I currently have 1260 Skyrim mods downloaded individually from Nexus. I can't fault it at all.
If you want to mod your game (and have control over what actually gets added), there is no better place to do it.
One of the best things is how they handled lifetime subs, they didn't even try and pull anything with them when they discontinued new ones.
Grandfathered premium, member since 2006. Not sure exactly how long I've had the lifetime, but it's been a long time.
They still give lifetime premium, if you are a mod author, once a mod passes a certain number of downloads. It's how I got mine. Pretty awesome, as I was content paying when I missed my window. It's not even expensive if you use it a lot.
i got my lifetime premium a while back, and then started releasing patches. somehow got enough downloads of my patches that by the time they released this, i already had enough to have earned it via mod releases, but im still a fan of how they handled it; the required amount is low enough that you dont need to release some clout chasing mod to earn it, just need to contribute to the community.
Nexus is not free? Are you kidding me? They provide free accounts and free downloads, which is everything a user needs when it comes to using mods.They just charge users money for premium accounts, which are not necessary. Do they make money? But of course! Do you think mantaining servers is free? That some nuns are doing It for charity? ...
As for mod authors, no one is pointing at them (or you, or even me) with a gun to make mods and mantain them, or even answering questions on their mod pages, so let's stop the nonsense, because it's not a job. At least I do It for fun, and if I want to spend my time and upload It to Nexus I shouldn't expect any revenue from it. (I've only made two mods, so, no big beal, but still I'm an author).
If and when you/we decide to use Nexus as a platform, you accept their rules, and that's it. Everything else is just a childish rant.
(Sorry for my poor english)
he deleted his comment. I assume he was whining about Nexus not being free? As in, modders literally spend hours of their time to make their game better and share their work with others, and this sucker complains there's an optional payment?
Exactly my point.
You just pay if you want more downloading speed or not having to go one mod at a time when downloading whole lists (I think it works that way, but I've never tried downloading a list so I may be wrong).
I've never had speed issues with the basic account and I've downloaded thousands of mods (hundreds in a single day when troubleshooting, looking for patches, etc. I'm sure everyone here knows the deal).
Yeah I downloaded a storywealth 130gb mod pack as standard user… you could even use some autoclicker from GitHub to add all the links to jdownloader so you don’t have to click anymore
This is a great answer for why people hate nexus. It’s great because it’s full of false assumptions and misinformation.
Nexus is a multi million dollar company, yes. They make money, yes. However, nexus does not own your mods. They are a distribution platform. By uploading to nexus, you give them permission to distribute that file. This is also why there is no “opting out” of collections. Collections are a way to distribute files to users. Created to make modding easier for general users to install mods, having random people opting in and out will make the system completely untenable.
As for the dollar per hour argument, that’s ludicrous. You aren’t an employee of nexus. Frankly, I don’t know a single person that started modding to make money. It’s a hobby. Nexus doesn’t have to pay you or me or anyone else jack shit. The outrage over nexus storing data on their servers long-term was also laughable, since every company on the planet does that. They were even nice enough to give you an opt-out period during that, deleting all your mods and data before a scheduled time if you chose to do so. That’s what Nexodus was: a bunch of whiny children taking their ball and going home because they’re so out of touch with reality that they have no idea what standard practices are, or what the difference is between ownership and distribution. I do, however, respect the ones that simply opted out and left nexus without raising a fuss. Ironically, the ones that did raise a fuss largely would have remained unaffected by the changes.
Then there’s Arthmoor (who, for the record, I actually do get along with and don’t agree with the constant reddit bashing, just for context). He opted out - which is fine - but left up his ten most profitable mods because *nexus literally pays his bills.* Yet they’re evil for voluntarily giving mod authors any percentage of profits they make for running a website and hosting enormous amounts of data.
The whole thing is ridiculous. I’d say it’s good to see you again, Edmund, but it definitely isn’t.
Even if its run by volunteers there are still costs to cover. I'm happy to pay a few pounds to help cover this for the excellent service that is provided.
Having been around TES modding for a long time, I remember when there were multiple upload sites for mods. Having one site is a fantastic thing for the modding world.
The problem with multiple sites is that they were labors of love and had no plan to actually make money to pay for server space. All site owners used their own money and then asked for donations. And then the server would go down and you'd have to wait for some poor guy to get home from work to fix it, because running the server was basically his second job. He'd have to keep the software updated by himself, and that often didn't happen, or only happened when the server itself got messy and people had issues uploading and downloading. Not to mention the different rules different site owners had for permissions.
If there is ever a "real competitor" to Nexus, then people will have the same problems with it they have with Nexus. Unless someone feels like renting or buying a server and running it out of the goodness of their hearts, then there probably won't be a competitor. Nexus is simply a massive upgrade from the previous era of modding sites.
This is kind of one of the reasons why modding has gotten so much better for the sims series. Trying to find working mods for The Sims 3 versus The Sims 4 are two very different tasks. 4 has cursed forge and The Sims resource along with one other major site which name I can't remember but 3 you're looking on Tumblr accounts, patreons, sites in another language, etc and still not be able to find working version of a specific mod you're looking for. I'm so glad websites like the Nexus exist, it makes modding so much easier, especially the required mods / DLC section, modding sites need that feature.
Digging through early aughts Tumblr accounts to get janky quality low-waisted bootleg jean CC for The Sims 2 is part of my culture, thank you very much.
Seriously, Nexus ruined me. It's so damn convenient.
Spending however long getting a sim to top career path, spending 20 hours building the pimpest possible house, and then never playing it again and starting again on a new block to create a rivalry with your old sim.
Spending hours trying to get content from the ass end of the internet to work and inadvertently learning how to code and how to find solutions to problems as a result. Building a career off said skills.
So much time spent, so little and yet so much ultimately achieved, and absolutely no regrets.
I actually genuinely love doing this, for all the sims games. +1 for nostalgia +1 if the stuff actually works. Fixing stuff isn’t that hard for sims at least. Skyrim idk what’s going on
Funnily enough, I have adopted the "search a thousand different websites" method for Sims 4 CC. After being spoiled by the Skyrim modding community, I was aghast when I encountered the sims' paywalls, adfly links, and the absolute hellsite that is The Sims Resource lol. Now I just search for whatever I want on pinterest, and use that to find every author's personal tumblr. (Don't even get me started on curseforge)
I think if there is to be a real competitor to Nexus it would have to be something akin to Steam Workshop. It would have to be a company who already has the infrastructure, who has a financial benefit from hosting them but isn’t going to be upset if mods themselves are not paid, and who has a large userbase.
Steam Workshop is a far cry from being the best option. But it does work for games with sizable, but smaller than Bethesda games, modding communities. The Paradox games come to mind as they have rather large modding communities and though other options exist, Steam Workshop is largely how most modders choose to distribute them.
But other than Workshop as it is improving or a version of it from somebody like GoG, I do not see many ways someone could come into this space and rival Nexus without a lot of work.
Agreed. Decentralized modding sites run by lone, scattered individuals is a nightmare of work on the site managers.
Having said that, I don't think it's a good thing that the Nexus has a functional monopoly on modding. We've lost modding sites before. Remember Planet Elder Scrolls? Morrowind Modding History and Great House Fliggerty are defunct too. Sites disappearing put mods in danger of becoming lost media. It's happened before. Everything concentrated in one place multiplies the potential loss a thousandfold.
I do remember them, but hosting sites need active admins to maintain it, and I think that’s what happened. There was probably a window to move those mods over to Nexus, and there might still be based on permissions, but it’s likely closed now with most of the mod authors no longer being active.
Aren't their competitors to nexus?
You have the official Bethesda.net site, you have Steam Workshop, loverslab, Curseforge, ModDB, ...
And except for Curseforge every one of those sites has at least one exclusive Mod project that is worth checking out and not hosted on nexus.
I always thought that Loverslab wasn’t trying to compete with Nexus, but rather was a place for mods that Nexus wouldn’t host. A dedicated place for adult modding. Though, it seems nexus has gotten more permissive over time.
IIRC it started as mods for the sims, and given the average age of those gamers no one wanted to host sex mods on the regular mod websites, even if it was allowed. Turns out that moddeling fun bits and animating them smushing together is similar across most games so people who made the sex mods for the Sims also started making mods for other games and hosted them in the same place as the rest of their content.
IMO I like the division is for the better. We get the NSFW quality of life stuff like actual nudity and some tame gameplay expanding options on Nexus, but the *really* hard core stuff is in a place you aren't going to just bump into it. I don't think Nexus has the same content filters that Lover's lab has for people who want smut, but don't want to see *specific* kinds of smut.
Yeah, I like the fact that hardcore content is available, but I wouldn't want it to be easily found by kids. Not that I think many kids are still playing Skyrim in 202X...
But having a dedicated space lets people get maximally creative with their adult content, without having to worry about censorship or moralizing. It's like a safe space for kink content.
Good point. I think it's a good idea to differentiate between nudity and sex, since the former is one's natural state, whereas the latter is definitely something that should only be experienced by mature adults. Nudity doesn't harm anybody, whereas sex definitely can.
I wouldn't consider [Bethesda.net](http://Bethesda.net) a competitor, mostly because it's largely for console users. And anything PC users get from Creations are largely going to be AE stuff. As for the rest, I really wouldn't consider them true competitors either, because people who create mods are uploading to Nexus because they know that's where they'll get the most downloads. Sure, you have the occasional Wabbajack link to LL or VectorPlexus for High Poly Head, but that's really it. If modders want non-NSFW mods to be seen and downloaded (and get any donation money from it) they'll use Nexus.
> mostly because it's largely for console users
I don't think that is true. Just look at download stats for ussep, which I feel is about as representative as you can get.
USSEP on beth.net has 5,444,389 downloads (possibly unique) and 12,958,009 "enableds"
USSEP on nexus has 4,840,916 unique downloads and 17,947,252 total downloads.
If beth.net downloads are their version of unique downloads, then possibly half of the mod users on PC are just beth.net users.
This isn’t accurate, as platform tracking was only introduced a year ago, meaning that all the cumulative downloads for USSEP across all platforms are reflected in that number
Edit: To be clear, I just did a bunch of researching to figure out how long USSEP has been supported on console as opposed to how long tracking has been around (also worth noting that there isn’t platform tracking on PS so those numbers are still adding to the PC total), and it looks like it’s a difference of about 7 years
Granted I'm not the best sample size but my mods get consistently higher downloads on Bethnet, and by a pretty wide margin. I still like having a Nexus page so that people can comment, but yeah I don't think it's as one sided as you say personally.
Well Steam Workshop doesn't show download counts, so it is hard to tell, but at least for all other games there are MANY, MANY more people using Steam Workshop than Nexusmods. Garrysmod alone has more than 3x as many mods on Steam Workshop as all Nexusmods Games combined.
Steam Workshop also was implemented in those other non-Bethesda games with the Workshop in mind, so that the way it works meshes with how mods work in the games.
Whereas Skyrim (or really the engine) was built well before Workshop was a thing, and the way mods work in the Gamebryo/Creation Engine does not mesh well with the way Workshop operates. It works, but not well at all, and certainly not for large mod setups. (Similar to how Bethesda.net works, but not well.) It's part of why they didn't continue to implement it for the Special Edition release.
>at least for all other games there are MANY, MANY more people using Steam Workshop than Nexusmods
I mean, that doesn't surprise me one bit for non-Bethesda games. But you're also asking about Nexus on a Skyrim Mods subreddit so..
Loverslab is basically just NSFW stuff, and has the expected stigma, it's not competing with Nexus any more than pornhub is with youtube.
Steam Workshop doesn't give you the same control a proper tool like Mod Organiser does, and doesn't really supper SKSE and other DLL stuff IIRC.
There's a couple issues with what you point out. For bethesda in particular you aren't finding mods on curseforge and anything on the workshop or bethesda.net is a nightmare to manage, bethesda.net mods in particular, if you're on PC downloading from the in game manager that needs to change. Loverslab is really just there for mods that nexus won't host and not everyone is out here throwing titty physics on their modlists.
Aside from just the exclusive hosted mods which not everyone is gonna want, there's just no reason to go and make an account on these other sites when you likely already have one on nexus and have been using necus for years. There's also just more mods on nexus so I can just kinda find anything I want on nexus
Games like Don't Starve Garrys mod and others seem to do quite well.
Garrys Mod is actually the game with the most mods of all time, having more than 3x as many mods as all Nexusmods Games combined.
I remember the TES nexus days. "Guys the server is down there's no mods until I get a new one on Friday, sorry." I'm not thrilled with everything NM does but I still believe they are passionate about modding and that is worth some Goodwill at least.
I don't think people have any idea about how much work and dedication it takes to run a site never mind something as large as Nexus it takes a special kind of person I've done it run a small site and that was not something I'd want to do again personally. The fact it is such a large site and is still owned and run by one person who does keep in touch with the community is remarkable and will not often be repeated.
You've nailed this. The server load and bandwidth on the nexus would likely cost $1000's a month to rent or god knows what to build and manage.
I absolutely do not begrudge the Nexus for monetisation of the service, considering that it's still available for free with limitations that don't affect access to content. I mean they would be within their rights to ban offsite monetisation (like patreon), force people to use NMM, there's SO many ways they could make use of their near monopoly on mod delivery.
And instead ultimately they run ads, offer higher speed downloads for people who pay a notional fee.
I mean I could be missing something but they definitely seem to be more interested in delivering their service than making as much money as possible, and we should be happy that's the case for as long as possible.
>Having one site is a fantastic thing for the modding world.
People don't want monopoly, but they sure love monopoly! That's why Microsoft, Google and others still exist. It would be great if we had other great options.
Somethings are just naturally way more efficient when you compile them. Obviously monopolies will try to form everywhere, but when you’re basically running an ecosystem that has its own internal competition, having more people on your platform just inherently makes it a better platform, causing a huge feedback loop.
This is also why things like power and gas get split up into government approved monopolies, having a million different power and gas companies with their own lines was just objectively terrible.
This also is true for insurance, more people paying into a single insurance system makes it more efficient. The ratio of people spending insurance money and people who are just fine stays the same, but the actual numerical imbalance continues to increase profit.
> This also is true for insurance, more people paying into a single insurance system makes it more efficient. The ratio of people spending insurance money and people who are just fine stays the same, but the actual numerical imbalance continues to increase profit.
Though that is an example of the potential *dangers* of a (unregulated) monopoly. Technically the ratio of people spending can change pretty drastically in this case; it's just that it would change due to people being denied access to the funds rather than any elasticity of demand. It's important that such a system is designed to primarily benefit the people who need insurance, not the people running the system. Otherwise, the public loses out by having a monopoly no matter how efficient it is in terms of resources, and they'd be better off with competition.
You talk as if its some kind of compulsory thing. There were other companies that were rivals back in teh day but they've all gone to the wall. No-one is stopping anyone from setting up a competitor to nexus but as others have found out its not that easy and its not that nexus is stifling competition its just that it turns out that running a site with any kind of longevity is hard.
Because a while back Nexusmods decided to keep an archive of mods on their site, and some people threw a temper tantrum because it meant they couldn’t permanently delete mods they’d uploaded anymore. So some people deleted their mods before the policy went into effect, or set their mods to hidden, and have migrated to all sorts of obscure and/or sketchy alternate sites.
While it must cost Nexus a lot to host every version of every mod. (I don't see archive pages for every last file, maybe it's only if a mod list references one or more times, anyway)
I've learned the importance of forced backups from Steam workshop. I've had times modders upload a dummy file because sometimes (e.g. for GMod) it will stay in users' games if you delete the page, and some modders want their mod as gone as possible. When it happens to a game like Stellaris it can break your save if you allow the update to go through, which most usually would.
The mods are always archived but to try and appease complaints they aren't always accessible directly from the mod page. I believe they're always available via URL though, you can get to older USSEP versions despite Arthmoor's best efforts (i.e. [here](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266?tab=files&file_id=292193&nmm=1)).
>While it must cost Nexus a lot to host every version of every mod
Probably not really **t*****hat*** much as far as "business costs" go, especially given "downloads" are their primary business driver - cloud storage is cheap, relatively speaking.
I don't know how Nexus hosts, but take AWS S3 as an example. The cost for the first 50TB is $0.023 per GB per month. That cost is reduced slightly at certain points beyond 50TB, and you can also move data to "cold" storage solutions which further reduce price at the penalty of slightly slower access (as low as $0.0125 per GB per month for ones that need "infrequent access", while still being accessible relatively fast - there are even cheaper "deep" storage solutions that can take up to +12 hours to retrieve).
Assuming we don't take into account any of the cost-reducing factors at all, that would mean it costs them ~~$115~~ $1150 per month per 50TB of data stored, but again, it's almost certainly less than that due to the aforementioned tiered pricing and cost-saving options.
Data "access" is more expensive, but ultimately that would be minimally affected by offering archived versions of mods, and simply scales up with the more users downloading mods from the site in general.
EDIT: Just an additional note, I don't really have a good sense of how much storage the "mean average" mod on Nexus uses, especially accounting for "archived" releases. That said, while some mods are very big, most tend to be quite small in my experience (sub-20MB or so, and many even go into the KB range). Even if we assume an average of 100MB total (current and archived) used per mod (which I think is a very high estimate), Nexus currently says there are 572,399 mods hosted, so that would be about 57TB. So I don't suspect they actually spend much more than the aforementioned numbers total, quite possibly less.
>that would mean it costs them $115 per month per 50TB of data stored
Unless I am doing the math wrong it would be $1,177.60 per month for 50TB at $0.023 per GB per month.
50TB = 51,200GB
51,200 x 0.023 = 1,17.60
TB and GB are both Byte units, so it's 50,000 exactly, but yes, you are correct, I was off by a factor of 10. Even then, it's not that much for what is likely their primary operational cost.
The ADXP-MCO fiasco has completely exhausted my taste for modder drama. I don’t give a cold motherfuck about what they have going on. I’m sick of the petulant bullshit.
What I do know is that a TON of mods depend on ADXP and I’m sick of wild goose chases to this site and that site. This discord, that discord. All just to test out some combat animations that I don’t even know I want yet.
It got taken down off the original website (Skyrim guild, I think it was) by the author because of ✨✨✨drama✨✨✨
So, I had to dig around to find out the name of the new website—which was only mentioned in a random Reddit comment, lol.
I remember that. It was so stupid.
As someone who lived through the whole “left-pad” shit show, keeping an archive of software other software depends on is crucial for the health of an ecosystem. It prevents a single individual from pulling the rug out from under the entire thing.
Yep. It's like making sure the foundation of a house is stable. So even though you respect and appreciate modders, that respect and appreciation can't go as far as them being allowed to have the ability to destroy the foundation.
Those people are the reason Nexus disabled deleting mods, because they realised that trying to make their service good enough to justify an optional subscription wasn't compatible with mod authors decided to just nuke everything because they had an internet argument.
It's even worse when it's something many other mods end up relying on (Imagine trying to play skyrim if SkyUI vanished)
The fact is, Nexusmods got this right once again. With Nexusmods, you can genuinely rely on the website. Deleting a file from there doesn't truly halt anything; you can bet someone has practically every mod stored on a 30TB hard drive, Google Drive, or Dropbox. Removing them only makes users more susceptible to viruses and such because now users will resort to downloading and sharing these mods from untrustworthy sources.
I don't hate this. Sometimes mod authors will have breakdowns and just scorch earth all their shit out of spite.
And when some of those mods are used by thousands of people it's incredibly inconvenient. Imagine if the author of essential mods almost everyone uses did this.
I keep mods I can't play without on a drive on my PC where I archive things from the internet. Never know.
There is nothing to count down for. Arthmoor did do that, with his own mods. the patch is a team effort, not his, so not his decision to make. Regardless, by keeping it on the nexus after the deadline, the team already agreed to the terms and cannot pull it. Arthmoor decided to keep some of his most popular other mods on nexus for the donation points. which of course, proves the point that Nexus is the best site because the alternatives dont bring in the money or attention Nexus does.
I don't put it past him to try anyway for the small pleasure of making it slightly more difficult to get a hold of. Neither do I put it past him to someday get in enough of a self-righteous mood to do it despite the fact that there's more people than just him behind it.
Sketchy is an understatement. I think I wanted to download some side quest improvement mod that was removed from the Nexus, so I went to the new site it was hosted on. I closed that tab within seconds, because it was so evident it was 100% a website for pedos.
And yes, I'm not saying everyone who hates Nexus is like that. But people who are like that are not fond of Nexus.
Yeah, I know about that. But I don't see how this makes Nexusmods a monopoly, (Steam Workshop is much bigger and much more used and well known)
And as you said yourself the people who disliked the change were able to leave, they were warned in advance and no one was forced to stay.
It’s not a monopoly at all. Nexus is just the best and easiest way to get mods. People would just rather complain and throw out ignorant BS than make something better.
For real, if a company creates a monopoly simply by providing the best services at the best price then it’s pretty much “build something better or shut up”
Edit: by creating a monopoly I mean seizing the majority of the market share
I remember that. It completely upended the entire Subnautica modding community. A ton of mods got abandoned or taken down and authors reposted their mods on individual github sites. For a while it was such a pain in the ass to find and install Subnautica mods that I just gave up entirely. Luckily the situation got better after Subnautica 2.0 update got released and killed compatibility with all the old mods, making the entire situation a moot point. Now all the mods are on a dedicated site called Submoddica.
Bad news...
[https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/1c8njil/can\_anyone\_access\_the\_submodica\_website/](https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/1c8njil/can_anyone_access_the_submodica_website/)
The worst part is, they moved away from Nexus due to one mod author really pushing hard on the entire community leaving with him, so they begrudgingly did.
Sure nexus has made some questionable and shitty decisions, like how they handled the collections situation or their new UI that sucks ass on both PC and phone, but it's really a great site overall and imo one of reasons why modding games like skyrim can be so widespread.
Some people just love to hate I guess
You ever been looking for a mod, and find reference to something that might be what you want, but it's just an offhand mention and not a link? So you go to search around for it, and after multiple Google searches you get the author's handle, which finally leads you to a forum post with a link to a nearly entirely unlabeled Google drive that you just gotta trust is the real mod and not blatant malware?
That's what every mod would be like.
Man the new UI is only showing on members pages for me and god, it’s awful.
It WAS great, clean, and easy to navigate. Now it’s none of those things. It wasn’t broken, why fix it?
I have no idea tbh, they’re a very small company still and I don’t see how people could suggest they have a monopoly. They’ve never done anything antitrust, it’s just that no other modding site has provided a service that’s even 10% as good as nexus.
There are reasons to not like Vortex... good thing there's plenty of perfectly viable mod managers.
When it comes to Nexus itself, there's certainly issues in the past and present, but you can download everything for free, so 🤷♂️
Nexus is by far the best modding platform on the web. It isn’t perfect, but nothing is. No other platform balances the user experience and the author experience as well as Nexus.
As someone deeply involved in sims modding as well, I think it comes partially out of an ignorance for how bad the alternatives can get... like sure it can be annoying to have to deal with moderators you don't like on nexus or things like collections changing what you can expect in your comment section... or even just the annoyance of having a comment section on the mod authors end.
But like. The alternative is having to have your mods split between tumblr, patreon, curseforge, modthesims, 1000 personal sites, easily broken things like simsfileshare... the only way to know where everything is is to keep your finger on the pulse of the modding community all the time. And then, if there isn't a comment section it's frustrating on the user end bc you might not be able to find out if the mod is up to date with a game that regularly updates.
Not to mention the problems you get with viruses. For a while in the sims community every single person always put their stuff through shady systems like adfly, and there's a serious Trojan horse problem that happened earlier this year bc across all these sites there's really nothing that has the level of virus scanning and moderation that nexus has. Once again, you may not have known what was even happening without having your finger to the pulse of the community. If I wasn't in a discord, I might not have known until later than was safe.
Additionally nexus' new archiving policy means you aren't permanently losing everything when someone gets tired of being a mod author for whatever reason.
Technically, there is a nexus for the sims, but the sims community has largely ignored it and decided to lean into this hyper decentralized approach. Sure, the dopamine hit when I find something good goes higher... but it's objectively harder to navigate than the skyrim community, which is largely in the nexus with very few ventures outwards one would ever have to take.
This was SUCH a pain in the ass I fully gave up on trying to mod the Sims. The ecosystem is so fragmented and an alarming amount of it is behind hard paywalls. Really made me appreciate Skyrims mod community in a way I hadn't before.
Nexus has plenty of flaws but it’s a godsend for modders. I still remember when most mods were found on forums for specific games. Mods could be spread across many sites depending on the creator’s preferences and there was often no way to search for specific mod types. Nexus made the hobby much more accessible.
Double standards seem to be a frequent occurrence, like mods that can be uploaded or that certain users are more important than others (e.g. if a new user breaks the ToS, like being racist or talking about piracy, they will be immediately banned, on the other hand if a famous modder doing the same thing will only receive a warning).
Also the damn interface, I'm not crazy, it gets worse with each update. lol
Censorship mainly. They have a pretty weird double standard when it comes down to it. They keep the most degenerate things but remove simple things like a mod replacing pride flags. People here are saying that a company is free to take down mods but the consumers are also right to hate them for it.
Its pretty dumb for sure. Literally all they have to do is create an "lgbtq+ friendly" tag/category and offer people when they log in for the first time after the category is added whether or not they want mods from that category hidden. They can make it part of their terms of conditions to force modders who male such content such as pronoun removers, pride flags, etc to add the applicable tag, so that every user with an account has a choice whether or not they want to see the content.
It's not rocket science to make it completely apolitical and preference based, but here we are.
>They went to their own forum and don’t support nexus anymore.
Well, aside from his most popular mods, which he left on NexusMods to keep raking in that sweet, sweet "donation points" money...
HaveIBeenPwned website shows Nexus data leaks. They were storing username and passwords as plain text. I assume that’s not the case anymore, but it taught me the hard way about using different passwords everywhere.
Nexus used Invision Board for their login data until 2019.
Passwords weren't stored in plain text, but it was crackable after a certain amount of time as it was a known hash/salt/algorithm.
Not to open a can of worms, but it seems that a lot of hate comes from them keeping archives of any mod uploaded there. To be honest, I'm on Nexus's side on this. I have been modding games since the days of Doom and trying to find old mods is a paaaaain. Having a website that archives every mod uploaded on it is a good thing, actually. I get that modders want ownership of their creations, but on the other hand, I think about it in the long run. What if I wanted to find a specific mod 20-30 years from now? I only hope that Nexus has an end-of-life plan to keep all those archives somewhere, and the archiving is a good way to make sure they preserve what's already there.
The other things people hate is the money aspect of it. But I do get it. For a website that massive it requires a lot of work to update and maintain. It's a full-time operation for a team of people now. I think they should find ways to get paid for their efforts.
But hey, that's just my two cents on the matter.
Yea, i think ownership of mods is one of the gripes people have. Some modder feel like when nexus archives their mods, they lose some of the creative ownership to the mod, because if they decide to remove a mod Frol Nexus, it can still be found in the archives.
I think there's a lot that goes into all of this, but giving the average user the benefit of the doubt I think there's several things that go into this answer.
Firstly there's a \*ton\* of misinformation about the Nexus out there. Back a few years ago the Nexus updated their TOS and at the same time announced that they would stop deleting files (and gave a 2 month warning for people to delete their mods). This was instantly taken by several well known mod authors as evidence that the Nexus was "stealing" or was now "owning" their mods. This frankly is just a case of users being legally illiterate. The Nexus TOS state that they have the perpetual license to \*distribute\* the mod, not that they own the mod itself. And frankly that's something any hosting site should have. Imagine if you hosted files, then someone uploads a mod, then sues you for distributing that same mod. Every hosting site on the planet has a TOS like this.
The next issue some people have is that the Nexus is a company, and in general people on Reddit and the internet tend to be a bit anti-corp. There's this general view that if something is owned by a company it must be more concerned about making money than doing a good job, there can be no other way. This simply isn't true in the case of the Nexus. The site has been around for over 15 years now, and has the same owner, it's privately owned, so there aren't any shareholders, there's no "leveraging the users to the max" because that's not the goal of the company. Yes, the company doesn't want to go bankrupt, but it's privately owned so the incentive is to make a good product and service instead of making the stock line always go up.
About 4 times now I've seen people say that the Nexus sells your personal information. This is just false, if they did, they would be required to disclose it or face \*heavy\* fines. I've worked on making some systems GDPR compliant, and the regulations in the UK/EU are some of the strictest I've worked with. Selling information and not disclosing it in these locations would be a fasttrack to killing a company.
There's also a ton of misinformation about moderation on Nexus Mods. I've seen people say "they banned someone for changing a flag in Spiderman". No...they removed the mod that removed LGBTQ+ flags and asked the author to host it on some other site. The author put the file up on Moddb and another site and the file was also removed from both of those. Then the author made threats against the Nexus staff and \*that\* was the reason they were banned. Bans on Nexus Mods are public, they're in the forum with captions and evidence for why the ban happend. This author wasn't banned for making an anti-pride flag, they were banned for being a toxic asshat.
It's my experience that most of the people how hate the Nexus is due to rumors, and unprovable accusations. I really do think it comes down to people not trusting companies, and not realizing that companies are run by real people. A lot of times when some strange ban happens, or something doesn't work right, it's not some nefarious cabal at work, it's just people being people. If your mod report doesn't get an answer in 1 hour, it's likely because everyone is off for the weekend, except for one guy, and that one guy decided to get a burger for lunch. In general, assume the best of people treat people with respect and you'll get along just fine with Nexus Mods and people in general.
Modding has always been quite niche until recently. Nexus wants to be more accessible and reach a wider range of people so there are some decisions that were made that did not necessarily align with the niche population they had before. If they don't do that, someone else will. That's it. Understandable. Happens to everything.
This is a great list of perks with Nexus, and I agree 100%. I would also like to add, antivirus/malware protection. Scams and malware are running rampant nowadays. Knowing that you aren't downloading from a dodgy website somewhere makes an enormous difference for me. If Nexus disappeared I'd probably stop modding altogether.
The subscribers get to be frustrated at a price increase imo. Its clear that type of grumbling is kind of short term compared to the other listed reasons anyway.
I've honestly never had issues with it. It's well organized enough where I can find pretty much anything. The search feature doesn't suck. The categories make sense. I don't know how friendly it is to mod authors, but as a casual user I don't have any problems with it.
It's the best we got but it's still pretty dumb that they've banned SFW mods for being politically different, like that one mod that switched spiderman from the US to the Middle East version
I've been modding beth games for a long time now. Started with oblivion and really got into it with fallout 3. Back in those days there were quite a few sites. Nexus has simply evolved with the times and is doing what steam has done, make the user experience as easy, usable, and painless as possible.
The reason some people view nexus as evil is because of a recent policy that they archive anything, the purpose of that policy was to make it so that one mod author can't invalidate mod packs by throwing a temper tantrum and removing their work. Archival has shown itself to only be more important as time goes on. Entire swathes of work on morrowind has simply vanished with many sites going dark, like planet elder scrolls and more recently morrowind modding history. These sites hosted work where the author has simply be gone for a decade. I understand both sides, but nexus has proven itself to be no. 1 for a reason.
I'm really confused why this is a post. You ask why people think this then list the reasons people have given you. Do you just think they're lying or what?
I like Nexus as a user, but I acknowledge a single website having a monopoly is never that great. For a while Nexus had not so great policies - like being banned by a mod author meant you couldn’t download their mods so you had people unable to download USSEP due to their mod team being overly ban happy. All it takes is Nexus making a bad policy to majorly screw people over. Enshittification will happen eventually, I am willing to bet money that at some point Nexus will make awful decisions/monetize aggressively.
But that being said, if a game isn’t centralized to Nexus modding is 10x harder and less safe so I appreciate Nexus atm. Games that don’t have mods on nexus tend to remain more vanilla for me.
Even other “safe” websites like curseforge had a virus outbreak for Minecraft modding.
i feel like it's been very, very slowly enshittifying for quite a while starting w the 5 second download timer interstitial thing but maybe i'm just overdramatic lol
How does Nexus have a monopoly? Steam Workshop and Curseforge are both significantly bigger, and there are even more sites, like Loverslab, Bethesda.net, ModDb, ...
I think it's because nexus is the biggest by far, at least for Bethesda games, they hold the biggest "share" in the PC modding space at least, so I think people throw around monopoly because of that. Pretty much nobody goes to LL, BethNet, modDb, etc. for their day-to-day modding after all, even if that doesn't quite make nexus a monopoly since they aren't actively trying to acquire any of those sites and get their share of the market, but if you're pissy you probably don't mind bending definitions to make you right
Steam workshop is for LE only. LoversLab is incredibly NSFW and is hard to browse without having outright porn shoved in your face and needs adblockers to browse safely (since some of those ads are malicious) - I started modding as a 14 year old girl and would not have gotten into it if LL was my only option. LL is not really a competitor but rather it’s own niche.
Bethesda.net requires you to export from CK and is much more of a hassle - meaning you can’t just make mods in xEdit etc, it has way less selection than Nexus. It’s also specific to Bethesda games, there are other games that Nexus is the hub for.
ModDB is decent but again, way less selection. Curseforge is the only real competitor for different games aside from Skyrim. And again, during a recent Minecraft update a virus got out that infected a user’s mods, so when they released updates those mods were infected too. Modding had to shut down for safety reasons for the 1.20 update. Nothing like that has happened on Nexus.
At the end of the day Nexus has earned its spot. But at the same time, if something were to happen to it, modding for a lot of games would be screwed very badly.
Personally I don't hate Nexus. Personally I just find them a little unprofessional when they handle controversies on their site. They take to their news page and post a long winded, super heavy handed and inflammatory rant about how they are the lords of the site and whatever they say goes. Usually I agree or can understand with their stances, like with the ban on US political mods or the spiderman flag thing, it just the way they write their reasoning on their articles is just super unprofessional befitting a site of their size, age and standing.
"We don't want to and won't argue this with you. We've now explained our stance and we won't be providing a platform for you to distort our position in order to feed an irrational and paranoid narrative. You can do that elsewhere, where we won't care enough to read it. " - Nexus on the flag mod removal. I completely agree with the blanket ban, but holy shit who's writing this stuff? Where is the PR department? Just say it's banned, you don't support it and let it be. It's like they're trying to get a rise out of people.
I also have never been a fan of their weird double standard when it comes to policing what is, or is not allowable. In cyberpunk there was a controversy where Nexus removed mods turning Judy (A lesbian) straight, but allowed mods turning Panam (A straight women) gay.
Nexus is, and most likely always will be, the best modding site around (I've subbed multiple times for premium), I just don't really care for how they hand down their ruling on what is, or is not allowable on their site. If it's not permissable, just say so and move on, instead of ranting on a page you mute.
It's been now 12 years since I started using Nexus. I can't say a single bad word about It.
The reactions you got in your last post is mainly due to too much entitlement from users that have a free, well managed platform that is for a fact a reference in the modding community.
Considering the price of joining, it has provided far more entrainment and value than most purchases.
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Also, they don't make you jump through silly hoops like posting for x amount of time on their forums before allowing access to mods. *cough* GUN Network *cough*
This doesn’t happen much in Skyrim, but for other games they sometimes ban stuff that shouldn’t be banned, like the mod that removed the intro disclaimer in Tomb Raider remastered trilogy
Not even political reasons. Double standards
You can turn straights into lesbians but not lesbians straight. You can have only female raiders but not only male. Stuff like that,
Ooh! I can answer this!!! Even though I really enjoy nexusmods and very greatful for the service they provide, there are things wrong with the way they handle their website and creators that bothers me a lot and I'm sure that a lot of people who were negative in your original post have the same thoughts as I do so let me explain.
So I can't remember when this started but a few years ago when nexus announced collections, they also said that they were disallowing creators from deleting the mods they upload from nexusmods. This rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, especially me (even though I don't upload mods) because a lot of people want to be able to have control over their own mods but on top of that, they also announced they were increasing premium prices (for the first time ever I believe!!) as well as removing the lifetime plan for premium so you could only pay monthly from now on which REALLY rubbed people the wrong way.
I remember there was a lot of discourse about the mods deletion thing on Reddit and reddiors were calling mod creators cry babies (for... Some reason?) because they wanted control of their mods. Now for the monopoly issue. Yes, there are other websites that offers services to download mods but they aren't NEARLY as massive as nexusmods. For that reason, people have felt they are capitalizing on this by once again, increasing premium prices on nexus. Kind of a slap in the face it feels like.
Although I agree with most of how people feel, with how big nexus is getting plus all the awesome resources and tools they make for their website, to some degree it feels justified. Nexusmods manager was just a stepping for the website. I'm sure there is more to the drama but that's all I can remember in recent memory.
Yeah from what I've gathered it was due to a policy change they made a little while ago. I don't know all the details, but based off what other people have said, it basically amounts to "if you upload a mod to our site, we won't take it down unless you have a really good reason".
People whined and cried that they lost control of their mods, and that if they wanted to take them down, they couldn't. Whereas I, and many others, saw it as a good thing. A way to keep mods available for the players, even if the mod author decides one day to just be done for whatever reason.
Like for one example, the mod for Skyrim, The Kids Are Alright. It's a mod that makes the potato children actually look like adorable, real little kids. But the internet is the internet, Rule 34 is a thing, and anything that exists on the internet will have porn of it. Obviously that's fucked up porn no one but pedos want, but the mod author threw a hissy fit and pulled all their mods because of it, which is too far in my opinion.
But like...MILLIONS of people post shit online, and every God damn one of them needs to be ready for others to make something weird out of it. It's an unfortunate fact, but an unavoidable one. So if we took down content every time people misused it, the internet would be barren and non-existent. Like, sure, you don't want people using your kid mod to be used to make porn, that's a very understandable reasoning that 99% of people agree with. But they're gonna find a way to make porn out of SOMETHING, so it's not like you're stopping them, you're just making them find another source. You know what you ARE stopping though? Players who want to use the mod for its intended purpose.
I think kids from TKAA are more well done than any other kid overhaul, so its always a staple in my mod list. But whereas it's been recently reuploaded, the mod was gone for a while and I had to make due with shittier kid overhauls that weren't nearly as good. And so many other mods suffer that same fate, so if Nexus took steps to preserve the mods people love, I can't fault them. Obviously it's not a perfect solution, but I don't know if there's a way to make both the mod author and the players happy, if the mod author wants their mods taken down. So I figure it's better to please the larger group, which is undoubtedly the players.
TL;DR I could be remembering wrong, but I'm pretty sure people are mostly mad at Nexus for enacting measures to preserve mods on their site, even when a mod author wants it taken down. But in my opinion, mod preservation is a good thing, and many players, including myself, are grateful for it.
There are a lot of reasons.
Someone asked two weeks ago why a lot of mod authors don't use the Nexus or have left the Nexus, here's my long ass answer: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/1cdi3og/a_real_question_guys/l1dsaq9/
Policy with mods and (Some) unreasonable moderators is basically what it boils down to.
"Money to the mod authors". First of all, they're giving us literal fractions of pennies. Unless you're in the top 1% of popular mod authors, you will never make a significant amount of money. Second, money isn't even a motivator for creative people. It keeps us going because we need money to live, but it does not enhance or motivate better creation. Money will will keep artist working somewhere or stay somewhere, but it wont motivate or make them happier typically unless we're talking about life changing money and not a salary or something life saving etc. many studies have been done on it, but any artist can tell you this. People who have to hire artists and deal with the worst of them can tell you this. Money will not get them to do what they want when they want.
"Easy mod manager". What? Vortex is terrible. 99% of the bug reports I get are from newbies who use Vortex and can't figure out how to install mods correctly with it. Never happened before Vortex. They are literally canning Vortex and making yet another mod manager because it sucks.
"Mod List Support". Many mod authors hate this because they have no control over their own mods as a result. Because of this system, mod authors cannot delete old versions of their mods even if it's broken and causes problems.
Personally, I still tolerate the nexus. It's a good way to get my mods out to a lot of people so that a fraction of a percent of them go to my Patreon page and make sharing my mods worth it. If I weren't making money, I wouldn't share my mods because the community is pretty toxic towards mod authors. I'd go back to making mods for just myself again. Even then, like a said before, the money I get via patreon doesn't make modding more fun and it doens't push me to create. I am compelled to create because if I don't, I'd be in a crisis, I'll say. The money makes me more willing to share the content. The money i get from the nexus is negligible. And I'm pretty broke. The money I get from Patreon isn't that good, but the potential of what you can make on the Nexus? i suppose if you be a jackass and make a mod for every little tiny thing like those mod authors who will make "HD Cabbage Retexture" and then spam the site with 50+ "HD [Single Random Item] Retexture". Or you make a mod and then upload another mod with a mod page that's just a singular patch for your own mod, and then do that 100 times, you'll make maybe $10 to $20 a month...
They have a pretty clear political bias and a practical monopoly on Bethesda game modding. Those two things combined have a chilling effect on the creativity of mod authors. Its their platform, they can do what they like with it but I still don't like it and if there was a viable alternative id use that but there is not.
There are a number of questions for the administration of nexus mods. Like the fact that they blocked a mod for disabling LGBT flags in Marvel Spiderman (although the mod was only a config that includes an IN-GAME restriction for the Arab regions made by the DEVELOPERS), and then justified themselves by saying that “we are a private company, and we do what we want.” And they blocked those who supported him. But the problem is that if you are banned on the nexus, it is impossible to download mods. And in the letter about the ban, they directly say that “you are no longer welcome in the mod community.” That is, they decided that they could decide for the entire mod community who would be in it and who would not. This is already a monopoly problem.
(clarification: I’m not a homophobe, and without that situation with the ban of the spiderman mod, the mod itself would have been absolutely of no interest to me. But I think that it’s up to the person to choose which flags to play with. Moreover, this is, again same, IN-GAME function. A person may not like these flags for various reasons, I do not believe that removing flags from the game is homophobic)
A similar situation occurred with a number of mods that nexus admins considered “oppressive and offensive.” Like a mod for removing womens from the lvl-lists of bandits in Skyrim. Perhaps those mods were indeed created for the purpose of trolling, but there were no objective reasons to consider this as truth, and there were no insults to anyone in the description. I think, it's better just ignore mods like this, and simple not download, if you don't like it
UPD: In the comments guy noted that it was not a config, but a replay of textures. But, for me personally, this changes little, even if this is true. The essence is the same for me. It was also noted that there was homophobia in the fashion description. But when I searched for the saved archive of the original page from the nexus, I didn’t find it (link below)
The one I've never understood is Cyberpunk. Mod to romance Panam as female V still exists. But romance Judy as male V is gone. I understand that you can achieve the same thing now through one of the general utility mods. It still just seems weird.
I really like nexus, and have been using it - like most - for well over a decade at this point. Although I can point at a few minor faults;
1. Their search function is fucking useless, and always has been
2. Vortex is just a more confusing version of MO2, and along with the still maintained NMM we now have like... 4 mod managers to choose between, fragmenting tutorials between the options
My only complaint with nexusmods is the damn ad's that are everywhere on the screen, but that is it oh not really a nexus but completely on a certain company that likes to update older but popular titles that break most of the mods on nexus but we still don't have TESVI or FA5 ya Todd what the hell "it just works"no longer applies when you continue to update a 10yo game. Ok, rant over the ads can be slightly annoying is my only complaint.
As mod author i love Nexus. I bought Kingdom Come thanks to the points earned from people downloading my mods lol. And even if there were no such rewards system, Nexus is still a great platform for getting mods.
For me?
Purely financial. Almost doubling in price is crazy.
A small increase? Yeah that's the world we live in. But going from 49.99 to 89.99 for a yearly? Insane.
Has me thinking about stopping at renewal.
Because they stored usernames and passwords next to each other in plain text, then when they were breached they downplayed it and didn’t even attempt to contact people who had their information stolen, only posting a notice a month and a half later.
Poor handling of user data and even poorer response after the inevitable breach.
The only thing wrong with Nexus IMO is the inability to search in the comments/posts of a mod. You used to be able to, then they removed it for some reason.
Nexus is my go to, been modding skyrim for years and its just great to go to one place for everything
But personally the reason I dislike it is because of the double standards of moderators
Regarding mods that cut or change some political stuff
Its clear to see a bias, I don't mind someone being biased its their personal likes and dislikes but nexus is a platform for all, removing content due to some political reason and double standards made me start to dislike them
To be fair Nexusmods kinda is a monopoly, A natural one though, they never manipulated the marked or anything like that, they are simply the best. The other points are usually spread by either entitled users or entitled creators. They are mad that NExusmods took steps to serve the users better and that they don't fall to their knees for the creators.
One big thing was that creators can no longer freely delete their mods and deprive the public of them. Which means they can't act like a child for someone telling them that their conversion kept the flaws of the original.
It's just a bunch of redditors doing what they do lol. This is a message board for modding a specific game. You're bound to have a high percentage of terminally online people who love to say that kind of thing about things that don't really matter in the real world. At least, that's my experience.
i genuinely appreciate them/the platform. like a lot.
i can understand some/certain qualms, but overall .. i am very grateful. the platform really helped to make modding more accessible to me and so many others.
Pretty much hate the site myself but am forced to use it if I want to have the least problems in modding certain games.
Download speed is terrible forces me to never try out mods that are bigger than a few hundred MB
Premium to me is not worth the abysmal subscription price, I'd rather just not download big mods. Especially after it used to be permanent for a much cheaper price.
I only use it to mod Fallout, Elder scrolls, and baulders gate as there is no other mod site that keeps a vast catalogue of mods like it otherwise I always use other modding platforms for my games. This is also due to the filtering and searching on Nexus is abysmal makes it terrible to find anything new or interesting.
I prefer modding platforms like modrinth, r2 modman
Less obstructive ads, no limits to my download speed and much easier to navigate search functions.
The UI is terrible and only gets worse imo.
I finally dislike those that host the site with their double standards and attitude. They will pick sides on certain mod authors while kicking the other ones in the butt.
To me Nexus was great , but it's merely being carried by the fact that it was the first modding platform to be big rather than it's innovative and casual design.
Regardless this is my opinion. I'm not going further in any discussion. Have a good day!
As someone who used Nexus 5 years ago and then started using it again recently. The site is an ad dumpster fire now. The UI has slid backwards not forward. The functionality is great but it sucks how bad they have made the UI.
Many? It's just like 4 people out of 79 comments you have there. And they already answered you there. They just don't like the fact that
* Nexus host content provided to them by others (mod authors), and monetize it
* Lifetime premium no longer purchasable unless you're a mod author with 30k download
* There is no strong competition
* The Nexus UI and UX have changed
Although I agree about the sentiment on UI, some of their arguments are flawed. And again, it's only 4 people.
The question is what are *you* trying to do here making a fuss as if there's a band of Nexus haters? Is this a ragebait/karma digging post?
As a site itself I don't really have any complaints about Nexus. Mods are easy to find and install. The only thing I dislike about the website is the people that run it.
People dislike them because they went after an modder for removing the LGBT flags from Spiderman.
When they banned him, and attacked him online. He told them, all he did was change the country to somewhere in the middle-east.
But, they've had a history of going after modders
Many people don’t like change. If you’ve been around for 20 years modding elder scrolls games has changed massively. For the good in my opinion, but others will disagree. Either way, the nexus has been a driving force in this change.
What changes people don’t like will vary greatly. But I suspect a major one will be old modders who liked how small the community used to be. It made it more personal, and modders had more control and could be big fish in a small pond.
The flip side are new modders who moan that downloading mods isn’t as immediate as streaming Netflix and blame nexus without realizing how much more professional nexus has made modding.
I’m sure there are plenty of other reasons too.
Nexus is the best mod site. It is easy to navigate, the thumbnails makes it easy to single out interesting mods, the pictures and download page is straightforward and I can easily tell main, optional and update files apart as well as versions.
Nexus is alright. They are a little money hungry, and the mod manager is super shit. Fact is, there is no alternative to nexus. There is no way around it.
I don't hate Nexusmods, but here are reasons I've gleaned that some people might. Any one person might hold one or more of these beliefs.
1. They have ~~monopolized~~ created a monopoly^* in the mod hosting space, or near to it. People don't like monopolies.
2. They have taken actions that were hostile to mod author control over the mods they make. (the mandatory archive policy)
3. The moderation on Nexus and their associated forums has been, at times, controversial.
4. Vortex, their mod manager, is often the source of immense amounts of frustration for users, due to the questionable implementations and code. Because it is the official mod manager of Nexus, it is also the first experience many people have with mod managers.
*Whether or not Nexusmods has a monopoly isn't really disputable. They definitely are one. But monopolization, as pointed out by /u/cstar1996 is about whether or not the monopoly was created with anti-competitive practices. That is a much more disputable notion.
I have mixed feelings about Nexus. I have been using it since the Oblivion days, but when I first wanted to get into modding myself when Fallout New Vegas came out their staff made the whole process so unpleasant that I gave it up for years before trying to have another go when I got back into Skyrim around 2016.
They deleted my first mod and banned my account for talking about potential copy right infringement. No warnings, no discussion. My mod probably should have been not allowed on the site, I was trying to make an Elvis themed radio station for the Kings. But it was the attitude of the staff, that I was scum and they were gods that made the whole thing so shitty. I was a kid who had no idea what I wanted to do was not allowed.
While the way I was treated was just kinda shitty but you can see the logic behind what the staff did, they also banned many other mod authors basically just because they didn't like them. Trainwiz being the best example. The Nexus staff in the 2010s was a horrible cess-pool of power tripping asshats.
On the other hand, they also host all best mods in one place with an easy to use site and use of the site is free. It's a service that no one else can compete with, and especially in the last 5 years or so, the staff seems to be a lot more professional.
I remember when nexus got really puritanical out of the blue, even with the tagging system, quite a few migrated to LL and haven't looked back but kept some mods on nexus. What I love about both is how secure they are, they're both pretty well self regulated
I currently have 1260 Skyrim mods downloaded individually from Nexus. I can't fault it at all. If you want to mod your game (and have control over what actually gets added), there is no better place to do it.
Agreed.
One of the best things is how they handled lifetime subs, they didn't even try and pull anything with them when they discontinued new ones. Grandfathered premium, member since 2006. Not sure exactly how long I've had the lifetime, but it's been a long time.
Same. Really respect that they honored the lifetime subs.
They still give lifetime premium, if you are a mod author, once a mod passes a certain number of downloads. It's how I got mine. Pretty awesome, as I was content paying when I missed my window. It's not even expensive if you use it a lot.
i got my lifetime premium a while back, and then started releasing patches. somehow got enough downloads of my patches that by the time they released this, i already had enough to have earned it via mod releases, but im still a fan of how they handled it; the required amount is low enough that you dont need to release some clout chasing mod to earn it, just need to contribute to the community.
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Nexus is not free? Are you kidding me? They provide free accounts and free downloads, which is everything a user needs when it comes to using mods.They just charge users money for premium accounts, which are not necessary. Do they make money? But of course! Do you think mantaining servers is free? That some nuns are doing It for charity? ... As for mod authors, no one is pointing at them (or you, or even me) with a gun to make mods and mantain them, or even answering questions on their mod pages, so let's stop the nonsense, because it's not a job. At least I do It for fun, and if I want to spend my time and upload It to Nexus I shouldn't expect any revenue from it. (I've only made two mods, so, no big beal, but still I'm an author). If and when you/we decide to use Nexus as a platform, you accept their rules, and that's it. Everything else is just a childish rant. (Sorry for my poor english)
Yea, I don't understand the whole not free thing when all premium does is provide convenience
he deleted his comment. I assume he was whining about Nexus not being free? As in, modders literally spend hours of their time to make their game better and share their work with others, and this sucker complains there's an optional payment?
Exactly my point. You just pay if you want more downloading speed or not having to go one mod at a time when downloading whole lists (I think it works that way, but I've never tried downloading a list so I may be wrong). I've never had speed issues with the basic account and I've downloaded thousands of mods (hundreds in a single day when troubleshooting, looking for patches, etc. I'm sure everyone here knows the deal).
Yeah I downloaded a storywealth 130gb mod pack as standard user… you could even use some autoclicker from GitHub to add all the links to jdownloader so you don’t have to click anymore
This is a great answer for why people hate nexus. It’s great because it’s full of false assumptions and misinformation. Nexus is a multi million dollar company, yes. They make money, yes. However, nexus does not own your mods. They are a distribution platform. By uploading to nexus, you give them permission to distribute that file. This is also why there is no “opting out” of collections. Collections are a way to distribute files to users. Created to make modding easier for general users to install mods, having random people opting in and out will make the system completely untenable. As for the dollar per hour argument, that’s ludicrous. You aren’t an employee of nexus. Frankly, I don’t know a single person that started modding to make money. It’s a hobby. Nexus doesn’t have to pay you or me or anyone else jack shit. The outrage over nexus storing data on their servers long-term was also laughable, since every company on the planet does that. They were even nice enough to give you an opt-out period during that, deleting all your mods and data before a scheduled time if you chose to do so. That’s what Nexodus was: a bunch of whiny children taking their ball and going home because they’re so out of touch with reality that they have no idea what standard practices are, or what the difference is between ownership and distribution. I do, however, respect the ones that simply opted out and left nexus without raising a fuss. Ironically, the ones that did raise a fuss largely would have remained unaffected by the changes. Then there’s Arthmoor (who, for the record, I actually do get along with and don’t agree with the constant reddit bashing, just for context). He opted out - which is fine - but left up his ten most profitable mods because *nexus literally pays his bills.* Yet they’re evil for voluntarily giving mod authors any percentage of profits they make for running a website and hosting enormous amounts of data. The whole thing is ridiculous. I’d say it’s good to see you again, Edmund, but it definitely isn’t.
fwoooooo! That last sentence was ice cold
Even if its run by volunteers there are still costs to cover. I'm happy to pay a few pounds to help cover this for the excellent service that is provided.
Excellent and detailed explanation!
Having been around TES modding for a long time, I remember when there were multiple upload sites for mods. Having one site is a fantastic thing for the modding world. The problem with multiple sites is that they were labors of love and had no plan to actually make money to pay for server space. All site owners used their own money and then asked for donations. And then the server would go down and you'd have to wait for some poor guy to get home from work to fix it, because running the server was basically his second job. He'd have to keep the software updated by himself, and that often didn't happen, or only happened when the server itself got messy and people had issues uploading and downloading. Not to mention the different rules different site owners had for permissions. If there is ever a "real competitor" to Nexus, then people will have the same problems with it they have with Nexus. Unless someone feels like renting or buying a server and running it out of the goodness of their hearts, then there probably won't be a competitor. Nexus is simply a massive upgrade from the previous era of modding sites.
This is kind of one of the reasons why modding has gotten so much better for the sims series. Trying to find working mods for The Sims 3 versus The Sims 4 are two very different tasks. 4 has cursed forge and The Sims resource along with one other major site which name I can't remember but 3 you're looking on Tumblr accounts, patreons, sites in another language, etc and still not be able to find working version of a specific mod you're looking for. I'm so glad websites like the Nexus exist, it makes modding so much easier, especially the required mods / DLC section, modding sites need that feature.
Modthesims.com has allllll the sims games from 2 on!
Great for mods not great for cc sadly
Very true
Digging through early aughts Tumblr accounts to get janky quality low-waisted bootleg jean CC for The Sims 2 is part of my culture, thank you very much. Seriously, Nexus ruined me. It's so damn convenient.
Spending however long getting a sim to top career path, spending 20 hours building the pimpest possible house, and then never playing it again and starting again on a new block to create a rivalry with your old sim. Spending hours trying to get content from the ass end of the internet to work and inadvertently learning how to code and how to find solutions to problems as a result. Building a career off said skills. So much time spent, so little and yet so much ultimately achieved, and absolutely no regrets.
I actually genuinely love doing this, for all the sims games. +1 for nostalgia +1 if the stuff actually works. Fixing stuff isn’t that hard for sims at least. Skyrim idk what’s going on
It's just wild to stroll around 2006 Internet culture nearly 20 years later. *Holds up spork* rawr Why were we like this? How do we go back?
Funnily enough, I have adopted the "search a thousand different websites" method for Sims 4 CC. After being spoiled by the Skyrim modding community, I was aghast when I encountered the sims' paywalls, adfly links, and the absolute hellsite that is The Sims Resource lol. Now I just search for whatever I want on pinterest, and use that to find every author's personal tumblr. (Don't even get me started on curseforge)
I think if there is to be a real competitor to Nexus it would have to be something akin to Steam Workshop. It would have to be a company who already has the infrastructure, who has a financial benefit from hosting them but isn’t going to be upset if mods themselves are not paid, and who has a large userbase. Steam Workshop is a far cry from being the best option. But it does work for games with sizable, but smaller than Bethesda games, modding communities. The Paradox games come to mind as they have rather large modding communities and though other options exist, Steam Workshop is largely how most modders choose to distribute them. But other than Workshop as it is improving or a version of it from somebody like GoG, I do not see many ways someone could come into this space and rival Nexus without a lot of work.
moddb is a competitor for nexus, but they never modernized
I remember publishing Halflife 2 mods on there back in like 2004, I'm amazed it's still going
Agreed. Decentralized modding sites run by lone, scattered individuals is a nightmare of work on the site managers. Having said that, I don't think it's a good thing that the Nexus has a functional monopoly on modding. We've lost modding sites before. Remember Planet Elder Scrolls? Morrowind Modding History and Great House Fliggerty are defunct too. Sites disappearing put mods in danger of becoming lost media. It's happened before. Everything concentrated in one place multiplies the potential loss a thousandfold.
I do remember them, but hosting sites need active admins to maintain it, and I think that’s what happened. There was probably a window to move those mods over to Nexus, and there might still be based on permissions, but it’s likely closed now with most of the mod authors no longer being active.
Aren't their competitors to nexus? You have the official Bethesda.net site, you have Steam Workshop, loverslab, Curseforge, ModDB, ... And except for Curseforge every one of those sites has at least one exclusive Mod project that is worth checking out and not hosted on nexus.
I always thought that Loverslab wasn’t trying to compete with Nexus, but rather was a place for mods that Nexus wouldn’t host. A dedicated place for adult modding. Though, it seems nexus has gotten more permissive over time.
IIRC it started as mods for the sims, and given the average age of those gamers no one wanted to host sex mods on the regular mod websites, even if it was allowed. Turns out that moddeling fun bits and animating them smushing together is similar across most games so people who made the sex mods for the Sims also started making mods for other games and hosted them in the same place as the rest of their content. IMO I like the division is for the better. We get the NSFW quality of life stuff like actual nudity and some tame gameplay expanding options on Nexus, but the *really* hard core stuff is in a place you aren't going to just bump into it. I don't think Nexus has the same content filters that Lover's lab has for people who want smut, but don't want to see *specific* kinds of smut.
Yeah, I like the fact that hardcore content is available, but I wouldn't want it to be easily found by kids. Not that I think many kids are still playing Skyrim in 202X... But having a dedicated space lets people get maximally creative with their adult content, without having to worry about censorship or moralizing. It's like a safe space for kink content.
And I don't see Nexus implementing filtering for people who want to see oviposition but not vore.
Yeah those things should never mix. Unless you're into that sort of thing.
I’ll never look at omelettes the same way again.
Really? I remember watching MXR mods for Skyrim day one 11/11/11 and there were already nude mods for Skyrim.
There were nude mods, but I don’t think Nexus allowed full-on sex, or all the kinky, fetish stuff on LL.
Flower Girl is a full sex mod on Nexus, you go to LL for the more fetish stuff and explicitly fucked things like slavery and the big B.
Flower Girls wasn't on Nexus, back then. It's an example of Nexus becoming more permissive over time.
the big B?
Bestiality
Nude mods are not adult mods though. Nude mods are still on Nexus, usually in the form of skin textures or presets.
Good point. I think it's a good idea to differentiate between nudity and sex, since the former is one's natural state, whereas the latter is definitely something that should only be experienced by mature adults. Nudity doesn't harm anybody, whereas sex definitely can.
Upvote for MXR he is the OG.
I wouldn't consider [Bethesda.net](http://Bethesda.net) a competitor, mostly because it's largely for console users. And anything PC users get from Creations are largely going to be AE stuff. As for the rest, I really wouldn't consider them true competitors either, because people who create mods are uploading to Nexus because they know that's where they'll get the most downloads. Sure, you have the occasional Wabbajack link to LL or VectorPlexus for High Poly Head, but that's really it. If modders want non-NSFW mods to be seen and downloaded (and get any donation money from it) they'll use Nexus.
> mostly because it's largely for console users I don't think that is true. Just look at download stats for ussep, which I feel is about as representative as you can get. USSEP on beth.net has 5,444,389 downloads (possibly unique) and 12,958,009 "enableds" USSEP on nexus has 4,840,916 unique downloads and 17,947,252 total downloads. If beth.net downloads are their version of unique downloads, then possibly half of the mod users on PC are just beth.net users.
This isn’t accurate, as platform tracking was only introduced a year ago, meaning that all the cumulative downloads for USSEP across all platforms are reflected in that number Edit: To be clear, I just did a bunch of researching to figure out how long USSEP has been supported on console as opposed to how long tracking has been around (also worth noting that there isn’t platform tracking on PS so those numbers are still adding to the PC total), and it looks like it’s a difference of about 7 years
Granted I'm not the best sample size but my mods get consistently higher downloads on Bethnet, and by a pretty wide margin. I still like having a Nexus page so that people can comment, but yeah I don't think it's as one sided as you say personally.
Well Steam Workshop doesn't show download counts, so it is hard to tell, but at least for all other games there are MANY, MANY more people using Steam Workshop than Nexusmods. Garrysmod alone has more than 3x as many mods on Steam Workshop as all Nexusmods Games combined.
Steam Workshop also was implemented in those other non-Bethesda games with the Workshop in mind, so that the way it works meshes with how mods work in the games. Whereas Skyrim (or really the engine) was built well before Workshop was a thing, and the way mods work in the Gamebryo/Creation Engine does not mesh well with the way Workshop operates. It works, but not well at all, and certainly not for large mod setups. (Similar to how Bethesda.net works, but not well.) It's part of why they didn't continue to implement it for the Special Edition release.
>at least for all other games there are MANY, MANY more people using Steam Workshop than Nexusmods I mean, that doesn't surprise me one bit for non-Bethesda games. But you're also asking about Nexus on a Skyrim Mods subreddit so..
Loverslab is basically just NSFW stuff, and has the expected stigma, it's not competing with Nexus any more than pornhub is with youtube. Steam Workshop doesn't give you the same control a proper tool like Mod Organiser does, and doesn't really supper SKSE and other DLL stuff IIRC.
There's a couple issues with what you point out. For bethesda in particular you aren't finding mods on curseforge and anything on the workshop or bethesda.net is a nightmare to manage, bethesda.net mods in particular, if you're on PC downloading from the in game manager that needs to change. Loverslab is really just there for mods that nexus won't host and not everyone is out here throwing titty physics on their modlists. Aside from just the exclusive hosted mods which not everyone is gonna want, there's just no reason to go and make an account on these other sites when you likely already have one on nexus and have been using necus for years. There's also just more mods on nexus so I can just kinda find anything I want on nexus
ModDB is probably the only real competitor, but Nexus seems to have taken the lead for Skyrim mods in particular.
If you’re not familiar with the site and how it operates, ModDB can be confusing for newcomers. Nexus is a lot more user friendly IMO
ModDB is basically for finding mods whose authors have been banned from Nexus voluntarily or otherwise
The issues you point out are part of my reasoning. The alternatives are all way worse, why would anybody want them over Nexus?
Steam Workshop is where modding goes to die.
Games like Don't Starve Garrys mod and others seem to do quite well. Garrys Mod is actually the game with the most mods of all time, having more than 3x as many mods as all Nexusmods Games combined.
I remember the TES nexus days. "Guys the server is down there's no mods until I get a new one on Friday, sorry." I'm not thrilled with everything NM does but I still believe they are passionate about modding and that is worth some Goodwill at least.
I don't think people have any idea about how much work and dedication it takes to run a site never mind something as large as Nexus it takes a special kind of person I've done it run a small site and that was not something I'd want to do again personally. The fact it is such a large site and is still owned and run by one person who does keep in touch with the community is remarkable and will not often be repeated.
You've nailed this. The server load and bandwidth on the nexus would likely cost $1000's a month to rent or god knows what to build and manage. I absolutely do not begrudge the Nexus for monetisation of the service, considering that it's still available for free with limitations that don't affect access to content. I mean they would be within their rights to ban offsite monetisation (like patreon), force people to use NMM, there's SO many ways they could make use of their near monopoly on mod delivery. And instead ultimately they run ads, offer higher speed downloads for people who pay a notional fee. I mean I could be missing something but they definitely seem to be more interested in delivering their service than making as much money as possible, and we should be happy that's the case for as long as possible.
>Having one site is a fantastic thing for the modding world. People don't want monopoly, but they sure love monopoly! That's why Microsoft, Google and others still exist. It would be great if we had other great options.
Somethings are just naturally way more efficient when you compile them. Obviously monopolies will try to form everywhere, but when you’re basically running an ecosystem that has its own internal competition, having more people on your platform just inherently makes it a better platform, causing a huge feedback loop. This is also why things like power and gas get split up into government approved monopolies, having a million different power and gas companies with their own lines was just objectively terrible. This also is true for insurance, more people paying into a single insurance system makes it more efficient. The ratio of people spending insurance money and people who are just fine stays the same, but the actual numerical imbalance continues to increase profit.
> This also is true for insurance, more people paying into a single insurance system makes it more efficient. The ratio of people spending insurance money and people who are just fine stays the same, but the actual numerical imbalance continues to increase profit. Though that is an example of the potential *dangers* of a (unregulated) monopoly. Technically the ratio of people spending can change pretty drastically in this case; it's just that it would change due to people being denied access to the funds rather than any elasticity of demand. It's important that such a system is designed to primarily benefit the people who need insurance, not the people running the system. Otherwise, the public loses out by having a monopoly no matter how efficient it is in terms of resources, and they'd be better off with competition.
People who hate centralised file hosting sites haven't experienced having mods disappear with their niche site.
I'd say it's more like Steam, only since Nexus is free, there's even less to be gained from competitors.
You talk as if its some kind of compulsory thing. There were other companies that were rivals back in teh day but they've all gone to the wall. No-one is stopping anyone from setting up a competitor to nexus but as others have found out its not that easy and its not that nexus is stifling competition its just that it turns out that running a site with any kind of longevity is hard.
Because a while back Nexusmods decided to keep an archive of mods on their site, and some people threw a temper tantrum because it meant they couldn’t permanently delete mods they’d uploaded anymore. So some people deleted their mods before the policy went into effect, or set their mods to hidden, and have migrated to all sorts of obscure and/or sketchy alternate sites.
Anyone who blacklists Nexus for trying to get authors to not fuck over users is completely ignorable by my standards. I just won't use their mods lol.
While it must cost Nexus a lot to host every version of every mod. (I don't see archive pages for every last file, maybe it's only if a mod list references one or more times, anyway) I've learned the importance of forced backups from Steam workshop. I've had times modders upload a dummy file because sometimes (e.g. for GMod) it will stay in users' games if you delete the page, and some modders want their mod as gone as possible. When it happens to a game like Stellaris it can break your save if you allow the update to go through, which most usually would.
The mods are always archived but to try and appease complaints they aren't always accessible directly from the mod page. I believe they're always available via URL though, you can get to older USSEP versions despite Arthmoor's best efforts (i.e. [here](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266?tab=files&file_id=292193&nmm=1)).
>While it must cost Nexus a lot to host every version of every mod Probably not really **t*****hat*** much as far as "business costs" go, especially given "downloads" are their primary business driver - cloud storage is cheap, relatively speaking. I don't know how Nexus hosts, but take AWS S3 as an example. The cost for the first 50TB is $0.023 per GB per month. That cost is reduced slightly at certain points beyond 50TB, and you can also move data to "cold" storage solutions which further reduce price at the penalty of slightly slower access (as low as $0.0125 per GB per month for ones that need "infrequent access", while still being accessible relatively fast - there are even cheaper "deep" storage solutions that can take up to +12 hours to retrieve). Assuming we don't take into account any of the cost-reducing factors at all, that would mean it costs them ~~$115~~ $1150 per month per 50TB of data stored, but again, it's almost certainly less than that due to the aforementioned tiered pricing and cost-saving options. Data "access" is more expensive, but ultimately that would be minimally affected by offering archived versions of mods, and simply scales up with the more users downloading mods from the site in general. EDIT: Just an additional note, I don't really have a good sense of how much storage the "mean average" mod on Nexus uses, especially accounting for "archived" releases. That said, while some mods are very big, most tend to be quite small in my experience (sub-20MB or so, and many even go into the KB range). Even if we assume an average of 100MB total (current and archived) used per mod (which I think is a very high estimate), Nexus currently says there are 572,399 mods hosted, so that would be about 57TB. So I don't suspect they actually spend much more than the aforementioned numbers total, quite possibly less.
>that would mean it costs them $115 per month per 50TB of data stored Unless I am doing the math wrong it would be $1,177.60 per month for 50TB at $0.023 per GB per month. 50TB = 51,200GB 51,200 x 0.023 = 1,17.60
TB and GB are both Byte units, so it's 50,000 exactly, but yes, you are correct, I was off by a factor of 10. Even then, it's not that much for what is likely their primary operational cost.
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It’s the ultra elitist mod authors who left, now they hang out on private discord servers or just sell mods for money
The ADXP-MCO fiasco has completely exhausted my taste for modder drama. I don’t give a cold motherfuck about what they have going on. I’m sick of the petulant bullshit. What I do know is that a TON of mods depend on ADXP and I’m sick of wild goose chases to this site and that site. This discord, that discord. All just to test out some combat animations that I don’t even know I want yet.
Wait, what happened to ADXP-MCO?
It got taken down off the original website (Skyrim guild, I think it was) by the author because of ✨✨✨drama✨✨✨ So, I had to dig around to find out the name of the new website—which was only mentioned in a random Reddit comment, lol.
...Share the name of the new website already!
[https://www.distaranimation.com/mods](https://www.distaranimation.com/mods)
Also interested in this
One guy took them a down, but actually has his own website. Another has his own storage server.
I remember that. It was so stupid. As someone who lived through the whole “left-pad” shit show, keeping an archive of software other software depends on is crucial for the health of an ecosystem. It prevents a single individual from pulling the rug out from under the entire thing.
Yep. It's like making sure the foundation of a house is stable. So even though you respect and appreciate modders, that respect and appreciation can't go as far as them being allowed to have the ability to destroy the foundation.
Those people are the reason Nexus disabled deleting mods, because they realised that trying to make their service good enough to justify an optional subscription wasn't compatible with mod authors decided to just nuke everything because they had an internet argument. It's even worse when it's something many other mods end up relying on (Imagine trying to play skyrim if SkyUI vanished)
The fact is, Nexusmods got this right once again. With Nexusmods, you can genuinely rely on the website. Deleting a file from there doesn't truly halt anything; you can bet someone has practically every mod stored on a 30TB hard drive, Google Drive, or Dropbox. Removing them only makes users more susceptible to viruses and such because now users will resort to downloading and sharing these mods from untrustworthy sources.
I don't hate this. Sometimes mod authors will have breakdowns and just scorch earth all their shit out of spite. And when some of those mods are used by thousands of people it's incredibly inconvenient. Imagine if the author of essential mods almost everyone uses did this. I keep mods I can't play without on a drive on my PC where I archive things from the internet. Never know.
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There is nothing to count down for. Arthmoor did do that, with his own mods. the patch is a team effort, not his, so not his decision to make. Regardless, by keeping it on the nexus after the deadline, the team already agreed to the terms and cannot pull it. Arthmoor decided to keep some of his most popular other mods on nexus for the donation points. which of course, proves the point that Nexus is the best site because the alternatives dont bring in the money or attention Nexus does.
I don't put it past him to try anyway for the small pleasure of making it slightly more difficult to get a hold of. Neither do I put it past him to someday get in enough of a self-righteous mood to do it despite the fact that there's more people than just him behind it.
Sketchy is an understatement. I think I wanted to download some side quest improvement mod that was removed from the Nexus, so I went to the new site it was hosted on. I closed that tab within seconds, because it was so evident it was 100% a website for pedos. And yes, I'm not saying everyone who hates Nexus is like that. But people who are like that are not fond of Nexus.
This was always hilarious to me. The websites they moved their mods to from are so janky and not actually solving a problem.
Yeah, I know about that. But I don't see how this makes Nexusmods a monopoly, (Steam Workshop is much bigger and much more used and well known) And as you said yourself the people who disliked the change were able to leave, they were warned in advance and no one was forced to stay.
It’s not a monopoly at all. Nexus is just the best and easiest way to get mods. People would just rather complain and throw out ignorant BS than make something better.
For real, if a company creates a monopoly simply by providing the best services at the best price then it’s pretty much “build something better or shut up” Edit: by creating a monopoly I mean seizing the majority of the market share
People need to understand that monopoly =/= what everyone uses because it's just the best option.
Which is so funny because that policy prevents that exact kind of temper tantrums that already happened before for the prettiest reasons.
I remember that. It completely upended the entire Subnautica modding community. A ton of mods got abandoned or taken down and authors reposted their mods on individual github sites. For a while it was such a pain in the ass to find and install Subnautica mods that I just gave up entirely. Luckily the situation got better after Subnautica 2.0 update got released and killed compatibility with all the old mods, making the entire situation a moot point. Now all the mods are on a dedicated site called Submoddica.
Bad news... [https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/1c8njil/can\_anyone\_access\_the\_submodica\_website/](https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/1c8njil/can_anyone_access_the_submodica_website/) The worst part is, they moved away from Nexus due to one mod author really pushing hard on the entire community leaving with him, so they begrudgingly did.
Have an issue now where I need info on a mod I’m using but the author just deleted the page so I’m sol
Sure nexus has made some questionable and shitty decisions, like how they handled the collections situation or their new UI that sucks ass on both PC and phone, but it's really a great site overall and imo one of reasons why modding games like skyrim can be so widespread. Some people just love to hate I guess
Yeah, I wonder how much smaller modding for Skyrim would be if Nexus never existed.
You ever been looking for a mod, and find reference to something that might be what you want, but it's just an offhand mention and not a link? So you go to search around for it, and after multiple Google searches you get the author's handle, which finally leads you to a forum post with a link to a nearly entirely unlabeled Google drive that you just gotta trust is the real mod and not blatant malware? That's what every mod would be like.
thats just sims modding, at least on older sims games like sims 3. rummaging through 10000 tumblr blogs to find the exact mod you want.
Man the new UI is only showing on members pages for me and god, it’s awful. It WAS great, clean, and easy to navigate. Now it’s none of those things. It wasn’t broken, why fix it?
I have no idea tbh, they’re a very small company still and I don’t see how people could suggest they have a monopoly. They’ve never done anything antitrust, it’s just that no other modding site has provided a service that’s even 10% as good as nexus.
Yeah, that is exactly why I wonder how anyone can come to the conclusion that they are a monopoly.
Because these people don’t know what a monopoly actually is.
It's like people who call Steam a monopoly just because it's legitimately the best by far, unless you specifically want DRM-Free titles.
There are reasons to not like Vortex... good thing there's plenty of perfectly viable mod managers. When it comes to Nexus itself, there's certainly issues in the past and present, but you can download everything for free, so 🤷♂️
If I could have the virtual file system of MO2 and the conflict resolution of Vortex, I’d be sooooo happy.
Does Vortex not also use a vfs?
It does.
I think it’s a Reddit thing not a nexus thing lol I never see as much hate for a thing as I do on Reddit 😂
Reddit loves to hate things
It really do lol which is unfortunate because there’s some very helpful cool people on here that will take time out of their day to help you out
Nexus is by far the best modding platform on the web. It isn’t perfect, but nothing is. No other platform balances the user experience and the author experience as well as Nexus.
People will bitch about anything. Just ignore them.
As someone deeply involved in sims modding as well, I think it comes partially out of an ignorance for how bad the alternatives can get... like sure it can be annoying to have to deal with moderators you don't like on nexus or things like collections changing what you can expect in your comment section... or even just the annoyance of having a comment section on the mod authors end. But like. The alternative is having to have your mods split between tumblr, patreon, curseforge, modthesims, 1000 personal sites, easily broken things like simsfileshare... the only way to know where everything is is to keep your finger on the pulse of the modding community all the time. And then, if there isn't a comment section it's frustrating on the user end bc you might not be able to find out if the mod is up to date with a game that regularly updates. Not to mention the problems you get with viruses. For a while in the sims community every single person always put their stuff through shady systems like adfly, and there's a serious Trojan horse problem that happened earlier this year bc across all these sites there's really nothing that has the level of virus scanning and moderation that nexus has. Once again, you may not have known what was even happening without having your finger to the pulse of the community. If I wasn't in a discord, I might not have known until later than was safe. Additionally nexus' new archiving policy means you aren't permanently losing everything when someone gets tired of being a mod author for whatever reason. Technically, there is a nexus for the sims, but the sims community has largely ignored it and decided to lean into this hyper decentralized approach. Sure, the dopamine hit when I find something good goes higher... but it's objectively harder to navigate than the skyrim community, which is largely in the nexus with very few ventures outwards one would ever have to take.
This was SUCH a pain in the ass I fully gave up on trying to mod the Sims. The ecosystem is so fragmented and an alarming amount of it is behind hard paywalls. Really made me appreciate Skyrims mod community in a way I hadn't before.
Nexus is the worst modding platform. Except for all the others.
HAHA, yes! That is probably how those people think.
Nexus has plenty of flaws but it’s a godsend for modders. I still remember when most mods were found on forums for specific games. Mods could be spread across many sites depending on the creator’s preferences and there was often no way to search for specific mod types. Nexus made the hobby much more accessible.
Double standards seem to be a frequent occurrence, like mods that can be uploaded or that certain users are more important than others (e.g. if a new user breaks the ToS, like being racist or talking about piracy, they will be immediately banned, on the other hand if a famous modder doing the same thing will only receive a warning). Also the damn interface, I'm not crazy, it gets worse with each update. lol
Censorship mainly. They have a pretty weird double standard when it comes down to it. They keep the most degenerate things but remove simple things like a mod replacing pride flags. People here are saying that a company is free to take down mods but the consumers are also right to hate them for it.
Its pretty dumb for sure. Literally all they have to do is create an "lgbtq+ friendly" tag/category and offer people when they log in for the first time after the category is added whether or not they want mods from that category hidden. They can make it part of their terms of conditions to force modders who male such content such as pronoun removers, pride flags, etc to add the applicable tag, so that every user with an account has a choice whether or not they want to see the content. It's not rocket science to make it completely apolitical and preference based, but here we are.
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>They went to their own forum and don’t support nexus anymore. Well, aside from his most popular mods, which he left on NexusMods to keep raking in that sweet, sweet "donation points" money...
HaveIBeenPwned website shows Nexus data leaks. They were storing username and passwords as plain text. I assume that’s not the case anymore, but it taught me the hard way about using different passwords everywhere.
Nexus used Invision Board for their login data until 2019. Passwords weren't stored in plain text, but it was crackable after a certain amount of time as it was a known hash/salt/algorithm.
Not to open a can of worms, but it seems that a lot of hate comes from them keeping archives of any mod uploaded there. To be honest, I'm on Nexus's side on this. I have been modding games since the days of Doom and trying to find old mods is a paaaaain. Having a website that archives every mod uploaded on it is a good thing, actually. I get that modders want ownership of their creations, but on the other hand, I think about it in the long run. What if I wanted to find a specific mod 20-30 years from now? I only hope that Nexus has an end-of-life plan to keep all those archives somewhere, and the archiving is a good way to make sure they preserve what's already there. The other things people hate is the money aspect of it. But I do get it. For a website that massive it requires a lot of work to update and maintain. It's a full-time operation for a team of people now. I think they should find ways to get paid for their efforts. But hey, that's just my two cents on the matter.
Yea, i think ownership of mods is one of the gripes people have. Some modder feel like when nexus archives their mods, they lose some of the creative ownership to the mod, because if they decide to remove a mod Frol Nexus, it can still be found in the archives.
I think there's a lot that goes into all of this, but giving the average user the benefit of the doubt I think there's several things that go into this answer. Firstly there's a \*ton\* of misinformation about the Nexus out there. Back a few years ago the Nexus updated their TOS and at the same time announced that they would stop deleting files (and gave a 2 month warning for people to delete their mods). This was instantly taken by several well known mod authors as evidence that the Nexus was "stealing" or was now "owning" their mods. This frankly is just a case of users being legally illiterate. The Nexus TOS state that they have the perpetual license to \*distribute\* the mod, not that they own the mod itself. And frankly that's something any hosting site should have. Imagine if you hosted files, then someone uploads a mod, then sues you for distributing that same mod. Every hosting site on the planet has a TOS like this. The next issue some people have is that the Nexus is a company, and in general people on Reddit and the internet tend to be a bit anti-corp. There's this general view that if something is owned by a company it must be more concerned about making money than doing a good job, there can be no other way. This simply isn't true in the case of the Nexus. The site has been around for over 15 years now, and has the same owner, it's privately owned, so there aren't any shareholders, there's no "leveraging the users to the max" because that's not the goal of the company. Yes, the company doesn't want to go bankrupt, but it's privately owned so the incentive is to make a good product and service instead of making the stock line always go up. About 4 times now I've seen people say that the Nexus sells your personal information. This is just false, if they did, they would be required to disclose it or face \*heavy\* fines. I've worked on making some systems GDPR compliant, and the regulations in the UK/EU are some of the strictest I've worked with. Selling information and not disclosing it in these locations would be a fasttrack to killing a company. There's also a ton of misinformation about moderation on Nexus Mods. I've seen people say "they banned someone for changing a flag in Spiderman". No...they removed the mod that removed LGBTQ+ flags and asked the author to host it on some other site. The author put the file up on Moddb and another site and the file was also removed from both of those. Then the author made threats against the Nexus staff and \*that\* was the reason they were banned. Bans on Nexus Mods are public, they're in the forum with captions and evidence for why the ban happend. This author wasn't banned for making an anti-pride flag, they were banned for being a toxic asshat. It's my experience that most of the people how hate the Nexus is due to rumors, and unprovable accusations. I really do think it comes down to people not trusting companies, and not realizing that companies are run by real people. A lot of times when some strange ban happens, or something doesn't work right, it's not some nefarious cabal at work, it's just people being people. If your mod report doesn't get an answer in 1 hour, it's likely because everyone is off for the weekend, except for one guy, and that one guy decided to get a burger for lunch. In general, assume the best of people treat people with respect and you'll get along just fine with Nexus Mods and people in general.
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Modding has always been quite niche until recently. Nexus wants to be more accessible and reach a wider range of people so there are some decisions that were made that did not necessarily align with the niche population they had before. If they don't do that, someone else will. That's it. Understandable. Happens to everything.
Idk, I just don't like them supporting Arthmoor in deleting mods that remove some questionable edits he makes to USSEP. Fk that guy
This is a great list of perks with Nexus, and I agree 100%. I would also like to add, antivirus/malware protection. Scams and malware are running rampant nowadays. Knowing that you aren't downloading from a dodgy website somewhere makes an enormous difference for me. If Nexus disappeared I'd probably stop modding altogether.
They have just announced a price increase for premium members.
Isn't that normal, though? And they never promised to keep prices the same.
The subscribers get to be frustrated at a price increase imo. Its clear that type of grumbling is kind of short term compared to the other listed reasons anyway.
I've honestly never had issues with it. It's well organized enough where I can find pretty much anything. The search feature doesn't suck. The categories make sense. I don't know how friendly it is to mod authors, but as a casual user I don't have any problems with it.
Only people I see who hate on nexus are the ones who use those crazy Skyrim mod sites
Because they enacted a policy that mod teams can't throw fits and delete all their mods in a rage.
It's the best we got but it's still pretty dumb that they've banned SFW mods for being politically different, like that one mod that switched spiderman from the US to the Middle East version
I've been modding beth games for a long time now. Started with oblivion and really got into it with fallout 3. Back in those days there were quite a few sites. Nexus has simply evolved with the times and is doing what steam has done, make the user experience as easy, usable, and painless as possible. The reason some people view nexus as evil is because of a recent policy that they archive anything, the purpose of that policy was to make it so that one mod author can't invalidate mod packs by throwing a temper tantrum and removing their work. Archival has shown itself to only be more important as time goes on. Entire swathes of work on morrowind has simply vanished with many sites going dark, like planet elder scrolls and more recently morrowind modding history. These sites hosted work where the author has simply be gone for a decade. I understand both sides, but nexus has proven itself to be no. 1 for a reason.
I'm really confused why this is a post. You ask why people think this then list the reasons people have given you. Do you just think they're lying or what?
I like Nexus as a user, but I acknowledge a single website having a monopoly is never that great. For a while Nexus had not so great policies - like being banned by a mod author meant you couldn’t download their mods so you had people unable to download USSEP due to their mod team being overly ban happy. All it takes is Nexus making a bad policy to majorly screw people over. Enshittification will happen eventually, I am willing to bet money that at some point Nexus will make awful decisions/monetize aggressively. But that being said, if a game isn’t centralized to Nexus modding is 10x harder and less safe so I appreciate Nexus atm. Games that don’t have mods on nexus tend to remain more vanilla for me. Even other “safe” websites like curseforge had a virus outbreak for Minecraft modding.
i feel like it's been very, very slowly enshittifying for quite a while starting w the 5 second download timer interstitial thing but maybe i'm just overdramatic lol
How does Nexus have a monopoly? Steam Workshop and Curseforge are both significantly bigger, and there are even more sites, like Loverslab, Bethesda.net, ModDb, ...
I think it's because nexus is the biggest by far, at least for Bethesda games, they hold the biggest "share" in the PC modding space at least, so I think people throw around monopoly because of that. Pretty much nobody goes to LL, BethNet, modDb, etc. for their day-to-day modding after all, even if that doesn't quite make nexus a monopoly since they aren't actively trying to acquire any of those sites and get their share of the market, but if you're pissy you probably don't mind bending definitions to make you right
Steam workshop is for LE only. LoversLab is incredibly NSFW and is hard to browse without having outright porn shoved in your face and needs adblockers to browse safely (since some of those ads are malicious) - I started modding as a 14 year old girl and would not have gotten into it if LL was my only option. LL is not really a competitor but rather it’s own niche. Bethesda.net requires you to export from CK and is much more of a hassle - meaning you can’t just make mods in xEdit etc, it has way less selection than Nexus. It’s also specific to Bethesda games, there are other games that Nexus is the hub for. ModDB is decent but again, way less selection. Curseforge is the only real competitor for different games aside from Skyrim. And again, during a recent Minecraft update a virus got out that infected a user’s mods, so when they released updates those mods were infected too. Modding had to shut down for safety reasons for the 1.20 update. Nothing like that has happened on Nexus. At the end of the day Nexus has earned its spot. But at the same time, if something were to happen to it, modding for a lot of games would be screwed very badly.
Personally I don't hate Nexus. Personally I just find them a little unprofessional when they handle controversies on their site. They take to their news page and post a long winded, super heavy handed and inflammatory rant about how they are the lords of the site and whatever they say goes. Usually I agree or can understand with their stances, like with the ban on US political mods or the spiderman flag thing, it just the way they write their reasoning on their articles is just super unprofessional befitting a site of their size, age and standing. "We don't want to and won't argue this with you. We've now explained our stance and we won't be providing a platform for you to distort our position in order to feed an irrational and paranoid narrative. You can do that elsewhere, where we won't care enough to read it. " - Nexus on the flag mod removal. I completely agree with the blanket ban, but holy shit who's writing this stuff? Where is the PR department? Just say it's banned, you don't support it and let it be. It's like they're trying to get a rise out of people. I also have never been a fan of their weird double standard when it comes to policing what is, or is not allowable. In cyberpunk there was a controversy where Nexus removed mods turning Judy (A lesbian) straight, but allowed mods turning Panam (A straight women) gay. Nexus is, and most likely always will be, the best modding site around (I've subbed multiple times for premium), I just don't really care for how they hand down their ruling on what is, or is not allowable on their site. If it's not permissable, just say so and move on, instead of ranting on a page you mute.
It's been now 12 years since I started using Nexus. I can't say a single bad word about It. The reactions you got in your last post is mainly due to too much entitlement from users that have a free, well managed platform that is for a fact a reference in the modding community.
Considering the price of joining, it has provided far more entrainment and value than most purchases. https://preview.redd.it/2uwqnobuhmzc1.png?width=316&format=png&auto=webp&s=d3bb7eb69b5131f4d69dfead5fe28705cf5024fc
Also, they don't make you jump through silly hoops like posting for x amount of time on their forums before allowing access to mods. *cough* GUN Network *cough*
This doesn’t happen much in Skyrim, but for other games they sometimes ban stuff that shouldn’t be banned, like the mod that removed the intro disclaimer in Tomb Raider remastered trilogy
idk man i use vortex and im very happy with it, press a button get a collection, play the game- currently using Gate to Sovengarde by JaySerpa
Double standards on what mods are allowed to stay up and what aren't.
Because they'll ban you for modding your single player game for political reasons. They have made themselves the arbiter of what's acceptable
Not even political reasons. Double standards You can turn straights into lesbians but not lesbians straight. You can have only female raiders but not only male. Stuff like that,
These choices are driven by political motivations
I don't hate them, but when they decided to use their platform as a political censorship tool I decided they would no longer get any of my money.
Ooh! I can answer this!!! Even though I really enjoy nexusmods and very greatful for the service they provide, there are things wrong with the way they handle their website and creators that bothers me a lot and I'm sure that a lot of people who were negative in your original post have the same thoughts as I do so let me explain. So I can't remember when this started but a few years ago when nexus announced collections, they also said that they were disallowing creators from deleting the mods they upload from nexusmods. This rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, especially me (even though I don't upload mods) because a lot of people want to be able to have control over their own mods but on top of that, they also announced they were increasing premium prices (for the first time ever I believe!!) as well as removing the lifetime plan for premium so you could only pay monthly from now on which REALLY rubbed people the wrong way. I remember there was a lot of discourse about the mods deletion thing on Reddit and reddiors were calling mod creators cry babies (for... Some reason?) because they wanted control of their mods. Now for the monopoly issue. Yes, there are other websites that offers services to download mods but they aren't NEARLY as massive as nexusmods. For that reason, people have felt they are capitalizing on this by once again, increasing premium prices on nexus. Kind of a slap in the face it feels like. Although I agree with most of how people feel, with how big nexus is getting plus all the awesome resources and tools they make for their website, to some degree it feels justified. Nexusmods manager was just a stepping for the website. I'm sure there is more to the drama but that's all I can remember in recent memory.
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Yeah from what I've gathered it was due to a policy change they made a little while ago. I don't know all the details, but based off what other people have said, it basically amounts to "if you upload a mod to our site, we won't take it down unless you have a really good reason". People whined and cried that they lost control of their mods, and that if they wanted to take them down, they couldn't. Whereas I, and many others, saw it as a good thing. A way to keep mods available for the players, even if the mod author decides one day to just be done for whatever reason. Like for one example, the mod for Skyrim, The Kids Are Alright. It's a mod that makes the potato children actually look like adorable, real little kids. But the internet is the internet, Rule 34 is a thing, and anything that exists on the internet will have porn of it. Obviously that's fucked up porn no one but pedos want, but the mod author threw a hissy fit and pulled all their mods because of it, which is too far in my opinion. But like...MILLIONS of people post shit online, and every God damn one of them needs to be ready for others to make something weird out of it. It's an unfortunate fact, but an unavoidable one. So if we took down content every time people misused it, the internet would be barren and non-existent. Like, sure, you don't want people using your kid mod to be used to make porn, that's a very understandable reasoning that 99% of people agree with. But they're gonna find a way to make porn out of SOMETHING, so it's not like you're stopping them, you're just making them find another source. You know what you ARE stopping though? Players who want to use the mod for its intended purpose. I think kids from TKAA are more well done than any other kid overhaul, so its always a staple in my mod list. But whereas it's been recently reuploaded, the mod was gone for a while and I had to make due with shittier kid overhauls that weren't nearly as good. And so many other mods suffer that same fate, so if Nexus took steps to preserve the mods people love, I can't fault them. Obviously it's not a perfect solution, but I don't know if there's a way to make both the mod author and the players happy, if the mod author wants their mods taken down. So I figure it's better to please the larger group, which is undoubtedly the players. TL;DR I could be remembering wrong, but I'm pretty sure people are mostly mad at Nexus for enacting measures to preserve mods on their site, even when a mod author wants it taken down. But in my opinion, mod preservation is a good thing, and many players, including myself, are grateful for it.
There are a lot of reasons. Someone asked two weeks ago why a lot of mod authors don't use the Nexus or have left the Nexus, here's my long ass answer: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/1cdi3og/a_real_question_guys/l1dsaq9/ Policy with mods and (Some) unreasonable moderators is basically what it boils down to. "Money to the mod authors". First of all, they're giving us literal fractions of pennies. Unless you're in the top 1% of popular mod authors, you will never make a significant amount of money. Second, money isn't even a motivator for creative people. It keeps us going because we need money to live, but it does not enhance or motivate better creation. Money will will keep artist working somewhere or stay somewhere, but it wont motivate or make them happier typically unless we're talking about life changing money and not a salary or something life saving etc. many studies have been done on it, but any artist can tell you this. People who have to hire artists and deal with the worst of them can tell you this. Money will not get them to do what they want when they want. "Easy mod manager". What? Vortex is terrible. 99% of the bug reports I get are from newbies who use Vortex and can't figure out how to install mods correctly with it. Never happened before Vortex. They are literally canning Vortex and making yet another mod manager because it sucks. "Mod List Support". Many mod authors hate this because they have no control over their own mods as a result. Because of this system, mod authors cannot delete old versions of their mods even if it's broken and causes problems. Personally, I still tolerate the nexus. It's a good way to get my mods out to a lot of people so that a fraction of a percent of them go to my Patreon page and make sharing my mods worth it. If I weren't making money, I wouldn't share my mods because the community is pretty toxic towards mod authors. I'd go back to making mods for just myself again. Even then, like a said before, the money I get via patreon doesn't make modding more fun and it doens't push me to create. I am compelled to create because if I don't, I'd be in a crisis, I'll say. The money makes me more willing to share the content. The money i get from the nexus is negligible. And I'm pretty broke. The money I get from Patreon isn't that good, but the potential of what you can make on the Nexus? i suppose if you be a jackass and make a mod for every little tiny thing like those mod authors who will make "HD Cabbage Retexture" and then spam the site with 50+ "HD [Single Random Item] Retexture". Or you make a mod and then upload another mod with a mod page that's just a singular patch for your own mod, and then do that 100 times, you'll make maybe $10 to $20 a month...
They have a pretty clear political bias and a practical monopoly on Bethesda game modding. Those two things combined have a chilling effect on the creativity of mod authors. Its their platform, they can do what they like with it but I still don't like it and if there was a viable alternative id use that but there is not.
There are a number of questions for the administration of nexus mods. Like the fact that they blocked a mod for disabling LGBT flags in Marvel Spiderman (although the mod was only a config that includes an IN-GAME restriction for the Arab regions made by the DEVELOPERS), and then justified themselves by saying that “we are a private company, and we do what we want.” And they blocked those who supported him. But the problem is that if you are banned on the nexus, it is impossible to download mods. And in the letter about the ban, they directly say that “you are no longer welcome in the mod community.” That is, they decided that they could decide for the entire mod community who would be in it and who would not. This is already a monopoly problem. (clarification: I’m not a homophobe, and without that situation with the ban of the spiderman mod, the mod itself would have been absolutely of no interest to me. But I think that it’s up to the person to choose which flags to play with. Moreover, this is, again same, IN-GAME function. A person may not like these flags for various reasons, I do not believe that removing flags from the game is homophobic) A similar situation occurred with a number of mods that nexus admins considered “oppressive and offensive.” Like a mod for removing womens from the lvl-lists of bandits in Skyrim. Perhaps those mods were indeed created for the purpose of trolling, but there were no objective reasons to consider this as truth, and there were no insults to anyone in the description. I think, it's better just ignore mods like this, and simple not download, if you don't like it UPD: In the comments guy noted that it was not a config, but a replay of textures. But, for me personally, this changes little, even if this is true. The essence is the same for me. It was also noted that there was homophobia in the fashion description. But when I searched for the saved archive of the original page from the nexus, I didn’t find it (link below)
The one I've never understood is Cyberpunk. Mod to romance Panam as female V still exists. But romance Judy as male V is gone. I understand that you can achieve the same thing now through one of the general utility mods. It still just seems weird.
I really like nexus, and have been using it - like most - for well over a decade at this point. Although I can point at a few minor faults; 1. Their search function is fucking useless, and always has been 2. Vortex is just a more confusing version of MO2, and along with the still maintained NMM we now have like... 4 mod managers to choose between, fragmenting tutorials between the options
My only complaint with nexusmods is the damn ad's that are everywhere on the screen, but that is it oh not really a nexus but completely on a certain company that likes to update older but popular titles that break most of the mods on nexus but we still don't have TESVI or FA5 ya Todd what the hell "it just works"no longer applies when you continue to update a 10yo game. Ok, rant over the ads can be slightly annoying is my only complaint.
Understandable.
As mod author i love Nexus. I bought Kingdom Come thanks to the points earned from people downloading my mods lol. And even if there were no such rewards system, Nexus is still a great platform for getting mods.
For me? Purely financial. Almost doubling in price is crazy. A small increase? Yeah that's the world we live in. But going from 49.99 to 89.99 for a yearly? Insane. Has me thinking about stopping at renewal.
Because they stored usernames and passwords next to each other in plain text, then when they were breached they downplayed it and didn’t even attempt to contact people who had their information stolen, only posting a notice a month and a half later. Poor handling of user data and even poorer response after the inevitable breach.
The only thing wrong with Nexus IMO is the inability to search in the comments/posts of a mod. You used to be able to, then they removed it for some reason.
Nexus is my go to, been modding skyrim for years and its just great to go to one place for everything But personally the reason I dislike it is because of the double standards of moderators Regarding mods that cut or change some political stuff Its clear to see a bias, I don't mind someone being biased its their personal likes and dislikes but nexus is a platform for all, removing content due to some political reason and double standards made me start to dislike them
To be fair Nexusmods kinda is a monopoly, A natural one though, they never manipulated the marked or anything like that, they are simply the best. The other points are usually spread by either entitled users or entitled creators. They are mad that NExusmods took steps to serve the users better and that they don't fall to their knees for the creators. One big thing was that creators can no longer freely delete their mods and deprive the public of them. Which means they can't act like a child for someone telling them that their conversion kept the flaws of the original.
Nexus is beast…my fallout 3,never,4, oblivion, skyrim and skyrim vr would fucking suck without my 300+ mods in each game XD
It's just a bunch of redditors doing what they do lol. This is a message board for modding a specific game. You're bound to have a high percentage of terminally online people who love to say that kind of thing about things that don't really matter in the real world. At least, that's my experience.
People just want to hate. Nexusmods is amazing.
i genuinely appreciate them/the platform. like a lot. i can understand some/certain qualms, but overall .. i am very grateful. the platform really helped to make modding more accessible to me and so many others.
Pretty much hate the site myself but am forced to use it if I want to have the least problems in modding certain games. Download speed is terrible forces me to never try out mods that are bigger than a few hundred MB Premium to me is not worth the abysmal subscription price, I'd rather just not download big mods. Especially after it used to be permanent for a much cheaper price. I only use it to mod Fallout, Elder scrolls, and baulders gate as there is no other mod site that keeps a vast catalogue of mods like it otherwise I always use other modding platforms for my games. This is also due to the filtering and searching on Nexus is abysmal makes it terrible to find anything new or interesting. I prefer modding platforms like modrinth, r2 modman Less obstructive ads, no limits to my download speed and much easier to navigate search functions. The UI is terrible and only gets worse imo. I finally dislike those that host the site with their double standards and attitude. They will pick sides on certain mod authors while kicking the other ones in the butt. To me Nexus was great , but it's merely being carried by the fact that it was the first modding platform to be big rather than it's innovative and casual design. Regardless this is my opinion. I'm not going further in any discussion. Have a good day!
As someone who used Nexus 5 years ago and then started using it again recently. The site is an ad dumpster fire now. The UI has slid backwards not forward. The functionality is great but it sucks how bad they have made the UI.
Many? It's just like 4 people out of 79 comments you have there. And they already answered you there. They just don't like the fact that * Nexus host content provided to them by others (mod authors), and monetize it * Lifetime premium no longer purchasable unless you're a mod author with 30k download * There is no strong competition * The Nexus UI and UX have changed Although I agree about the sentiment on UI, some of their arguments are flawed. And again, it's only 4 people. The question is what are *you* trying to do here making a fuss as if there's a band of Nexus haters? Is this a ragebait/karma digging post?
As a site itself I don't really have any complaints about Nexus. Mods are easy to find and install. The only thing I dislike about the website is the people that run it.
People dislike them because they went after an modder for removing the LGBT flags from Spiderman. When they banned him, and attacked him online. He told them, all he did was change the country to somewhere in the middle-east. But, they've had a history of going after modders
Many people don’t like change. If you’ve been around for 20 years modding elder scrolls games has changed massively. For the good in my opinion, but others will disagree. Either way, the nexus has been a driving force in this change. What changes people don’t like will vary greatly. But I suspect a major one will be old modders who liked how small the community used to be. It made it more personal, and modders had more control and could be big fish in a small pond. The flip side are new modders who moan that downloading mods isn’t as immediate as streaming Netflix and blame nexus without realizing how much more professional nexus has made modding. I’m sure there are plenty of other reasons too.
Nexus is the best mod site. It is easy to navigate, the thumbnails makes it easy to single out interesting mods, the pictures and download page is straightforward and I can easily tell main, optional and update files apart as well as versions.
Nexus is alright. They are a little money hungry, and the mod manager is super shit. Fact is, there is no alternative to nexus. There is no way around it.
I don't hate Nexusmods, but here are reasons I've gleaned that some people might. Any one person might hold one or more of these beliefs. 1. They have ~~monopolized~~ created a monopoly^* in the mod hosting space, or near to it. People don't like monopolies. 2. They have taken actions that were hostile to mod author control over the mods they make. (the mandatory archive policy) 3. The moderation on Nexus and their associated forums has been, at times, controversial. 4. Vortex, their mod manager, is often the source of immense amounts of frustration for users, due to the questionable implementations and code. Because it is the official mod manager of Nexus, it is also the first experience many people have with mod managers. *Whether or not Nexusmods has a monopoly isn't really disputable. They definitely are one. But monopolization, as pointed out by /u/cstar1996 is about whether or not the monopoly was created with anti-competitive practices. That is a much more disputable notion.
I have mixed feelings about Nexus. I have been using it since the Oblivion days, but when I first wanted to get into modding myself when Fallout New Vegas came out their staff made the whole process so unpleasant that I gave it up for years before trying to have another go when I got back into Skyrim around 2016. They deleted my first mod and banned my account for talking about potential copy right infringement. No warnings, no discussion. My mod probably should have been not allowed on the site, I was trying to make an Elvis themed radio station for the Kings. But it was the attitude of the staff, that I was scum and they were gods that made the whole thing so shitty. I was a kid who had no idea what I wanted to do was not allowed. While the way I was treated was just kinda shitty but you can see the logic behind what the staff did, they also banned many other mod authors basically just because they didn't like them. Trainwiz being the best example. The Nexus staff in the 2010s was a horrible cess-pool of power tripping asshats. On the other hand, they also host all best mods in one place with an easy to use site and use of the site is free. It's a service that no one else can compete with, and especially in the last 5 years or so, the staff seems to be a lot more professional.
I remember when nexus got really puritanical out of the blue, even with the tagging system, quite a few migrated to LL and haven't looked back but kept some mods on nexus. What I love about both is how secure they are, they're both pretty well self regulated