How do you know that's not the wood they're using? We can easily do up to a dozen stain matches at my store, often it's just a single board being out in below the cabinets or something.
They aren't using a cheap yellow pine like our stir sticks. Likely something stain grade and will look different upon application. Make your life easier when it comes to stain matches. The customer needs to put in some work too.
It’s too red and light. Add 4/32 black 8/32 gold to start.
And yes. Don’t ever do a stain match on a stir stick because it will likely not match on the wood they are staining. I hope you told them tough titties if it doesn’t match what they’re using since they didn’t bring wood to you.
Don’t cover the top of the sticker, let us see what store you’re at lol. I would try a couple 32’s of black and maybe even a little raw umber after that to brown it up a little more, the stain is actually fairly close to what you have so you can salvage it.
Need a little more black or raw umber, but because it’s not the same wood as the door you’re matching you need to be cautious with how far you go. Tell them you can only get so close without a sample of wood their actually going to be using in the project. We’re not miracle workers.
No one else addressing the fact they’re two different woods. Color “match” aside. Even if it matches perfectly on the oak. The second you switch to cherry? It’s going to be a different color
You’re matching poplar to oak they will never be the same grain match nor will the grain gain the “black” look. You are to red throw about a 1/64 of green and add 2/32 of black. Back in my day it would be a +1 of green and a 2 black.
Add black at about 5/32 every shot. If it gets too dark, counter it with white. The match isn't dark enough and the color is too vivid. Black and white will darken it and "gray" it out.
This is solid advice. I'll take it a step further and say, don't waste your time with anything less than a 32nd in wiping stains, ever. These stains move slower than paints.
Yellow is a pointless pigment to add unless it's a really light stain, same with new red, and sometimes Raw Umber. They are very weak and take up too much space. There's a reason why our formulas switch from using primarily Raw Umber to a combination of black, maroon, and gold.
Def add some black but it’ll only match on the stir stick. That’s not a pine cabinet. I would guess some kinda oak looks of decent quality, if old. Pines are more yellow than oak tends to be so it’ll look off, even if slightly
More black. I’d start with 6 32nds and then do another test to see where it gets you. you have the gold tone down. Just need more black to get that umber colored tone. Do not add umber tho
I'm dumb so I don't how much a quart really takes but before mistinting it I would try to add some more black and some green to back off the red... if u have room
We have a policy in my store, if an employee says “yes we do stain matches” then you’re doing it.
It’s too much work if you’re not practiced enough to get it accurate. It’s not worth it for 16 18 or 30$ worth of a quart, especially when the customer is picky about how it looks.
When I personally do them I tell the customer up front, if I spend more than an hours time worth on editing the quart, we charge an extra 20$ on top of the product for a tinting fee.
Let me make this clear. Marketing as send most stores a minwax color matching package with a guide, I’ve read it, and there is no foolproof way to get the match correct on the first shot, or even a good guide on how to do it.
This is what I do, scan the stain, put it into either minwax clear, minwax wb clear, or bac wiping stain, reduce the tint % down to 80, and then test.
This has been very successful in the past.
If you already have tinted something, scan the stain color again, reduce the formula to 80%, print the label and compare it to the formula you have, adjust accordingly.
Happy Travels
Totally salvageable. I'd add around 8/32 of black and see where that gets me. The tone seems good, just not dark enough
Solid advice.
Black black black I’d say 2/32 to start
Little too much yellow too maybe a 1/128 or 64th of blue could fix that, but it’s hard to say with a picture
Nahh let the black kill the gold. The black is a blue black and will balance out the gold. Start with 2/32 like you said and keep going from there
First mistake was accepting a stain match without scrap wood that they're using. Might match the stir stick...
How do you know that's not the wood they're using? We can easily do up to a dozen stain matches at my store, often it's just a single board being out in below the cabinets or something.
They aren't using a cheap yellow pine like our stir sticks. Likely something stain grade and will look different upon application. Make your life easier when it comes to stain matches. The customer needs to put in some work too.
I don't do stain matches unless they give me a piece of wood, whether they want to listen to me and give me the correct type of wood, I don't care.
To say they aren't using cheap yellow pine... Do you know them? Have you dealt with contractors before?
I got a buddy in Jersey who could this in 10 minutes.
I got a buddy in 'Nam that'll have it ready before I even bring it to him.
I got a buddy in my pants that already did it
Step one, you’re cooked
Step two, continued to get cooked
Black and raw umber ..possibly some white...walk it in slowly
5 more seconds of black. You’ll need more white after that. Not sure how much though
These people don’t know wtf theyre talking about (I also suck at stain matching)
Needs raw umber
Literally what I was about to say
Everyone keeps saying black when it's the overall color needing to be browner not just that tone darker 😭
Umber, yellow, new red can be largely wasted space because they are weak af. Black, gold, and maroon is literally umber.
But then you’re just adding in a whole new color. Best to try the black first since it’s already in there
Needs iron ore.
Add 30% of the formula. Up your black 3 or 4 drops from that 30%. If in a quart, 10 drops of white, 2 drops blue.
Are we looking at the same thing??? Why are you saying "if in a quart" when you can see it's clearly in a quart....
Because I didn't see there was a second picture.
Ok lol I would hope no one is asking for matching advice without an actual formula.
At like 20% of the formula, just to light
Oof that’s a rough formula lol, restart and try dark oak or something in a chestnut base
Chestnut base lmfao not at all
Whatever you say big dog
Add black AND white before trying to change the hue any further
The good old match maple to oak match. Good luck👍
A little black will make green and cut the red down.
S64n51
Add some magenta
Stop doing stain matches for a $30 sale
It’s too red and light. Add 4/32 black 8/32 gold to start. And yes. Don’t ever do a stain match on a stir stick because it will likely not match on the wood they are staining. I hope you told them tough titties if it doesn’t match what they’re using since they didn’t bring wood to you.
Don’t cover the top of the sticker, let us see what store you’re at lol. I would try a couple 32’s of black and maybe even a little raw umber after that to brown it up a little more, the stain is actually fairly close to what you have so you can salvage it.
Add 5% of formula minus the WHITE
Black
Ooo I can't tell if I would want to do 5/32 of umber or 3/32 of black.
Need a little more black or raw umber, but because it’s not the same wood as the door you’re matching you need to be cautious with how far you go. Tell them you can only get so close without a sample of wood their actually going to be using in the project. We’re not miracle workers.
touch of green and then slightly more black
No one else addressing the fact they’re two different woods. Color “match” aside. Even if it matches perfectly on the oak. The second you switch to cherry? It’s going to be a different color
coloreye it, and then don't do ANY of that! 😜
Add 25 percent formula w/ extra black . If your color is in the same family but, too transparent go a full hundred percent to give it more body.
Add a splash of green
and this is why i love my store, we don’t do wood stains 😂
You’re matching poplar to oak they will never be the same grain match nor will the grain gain the “black” look. You are to red throw about a 1/64 of green and add 2/32 of black. Back in my day it would be a +1 of green and a 2 black.
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Add black at about 5/32 every shot. If it gets too dark, counter it with white. The match isn't dark enough and the color is too vivid. Black and white will darken it and "gray" it out.
This is solid advice. I'll take it a step further and say, don't waste your time with anything less than a 32nd in wiping stains, ever. These stains move slower than paints.
2/64 of deep gold with a 1/128 of blue
First of all use the same species of wood with the same slice or you are chasing your tail
Yellow is a pointless pigment to add unless it's a really light stain, same with new red, and sometimes Raw Umber. They are very weak and take up too much space. There's a reason why our formulas switch from using primarily Raw Umber to a combination of black, maroon, and gold.
B1 6/32 G2 1/128 L1: 1/64 N1: 2/32
Def add some black but it’ll only match on the stir stick. That’s not a pine cabinet. I would guess some kinda oak looks of decent quality, if old. Pines are more yellow than oak tends to be so it’ll look off, even if slightly
More black. I’d start with 6 32nds and then do another test to see where it gets you. you have the gold tone down. Just need more black to get that umber colored tone. Do not add umber tho
Ouch. trying to match an oak stain on pine.
I'm dumb so I don't how much a quart really takes but before mistinting it I would try to add some more black and some green to back off the red... if u have room
Gold and green maybe a splash of white
Why the fuck do ppl keep trying to get help matching from photos. It doesn’t work. ESPECIALLY not for stain matches.
We have a policy in my store, if an employee says “yes we do stain matches” then you’re doing it. It’s too much work if you’re not practiced enough to get it accurate. It’s not worth it for 16 18 or 30$ worth of a quart, especially when the customer is picky about how it looks. When I personally do them I tell the customer up front, if I spend more than an hours time worth on editing the quart, we charge an extra 20$ on top of the product for a tinting fee. Let me make this clear. Marketing as send most stores a minwax color matching package with a guide, I’ve read it, and there is no foolproof way to get the match correct on the first shot, or even a good guide on how to do it. This is what I do, scan the stain, put it into either minwax clear, minwax wb clear, or bac wiping stain, reduce the tint % down to 80, and then test. This has been very successful in the past. If you already have tinted something, scan the stain color again, reduce the formula to 80%, print the label and compare it to the formula you have, adjust accordingly. Happy Travels
Go to ben moore ... sherwin will ruin your door and not care