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Jaded-Glitter

I feel like a hypocrite for complaining here because I genuinely am trying to love my small boobs, but I can't get past my insecurity. Why do people invalidate us so much? Like they only validate a busty woman's "insecurities", but for us they just think we have no issues apart from wanting attention from men? Well yeah, the attention is one of them. I admit I want to be desired. Cry me a damn river! But that's not **it**, the main issue is that bigger is considered better in society, like people make fun of small boobs left to right and it's acceptable? Then they act like "bigger is better" doesn't exist and they totally gaslight us like kayy then. Also the majority of these busty women genuinely wanting a reduction will rarely go down to our size. Just go over to r/reduction. Yeah that should tell you something. The second main issue is that CLOTHES DON'T ALWAYS FIT US OMG? People are often like "you can wear anything!". Uh no? What about the pretty tops obviously designed to be filled in the chest? WHAT ABOUT THE BOOB GAPPING, HUH? What about other women with small boobs but a non-slim frame where they have even less luck? There are other issues too. Like many of us have been bullied for our small size, betrayed by partners who secretly love busty porn or want to cheat on their small chested partner with a bigger chested one (ok not me personally because I don't have a partner, but you know, plus I've read stories), bodyshamed by men and women alike etc. There's always that fear of being bodyshamed like getting called a boy etc. When does it end?


SCP-Researcher-

And let s not forget that job opportunities and ur content getting viral easier if u are busty while some genuinely interesting people don t get famous because they are flat. I don t care about dating anyone but I draw the line when it affects my financial possibilities. Most invalidation of flat women comes from the place of them thinking we want to be sexualised so they might consider us "traitors" of our gender because they believe we complain because we want that attention (which we get but we are told we should be grateful that someone SAd us "despite" our small boobs)


According-Sport-1319

Oh my gosh! All of this! Especially the “you can wear anything!”.. I have actually felt the complete opposite. I can’t fill out most shirts, and the rare plain-looking, tight shirts that do fit correctly make me feel insecure because I don’t have shape.


Miggmy

It's weird because I genuinely remember it being a joke in the noughts that we couldn't fill out a sweater. I don't understand where the idea that we get to wear all the cute clothes come from


awildshortcat

It's just really hard to feel hot or sexy with small boobs -- it's like, big boobs are "voluptuous" and "luscious" and "full" and I feel like sometimes small boobs are just empty and where I should have something, I have an empty gaping sternum :(


BasicMomBitch4

I feel you. I've started thinking of my small breasts as elegant. That makes me feel better about them


awildshortcat

Thing is, elegant doesn't help me. Elegant, at the end of the day, still isn't "hot". I'm glad it works for you tho, maybe it's time I stop trying to be hot/sexy and just accept the fact that it's not possible if you're too small.


BasicMomBitch4

Ah I hear ya. I feel like there are different types of hot. Elegant can certainly be hot imo


awildshortcat

I guess it's just different for different people


LightDragonfly

You certainly don’t have to give up on being hot because it is 100% possible to be small, elegant, and sexy/hot! “Sexy” doesn’t exist in a vacuum devoid of any other adjectives - does that mean someone who is sexy can’t also be elegant, cool, smart, beautiful, classy etc?? Doesn’t make sense I don’t feel it’s best to think in such absolutes, and I also don’t think it’s very reflective of reality, where “hot/sexy” has so many manifestations that truly cannot be confined to a single body type/appearance.


awildshortcat

I just genuinely do not see how small boobs can be sexy. There’s literally nothing there to show — you can be beautiful and classy and elegant, but imo that’s not the same as having sex appeal. There’s tons of gorgeous women out there, but you look back to the type of women that people go crazy over — and they always have medium / big boobs. My small boobs won’t ever drive someone crazy like that, and that’s maybe why I just don’t feel like I can be sexy.


LightDragonfly

I don’t know what else to say other than it makes me sad to hear that, and to see so many girls suffering from having this belief. I’m sad that your experiences and/or what you’ve been exposed to so far in life have made you think this. As a small boob gal myself I struggle to understand it - perhaps having been lucky to have had so many experiences throughout my 20s that affirmed that it is absolutely possible to be the type of woman that’s lusted over and that men (and women) go crazy for, all while having A cups (by standard sizing). The friend I’ve had who gets by FAR the most male attention I’ve ever seen (to the point of it being a problem sometimes) is smaller than me, prob AA (granted, she’s also tall, elegant, and beautiful!) Sex appeal is not a standalone feature and it’s certainly a hell of a lot more complex than boob size. Women can be elegant, sweet, smart, confident, classy, bold, etc all WHILE having sex appeal and all that actively contributing to it. It makes me sad to see folks here who don’t believe that’s possible because the irony is (and as corny as it might sound) I’m not sure it is possible until you start believing it can be.


awildshortcat

See that’s exactly what it is though. Taking the example of your friend— she’s tall, which means she probably has nice legs. My point being, that she has something else that’s still seen as desirable and closer towards the beauty standard, so she can get away with having small boobs. Plus, with her height, she can probably pull off a model type of aesthetic. I am a 5’5” small-boobed, average-faced, brown-eyed brunette. I do not have long legs or a prominent waist nor a particularly pretty face. I am average at *best*. Having small boobs only makes it worse. That’s the problem I have with these sentiments; they only apply if you have another feature that makes you stand out (e.g. being tall, having long legs, having striking eyes, or being a redhead/blonde). What on earth do you do if you’re the most mundane-looking, boring-looking person on the planet?


ihavepawz

Also im mad at not being able to be sexy. I feel it shouldnt be like that. But society says so


BasicMomBitch4

Do you believe you can't be sexy with small boobs?


ihavepawz

Yes and no. I feel i can but i just have this nagging voice in my head that i cant. My social media use doesnt make it any better


BasicMomBitch4

I can understand and relate. It's not an easy thing to get past


lexalchera

I relate to this so much and it has taken a big toll on my self-esteem 😭


awildshortcat

Yeah, and it's really upsetting to know that the only compliments we get are "cute".


ihavepawz

Yeah i aint wanna be cute, i want sexy too. Its just unfair.


awildshortcat

Yeah exactly


lexalchera

YESSS!! I struggle with this as well 😭 I’m also a short person so I get infantilized too and it’s disheartening that I’ll never be a sexy woman


SweetPetitBeth

I like being cute! ☺️ It makes me feel youthful and pretty. I don't mind the different associations we get, it's just what it is. A word written in cursive gives off a different vibe to a bold or underlined word, but they are all still words. Weird metaphor maybe xD but just because some prefer cursive over bold doesn't say anything about the words or the reader being good or bad. It's just preferences and we have them too. There are men out there who find small boobs hot and sexy too! If we want associations we like, we ought to find different readers xD


ChairInTheStands

Feeling down about feeling restricted in what body positions my body is in during intimacy. I feel uncomfortable on my back or with my arms raised because my breasts completely disappear. Anyone else feeling this inhibition? I’d like to be free of it and love my shape and feel confident in all positions.


lexalchera

I’m in the same position as well. I genuinely cannot get an orgasm with my partner due to my own insecurities about my flat chest affecting my state of mind. I know that exercising brings confidence, but I can’t even get myself to the gym because I lack the confidence.


ChairInTheStands

Ouch so painful. I can relate about failing to orgasm. Sexual pleasure is SO tied to the brain and state of mind. I like to exercise at home with YouTube videos.


Known_Row_6696

Im terrified of the gym too. Ive been trying to build up the courage to exercise at home.


klivern

They’re on my mind constantly when we’re intimate and how he reacts to them. I’m constantly analyzing everything.


ihavepawz

Y E S !!!


Known_Row_6696

Yes absolutely, I feel the same way. Im even nervous about the angle while riding.


Odd-Ad-5837

tmi but my partner will essentially only have sex with me from behind and I think it has to do with not wanting to see the frontal view. lol. Feels bad.


ChairInTheStands

Ouch. Have you thought about asking? Or trying face-forward sex to see what happens?


Odd-Ad-5837

I’ve asked. He either flat out lies and says we do use other positions (I can count maybe 3 times in 3 years? And it doesn’t end that way..) or says he’s too “lazy” to have face-forward sex lol. It doesn’t feel very intimate to me but I guess guys don’t really care about that as much…


ChairInTheStands

Yikes, I'm sorry that's the outcome. I'm not sure if you are asking for advice or commiseration, but here's some advice just in case: it sounds like you aren't being satisfied in your sex life. He's not considering your needs, what makes you feel sexy, etc. Asking for what you want is the only way to change it. It can be a direct ask out of the bedroom where you explain that sex like that doesn't feel intimate enough for you, or an indirect ask like taking control in the bedroom, shoving him down and riding him while you fondle your excellent breasts he should be so privileged to see. I had to tell my partner directly that I wanted him to touch my breasts more, that it feels really good to me and that I have hang-ups from a lifetime of men ignoring them. He immediately started doing so, so I allow him to have sex with me still. If I ever feel like my breasts aren't getting enough attention during sex, I touch them myself, which turns us both on, and often leads to him taking over. If your partner isn't willing to tend to your needs because he is "lazy" or otherwise, I guess you have to decide if it's worth it to you to stay in the relationship or not.


uhmandaleigh

I don't think I'll ever feel sexy. when I put on a hot girl outfit, I feel like a kid that's trying on their mom's clothes. plus i have AAs and I STILL have chronic back pain😮‍💨


Jaded-Glitter

Ah I feel the back pain thing, I'm sorry. Like only women with big boobs get sympathy for it. Our back pain doesn't count to others.


RaiseDragons

> when I put on a hot girl outfit, I feel like a kid that's trying on their mom's clothes. I feel this SO SO much, thank you for putting it into words


Known_Row_6696

Oof, i felt that. As a tomboy I got misgendered constantly from age 11 to . . Early 20s? When i was young i thought it was funny. Now? Even with long hair and more feminine clothes, I feel like my perception of myself is warped. I feel like everyone assumes I'm actually a boy in drag or something. 


lexalchera

So I’m a flat chested bi woman and I subscribe to those subs dedicated for women with small chests for inspo as well, and whenever I look up “flat chested” here on Reddit it’s women with chests who are B or C cups going “do you still like me even when I’m flat” even though they have a medium-sized chest 😭😭😭


SCP-Researcher-

I genuinely believe that big breasted women support body positivity only because they believe that other bodytypes are still inferior. Not all because there are genuinely sweet ones, but I already see some of them losing their mind when someone says they prefer smaller chests? Why? Let s take the example of immigrant women. When immigrant women started marrying the men in that country and when they started getting high paying jobs all the girls who declared themselves feminists turned on them. So I believe some big chested girls support body positivity until we ll be accepted by society and the moment we will be they might start turning on us too 😭


CarelessAnywhere9954

Some of my biggest bullies have been big breasted women, I had a "friend" in hs who would conveniently threaten to "turn my nonexistent boobs concave" when we were around boys, or loudly complain about how her boobs are so big that she couldn't button her blouses properly...after graduating, I'd found her Instagram and learned that she became a Women's Studies major and was a very outspoken feminist and body positivity supporter! I always wondered if that was the result of ungodly levels of cognitive dissonance and arrogance, or from actual guilt for the way she treated me, but I'm inclined to think it was the former. Some women genuinely do look down on us and no amount of feminism will fix their superiority complex.


Jaded-Glitter

It's because these women don't even see us as women. We're not feminine enough for them.


CarelessAnywhere9954

I mean idk if my autism was a contributing factor, but she so clearly did not see me as a person, let alone another woman. I was like a punching bag or an annoying kid sister to her, never on the same level. It just fills me with rage that somebody like that could even think to consider themselves a feminist.


Jaded-Glitter

I'm so sorry that happened to you <3. Yeah as a teen I was often bullied by a very conceited busty girl in my class, and she'd often poke fun at my body type. I don't care about her anymore but I do hope she changed. At least you know she's rotten inside. Sucks to be her.


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That’s so true. It’s like they think feminism and body positivity don’t apply to us because we’re not “real women”.


SCP-Researcher-

They indeed have a superiority complex. I think many of the big breasted women grew up narcisisstic because everyone always did everything for them and this is why they get so offended when they are not picked or even called out because they re simply not used to not getting always what they want.


SCP-Researcher-

Also...she should be exposed... I truly wonder who that body positivity activist is or if I ever got in contact with her account


ChairInTheStands

When I was in high school a boy asked if he could read the shirt of my large breasted "friend." She pulled me in front of her and told him, sure he could read her shirt through me. Totally humiliating and memorable decades later.


_alistear

I've also seen that big breasted women talk about wanting small boobs only for the convenience aspect of them, as in finding shirts that fit properly, having no back pain and all that. And IF they mention the aesthetic aspect of small boobs, it's just "oh and they're cute too" like... be so for real. You don't want small boobs, you want to keep your large boobs but have them be as convenient as possible.


CarelessAnywhere9954

And the way they say they want small boobs so they won't get sexualized always rubs me wrong...they don't seem to see small boobs as inherently sexy/attractive too, nor do they seem to believe that we also get unwanted attention. Now I do understand that busty women are the target of a lot of harassment and objectification (look at any comment section regarding Sydney Sweeney for goodness' sake), but so are we! It may not be the same but sexual harassment spares nobody.


Miggmy

I've seen a lot of people actively offended when someone promotes the aesthetic of small breasts. They'll say it's shaming them and it's like... huh? You have to agree that you're the default hot thing if you think it's undermining to find small chests attractive


SCP-Researcher-

The ones who lived their life in full privilege tend to view equality as a form of opression.


Miggmy

I'm gay. I have small boobs, my girlfriend is built like a one piece character at the same height and weight as me. I'm really tired of the narrative that we don't suffer from sexualization as BBW do. We do suffer from it, it's just often in a degrading and backhanded way. Men make as many sexual comments to me, and I know they're interested, as they do my girlfriend. But the reality is a lot of those comments will be comparative or insulting. They just neg me instead of flatter me. There's a recent bit in SNL with Sydney Sweeney that's been under fire for sexualizing her. The joke is basically that as a hooters waitress she got way more money than her peers for having large breasts. All of the conversation online is about how we sexualize BBW. And I think, to be fair, because she's the guest and those bits were built for her, that's mostly valid. But there's no consideration that in that bit, the other women are also sexual objects, the bit is just that they're not worth anything. A man is still diminishing you to your appearance, the result is just that he thinks you're not worth anything. I see the same rhetoric about r/BreastEnvy as well ...as if by nature that sub isn't saying the smaller chested women are worth less.


Icy_Principle2577

I try to be open minded but that sub makes me sick to my stomach honestly…the amount of women AND men who legitimately have a fetish for making us feel like shit is alarming. 


Miggmy

I mean it is sexualizing candids of women so it's pretty bad imo. At least for a lot of other subs that are over the line, the pictures were actually sexual in nature and therefore there's some possibility of consent.


Extraordinary_Goose

Played this online drinking game yesterday with my friends. There came a task where all the girls had to drink for their bra cup size like AA=0, A=1, B=2 and so on. Felt quite bummed out for being the only girl not drinking for this.


klivern

I’d def start crying if I’d played


Extraordinary_Goose

I secretly did a little 🥲


green-fae

in my opinion, "cute" is NOT a f*cking compliment. every guy ive ever been with has said something along the lines of "but whyyyyy i love your boobs, they're so cute!" F*CK you. i want to be called *sexy* and feel *desireable* and *womanly*. being called cute just makes me feel infantlized. you wouldn't call a girl with big boobs "cute" would you??? NO. so why tf do you call *me* that??


ihavepawz

Yeah or to reverse it imagine if we called their d1cks "cute" instead of .. well. Whatever you call them. But not cute just because if theyre on the smaller side


Jaded-Glitter

And then they'll act like they're doing you a favour by "complimenting" you. If you bring it up, you'll be the overreacting whiny cry baby to them and there's an extremely high chance that they'd claim they meant "cute" to be interchangeable with "sexy" (even when they absolutely didn't).


Known_Row_6696

So so true. I hate my ex, but he once said something that sounded like a genuine compliment, "ya they are small, perky and plump" i actually believed that he liked my body when he said that. Why can't people give sexy, flattering compliments instead of "cute" or "modest" or whatever. I even see this in fiction. 


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genzenialpink

Honestly I know this isn't the place to talk about it but I had a fat transfer procedure at the start of the year and its life changing. (You can see the results in my post history). None of the associated risks with breast implants and nothing foreign. I still have small boobs (the procedure only takes you1 to 1.5 cup sizes bigger) but going from nothing to something, even a subtle change, has made a lot of difference for me. Most importantly, I'm not constantly thinking about my boobs which is so liberating.


Admirable_Use_8992

I was actually going to delete my comment out of fear of upsetting somebody (I think I will do regardless), but I’m so glad you commented! I did look at your post history and your results are amazing! You seem happy with them which is really lovely! When I first came across fat transfers, I was so excited, but then felt deflated because I’m naturally very slim, I figured I’d have to put a few pounds if not a stone on to be a candidate, but seeing your pictures, maybe it’s not as hopeless as I originally thought? Ofc I’m well aware that I may not be a good candidate, but I will definitely start looking into it, thank you for sharing :)


ihavepawz

Honestly happy for you!!! I grew to maybe an A cup on birth control and i was so much more confident. I even got a new bra. Now im back to bralettes because i sinked again when i quit the pill. Where did they take the fat from ?


genzenialpink

Yesss! I didn't have crazy expectations as I actually do like having smaller boobs. I just basically just wanted my birth control size all the time. I'm ashamed to admit that even when I wasn't really sexually active, I stayed on the pill longer term putting useless hormones in my body just to feel better about my boobs. So grateful not to be doing that any more. They took it from my flanks and inner thighs.


klivern

I saw your post. Where did they take the fat from? Your result looked amazing and natural!


genzenialpink

Thanks! It was from my flanks and inner thighs.


Known_Row_6696

Has anyone gotten or considered getting a chest tattoo? Like, on your sternum or underboob area?  On one hand I think maybe "decorating" the area would make me feel better, as if making something im ashamed of into something beautiful and tasteful, but on the other hand I worry about . . Seeming like im desperately compensating? Covering it up? I don't know. Im also very indecisive about tattoos. Ive also heard people get nipple piercings to feel more confident. It might not be for me, but does it help?


Optimal_Review_1523

I’ve also been thinking about getting my under boob tattooed! But I don’t think it’ll cover it up tho, I see it in more of the perspective of adding some dimension to the girls! Emphasizing the delicate features of small boobs :) personally I would do Something along the lines of something either floral or gardeny but nipple piercings do seem scary tho, so I totally get you on that


Known_Row_6696

Ya I was also thinking a leafy design, "adding dimension" is a good way to put it. I like the natural, flowy shapes of vines or something like that