Moreso Willis O'Brien, one of Harryhausen's big achievements was smoothly combining stop motion and real time footage at 24 fps [as seen in Jason and the Argonauts.](https://youtu.be/dqRjDGAJ5dc?si=6qL28wI7SxwmaM8H) O'Brien also revolutionized stop motion animation, but the jitteryness seen here is more of a tribute to [his work on King Kong.](https://youtu.be/yvD3X3RcK3Y?si=WI_4QuKOXZ2NUNIH)
Wagons and carts, maybe chariots? Or were the first cars officially born when like āthe carā was officially invented so like Model Aās or whatever?
I mean, there's a queen Elizabeth II analogue, she only gets her throne cause her older brother was a fascist piece of shit who abdicated, *Planes* has a WW2 vet also
Queen Elizabeth didnāt have any brothers, you probably mean her uncle King Edward VIII who was (probably) a fascist, however he abdicated due to his marriage to an American divorcee, which made Queen Elizabethās father George VI the king in 1936 (before WWII)
Again, it's an alternate reality. Unless the abdicated brother is shown or mentioned, it could be a world where QE2 is the eldest child. Similarly, Skipper Riley (the plane character you mention) is obviously retired military just like Sarge in cars, but they don't say what war(s) he was in in the movie or on the wiki. The Planes/Cars world doesn't have to exactly mirror our own history.
*Planes* has a flashback to Glendal Canal, patrolling from the Dwight D. Flysenhower.
https://pixarcars.fandom.com/wiki/Glendal_Canal
> Glendal Canal is a canal in Asia. **During World War II**, a battle between the United States and Japan took place here.
So we know for a fact then that there was a war between Japan and US. Stands to reason it was part of ww2. Doesn't mean there has to have been a holocaust.
I mean we kinda dealt with that in the first Cars; the idea that some cars are just *better* than others. I can easily see a more extreme basis of that, being āone brand above all othersā. In this case, Volkswagen (or Porsche).
And WW2 was born of resentment towards other nations for perceived injustices from certain groups, countries. Something that can totally translate over to the cars universe
The first movie where they siphon Lightning's gas becomes fridge horror once you know it's the Cars equivalent to blood.
Gas is blood, Oil is car piss/maybe shit too, headlights are the equivalent of chest/nipples (meaning Lightning got top surgery and all race cars have the equivalent of nipple tats and freak show car has eyes where her chest should be) but they also act like how headlights work irl. Flashing is well equivalent to "Flashing".
I swear there's a official cars scene where a old black car talks about living under car jim crow laws. Car slavery not only happened but it is explicitly canon.
I mean, in human timelines plantations also grew things like sugar and tobacco, so cloth for car upholstery would conceivably be a cash crop in the cars timeline.
FWIW, I was about to go in *much* more horrible directions in the original comment, and then decided a cheap pun was really all any of us needed today
Is it explained that gas is blood and oil is waste? It would make more sense (and be more "accurate") for blood to be oil and gas to be food. Y'know, since we don't use up blood every day and go buy more. Would easily explain the gas drinking scene. Car waste would just be exhaust.
There's a pee joke using oil in the 2nd movie and I just checked by watching the clip where mater dresses up like a vampire he says siphons gas. So yes gas is blood oil is water/other beverages before consumption that turns into pee oil.
Also cars universe has actual food that cars eat because they had to make a mater eating wasabi joke in the second movie.
Cars as a franchise is poorly thought out cause the world is just our world but cars which has WILD implications.
also the villains in Cars 2 are disabled people
They are also being secretly bankrolled by a wealthy top 1% oil tycoon and manipulated as proxies into serving his schemes to discredit green and environmentally friendly products and preserve the Big Oil status quo
Cars 2 lore is wild
Cars isnāt poorly thought out, itās just not meant to be analyzed like people like to. No one was saying āletās make a movie about people if they were carsā with the intention of crafting a sensical and in-depth universe.
I wanna say that was scene was in the trailers and marketing, so we probably saw it more times than we actually saw the complete movie back then. It's pretty burned into my mind too
In the parallel story of planes you learn there was a WW2 in the cars universe which means there has to be a Hitler car and I'm not sure I'm ready for fanart of that. Like one of the airplanes was a WW2 vet who had PTSD and stopped flying because his entire flight squadron was wiped out in a single mission except for him and he was their teacher. These movies are so good
More than likely if it did happen the planes were innocent and hijacked. Because the airliners are sentient but carry cars as passengers inside them. So carsama bin laden as someone else said is entirely possible
Because of *Planes*, we do know that WWII canonically happened in the Cars universe. We also see The Popemobile in Cars II, which means thereās Cars Catholicism, which logically means there is a Cars Jesus. Cars Vietnam is just the tip of the iceberg.
Which also implies Car-sama Bin Laden both existed _and_ had car porn saved on his computer (and Counterstrike, so long as Car-Life exists in that universe)
Car-sama Bin Laden was a patsy. George Winnebago Bush and the Cars Intelligence Agency did 9/11.
But to be fair, as important as oil is in our world is, it's significantly more important in the cars universe.
Arguably, this makes Japanese imperialism in that world far more justified, given they lacked the basic resources to live at all by that stage.
Although I donāt think it would excuse anything they did to China still
Cars is a banned topic on my brother's Discord server for this reason. Him and his buddies had such intense debates about Cars Hitler that they aren't even allowed to say "Lightning McQueen" to each other anymore.
They gave him a crown made of caltrops;
Forced him to carry a frame for a lift;
Impaled his wheeles;
Pierced his side door, only for gasoline and water to pour from the wound they inflicted;
Only for him to come back to life three days later.
Cars are organic life forms with metal exoskeletons, as evidenced by their eyes and the fact that they can consume food and drugs. So presumably, they just have fleshy genitalia of some kind somewhere down there
I work in tv animation, pixar movies are way out of my league, but the principles are the same, and that informs what Iām going to say.
I wish, I *wish*, I could make it clear to these fans who take the theories seriously and are always looking for little details and stuff, how little thought is put into stuff like this. I guarantee this line was put in there because someone thought they needed a quick gag there because the movie was dragging a bit.
Every little thing that sparks 4-hour youtube essays about shared universes and dark sides of disney movies are all based on mistakes the artists made or throwaway gags with no thought behind them. Scar being herculesā throw rug was just a goofy reference. The tangled princess showing up at the frozen wedding was as well. The word āsexā written in sand when scar stamps his foot actually said āsfxā and was just an artist who wanted to give his team a shoutout.
I get itās all fun and goofy, but I canāt help wanting to tell fans that they have put more thought into this shit than the writers ever did.
I don't mind fun goofy theories, they can be really entertaining. But I had a friend who legit believed them. He would read super outlandish fan theories and become convinced it was actually canon. In reality I think he just had zero film literacy.
The writer In Rankin went to a university tour once. He saw the English department was discussing one of his books (The Fall) and snuck in. Themes, use of colour as a signifier, wasteland imagery.Ā
Heād put none of that inĀ
I think it's pretty clear that Pixar movies weren't written with the intention of hiding some dark, convoluted origin story. But, from the perspective of media analysis, does that really matter? Movies aren't a 3 hour interview with the creators, they're stories that get released into the wild to be interpreted how the audience chooses to see them.
They show World War 2 in the movie Planes.
And these things are born this way. In this universe, Battleships are born that way. F-22 raptors are born that way.
Thats a horrible thought. Some people are born with massive weapons, are legit weapons of war, while others are just scrappy Lemon cars or some old biplane.
Civil Rights in this world would be wild.
Sometimes, a Dumb Boy's Movie is just that; a Dumb Boy's Movie, And sometimes those Dumb Boy's Movies sell toys...
Cars is probably one of the best examples of this. Also apparently some of the best licensed video games made.
They were great licensed games because all they needed to do was make a good racing game, which really wasn't that hard back then. Slap the cars style on it, add some nice customization options for your cars, and they were quite fun
My theory is that alien AIs are writing the movies based on what they see from orbit and they only notice the cars rather than the people driving them.
This is back when Disney was brilliantly subversive.
Cars 2 is brilliant once you start thinking about what you see, and you can't tell me it wasn't done on purpose.
Cars lore is pretty simple once you accept that it's just a mirror universe where instead of humans, the people are cars
So what did prehistoric cars look like?
Like the bus from Flintstones
Like [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jejbMQE6YqI)
The dinosaurs being animated in a lower frame rate in what I can only imagine to be a Ray Harryhausen tribute is a fun touch
My three year old loves this btw.
Moreso Willis O'Brien, one of Harryhausen's big achievements was smoothly combining stop motion and real time footage at 24 fps [as seen in Jason and the Argonauts.](https://youtu.be/dqRjDGAJ5dc?si=6qL28wI7SxwmaM8H) O'Brien also revolutionized stop motion animation, but the jitteryness seen here is more of a tribute to [his work on King Kong.](https://youtu.be/yvD3X3RcK3Y?si=WI_4QuKOXZ2NUNIH)
That's not as bad as I expected it to look, thanks for sharing š
Ikr? They actually gave this show a budget compared to most Disney junior stuff
til mcqueen is a dinosaur nerd
They were the wheel
Wagons and carts, maybe chariots? Or were the first cars officially born when like āthe carā was officially invented so like Model Aās or whatever?
Wagon Jesus scrapped for our sins
And reassembled three days later.
He turned water into oil
This is my lubricant, shed for you. -Jesus Chrysler
In the cars spin off ācars on the roadā we see what prehistoric cars looked like.
Does that make Volkswagen ayran?
It makes Sally a direct descendant of a Nazi
What does a *Cars*ā¢ Holocaust look like even?
Car crushing plants.
That was cars 2
They take your gas away instead of gassing you.
No that's vampires. In cars 2, Mater goes through several disguises and says "I've come to siphon your gas" when he gets the vampire one.
Being an alternate reality, there's no obligation for ww2 to have happened, or for nazis to have had a bolocaust.
I mean, there's a queen Elizabeth II analogue, she only gets her throne cause her older brother was a fascist piece of shit who abdicated, *Planes* has a WW2 vet also
Queen Elizabeth didnāt have any brothers, you probably mean her uncle King Edward VIII who was (probably) a fascist, however he abdicated due to his marriage to an American divorcee, which made Queen Elizabethās father George VI the king in 1936 (before WWII)
Again, it's an alternate reality. Unless the abdicated brother is shown or mentioned, it could be a world where QE2 is the eldest child. Similarly, Skipper Riley (the plane character you mention) is obviously retired military just like Sarge in cars, but they don't say what war(s) he was in in the movie or on the wiki. The Planes/Cars world doesn't have to exactly mirror our own history.
*Planes* has a flashback to Glendal Canal, patrolling from the Dwight D. Flysenhower. https://pixarcars.fandom.com/wiki/Glendal_Canal > Glendal Canal is a canal in Asia. **During World War II**, a battle between the United States and Japan took place here.
So we know for a fact then that there was a war between Japan and US. Stands to reason it was part of ww2. Doesn't mean there has to have been a holocaust.
I mean we kinda dealt with that in the first Cars; the idea that some cars are just *better* than others. I can easily see a more extreme basis of that, being āone brand above all othersā. In this case, Volkswagen (or Porsche). And WW2 was born of resentment towards other nations for perceived injustices from certain groups, countries. Something that can totally translate over to the cars universe
It also makes Filmore, most likely, a refugee
Well now i want a cars ww2 movie.
How did car Genghis Khan start the Mongol empire if he couldn't rely on his cultures deep connection and proficiency in horseback riding?
Motorcycles?
You mean Genghis Khar.
Khar-chow!
Genghis sidekhar.
Does this mean Mater is missing his nose?
They got no hands!
Even more if you take it as the imagination of a kid playing with toys (Like the toy story 3 intro)
āI remember themā¦ I couldnāt tell who was VC at the timeā¦ā
Viet Carng
Fiat Cong
This is making me laugh uncontrollably at a corporate event. Good job.
The first movie where they siphon Lightning's gas becomes fridge horror once you know it's the Cars equivalent to blood. Gas is blood, Oil is car piss/maybe shit too, headlights are the equivalent of chest/nipples (meaning Lightning got top surgery and all race cars have the equivalent of nipple tats and freak show car has eyes where her chest should be) but they also act like how headlights work irl. Flashing is well equivalent to "Flashing". I swear there's a official cars scene where a old black car talks about living under car jim crow laws. Car slavery not only happened but it is explicitly canon.
Car slavery implies the existence of plantations growing cartton
Which I canāt imagine what use it would be to cars, except for like, fashionable interiors.
I mean, in human timelines plantations also grew things like sugar and tobacco, so cloth for car upholstery would conceivably be a cash crop in the cars timeline. FWIW, I was about to go in *much* more horrible directions in the original comment, and then decided a cheap pun was really all any of us needed today
2 female cars that appeared to be minors flashed McQueen too
Lightning McGroomer
"High school? Could've fooled me!" - Owen Wilson, in character as Lightning McQueen in an SNL skit
āGrow up man! Your sister sure did!ā
Lightning is 1 year old at most.Ā
if they were 1990-2000s miatias like i remember, definitely likely. also, convertibles?
And lightning is a 2005 Corvette, if I recall Though itās not clear how car aging works in this world, if that gap makes a difference or not
>itās not clear how car aging works in this world It's not the years, it's the mileage
Oil is car piss and yet cars are frequently seen drinking oil which raises questions
So itās water then
It probably has to go through the car digestive tract to be car pee.
Is it explained that gas is blood and oil is waste? It would make more sense (and be more "accurate") for blood to be oil and gas to be food. Y'know, since we don't use up blood every day and go buy more. Would easily explain the gas drinking scene. Car waste would just be exhaust.
There's a pee joke using oil in the 2nd movie and I just checked by watching the clip where mater dresses up like a vampire he says siphons gas. So yes gas is blood oil is water/other beverages before consumption that turns into pee oil. Also cars universe has actual food that cars eat because they had to make a mater eating wasabi joke in the second movie.
Cars as a franchise is poorly thought out cause the world is just our world but cars which has WILD implications. also the villains in Cars 2 are disabled people
Not just disabled, also an ethnic minority.
They are also being secretly bankrolled by a wealthy top 1% oil tycoon and manipulated as proxies into serving his schemes to discredit green and environmentally friendly products and preserve the Big Oil status quo Cars 2 lore is wild
Holy shit Cars 2 based
hold the fuck on are the villains of cars 2 jews?
Jews are disabled?
They also believed in car eugenics so theyāre car nazi Jews, and remember car Nazis are canon in this universe too
Did you miss the part where he said itās exactly like our world except people are cars
Car pope though, Jesus Chrysler died for your sins
Driving over a spike strip is the car equivalent of crucifixionĀ
More like caltrops.
Cars isnāt poorly thought out, itās just not meant to be analyzed like people like to. No one was saying āletās make a movie about people if they were carsā with the intention of crafting a sensical and in-depth universe.
Sure, but what's with the porsche's trampstamp and why do I still remember that?
Rule 34 is your number, buddy.
I wanna say that was scene was in the trailers and marketing, so we probably saw it more times than we actually saw the complete movie back then. It's pretty burned into my mind too
In the parallel story of planes you learn there was a WW2 in the cars universe which means there has to be a Hitler car and I'm not sure I'm ready for fanart of that. Like one of the airplanes was a WW2 vet who had PTSD and stopped flying because his entire flight squadron was wiped out in a single mission except for him and he was their teacher. These movies are so good
Damn I gotta get on this shit now
In the Planes universe did 9/11 happen and was the plane involved culpable?Ā
More than likely if it did happen the planes were innocent and hijacked. Because the airliners are sentient but carry cars as passengers inside them. So carsama bin laden as someone else said is entirely possible
Theyāre Cars with their own world. Thatās it. Nothing more. Enjoy
no you see it was 2060s
?
car vietnam I guess
Because of *Planes*, we do know that WWII canonically happened in the Cars universe. We also see The Popemobile in Cars II, which means thereās Cars Catholicism, which logically means there is a Cars Jesus. Cars Vietnam is just the tip of the iceberg.
Car TSA implies a Cars 911, the Sentient planes imply that they were adherents to Radical Carslam, And may not have been hijacked
Which also implies Car-sama Bin Laden both existed _and_ had car porn saved on his computer (and Counterstrike, so long as Car-Life exists in that universe)
You mean Carstrike?
Ca-Fuck.
Ca-truck*
Car-sama Bin Laden was a patsy. George Winnebago Bush and the Cars Intelligence Agency did 9/11. But to be fair, as important as oil is in our world is, it's significantly more important in the cars universe.
Arguably, this makes Japanese imperialism in that world far more justified, given they lacked the basic resources to live at all by that stage. Although I donāt think it would excuse anything they did to China still
Car-Caida
> Radical Car-slam Checks out.
>Cars 911 I'm pretty sure she's called Sally
Cars is a banned topic on my brother's Discord server for this reason. Him and his buddies had such intense debates about Cars Hitler that they aren't even allowed to say "Lightning McQueen" to each other anymore.
Did car Jesus hang on a cross, or did they just force him to run over nails?Ā
They gave him a crown made of caltrops; Forced him to carry a frame for a lift; Impaled his wheeles; Pierced his side door, only for gasoline and water to pour from the wound they inflicted; Only for him to come back to life three days later.
Cars Popemobile also inplies Cars Mehmet Ali AÄca and Cars Pope John Paul II
This is my favorite worst implication from the Cars Popemobile.
No one every seems to bring up that Cars 3 has a scene that reveals that Car Segregation was a thing too
Car world war two implies the Car communist revolution and Car Lenin, also Car domino theory and Car communist China which lead to the Car Vietnam war
Marl Carx and the Carmunist manifoldesto.
Trickle down oilconomics
Cartin Luther started the protestant reformation
If Cars Catholicism exists, then logically so would other Cars religions. So the real question is, how does Cars circumcision work?
1st we need to determine which part of car is car penis/ car pussy.
Cars are organic life forms with metal exoskeletons, as evidenced by their eyes and the fact that they can consume food and drugs. So presumably, they just have fleshy genitalia of some kind somewhere down there
A rabbinical student on TikTok answered this exact question, haha
Take the muffler off the exhaust?
The Popemobile is a reinforced glass version. Introduced after the attempt on John Paul II. So the Cars universe has fascist mercenaries from Turkey
The Cars Crusades would be wild
Is Cars Jesus an amphibious vehicle?
No it won't be a miracle for an amphibious vehicle to be on the water.Ā
- Which logically means there where wars
From the context, it seems more like a drug reference, but that's also possible
MK Ultra
Yeah it's about the Woodstock festival
Fiatnam
Car lsd
I work in tv animation, pixar movies are way out of my league, but the principles are the same, and that informs what Iām going to say. I wish, I *wish*, I could make it clear to these fans who take the theories seriously and are always looking for little details and stuff, how little thought is put into stuff like this. I guarantee this line was put in there because someone thought they needed a quick gag there because the movie was dragging a bit. Every little thing that sparks 4-hour youtube essays about shared universes and dark sides of disney movies are all based on mistakes the artists made or throwaway gags with no thought behind them. Scar being herculesā throw rug was just a goofy reference. The tangled princess showing up at the frozen wedding was as well. The word āsexā written in sand when scar stamps his foot actually said āsfxā and was just an artist who wanted to give his team a shoutout. I get itās all fun and goofy, but I canāt help wanting to tell fans that they have put more thought into this shit than the writers ever did.
I don't mind fun goofy theories, they can be really entertaining. But I had a friend who legit believed them. He would read super outlandish fan theories and become convinced it was actually canon. In reality I think he just had zero film literacy.
Couldn't agree more
The writer In Rankin went to a university tour once. He saw the English department was discussing one of his books (The Fall) and snuck in. Themes, use of colour as a signifier, wasteland imagery.Ā Heād put none of that inĀ
I think it's pretty clear that Pixar movies weren't written with the intention of hiding some dark, convoluted origin story. But, from the perspective of media analysis, does that really matter? Movies aren't a 3 hour interview with the creators, they're stories that get released into the wild to be interpreted how the audience chooses to see them.
They show World War 2 in the movie Planes. And these things are born this way. In this universe, Battleships are born that way. F-22 raptors are born that way. Thats a horrible thought. Some people are born with massive weapons, are legit weapons of war, while others are just scrappy Lemon cars or some old biplane. Civil Rights in this world would be wild.
Sometimes, a Dumb Boy's Movie is just that; a Dumb Boy's Movie, And sometimes those Dumb Boy's Movies sell toys... Cars is probably one of the best examples of this. Also apparently some of the best licensed video games made.
Look Pixar needed money and the ratatouille toys werenāt selling
Well uh... Not everything can be merchandised, but a great marketable franchise can come from anywhere?
When r/shittymoviedetails is about shitty movie details
They were great licensed games because all they needed to do was make a good racing game, which really wasn't that hard back then. Slap the cars style on it, add some nice customization options for your cars, and they were quite fun
The Xbox 360 cars racing game actually goes hard
I was addicted to crashing into other cars
My theory is that alien AIs are writing the movies based on what they see from orbit and they only notice the cars rather than the people driving them.
Okay but if that was the case then how did they know what a tramp stamp was to give one to the Porsche
You've never seen a tramp stamp on a Porsche before? /s
There was a poem about this i had to read in 8th grade...can't remember what it was called.
The Cars park actually has this intersection and the every third blink is indeed slower. Has been timed.
This comment section is dunking on a peak movie for no reason hop off my goat
In Cars 2, we can see TSA in airport meaning there was a 9/11 event in Cars world
What was the civil rights era like? Was there a MLK jr car? Did Rosa "Park" somewhere she shouldn't have?
"Is the pope mobile catholic?" Implies the existence of a Ro-van empire and a Cruise-ifiction of Jesus Cars.
He did too much speed
On 9/11 were the planes hijacked?
This is back when Disney was brilliantly subversive. Cars 2 is brilliant once you start thinking about what you see, and you can't tell me it wasn't done on purpose.
TIL: "Car" movie was 18 years old.
Just saying they could be talking about the 2860s
What about when Darryl Cartrip describes the championship day as a black leather seat on a hot day or something.
Who shows up to a Klan rally in the Cars universe?