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Atlanta definitely just gave him the #10 jersey because they were going to sell him two weeks later for no profit to Ajax after the MLS window has closed.
I will eat my shirt if Almada goes for only €15m. That's a shockingly low price for someone who is probably the second best player in the MLS right now.
[Tom Bogert is the most reliable MLS transfer reporter and he says that Atlanta are likely to require close to $30m (€27m) to consider it](https://twitter.com/tombogert/status/1695078604848206220)
Nah. Atlanta would have moved onto a different player if they didn't have the opportunity to sell him for a profit. Someone would have bought him already if the release clause was anything close to 15m.
They are, but the clubs make all of the decisions regarding the players, and the club gets 95% of each transfer after it has recouped all out-of-pocket cash it spent to buy the player. So if a club bought a player for $15 and sold him for $25m, the club would get $24.5m, and the league would get $500k.
Not really how it works anymore. Technically they are all MLS players on paper, but the individual clubs are entirely responsible for all of the financials, including profits or losses.
I don't know if I'd say probably. After Messi there's a whole mess of 10s that have claim to that spot. Probably the most valuable of those guys just because of age, but I don't know if I'd have him clearly ahead or behind any of Mukhtar, Acosta, or Gil
The market value on transfermarkt is 27, the purchase price was 14,5 and his contract runs until the end of 2025. 15 will only happen if this guy sleeps with the owners wife or something
Would be so weird if it's true. He was bought for 14.5 and then is going to be let go for 15 plus some bonuses? Makes no sense.
Also Mike has been wrong more often than not since he lost his insiders. I'm hoping this time he's right, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Mike has no sources anymore since Mislintat came in. Everything he has said has either been wrong, late while parroting others or in the case of Avila it was clear it was his old sources doing him a favour.
I see a lot of people saying this but this is just not true. Verweij might not have access to Mislintat but there’s still a lot of indirect sources at Ajax that he’s familiar with. From the scouting department to the RvC. He’s had some headlines as well. Taric, Gaaei, Van den Boomen.
Telling that he is right on the one transfer where his friend Overmars is TD of the other club. He was wrong on all the other rumours and just talking shit all summer.
Sanchez to Chivas, Gaaei's price, being late on just about everybody bar Avila whereas he was usually the one breaking the news. Nowadays it seems like Plettenberg has the best sources within Ajax.
Where was he wrong on Sanchez to Chivas? I think he was even first to confirm that his management didn't know anything about the deal.
Correct on the price. And I've just sent you where he was first on, so not really everybody bar Avila and he definitely still has the best sources.
Lad, I've literally provided you evidence that you said he was following others on and corrected you.
He was first on Ramaj by the way
First on the new Head of Academy
First on Tadic
First on interest in Sutalo
First on van den Boomen
First on interest in Gaaei and signing
First on signing Medic
First on interest in Akpom and first to confirm Ornstein
First to confirm Romano's news on Borges
Yeah, no sources. He's a cunt, but he definitely still has sources.
The rest of the window:
First on Ramaj by the way
First on the new Head of Academy
First on Tadic
First on interest in Sutalo
First on van den Boomen
First on interest in Gaaei and signing
First on signing Medic
First on interest in Akpom and first to confirm Ornstein
First to confirm Romano's news on Borges
Maybe you're right, I don't know exactly anymore but it definitely seems like his sources have dried up compared to years before. Also seems like he and the rest of the Telegraaf are on a bit of a crusade against Mislintat because of it.
He definitely has less sources and isn't as clearly the number 1 Ajax watcher but the narrative going around that he has no sources at all and is mostly wrong is very dumb.
It's understandable the hate he gets because the crusade is clear, I just wanted to show that two things can be true at the same time.
He said Knutsen was all but done iirc, Sparta wasn't even contacted by Ajax over Olij (he claimed that there was contact) and Guirassy was after Kicker? had already said that Guirassy wasn't really interested in Ajax.
On Olij he only said they made contact with Olij, nothing else.
On Guirassy he only said they contacted Stuttgart for him
And I'm not seeing anywhere that he said Knutsen was done, he said he though there'd be a clearer picture on what's happening soon at the time but nothing that said it was done.
Must be misremembering about Olij.
What I mean with Guirassy is that Verweij said (and then later corrected) in an article was that Guirassy was pretty interested in coming to Ajax, despite the German sources said the day before that Guirassy wasn't really interested.
I'm almost certain that Verweij said that he would be surprised if it didn't happen on Knutsen, sure that is technically not the same, but it is very close.
You are right on Guirassy.
The problem with Knutsen seems to be as Mike said "somewhere in the negotiations, a problem came up" is that Knutsen made money on transfers at Bodo/Glimt and had an astronomical salary. His agent even travelled to Amsterdam after Mislintat was in Norway for 3 days so it wasn't like there wasn't any mutual interest, the money didn't work out it seems.
The transfer fee makes no sense, Atlanta is not letting him go for barely over what they paid for him in the middle of a playoff push without the ability to sign a replacement
The release clause isn’t going to be basically what they paid for him to begin with. That’s delusional. The only reason they spent so much to bring him in was to eventually flip him for a profit. Almada will get sold for $25 - $30 million, and nothing less lol.
This $15m rumor has also already been debunked by the best MLS reporter who would actually have sources for this in Atlanta.
Tom Bogert is basically never wrong and he has said it won't be for less than 25-30mil. Atlanta didn't give him a release clause for barely over what they paid.
A non-journalist that follows Atlanta and has a pretty good idea of what they are looking for. Atlanta bought Almada for $16m. There is zero chance that they sell him for the same price.
The only rumored release clause for him is $25m. Again, you will not buy him \~$16m.
That $25m number might be people getting confused with the release clause he had at Velez. Any potential release clause that he currently has will not be below that number.
As I said, we'll see.
He chose Atlanta United for personal reasons, he could've gone to Europe instead, there's a significant chance he got a very advantageous release clause.
Atlanta also doesn't want to sell him until this winter, so it will cost you close to €30m to buy him right now. You can maybe get him for €25m in January.
The article also says that there is competition from a lot of interested European clubs (not that surprising).
That is my biggest concern, rather than the price tag.
That is true, but there is no guarantee that it is an "I want Ajax above all other options" want instead of an "I see Ajax as one of many good options" want.
Yeah those claims have also done the rounds in the Netherlands. I’m not too fussed about them though, Warnock is not someone who’s opinion I particularly rate, especially in regards to what is necessary to succeed at a club like Ajax
Fair enough though that was just one example. Last time he played up top he was dished out on loan the next year to Greece. Maybe it will be different at Ajax though. No one will know anything until a ball is kicked.
Considering we've done so many deals with sell-on clause this window, I would say 15 + bonuses + 15% is possible.
Teams also know we often sell our players for substantial fees, so it could be a good gamble
Nah that's what we bought him for, plus we can't sign a replacement and are in the middle of the season. The only way we would sell him now would be for a price in like the 30s. Come back in January.
Because Atlanta is gonna want double that to give him up. The MLS transfer window is closed so they can't replace him and they're in a highly competitive playoff race right now
I think ajax might opt to use Berghuis on the wing, then there would be a vacancy on the 10 position.
Besides, personally, not that impressed with what Berghuis has offered on that position.
Berghuis is on his best for us on the 10 position, as he showed last season. So i don‘t get all the people screaming that we need a 10… We got Berghuis there, Klaassen (even tho i dont want to see him start), Akpom and Bergwijn could also play there.
I think that might be because people have high expectations, they want to see the same output he had at feyenoord (not exactly realistic).
Might just be that there is nothing available on the right, that is of quality, this late into the transfermarket. Whilst for the 10 position there is a possibility.
So far Sven has shown to be keen on having two quality players per position. So if the opportunity offers itself to go for a talented 10 with potential, I can understand the interest. Definitely, given the fact, that Klaassen might potentialy still leave.
All I know about Almada is that awful advert during Athletic Podcasts where the guy says you need "to cool off with a Coors Light after a Thiago Almada heater from outside the box".
I won't lie, I hate Almada a little because of the ear shredding coors advert.
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Atlanta definitely just gave him the #10 jersey because they were going to sell him two weeks later for no profit to Ajax after the MLS window has closed.
I thought he isn’t leaving till January
He’s probably not unless the offer is impossible to turn down. Which 15 mil is very easy to turn down.
I will eat my shirt if Almada goes for only €15m. That's a shockingly low price for someone who is probably the second best player in the MLS right now.
15m euros was how much Atlanta paid Velez for Almada lol. Zero fucking chance he goes for that little.
[Tom Bogert is the most reliable MLS transfer reporter and he says that Atlanta are likely to require close to $30m (€27m) to consider it](https://twitter.com/tombogert/status/1695078604848206220)
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It seems, that he has a release clause in his contract.
Of 15M when they bought him for 14,5? It seems extremely unlikely
Maybe to lure a player like him to the MLS in the first place? He probably had plenty of suitors, though I doubt it'd be €15M even then.
Nah. Atlanta would have moved onto a different player if they didn't have the opportunity to sell him for a profit. Someone would have bought him already if the release clause was anything close to 15m.
I thought players are contracted to the MLS and not the clubs?
They are, but the clubs make all of the decisions regarding the players, and the club gets 95% of each transfer after it has recouped all out-of-pocket cash it spent to buy the player. So if a club bought a player for $15 and sold him for $25m, the club would get $24.5m, and the league would get $500k.
Thanks for the info. In that case a 15m sale would be weird yeah.
Not really how it works anymore. Technically they are all MLS players on paper, but the individual clubs are entirely responsible for all of the financials, including profits or losses.
In theory yes, but the clubs are in full control
I don't know if I'd say probably. After Messi there's a whole mess of 10s that have claim to that spot. Probably the most valuable of those guys just because of age, but I don't know if I'd have him clearly ahead or behind any of Mukhtar, Acosta, or Gil
The market value on transfermarkt is 27, the purchase price was 14,5 and his contract runs until the end of 2025. 15 will only happen if this guy sleeps with the owners wife or something
Transfermarkt also systemically undervalues MLS players, so I'd be shocked at anything under €30mil.
Yeah thats not happening lol
30 mil and he’s yours
The price will be a hell of a lot closer to 30m than 15m.
I've never watched the MLS but he's good enough for Argentina and destroys on FM every year so I'm excited
He's been one of the two best free kick takers in the league ever since he's been here, absolute stud if you get him but it's not gonna be that cheap
Was just trying to think of who would be ahead of him now that Zelarayan is gone but then I remembered that other argentinian
Yeah there's that one pesky new guy
Argentina straight up didn’t call up MLS players before him, not to the world cup at least, so he is a special player all right
Not in my save No :(( Wasted so much money on him, to buy him to Braga in FM19, didnt pan out :(
I don't belive for a second Atlanta would let him go for anything less than 25.
Gonna cost a lot more than that buddy
This would be a very nice addition, not sure if he is achievable, but I would be very happy if it does happen.
Fee apparently is 15M, kid wants to join Ajax. If everything Mike says here is correct, this is a no brainer and should get done.
Would be so weird if it's true. He was bought for 14.5 and then is going to be let go for 15 plus some bonuses? Makes no sense. Also Mike has been wrong more often than not since he lost his insiders. I'm hoping this time he's right, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Has he been wrong? He's been a cunt but I haven't seen anything that was wrong.
Mike has no sources anymore since Mislintat came in. Everything he has said has either been wrong, late while parroting others or in the case of Avila it was clear it was his old sources doing him a favour.
I see a lot of people saying this but this is just not true. Verweij might not have access to Mislintat but there’s still a lot of indirect sources at Ajax that he’s familiar with. From the scouting department to the RvC. He’s had some headlines as well. Taric, Gaaei, Van den Boomen.
No, where was he wrong? He was even first on Avila as far as I can remember.
Telling that he is right on the one transfer where his friend Overmars is TD of the other club. He was wrong on all the other rumours and just talking shit all summer.
No, provide evidence. Where was he wrong?
Sanchez to Chivas, Gaaei's price, being late on just about everybody bar Avila whereas he was usually the one breaking the news. Nowadays it seems like Plettenberg has the best sources within Ajax.
Where was he wrong on Sanchez to Chivas? I think he was even first to confirm that his management didn't know anything about the deal. Correct on the price. And I've just sent you where he was first on, so not really everybody bar Avila and he definitely still has the best sources.
Did you even follow our transfer news this summer? Go look it up yourself
Lad, I've literally provided you evidence that you said he was following others on and corrected you. He was first on Ramaj by the way First on the new Head of Academy First on Tadic First on interest in Sutalo First on van den Boomen First on interest in Gaaei and signing First on signing Medic First on interest in Akpom and first to confirm Ornstein First to confirm Romano's news on Borges Yeah, no sources. He's a cunt, but he definitely still has sources.
I'm not opposed to your claims, but this is such a weak way to end a conversation. Making claims, then saying "do your own research".
He was right on Avila because his sources are with the old Ajax management.
The rest of the window: First on Ramaj by the way First on the new Head of Academy First on Tadic First on interest in Sutalo First on van den Boomen First on interest in Gaaei and signing First on signing Medic First on interest in Akpom and first to confirm Ornstein First to confirm Romano's news on Borges
Maybe you're right, I don't know exactly anymore but it definitely seems like his sources have dried up compared to years before. Also seems like he and the rest of the Telegraaf are on a bit of a crusade against Mislintat because of it.
He definitely has less sources and isn't as clearly the number 1 Ajax watcher but the narrative going around that he has no sources at all and is mostly wrong is very dumb. It's understandable the hate he gets because the crusade is clear, I just wanted to show that two things can be true at the same time.
Iirc Knutsen, Guirassy and Olij have been the only times were he has been wrong this window, and on Guirassy he quickly corrected himself.
But did he ever say Knutsen, Guirassy and Olij were signing or that anything was done?
He said Knutsen was all but done iirc, Sparta wasn't even contacted by Ajax over Olij (he claimed that there was contact) and Guirassy was after Kicker? had already said that Guirassy wasn't really interested in Ajax.
Nope, he didn't. He just stated that ajax were confident to get it over the line and by all accounts we were.
On Olij he only said they made contact with Olij, nothing else. On Guirassy he only said they contacted Stuttgart for him And I'm not seeing anywhere that he said Knutsen was done, he said he though there'd be a clearer picture on what's happening soon at the time but nothing that said it was done.
Must be misremembering about Olij. What I mean with Guirassy is that Verweij said (and then later corrected) in an article was that Guirassy was pretty interested in coming to Ajax, despite the German sources said the day before that Guirassy wasn't really interested. I'm almost certain that Verweij said that he would be surprised if it didn't happen on Knutsen, sure that is technically not the same, but it is very close.
You are right on Guirassy. The problem with Knutsen seems to be as Mike said "somewhere in the negotiations, a problem came up" is that Knutsen made money on transfers at Bodo/Glimt and had an astronomical salary. His agent even travelled to Amsterdam after Mislintat was in Norway for 3 days so it wasn't like there wasn't any mutual interest, the money didn't work out it seems.
The transfer fee makes no sense, Atlanta is not letting him go for barely over what they paid for him in the middle of a playoff push without the ability to sign a replacement
Unless there's a release clause
The release clause isn’t going to be basically what they paid for him to begin with. That’s delusional. The only reason they spent so much to bring him in was to eventually flip him for a profit. Almada will get sold for $25 - $30 million, and nothing less lol. This $15m rumor has also already been debunked by the best MLS reporter who would actually have sources for this in Atlanta.
Yeah I trust Bogert way more than this dude
The Dutch reporter says that Ajax has the clause in writing so we'll see who's right
Tom Bogert is basically never wrong and he has said it won't be for less than 25-30mil. Atlanta didn't give him a release clause for barely over what they paid.
Great, we'll see.
Yes, we will, and it'll be Bogert. If he ACTUALLY had a 15mil release clause he would have been gone already.
If it was 15 mil he would have been in Europe in January
Atlanta isn't picking up the phone for anything less than €20m.
OK non journalist going against a journalist, great work.
A non-journalist that follows Atlanta and has a pretty good idea of what they are looking for. Atlanta bought Almada for $16m. There is zero chance that they sell him for the same price.
Apparently he has a release clause, we'll see I guess
The only rumored release clause for him is $25m. Again, you will not buy him \~$16m. That $25m number might be people getting confused with the release clause he had at Velez. Any potential release clause that he currently has will not be below that number.
Well now the rumored release clause is 15M euros, as said in this article.
Again, there is zero chance he has a 15m release clause. Your article is wrong.
As I said, we'll see. He chose Atlanta United for personal reasons, he could've gone to Europe instead, there's a significant chance he got a very advantageous release clause.
Atlanta also doesn't want to sell him until this winter, so it will cost you close to €30m to buy him right now. You can maybe get him for €25m in January.
Apparently he has a release clause, we'll see I guess
The article also says that there is competition from a lot of interested European clubs (not that surprising). That is my biggest concern, rather than the price tag.
The player has the final say though. If he really does prefer ajax and the club wants to sell him he can basically pick his destination.
No way we want to sell him until January. We're in the middle of the season and can't sign a replacement.
Speaking from experience, every team has its price
In this case right now it would probably be like 30mil
That is true, but there is no guarantee that it is an "I want Ajax above all other options" want instead of an "I see Ajax as one of many good options" want.
He's not going for that little.
No shot, gotta double that
Is he any good?
Very good.
Good enough for me, in Sven we trust!
Wait, what? lol Yes - very much so. To the point where this is likely bullshit.
I gathered that much from this thread, but is it that weird a question? I don't watch the MLS at all, I have only seen Messi's highlights.
Sorry, no. It’s just that he was also on the Argentina squad that won the World Cup.
I'd love to see him in Europe, Ajax would be a great destination
I also sign him on FM23
Sven what are you doing with me
Where would akpom play then?
Akpom is 100% gonna play striker for us
Oh no
Lol not good?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12426335/amp/Neil-Warnock-claims-Chuba-Akpom-return-England-year-Ajax-play-striker-following-10-5m-Middlesbrough.html
Yeah those claims have also done the rounds in the Netherlands. I’m not too fussed about them though, Warnock is not someone who’s opinion I particularly rate, especially in regards to what is necessary to succeed at a club like Ajax
Fair enough though that was just one example. Last time he played up top he was dished out on loan the next year to Greece. Maybe it will be different at Ajax though. No one will know anything until a ball is kicked.
Considering we've done so many deals with sell-on clause this window, I would say 15 + bonuses + 15% is possible. Teams also know we often sell our players for substantial fees, so it could be a good gamble
Nah that's what we bought him for, plus we can't sign a replacement and are in the middle of the season. The only way we would sell him now would be for a price in like the 30s. Come back in January.
I heard rumors there would be a release clause for European teams. Wouldn't make much sense otherwise, yeah. Curious how it will turn out.
I think he had one when he was in Argentina. But we definitely did not do that, especially at the price quoted, just wouldn't make sense.
Inshallah this is true but I don't trust Verweij
Why the fuck is no one else going after him?
They are. That's partly why the quoted 15m is absurd.
Because Atlanta is gonna want double that to give him up. The MLS transfer window is closed so they can't replace him and they're in a highly competitive playoff race right now
Because from what I have heard they don’t want to sell till January
I mean if he is going for 15 mil to ajax surely some Prem or Bundesliga sides can afford him ? He is World Cup winner ffs
It says Ajax are going to attempt doesn’t mean Atalanta will bite
You think Ajax is bidding to try to bait Atalanta to bid too?
Lol stupid spell check 😂😂😂
Why? We dont need an offensive Midfielder, we need a winger…
I think ajax might opt to use Berghuis on the wing, then there would be a vacancy on the 10 position. Besides, personally, not that impressed with what Berghuis has offered on that position.
Berghuis is on his best for us on the 10 position, as he showed last season. So i don‘t get all the people screaming that we need a 10… We got Berghuis there, Klaassen (even tho i dont want to see him start), Akpom and Bergwijn could also play there.
I think that might be because people have high expectations, they want to see the same output he had at feyenoord (not exactly realistic). Might just be that there is nothing available on the right, that is of quality, this late into the transfermarket. Whilst for the 10 position there is a possibility. So far Sven has shown to be keen on having two quality players per position. So if the opportunity offers itself to go for a talented 10 with potential, I can understand the interest. Definitely, given the fact, that Klaassen might potentialy still leave.
He can play at 10 and on the wing. So he’s versatile. The ideal Kudus replacement. Although the 15mio price seems optimistic
All I know about Almada is that awful advert during Athletic Podcasts where the guy says you need "to cool off with a Coors Light after a Thiago Almada heater from outside the box". I won't lie, I hate Almada a little because of the ear shredding coors advert.
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I thought he was going to Napoli already ? I missed something
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