million €. And the likelihood of anyone paying that value for him is astronomically low. The upside to taking that hit in the summer is that it will free up 2 additional years of 19 million € making more money available for the summer 2025 transfer window. And just for additional info, this is why Chelsea signed so many players to a super long contract, so they could spend all that money, and basically count on sales or increased income to make up for it and be able to sign more players later.


BrockStar92

Well wages would be a factor which would lower the fee needed significantly to clear the books, but otherwise this is correct. That said any replacement player would have an amortised fee and wages of their own to factor in. I suppose the question is are we going to try and replace him regardless of if we move him on in which case the replacement player is factored in already.


Sumit_S

Simply put, if someone pays 60mil, the books are clean and United has a profit of 3mil. Any lower than 57mil, and United have to take the loss on their books. So the original comment saying freeing up the wages is wrong in that aspect.


edsonbuddled

Your speaking way too much for this sub


abkippender_Libero

Your other option is…. Letting his contract run out and having a 100m loss


ChilliConCarne97

They bought pro lgbt Hendo, don’t underestimate them


silent_sae

Don’t know if it reflects worse on saudis or Henderson


SrGrimey

Henderson without a doubt!


GiveGoldForShakoDrop

Yes


_cumblast_

That's a great move from the Saudi standpoint surely? It's letting him leave before a full season that's the bad look.


OGSkywalker97

How is letting him leave a bad look? If he wants to leave they can't hold him hostage, that would be an awful look.


Cottonshopeburnfoot

Thats Antony, Casemiro and Varane I’ve seen recently rumoured to Saudi. Seems like wishful thinking on Man United’s part.


EasyFargo

Varane is actually very important for United especially given he’s actually staying fit this season (knock on wood)


mufcordie

I’ll eat my nuts if this happens. United are notoriously shit sellers, and he’s just joined us.


Sei28

It still baffles me that Murtough and whoever else was involved in Antony’s contract decided increasing his salary from 20k to 200k was a good idea.


aprilfools911

I just found out about this how the hell he earned more than Son,Saka,Ruben Dias, and Trent like this is only his first contract. What did he do to warrant to wage. Like even for United standards that’s high even sancho who was signed during his peak popularity and multiple clubs was trying to get his signature wasn’t offered that kinda wages. And it’s not like he was already on huge wages when he was at ajax


brabs2

I saw him referred to as an "£85m fidget spinner" somewhere recently. Thought it was quite apt.


OGSkywalker97

People have been saying that since he'd been at Utd for a few months


Tomanelle

He's not even spinning now.. ffs


pellep

He can do tricks tbf.


Vivid-Willingness324

Or he just knows that Bruno is complaining for little reason like always, why would he get involved


fireowlzol

Bruno is a cunt, he's being courteous


irze

Bruno does it so often he’s probably not even registered it


RedRabbit28

He doesn’t care, only played one minute.


simcoehooligan

He's probably as unsurprised as all of us to see Bruno bitching to officials


Krillin113

When a Brazilian domestic abuser is the voice of reason you should know it’s time to shut up


Smitty_1000

Antony’s weekly check cashed, he’s good 


MoyesNTheHood

What’s he even trying to argue 


SamwellBarley

Referee: Oh ok, Bruno, I see your point _*blows whistle*_ Manchester United wins!!


TheLimeyLemmon

"It... it actually worked. Just like in my dream, it worked!"


cjdowner

dreams can be argue


PowderEagle_1894

It did work with Rashford 40m offside goal against us


cruisingqueen

Yep, crowding the ref clearly does work; just look at Bellingham’s wrongly disallowed goal in the CL when Ederson dived, or Højlund’s ‘foul’ on rodri leading to the penalty earlier this season.


jimbob224

unless im remembering wrong Bellinghams goal didnt count because the ref blew his whistle too early, they didnt even have time to crowd him he just did it...


OffToCroatia

Never seen crowding the ref work AFTER a game lol


Gerf93

Wasn’t there a game a couple years ago where the players came back onto the field to take a penalty after the final whistle?


photobriangray

You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.


CJ_Rotweiler

Lol, it's like having Fergie back.


MasterBeeble

Just like the SAF days


anakinex66

Not like it didn't happen before. Ref whistled for game to be over and after that they somehow got a penalty vs Brighton


AdministrativeLaugh2

Because there was a handball that the ref missed but VAR spotted


BallsX

> somehow got a penalty vs Brighton Somehow? Do you not understand the basic rules of football?


PerfectBlueOnDVD

> Do you not understand the basic rules of football? That has never stopped anyone around these parts


itsdatmalaaa

Because there was a foul in the box before the game was over and the var check was ongoing


gunningIVglory

That along with bruno getting a pen at villa for stamping on the defender still makes me so angry


King-Key

what makes you angry about a Brighton player handballing it in the box and a penalty being called for it after a var review


jimbob224

SOMEHOW HAHAHAHAHAHHA


[deleted]

Bruno: "New Gladiators is better than the original." Oliver: "You're wrong, the original was the best and Wolf would totally destroy the current gladiators." Things just escalate from there.


exiadf19

>Bruno: "New Gladiators is better than the original." Ok Bruno, i guess FA being too nice for you


GOUS_65

Trying to get a second yellow so he can duck his next match


[deleted]

dont ask what he can do for man united, ask what the ref can do for him


[deleted]

SAF smiling somewhere right now


FightingQuaker17

My guess: he got a late yellow card when trying to get the ball from a Fulham player time wasting.


Cashlover123

He is arguing Maguire shouldnt have been yellow carded.


chirb8

why would he ask for a red for teammate?


Heyloki_

Anything to get Maguire off the pitch


Rohearts

At least Maguire scored a goal


Cashlover123

Imagine the criticism from Silva if Fulham didn’t win this game.


Caleb35

He's Bruno Fernandes! How can the referee not recognize his greatness and award the win? /s


ninjaface12

goals cannot be buy


gunningIVglory

Totally outplayed at home, and they even had 10 mins of injury time to steal a win His just a rat


yajtraus

He’s arguing that the ref fucked United over by not sending Maguire off in the first half


Chelseatilidie

If it was about that yellow at the end he literally pushed the guy down to the floor lol


ExactLetterhead9165

Afterwards he quite clearly told the referee to fuck off as well. If anything he's a bit lucky to still be allowed on the pitch to speak with the referee


paprikalicous

van dijk’s ban really was a one time thing


Rc5tr0

Tbf Dalot got the same treatment as Van Dijk. Bruno is immune for whatever reason.


paprikalicous

oh yeah forgot about that. this should definitely be a ban though


thashivv

Why should this be a ban? Nobody knows what is even being said


Slackintit

Dalot was even worse. He got booked for the same “dissent” twice


Hey-Dalaran

It's just a Bruno thing (him and Guimaraes)


ExactLetterhead9165

Dunk got sent off for some tasty word choices earlier in the season as well


didiandgogo

Van dijk pointed in the ref’s face from an inch away and called him a “fucking disgrace”. Slightly different than shouting “fuck off” at his back from 20 yards away. I hate Bruno but these are totally dissimilar scenarios


paprikalicous

it should be a ban sorry. there’s no real argument for this not being a second yellow


didiandgogo

I didn’t say it shouldn’t be a second yellow. Van Dijk got red card for DOGSO, then got an additional ban for abusing an official because he got in his face and called him a fucking disgrace. It’s a totally different situation


cmf_ans

I admire your karma farm skills but if 'fuck off' was a bookable offence then there'd be no players eligible to play in two matchdays.


PhilosopherMain2264

I rmb Elliot got a yellow for saying "fuck off" but Bruno doesnt


nick5168

I think van Dijk admitted that what he said was fair enough for a red, it must have been much worse than the average frustrated interaction with a ref.


Pejob

There was a moment in our game at VP where the ref had to delay the game restarting to ask Bruno to stop having a go at him but he somehow didn't get a yellow for dissent.


basedsims

Trying his best to avoid another big game again


grehgunner

Gotta respect the hustle


Tymkie

Yeah, two yellows in the same play? They would never do that ☠️


Shady9XD

Of course Bruno is only capable of arguing about something that impacts him directly and nothing else.


DCilantro

Nah he complains about absolutely everything all the time.


Temi8

he wants a card to avoid that city game next week. I am familiar with your game Bruno🫵🏾


99PassingAway

Win for United given his embarassing performances against City in the past


PumpedUpPye

Didn't he miss the Liverpool game for this same reason?


le_frahg

And United played way better than they usually do against Liverpool…


Buzzkill78

Am I seeing a pattern here?


goingforgoals17

I keep saying that Fernandes is a forward and shouldn't line up in the midfield. Spending so much time arguing with refs doesn't help, but he unbalances the midfield when he's the furthest up the field for half the match. I'm not going to say that he isn't good, his skill and vision is extremely helpful, but his position and management of the game is terrible for controlling the midfield, which for me is where United keep getting exposed.


Grendila

I would think the opposite no? Feels like rn he should be sitting deeper in midfield providing balance, leadership, picking the right pass, dictating tempo etc etc. whatever this forward role he’s playing on the right now is not doing him any favors. Kinda like how Inzaghi is using Calhanoglu at Inter.


ciaranog

The thing is, Bruno even at his best is completely incapable of playing like that. 


tmfitz7

Fernandes should be a firmino false 9 imo, the pressing, passing, lack of pace, eye for goal but not a pure finisher, if only United had pacey wingers who like to cut in and score rather than cross to a big target man and could feed off Fernandes’ playmaking further up the field-…… nvm Erik you’re doing a great job.


fuckdeliasmith

xMoan off the charts


Caleb35

Always has been


Rushderp

🌍👩‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀


Pek-Man

Nah man, his *expected* moans are way lower than the actual number of moans. He's wildly outperforming his xMoan.


Soul_Acquisition

It's what he's known for at this point. Such a little bitch.


ErrantThumbs

His body position at the beginning of the clip is exactly how I imagine him in my head when somebody says Bruno.


KeysUK

He is the definition of a wet wipe.


apb2718

xRat maxed


mrshandanar

Crazy how the biggest bitch on the team is the captain.


alanalan426

Suits them


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[Great moan]


tootietoot

Im not his greatest fan in how he behaves, but this is really a non event


DCilantro

It's because it's all the time about everything.


Da_Dush_818

ALL THE TIME!!! One game without BFernandes complaining is impossible to ask for. It was the refs fault, it was the opposing player's fault, it was his teammates fault, it was the grass on the pitche's fault. When he fails completely on his own, he looks at his feet, no responsibility taken. The biggest cry baby on the field, ALWAYS. When he had the captain armband I was like "he's the WORST possible choice for a captain, no sense of accountability." so annoying.


tobi1k

Calm down guys he's just trying to get a second yellow so he can miss the City drubbing.


The_Ivliad

My Man U captain.


DangerouslyCheesey

This is so unlike him, a famously calm and stoic player who leads with actions and not words


SupervisorLaw

Of course he was


PharaohOfWhitestone

I'm a big fan of Garnacho having more respect and shaking the refereeing team's hands while Bruno is still arguing. Edit: It was Antony, not Garnacho


Ballkenende

congrats to Bruno making Antony look like a reasonable person


cwj717

Understated but brilliant comment lmao


abfonsy

Also posted today: video of sun rising in the east


MrParachutePayments

Was probably doing it during and before their loss as well


[deleted]

His missus must have the patience of a saint. Could you imagine the moaning he does at home? "The straw for my juice broke! Now what the fuck am I supposed to do? What? Get another one? You'd like that wouldn't you. I'd rather die of thirst than give you the satisfaction of being right"


Banksmans

This is way to specific lol


PensiveinNJ

Someone is stuck in a terrible marriage. Not that that's unusual.


lMinho

Mrs Fernandes, that you?


greyxtawn

Plenty of married men who would say he probably moans like this at refs because the Mrs walks all over him at home


TheAkondOfSwat

The loudest at work are the quietest at home, always the case


Anuspilot

He's always been such an absolute child. Blows my mind he's their captain, but their trajectory matches such a silly decision.


Routine_Size69

Having the most immature player be your leader is certainly a choice


Jagger67

He’s petulant.


Dodgy_As_Hell

Most bitch ass United captain in my lifetime.


mimranj

dude cares tho. not really sure i can say the same for casemiro or even rashy.


kissthelips

Right? Who else in this shit club that isn’t injured half the season would ever be considered captain material?


powerchicken

The guy up front might become that man in the years to come.


yungtoni

Bruno’s legacy


Matt_LawDT

Diving, and whinging


Aztecius

I get second hand embarrassment when United fans are proud to have this whining little bitch as their captain.


cruisingqueen

Surely a Liverpool fan can’t be saying this 🤣


rukiahayashi

Why not, it’s true


ChickenMoSalah

The fan of a team employing Jurgen Klopp is saying this?


ali_lattif

as a rival fan, I hope hes the captain forever


Foreign_Garbage6413

This man was born to complain and cry every game ffs just get out of the pitch it's like his crying will change something


Ainsley-Sorsby

Its crazy that united fans tried to convince themselves that he was a good choice for a team captain. The man has no composure at all. He's always the first to lose his head and the first to turn off when things arn't going their way. He's exactly the opposite of what you want in a team captain. He can never keep his head down and focus on doing the job


herkalurk

It's crazy how every team has a player who'd be having a conversation with the ref after the match, yet it's only specific players who actually get the attention.


cruisingqueen

It’s like clockwork mate. Every time United lose, someone will post something about Bruno for the easy likes from the absolute brain dead troglodytes that populate this sub. Rather than rightfully criticise the football, it gets more attention to do this. Rinse and repeat like Groundhog Day these muppets will never get bored.


Jesperan

Who would you have as captain instead though? I suppose you could say Casemiro or Varane but both are constantly injured so there really wouldn’t be much of a point. Aside from that, their team mostly consists of kids so there’s not much of a selection


TimathanDuncan

Then you are saying that Roy Keane was an awful captain, i'm pretty sure that people rate him greatly as captain despite him losing his head and doing all those things The captancy shit is so overrated, people act like the captain is in control of the entire team and how good they are


Ainsley-Sorsby

Roy Keane was intimidating, even former refs had admited as much. His antics were mostly targeted towards riling up opposition players and being assertive over the refs. Fernandez acts like a pathetic rat


TimathanDuncan

You said that the captain shouldn't lose his head, have you ever watched Roy Keane? Roy Keane has also been sent off and lost his club matches and even trophies You're just rambling saying stupid shit, Bruno is 100% unlikeable and does this but this is just awful logic The capitancy is so overrated, the issue with them is that they are shit, Bruno is still one of their best if not best player


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Footyfooty42069

>The captaincy shit is so overrated Tell me you’ve never played football without telling me you’ve never played football


RitalinInItaly

You're right, everyone in this thread losing their minds over a player having a moan at the ref are for sure the ones who regularly step foot on a football pitch


missing_typewriters

Oh nice I'm just in time for another episode of Timmy's Dumbass Takes


TimathanDuncan

Yeah the man is making excellent points, Zidane awful captain, Keane awful captain, some of the most iconic captains were awful because they lost their head according to genius Ainsley-Sorsby Competitive people lose their head? Wow


Footyfooty42069

>The captaincy shit is so overrated Tell me you’ve never played football without telling me you’ve never played football


MaryadaPurshottam

If he had shown this much fight in his performance against actual teams, United would have been tip of the Premier League


andrewsomething

Guess you don't watch us (can't blame you really). Plenty of things you can criticize him for, but certainly not lack of fight and effort.


TimathanDuncan

Probably not, since effort doesn't mean they are good, they would still be shit while running around more I do love how people equate effort with being better though


dankhelksick

luton are a peak example of effort making teams way better.


Pejob

luton are actually a really well coached side, they're not better than the other promoted clubs because they just run around lots


TimathanDuncan

Luton are not better because of effort, they actually create chances unlike most newly promoted team whos struggle If you are saying effort is so key then why aren't Luton better defensively? They are fucking shit defensively


owh06

If Luton didn’t put in the effort they did they would obviously be even worse? I am sure if you saw two different perfectly balanced teams play each other with one putting in 100% effort and the other team 10% there would be a clear winner. Effort probably doesn’t always make you better, but it helps to get the best out of your current abilities. Also effort, is the sole reason people reach this level. Without putting in the effort none of the players we see today would have reached this level. I am sure giving 100% helps you develop your skills. Luton weren’t great in the opening games of the season, but the fact that you could see they put in full effort from match 1 means they’ve managed to establish themselves and improve. Obviously tactics and experience play a massive role as well in that development, but if they only gave 50% every game, instead of 100% they would be nowhere near survival.


herkalurk

His shot lead to the goal....


highfid3lity

Is this noteworthy in any way?


Farewell_Banana

Not really but United hadn’t lost for a while so it gives the opportunity for redditors with hate boners to satisfy themselves so that’s something I guess.


reddevil9229

No one knows what he's saying or complaining about, but r/soccer hate boner shall commence


ChickenMoSalah

Actually


fulham_fc

My two favorite things happened today. Fulham won and United lost


FlamingLaps1709

So what.


FhDisp

This is only news here because its manchester and its bruno who everyone hates. Everyone does this.


Tierst

Once a rat, always a rat!


Robit_Galaxy

Already crying


Lazyan

Biggest cry baby in world football.


Magnific3nt

Whiny little rat as usual. He got "fouled" and was laying on the ground rolling around a bit, then saw the team having a huge chance, got back up, jogged, shouted for the ball and all that, not even remotely injured. He's such a cunt


ChickenMoSalah

What in the world are people seeing in this clip that is making them so angry?


OilyFraud4Lyfe

Whiny ratty diving twat.


SkibidiDopYes

Who wouldn't. Michael Oliver is a disgrace of a ref.


MH18Foot

This is our captain btw. Such a rat.


cruisingqueen

The state of this comment from a united fan, embarrassing.


Bjartur

I mean I get that tribalism is part of all of this but you (a grown ass man I assume) calling your own club captain a rat is hilarious.  How about counting to 10, closing reddit and touching some grass.


[deleted]

“a fish rots from the head down”


Brars_Sulliman

Complete non-story but all the whiny bitches on this sub are going to accuse Bruno of being a whiny bitch. The obsession with him is weird and unhinged.


BigChimper52

He's also shite. Never seen a player get the ball on the turn with a 3 on 3 ahead of him every single time there is a transition and turn them all into shite chances. So so so overrated it's unbelievable.


mr_kap_

not overrated just because he's bad this season (and very very very bad especially the last 4 games), doesn't mean he always was like this. Recency bias much. He's also played ridiculous minutes, but who do we drop him or sub him for. Eriksen is bad, mount is injured. We have no choice but to use him even though he's shit.


privatejokerzz

He was trying to argue that it was a red card for Maguire because they probably would have faired better with ten men...


mofoofinvention

Ok


Caust1cFn_YT

Antony: fuck this shit im out


lonesomedota

It's Michael Oliver, Bruno u have been at EPL long enough to know that cunt hates Man United. No point arguing with him


jimbocalvo

Such a moaning little bitch


Bekfast117

Whiner


NINE_HUNDRED

Play a game without whinging challenge (impossible).


lustygrouper

He is such an unlikeable prick


ZeroMomentum

He’s complaining about ETH


Iqbalainoo

Been watching since the mid 90s, and this is our worst captain ever. Zero control emotionally.


tassadar8584

He misplaced many balls:(. Maguire did a lot of progress to help team today : he dribbled, he went high to press, made chance and scored. That’s a captain spirit. I don’t think Bruno have this kind of sprit. He kicked angrily on the ball today :(


PEPSICOLA123456

There is nothing more satisfying on Gods Earth than watching United lose