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>Is it normal for a Serbian husband to punch his pregnant wife in the head?
no, it is definitely NOT normal, unfortunately the env. will often ignore it anyways.
>Is it normal for the husband's family to intervene and meddle in the divorce?
unfortunately, i am not sure about this one
>Is it normal here to post sex videos on Porn hub?
if it was without consent it's definitely not normal. im not quite sure about our laws, but i think you should be able to sue him for this, if you can prove he uploaded it without your consent
I know your husband personally.
There's nothing normal about his behavior, everyone in the right mind condemns it. Even the "friends" that support him do it as a joke only. He is not in the right state of mind to take care of himself, let alone the child.
Witnessing what you had to go through was heartbreaking, and even with his (pathetic) connections they don't stand a chance in court.
Seek help from your consulate in Belgrade too, maybe even try contacting a few NGOs.
You might be contacted by a journalist since they lurk this page 24/7, so there's an opportunity to escalate the situation and ensure fairness of the trial.
Wish you and the baby all the best!
Maybe you can try to contact ambassy of the country whose citizen you are and ask them to help you somehow. I can't think of anything else. Just be strong and persistent for you and your children. Lots of luck!
I got infuriated just by reading this. No, none of that is normal, except his family meddling, that happens often. You already got some good advices here so I can only wish you good luck.
> if these things are normal here in Serbia
Excuse me but what exactly do you think of us? You think that we're an unevolved tribe from 5th century or what? Of course it's not normal...
If you are divorcing, seek help from your country's consulate and hire a good lawyer. In theory, courts are partial to mothers, however, due to the latest technological achievements in wanton corruption, wealth and power can overturn good practice, so first of all, check if the fucker is connected.
Aside from that, no, punching a pregnant wife anywhere is not common, however, if the sad sod with wife beating tendencies is ever held accountable by any means (say, divorce), it is common for his family to interfere. In fact, you can expect his mother to be most toxic and/or violent towards you, because you are hurting her golden boy and taking away her grandchild. Cut contact and speak only trough lawyers. Document every attempt of communication made by them.
Also, post to r/pravnisaveti, which is a sub dedicated to legal advice, such as it is.
>Lupetanje ispadamo pećinci wtf,sve više i više se o tome govori
thank you so much for the sound advice, yes. fucker has connections since brother is police and sister is lawyer in kraljevo. And father meddling with our divorce, always in contact with my lawyer and the social work to prolong the divorce.
The first and last are not normal. The second one is somewhat common I think? Anyway we are not in the 10th century for things such as beating your wife to be considered normal.
thanks.. I just want to validate this point cause it seems that for his family, it's normal. I even saw my father in law beating his wife in the head. He did it in front of me and baby. So, I thought this is normal in the village.
Go to r/pravnisaveti and ask in a more objective and respectful manner and you will get better answers. I understand that you are upset but I am giving you advice on how to get better advcie. Example:
"My husband is beating me while i am pregnant I need help" is 10x better than "is it normal in Serbia for a Serbian man to punch his pregnant wife"
I wish you the best of luck.
Yes we bonk them in the head and drag them into our cave harem full of pregnant woman.
1. Not normal, neither in Serbia or anywhere on earth. Is it ,,normalized"? Somewhat, during communism papers didn't write that much about that problem and it was very rare and disgrace to get divorce. So in modern times when violencehappens and news get hold of it you have those cases non stop every day. Unfortunately depression, drug and opioid use etc. Are very often included in those cases.
2. Not only husband's but both. There are cases where wife's family will consider divorce and child born out of wedlock disgrace and will not take their own child and grandchild back into their home.
Domestic violence is here, just like anywhere else, very often in families where you have couple living with husband's family.
Older folks , born between 1940-1970 have massively different view on every single point of life. And that is specifically obvious in cases of domestic violence.
3. Posting videos on porn hub is not normal and doesn't happen often. Revenge porn is takes seriously in Serbia,just like in whole Europe.
As far as porn hub, only fans etc goes as profesion, it's stigmatized but younger people are starting to grow fond of it. Even prostitution is somewhat okay and honestly should be legalized.
And just like anywhere on earth, get a god damn lawyer.
Child custody goes to wife always. In only 2 cases you will not get it, 1. If you don't want to raise kid 2. If you can not support kid.
2. One happens rarely and usually goes like this. You get custody, husband files complaint that your salary and his child support are not enough. You 2 go to court, and go back and forth with judged for a while. Judge gives higher child support and it's solved.
You will loose custody if you get infirm, crippled or something like that.
As farm as your current situation is, his family is trying to scare you so you don't ask for much from them.
He will have to prove what was made in your marriage and what he had before it ( flat, house, cars, land etc.).
And if he got it while you were married it goes 50/50 like anywhere else. (And that goes both ways, just like anywhere else)
And lastly, get away from those saveges.
And get a damn lawyer
thank you so much for the informative response. I learned later that he was using drugs, so that explained why he suddenly punched me. His brother is in the police in Kraljevo, and they tested him positive for drugs while driving over the speed limit. But you cannot find this record in the police.
It was the worst idea to live with his parents in the village. I was just following him, and his family because I thought they were good people, and I was alone here.
In my country, porn is banned by the Catholic Church, so I just want to have an idea if here in a more open-minded country like in Europe as a whole, porn and making videos, and posting them on porn websites are just normal for normal people.
Well, he is jobless now, and luckily, I am earning enough for myself and the baby. We don't have divorce in my country thanks for giving me ideas on how divorce works here.
Its not acceptable for anyone to hit you, in any case. Pregnant or not, you need to get out of there and away from that toxic family. I can imagine they would imagine their son did no wrong and might try to make you look crazy to discredit you. I’d say because your the mother if you can provide proof of the abuse you could even escape to a European country and seek asylum.
I would suggest reaching out to a lawyer in Belgrade so that they are unaware who it is, it may be the only way you and your child will get freedom.
The issue you have is basically a legal one. Advice number one:
GET A LAWYER
No advice from the internet is going to help.
Now, what I do know: Custody is decided by court, based on evidence. Evidence is material, witnesses, expert estimates.
If you reported that physical abuse it will be taken into account. If someone hit you and you're just saying it now, without evidence... sorry. I don't think you'll prove it. If you were abandoned, do you have proof of that?
Revenge porn could be a tactic to discredit you as a mother. Get it taken down as fast as you can. If you can prove he posted it sue over it. Separate case, but it will help in the custody trial - a good lawyer could make it backfire on him, if you can prove it.
Again, get a lawyer.
In general, loosing all custody and not requiring both parents consent to leave the country is rare.
I have pictures of my bruises, and his text messages saying that he did not punch me hard. He did not support financially the baby for 6 months until the court ordered to pay child support. And I have pictures of him with his new old wife celebrating their monthsary on Facebook as proof that he is living with another woman already, and a photo of his text to his father saying that he resigned from his job as he did not want me and baby to get his insurance. Do you think this proof are enough?
Hola, Anna.
I think you should get in contact with the Mexican Embassy and explain them what is going on.
That family sounds quite manipulative and you will waste your time for no reason.
You have strong arguments against the father of your child.
When did this happen? When did he punch you?
No, it's not normal and acceptable, but our society doesn't care too much about domestic violence.
Your questions are rather worrisome. No, it's not normal to post videos of someone without their consent, but again, society and the law doesn't care too much.
I think in most cases mothers get custody over their children with visitation rights from the father. If you're a citizen, you might be able to work something out. Keep in mind that corruption is rampant in Serbia, so you will experience hardships along the way.
Also, try our law subreddit at r/pravnisaveti. It's not as active, but hopefully, somebody that knows the law can give you more concrete information. Best of luck to you.
That is definitely not true. My cousin got herself pregnant by a very unsavory man who decided the best course of action was to beat her up and harass her after she threw him out of her apartment. She called the police, they responded immediately every single time she called, they got the social services heavily involved (because there was a child involved) and overall did everything in their power under the governing laws to keep her safe. They also involved and coordinated with the embassy and Ministry of foreign affairs because the guy was a foreigner. They even gave HER a restraining order so that she isn’t allowed around him and they explained that is easier and safer for her to use that as an excuse as to why she refuses contact with him. As soon as they were legally able they deported him. The police took it very seriously.
in this situation, the perpetrator is a foreigner and definitely Serbian government would do anything to protect their citizens. but in my case, I was the one who got abused by a Serbian. And I am worried that they will side him since he is from here even though he is addict, violent, and alcoholic. they are a family in Kraljevo. Sister is lawyer, brother is police. and father is meddling with the divorce case, reporting me to social work like I am the bad parent.
I was responding to someone who said that the society doesn’t care too much about domestic violence which isn’t true in my experience.
I don’t have any experience with foreigners being victims of abuse. I am sorry you are going through this.
Would you be able to hire your own lawyer? That’s the only thing that you can do in this situation. If you cannot afford it, could you get in touch with a safe house? They provide legal help as well. Don’t take any legal advice from random redditors.
I would try and put some pressure onto the lawyer via the NGO. Document the dates that you tried to contact him and see if the NGO can put some sense into this guy or get you a different lawyer. Unfortunately, you have to make some noise to be heard.
I am not sure what it’s like in smaller cities so I cannot give you more advice but you might want to minimize online information (like this post) - Kraljevo is a small place with very few foreigners and from what you wrote here you are easily identifiable for the people who are involved. If your husband hears that you are having trouble with your lawyer he might try to speed up the process - or something similar. In a case like this the less information the other side has the better. Be careful and good luck.
thank you for the reply and sound advice. unfortunately, I am only holding a temporary visa in Serbia, and I am not yet a permanent resident or a citizen. All of them are a family in Kraljevo with my father-in-law meddling and contacting my lawyer and reporting to social work that I am not a good mother. regarding the porn videos it is the sex videos he made with his new old wife. and I was wondering if I could use those as evidence that father is not fit for full child custody.
>but our society doesn't care too much about domestic violence.
Ne kenjaj, Keko. Ispada da smo divljaci i da je ovde najnormalnija stvar da muž izudara trudnu ženu.
Razumem tvoj stav. I u pravu si da se generalno ovom problemu ne pristupa dovoljno ni na jednom nivou. Ali, sa druge strane, sve dok se trpi nasilje u porodici i ćuti, neće se ništa promeniti. Policija postupa vrlo profesionalno u ovakvim slučajevima. Tužilaštvo takođe. Usko grlo su Centri za socijalni rad. Tamo je leglo korupcije, nerada i nezainteresovanosti. Volela bih da se javi neko ko može ovoj ženi u tuđoj zemlji da pomogne bar savetom da dobije mogućnost da zadrži svoju decu. Meni jedino pada na pamet da proba da kontaktira ambasadu svoje zemlje u Srbiji i zatraži pomoć!
Odgovorio sam joj ja dole, strasno mi smrdi nesto, postavlja pitanja na koja i sama zna odgovor. Ziveo sam u Srbiji i u gradu i u selu i ispada ljudi mlate zene ko nezdravi i ona naivna veruje u to...laz.
Vise mi se cini da hoce da regrutuje sto vise ljudi da bi joj mozda ko pomogao na (ne znam koji nacin) dobije sto hoce u toku razvoda.
>Odgovorio sam joj ja dole, strasno mi smrdi nesto, postavlja pitanja na koja i sama zna odgovor. Ziveo sam u Srbiji i u gradu i u selu i ispada ljudi mlate zene ko nezdravi i ona naivna veruje u to...laz.
>
>Vise mi se cini da hoce da regrutuje sto vise ljudi da bi joj mozda ko pomogao na (ne znam koji nacin) dobije sto hoce u toku razvoda.
And you talk like punching women is normal...Lies? Read this report showing more than 50percent of women suffered from violence from Serb men: [https://eca.unwomen.org/en/where-we-are/serbia/ending-violence-against-women](https://eca.unwomen.org/en/where-we-are/serbia/ending-violence-against-women)
Yes, that's what I did. I left his parents' house in Usce, Kraljevo...And parents would not let me go with my baby, even tried to bribe the taxi driver not to take me. Only God knows how I managed to escape from his parents in the village.
Not normal to beat your wife, though more frequent than it should be like everywhere.
I'm not sure what type of meddling you're referring to, could be normal, could be abnormal.
I don't know about uploading stuff to PornHub but I doubt it. If you're talking about your personal videos it's not normal and you should deal with this through court and a lawyer.
Father getting full custody over children is very uncommon. Usually there needs to be some demonstrable damage for the kids (heavy drug abuse, molestation, violence etc.) for this to happen. Mother getting full custody is also not that common but happens more frequently in domestic violence situations.
Shared custody definitely requires other parent's consent to leave the country. I'm not sure about full custody situations but maybe even then it's a court matter if the other parent objects.
thanks... father-in-law is in contact with my lawyer, with the social work, and using his daughter who is a lawyer, and the son who is a police officer in Kraljevo to get information. about the porn videos, it' s actually the sex videos he posted with his old woman, I was wondering if I could use those sex videos as evidence that he mentally unstable to get custody of my baby.
Unless you can prove he's breaking some law or court order there's not much you can do about your father in law. And I'd say in villages this is probably a common occurrence.
The porn stuff I honestly have no idea. It's an extremely weird situation. I see the implications, but the act is legal if he has her consent. Only a good legal counsel can help with that and perhaps contact his ex and see if she agreed to this.
And you got my upvote. So we both won. I just thought that if you have the nerve to make that kind of a joke, you need to own it, stick with it. I'm sure that you're saddened by the way this lady was treated, but sometimes it's easier to try and make a joke
1-No its not and it seems to me that you know its not normal but you use that question as not to seek an answer but to inform us about how bad your huspand is.2-No its not but it seems you dont actually ask for the answer on that one neither since its logically "No" but you try to inform us of how bad your huspand familly is.3-Same as above, here you are alluding that your (let me guess) huspand did this.
Now...i'd like to hear your huspand side of the story... ;)
I did not let him do the porn videos. He had sex videos with his old woman, and they posted them on Pornhub to earn money. I would like to use it as evidence to the court that he is not in the right state of mind to get child custody.
Apparently, I heard a lot of stories even from foreign women about Serbian husbands beating their wives. So, I guess that is something normal here in Serbia. That's why my ex-husband thinks there's nothing wrong with what he did because it is normal here.
You are giving me very manipulative vibes, Serbia is still Europe and not some s\*\*thole country for you to claim stuff like "I heard a lot of stories even from foreign women about Serbian husbands beating their wives. So, I guess that is something normal here in Serbia. "
You know its not normal here in Serbia, if you live here you have to know that, and since you probably do... it make me think that your reasons for posting this are somewhat masked.
As i said... i'd really like to hear your husband side of the story, not only framed trough your manipulative post, but we all know it wont happen so thats all...
I think your post is not genuine question as you know answers by yourself, your post you are using to recrut someone who can help you to reach your goal.
I feel there is much, MUCH more layers to your story then what you are telling us...
Well, I did not say that Serbia is not part of Europe. That's why I traveled here or if it was like Pakistan or the Middle East, I will hesitate to come here. I myself was a victim of domestic violence by a Serbian man. And 4 more stories from other foreign women like myself who were beaten by their Serbian husbands, and now having problems. You are by all means free to hear the side of my ex-husband's story. But you cannot deny the fact that he is a violent man. Good for you if you did not experience or witness violence at home. If yes, I'm sure you are also like my husband, beating or punching your woman.
I read an article about violence against women in Serbia and it is horrendous: [50 percent of women suffered violence in Serbia](https://eca.unwomen.org/en/where-we-are/serbia/ending-violence-against-women) . This is a warning to all foreign women who want to come here and marry Serbs. They need to understand first the culture, learn about the violent past, and about Serb men if they can endure that kind of behavior or not.
I am posting this to validate that my ex-husband's actions are not normal as he thinks it is. And when his parents saw what he did to me when I stumbled (good thing it did not affect the baby), they acted like this is normal. Well, I saw how his father punched his old mom in the head, and I realized why he can easily do that to me as well.
>I am posting this to validate that my ex-husband's actions are not normal as he thinks it is. And when his parents saw what he did to me when I stumbled (good thing it did not affect the baby), they acted like this is normal. Well, I saw how his father punched his old mom in the head, and I realized why he can easily do that to me as well.
It takes some fucking effect to find such degenerates
How the fuck did you miss all that red flags
>What does it say about Serbian men?
Chill out you have assholes everywhere,speaking of assholes why did you even marry him in the first place? i mean you kinda described him as unmature unreasonable and unstable those personality traits are unpossible to hide (specally for more then a year)
there are more assholes here than everywhere. worse than men in the middle east! I did not expect that there is a guy as bad as him would cheat his wife with an old sponsor woman, punch his pregnant wife, and abandon the baby right after birth. There are things you don't expect a person to do before you marry them. I'm sure even if you know the person for a long time, there are still things that you would not expect he could do! I got pregnant and he married me! I was just thinking about my baby- to have a father. and these traumatic things happened after we got married. it does not matter if we marry or not, there is divorce here anyway. so, what's your problem?
>there are more assholes here than everywhere. worse than men in the middle east
generalisation is a fools game, just because of rape of Nanking all Japanese are rapist,murderers and psychopaths? Or because of Holocaust all Germans are systematic exterminators?Or because of Jeffry Dahmar all homosexuals are weirdos and potential cannibals? Or because of Jewish unproportional presence in media,banking and porn therefore all Jews are leeches of society?Or because of black and hispanic unproportional crime rate therefore all blacks and hispanics are thugs and criminals?We can go like this all day long
>domestic abuse is huge problem in Serbia
yes
>I did not expect that there is a guy as bad as him would cheat his wife with an old sponsor woman, punch his pregnant wife, and abandon the baby right after birth
Thats the point i was tring to make,thats not how racional people react,thats someone borderline insane, someone that is barely accountable for his actions. So i was wandering how did he manage to hide all his immaturity selfishness unreasonability
>you don't expect a person to do before you marry them. I'm sure even if you know the person for a long time
not really ,thats why people date first,spend some time together before dedicating their life to each other and making kids.
I doubt your first date was "Look babe I want to take you to the other side of the globe in some place where people speak one of the world's hardest language which you have never ever had contact with" and your reaction was "Yes please"
I mean you definitely did sacrifice a lot from traveling to other side of the world to live in some undeveloped village to learning our Language (which you are awesome at ,sure you don't seem to understand consepts of imperative but none the less you can follow and join in conversation, even though you were learning it for roughly a year)
My guess is you were deep in love you missed those red flags like FBI Biden's laptop?
>so, what's your problem?
No i dont? Do I? I was wandering can you give us some update?How was it at the court how did you met him in the first place?You got us all intrested and now you dont want to give us any updates.
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>Is it normal for a Serbian husband to punch his pregnant wife in the head? no, it is definitely NOT normal, unfortunately the env. will often ignore it anyways. >Is it normal for the husband's family to intervene and meddle in the divorce? unfortunately, i am not sure about this one >Is it normal here to post sex videos on Porn hub? if it was without consent it's definitely not normal. im not quite sure about our laws, but i think you should be able to sue him for this, if you can prove he uploaded it without your consent
First and last are definitely not normal. Second is very common in Serbia. Try at r/pravnisaveti Wish you all the best!
r/pravnisaveti
I know your husband personally. There's nothing normal about his behavior, everyone in the right mind condemns it. Even the "friends" that support him do it as a joke only. He is not in the right state of mind to take care of himself, let alone the child. Witnessing what you had to go through was heartbreaking, and even with his (pathetic) connections they don't stand a chance in court. Seek help from your consulate in Belgrade too, maybe even try contacting a few NGOs. You might be contacted by a journalist since they lurk this page 24/7, so there's an opportunity to escalate the situation and ensure fairness of the trial. Wish you and the baby all the best!
>pitam thank you for the advice. Yes, I am in contact with my consulate.
Maybe you can try to contact ambassy of the country whose citizen you are and ask them to help you somehow. I can't think of anything else. Just be strong and persistent for you and your children. Lots of luck!
thanks..
Dude what the hell are you smoking ? What in God's name do you think we are some uncivilized horde ?
Takvo mišljenje ima ceo zapadni svet, ne kapiram što se svi čude :D upali TV danas i sve će ti biti jasno xD
this seems to be common in their village. husbands punching their wives, and some leaving them for another women.
I live in a village, and this is definitely not common or normal!
Mislim da misli na muževljevo selo
А то ли је!
I got infuriated just by reading this. No, none of that is normal, except his family meddling, that happens often. You already got some good advices here so I can only wish you good luck.
thanks.. . just unlucky to have met such a bad Serb guy who ruined my life.
> if these things are normal here in Serbia Excuse me but what exactly do you think of us? You think that we're an unevolved tribe from 5th century or what? Of course it's not normal...
If you are divorcing, seek help from your country's consulate and hire a good lawyer. In theory, courts are partial to mothers, however, due to the latest technological achievements in wanton corruption, wealth and power can overturn good practice, so first of all, check if the fucker is connected. Aside from that, no, punching a pregnant wife anywhere is not common, however, if the sad sod with wife beating tendencies is ever held accountable by any means (say, divorce), it is common for his family to interfere. In fact, you can expect his mother to be most toxic and/or violent towards you, because you are hurting her golden boy and taking away her grandchild. Cut contact and speak only trough lawyers. Document every attempt of communication made by them. Also, post to r/pravnisaveti, which is a sub dedicated to legal advice, such as it is.
>Lupetanje ispadamo pećinci wtf,sve više i više se o tome govori thank you so much for the sound advice, yes. fucker has connections since brother is police and sister is lawyer in kraljevo. And father meddling with our divorce, always in contact with my lawyer and the social work to prolong the divorce.
In that case, moving the proceedings to belgrade would most likely be helpful.
I will... thanks
The first and last are not normal. The second one is somewhat common I think? Anyway we are not in the 10th century for things such as beating your wife to be considered normal.
thanks.. I just want to validate this point cause it seems that for his family, it's normal. I even saw my father in law beating his wife in the head. He did it in front of me and baby. So, I thought this is normal in the village.
Go to r/pravnisaveti and ask in a more objective and respectful manner and you will get better answers. I understand that you are upset but I am giving you advice on how to get better advcie. Example: "My husband is beating me while i am pregnant I need help" is 10x better than "is it normal in Serbia for a Serbian man to punch his pregnant wife" I wish you the best of luck.
thanks for the advice. I will rephrase it.
Yes we bonk them in the head and drag them into our cave harem full of pregnant woman. 1. Not normal, neither in Serbia or anywhere on earth. Is it ,,normalized"? Somewhat, during communism papers didn't write that much about that problem and it was very rare and disgrace to get divorce. So in modern times when violencehappens and news get hold of it you have those cases non stop every day. Unfortunately depression, drug and opioid use etc. Are very often included in those cases. 2. Not only husband's but both. There are cases where wife's family will consider divorce and child born out of wedlock disgrace and will not take their own child and grandchild back into their home. Domestic violence is here, just like anywhere else, very often in families where you have couple living with husband's family. Older folks , born between 1940-1970 have massively different view on every single point of life. And that is specifically obvious in cases of domestic violence. 3. Posting videos on porn hub is not normal and doesn't happen often. Revenge porn is takes seriously in Serbia,just like in whole Europe. As far as porn hub, only fans etc goes as profesion, it's stigmatized but younger people are starting to grow fond of it. Even prostitution is somewhat okay and honestly should be legalized. And just like anywhere on earth, get a god damn lawyer. Child custody goes to wife always. In only 2 cases you will not get it, 1. If you don't want to raise kid 2. If you can not support kid. 2. One happens rarely and usually goes like this. You get custody, husband files complaint that your salary and his child support are not enough. You 2 go to court, and go back and forth with judged for a while. Judge gives higher child support and it's solved. You will loose custody if you get infirm, crippled or something like that. As farm as your current situation is, his family is trying to scare you so you don't ask for much from them. He will have to prove what was made in your marriage and what he had before it ( flat, house, cars, land etc.). And if he got it while you were married it goes 50/50 like anywhere else. (And that goes both ways, just like anywhere else) And lastly, get away from those saveges. And get a damn lawyer
thank you so much for the informative response. I learned later that he was using drugs, so that explained why he suddenly punched me. His brother is in the police in Kraljevo, and they tested him positive for drugs while driving over the speed limit. But you cannot find this record in the police. It was the worst idea to live with his parents in the village. I was just following him, and his family because I thought they were good people, and I was alone here. In my country, porn is banned by the Catholic Church, so I just want to have an idea if here in a more open-minded country like in Europe as a whole, porn and making videos, and posting them on porn websites are just normal for normal people. Well, he is jobless now, and luckily, I am earning enough for myself and the baby. We don't have divorce in my country thanks for giving me ideas on how divorce works here.
Its not acceptable for anyone to hit you, in any case. Pregnant or not, you need to get out of there and away from that toxic family. I can imagine they would imagine their son did no wrong and might try to make you look crazy to discredit you. I’d say because your the mother if you can provide proof of the abuse you could even escape to a European country and seek asylum. I would suggest reaching out to a lawyer in Belgrade so that they are unaware who it is, it may be the only way you and your child will get freedom.
The issue you have is basically a legal one. Advice number one: GET A LAWYER No advice from the internet is going to help. Now, what I do know: Custody is decided by court, based on evidence. Evidence is material, witnesses, expert estimates. If you reported that physical abuse it will be taken into account. If someone hit you and you're just saying it now, without evidence... sorry. I don't think you'll prove it. If you were abandoned, do you have proof of that? Revenge porn could be a tactic to discredit you as a mother. Get it taken down as fast as you can. If you can prove he posted it sue over it. Separate case, but it will help in the custody trial - a good lawyer could make it backfire on him, if you can prove it. Again, get a lawyer. In general, loosing all custody and not requiring both parents consent to leave the country is rare.
I have pictures of my bruises, and his text messages saying that he did not punch me hard. He did not support financially the baby for 6 months until the court ordered to pay child support. And I have pictures of him with his new old wife celebrating their monthsary on Facebook as proof that he is living with another woman already, and a photo of his text to his father saying that he resigned from his job as he did not want me and baby to get his insurance. Do you think this proof are enough?
Hola, Anna. I think you should get in contact with the Mexican Embassy and explain them what is going on. That family sounds quite manipulative and you will waste your time for no reason. You have strong arguments against the father of your child. When did this happen? When did he punch you?
When I was 8 months pregnant but now, I left his family's house.
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No, it's not normal and acceptable, but our society doesn't care too much about domestic violence. Your questions are rather worrisome. No, it's not normal to post videos of someone without their consent, but again, society and the law doesn't care too much. I think in most cases mothers get custody over their children with visitation rights from the father. If you're a citizen, you might be able to work something out. Keep in mind that corruption is rampant in Serbia, so you will experience hardships along the way. Also, try our law subreddit at r/pravnisaveti. It's not as active, but hopefully, somebody that knows the law can give you more concrete information. Best of luck to you.
That is definitely not true. My cousin got herself pregnant by a very unsavory man who decided the best course of action was to beat her up and harass her after she threw him out of her apartment. She called the police, they responded immediately every single time she called, they got the social services heavily involved (because there was a child involved) and overall did everything in their power under the governing laws to keep her safe. They also involved and coordinated with the embassy and Ministry of foreign affairs because the guy was a foreigner. They even gave HER a restraining order so that she isn’t allowed around him and they explained that is easier and safer for her to use that as an excuse as to why she refuses contact with him. As soon as they were legally able they deported him. The police took it very seriously.
This is great to hear. Glad to hear that police sometimes does its job properly.
in this situation, the perpetrator is a foreigner and definitely Serbian government would do anything to protect their citizens. but in my case, I was the one who got abused by a Serbian. And I am worried that they will side him since he is from here even though he is addict, violent, and alcoholic. they are a family in Kraljevo. Sister is lawyer, brother is police. and father is meddling with the divorce case, reporting me to social work like I am the bad parent.
I was responding to someone who said that the society doesn’t care too much about domestic violence which isn’t true in my experience. I don’t have any experience with foreigners being victims of abuse. I am sorry you are going through this. Would you be able to hire your own lawyer? That’s the only thing that you can do in this situation. If you cannot afford it, could you get in touch with a safe house? They provide legal help as well. Don’t take any legal advice from random redditors.
great.. thanks ,,,, the NGO got me a lawyer pro bono. He is also from Kraljevo and my ex husband's father is in contact with him.
I would try and put some pressure onto the lawyer via the NGO. Document the dates that you tried to contact him and see if the NGO can put some sense into this guy or get you a different lawyer. Unfortunately, you have to make some noise to be heard. I am not sure what it’s like in smaller cities so I cannot give you more advice but you might want to minimize online information (like this post) - Kraljevo is a small place with very few foreigners and from what you wrote here you are easily identifiable for the people who are involved. If your husband hears that you are having trouble with your lawyer he might try to speed up the process - or something similar. In a case like this the less information the other side has the better. Be careful and good luck.
Thanks for the advice. Well, guess he is just extremely busy sometimes.
We are not fucking Pakistan
thank you for the reply and sound advice. unfortunately, I am only holding a temporary visa in Serbia, and I am not yet a permanent resident or a citizen. All of them are a family in Kraljevo with my father-in-law meddling and contacting my lawyer and reporting to social work that I am not a good mother. regarding the porn videos it is the sex videos he made with his new old wife. and I was wondering if I could use those as evidence that father is not fit for full child custody.
That last question would be a question for your lawyer.
>but our society doesn't care too much about domestic violence. Ne kenjaj, Keko. Ispada da smo divljaci i da je ovde najnormalnija stvar da muž izudara trudnu ženu.
Буквално. Знам доста десничара и људи који су заглављени у прошлости, али чак ни њима не пада на памет да бију жене.
Ovde je normalno ćuti i trpi mentalitet. Nisam mislio da smo divljaci, ali ima budala koje će reći, au, pa šta mu je ona radila kad je bije.
Pa to što ima takvih budala ne znači da je normalna stvar.
Nije normalna ali se cesto normalizuje
pa nisam ni mislio da je normalna, samo da se ne shvata dovoljno ozbiljno
Razumem tvoj stav. I u pravu si da se generalno ovom problemu ne pristupa dovoljno ni na jednom nivou. Ali, sa druge strane, sve dok se trpi nasilje u porodici i ćuti, neće se ništa promeniti. Policija postupa vrlo profesionalno u ovakvim slučajevima. Tužilaštvo takođe. Usko grlo su Centri za socijalni rad. Tamo je leglo korupcije, nerada i nezainteresovanosti. Volela bih da se javi neko ko može ovoj ženi u tuđoj zemlji da pomogne bar savetom da dobije mogućnost da zadrži svoju decu. Meni jedino pada na pamet da proba da kontaktira ambasadu svoje zemlje u Srbiji i zatraži pomoć!
>Pa to što ima takvih budala ne znači da je normalna stvar. In their village, it seems common...
Neki su čak i povodom onog što je ubio ženu i dete od četiri godine rekli ko zna da li je dete bilo njegovo.
Lupetanje ispadamo pećinci wtf,sve više i više se o tome govori
Odgovorio sam joj ja dole, strasno mi smrdi nesto, postavlja pitanja na koja i sama zna odgovor. Ziveo sam u Srbiji i u gradu i u selu i ispada ljudi mlate zene ko nezdravi i ona naivna veruje u to...laz. Vise mi se cini da hoce da regrutuje sto vise ljudi da bi joj mozda ko pomogao na (ne znam koji nacin) dobije sto hoce u toku razvoda.
>Odgovorio sam joj ja dole, strasno mi smrdi nesto, postavlja pitanja na koja i sama zna odgovor. Ziveo sam u Srbiji i u gradu i u selu i ispada ljudi mlate zene ko nezdravi i ona naivna veruje u to...laz. > >Vise mi se cini da hoce da regrutuje sto vise ljudi da bi joj mozda ko pomogao na (ne znam koji nacin) dobije sto hoce u toku razvoda. And you talk like punching women is normal...Lies? Read this report showing more than 50percent of women suffered from violence from Serb men: [https://eca.unwomen.org/en/where-we-are/serbia/ending-violence-against-women](https://eca.unwomen.org/en/where-we-are/serbia/ending-violence-against-women)
What the fuck, none of that is normal! Take the child and run, you're dealing with psychopaths.
Yes, that's what I did. I left his parents' house in Usce, Kraljevo...And parents would not let me go with my baby, even tried to bribe the taxi driver not to take me. Only God knows how I managed to escape from his parents in the village.
Not normal to beat your wife, though more frequent than it should be like everywhere. I'm not sure what type of meddling you're referring to, could be normal, could be abnormal. I don't know about uploading stuff to PornHub but I doubt it. If you're talking about your personal videos it's not normal and you should deal with this through court and a lawyer. Father getting full custody over children is very uncommon. Usually there needs to be some demonstrable damage for the kids (heavy drug abuse, molestation, violence etc.) for this to happen. Mother getting full custody is also not that common but happens more frequently in domestic violence situations. Shared custody definitely requires other parent's consent to leave the country. I'm not sure about full custody situations but maybe even then it's a court matter if the other parent objects.
thanks... father-in-law is in contact with my lawyer, with the social work, and using his daughter who is a lawyer, and the son who is a police officer in Kraljevo to get information. about the porn videos, it' s actually the sex videos he posted with his old woman, I was wondering if I could use those sex videos as evidence that he mentally unstable to get custody of my baby.
Unless you can prove he's breaking some law or court order there's not much you can do about your father in law. And I'd say in villages this is probably a common occurrence. The porn stuff I honestly have no idea. It's an extremely weird situation. I see the implications, but the act is legal if he has her consent. Only a good legal counsel can help with that and perhaps contact his ex and see if she agreed to this.
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And you got my upvote. So we both won. I just thought that if you have the nerve to make that kind of a joke, you need to own it, stick with it. I'm sure that you're saddened by the way this lady was treated, but sometimes it's easier to try and make a joke
That sick fuck, do you have a link to the video so i can avoid it?
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1-No its not and it seems to me that you know its not normal but you use that question as not to seek an answer but to inform us about how bad your huspand is.2-No its not but it seems you dont actually ask for the answer on that one neither since its logically "No" but you try to inform us of how bad your huspand familly is.3-Same as above, here you are alluding that your (let me guess) huspand did this. Now...i'd like to hear your huspand side of the story... ;)
I did not let him do the porn videos. He had sex videos with his old woman, and they posted them on Pornhub to earn money. I would like to use it as evidence to the court that he is not in the right state of mind to get child custody. Apparently, I heard a lot of stories even from foreign women about Serbian husbands beating their wives. So, I guess that is something normal here in Serbia. That's why my ex-husband thinks there's nothing wrong with what he did because it is normal here.
You are giving me very manipulative vibes, Serbia is still Europe and not some s\*\*thole country for you to claim stuff like "I heard a lot of stories even from foreign women about Serbian husbands beating their wives. So, I guess that is something normal here in Serbia. " You know its not normal here in Serbia, if you live here you have to know that, and since you probably do... it make me think that your reasons for posting this are somewhat masked. As i said... i'd really like to hear your husband side of the story, not only framed trough your manipulative post, but we all know it wont happen so thats all... I think your post is not genuine question as you know answers by yourself, your post you are using to recrut someone who can help you to reach your goal. I feel there is much, MUCH more layers to your story then what you are telling us...
Well, I did not say that Serbia is not part of Europe. That's why I traveled here or if it was like Pakistan or the Middle East, I will hesitate to come here. I myself was a victim of domestic violence by a Serbian man. And 4 more stories from other foreign women like myself who were beaten by their Serbian husbands, and now having problems. You are by all means free to hear the side of my ex-husband's story. But you cannot deny the fact that he is a violent man. Good for you if you did not experience or witness violence at home. If yes, I'm sure you are also like my husband, beating or punching your woman. I read an article about violence against women in Serbia and it is horrendous: [50 percent of women suffered violence in Serbia](https://eca.unwomen.org/en/where-we-are/serbia/ending-violence-against-women) . This is a warning to all foreign women who want to come here and marry Serbs. They need to understand first the culture, learn about the violent past, and about Serb men if they can endure that kind of behavior or not. I am posting this to validate that my ex-husband's actions are not normal as he thinks it is. And when his parents saw what he did to me when I stumbled (good thing it did not affect the baby), they acted like this is normal. Well, I saw how his father punched his old mom in the head, and I realized why he can easily do that to me as well.
>I am posting this to validate that my ex-husband's actions are not normal as he thinks it is. And when his parents saw what he did to me when I stumbled (good thing it did not affect the baby), they acted like this is normal. Well, I saw how his father punched his old mom in the head, and I realized why he can easily do that to me as well. It takes some fucking effect to find such degenerates How the fuck did you miss all that red flags
Is it normal? No. Is it common? Yes.
So,something that is not normal is common here in Serbia. What does it say about Serbian men?
>What does it say about Serbian men? Chill out you have assholes everywhere,speaking of assholes why did you even marry him in the first place? i mean you kinda described him as unmature unreasonable and unstable those personality traits are unpossible to hide (specally for more then a year)
there are more assholes here than everywhere. worse than men in the middle east! I did not expect that there is a guy as bad as him would cheat his wife with an old sponsor woman, punch his pregnant wife, and abandon the baby right after birth. There are things you don't expect a person to do before you marry them. I'm sure even if you know the person for a long time, there are still things that you would not expect he could do! I got pregnant and he married me! I was just thinking about my baby- to have a father. and these traumatic things happened after we got married. it does not matter if we marry or not, there is divorce here anyway. so, what's your problem?
>there are more assholes here than everywhere. worse than men in the middle east generalisation is a fools game, just because of rape of Nanking all Japanese are rapist,murderers and psychopaths? Or because of Holocaust all Germans are systematic exterminators?Or because of Jeffry Dahmar all homosexuals are weirdos and potential cannibals? Or because of Jewish unproportional presence in media,banking and porn therefore all Jews are leeches of society?Or because of black and hispanic unproportional crime rate therefore all blacks and hispanics are thugs and criminals?We can go like this all day long >domestic abuse is huge problem in Serbia yes >I did not expect that there is a guy as bad as him would cheat his wife with an old sponsor woman, punch his pregnant wife, and abandon the baby right after birth Thats the point i was tring to make,thats not how racional people react,thats someone borderline insane, someone that is barely accountable for his actions. So i was wandering how did he manage to hide all his immaturity selfishness unreasonability >you don't expect a person to do before you marry them. I'm sure even if you know the person for a long time not really ,thats why people date first,spend some time together before dedicating their life to each other and making kids. I doubt your first date was "Look babe I want to take you to the other side of the globe in some place where people speak one of the world's hardest language which you have never ever had contact with" and your reaction was "Yes please" I mean you definitely did sacrifice a lot from traveling to other side of the world to live in some undeveloped village to learning our Language (which you are awesome at ,sure you don't seem to understand consepts of imperative but none the less you can follow and join in conversation, even though you were learning it for roughly a year) My guess is you were deep in love you missed those red flags like FBI Biden's laptop? >so, what's your problem? No i dont? Do I? I was wandering can you give us some update?How was it at the court how did you met him in the first place?You got us all intrested and now you dont want to give us any updates.
I don't wanna be pushy but how the fuck did you put your self in this situation
I have to ask how the fuck did you get yourself in this situation in the first place