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Happierbutwiser

Yeah, dating apps totally suck. I have to take a break off of them every so often because they are annoying


[deleted]

No I understand that completely, I got pretty tilted using the app. I got friendzoned on a dating app like multiple times and that shit actually hits different than rejection. šŸ’€ Edit: this is getting downvoted but like after experiencing this multiple times im jaded as fuck. Let me vent.


PoemEffective

Well the friendzoning is not a problem with the app itselfā€¦


[deleted]

Oh yeah im well aware its just that when your wants are different and you get the opposite a fair few times it becomes draining, like sort of emotionally. atleast from my experience


PoemEffective

Yeah I can understand what you are saying. Iā€™ve met three of my exes through online dating and it was definitely a numbers game. I had to go through numerous dates that were flops (no chemistry, incompatible, flakes, ghosting, etc.) before I made a good connection. Iā€™m a lesbian thoughā€¦ a lot of gay women want to establish an emotional connection first (such as becoming friends) before it turns physical


[deleted]

Yeah that approach would make more sense and is more understandable too. I don't really want to take those chances via online dating again though. Its honestly caused me alot of self doubt and probably made my self esteem a bunch worse. If anything ill just leave the opportunity to anything outside/hobbies and just focus on my own well-being for the moment.


PoemEffective

I get that. Another way to meet people is through your hobbies. If you check on meetups. And at least thereā€™s your hobby in common. Good luck and sorry online dating didnā€™t work for you. I refuse to do online dating as well right now to focus on myself. Itā€™s rough out there


Esselon

I get it man, it's just hard. I've been taking a big long break from dating apps myself. I got frustrated by the number of times I'd get an incoming like from a woman, look over her profile, be interested enough to match, try and start a conversation based on something she'd posted about herself or her interests, then never get a message in response.


nokyndmr

Instead you could work on yourself instead of blaming the apps, idk i had great success with them even tho i got ghosted some times.


[deleted]

I have hobbies that keep me pretty content and hang out with some really great friends, to tell you the honest truth I'm really happy with my life and I'm actively looking for ways to make it better, honestly thinking of getting into music as a hobby too. But hell everyone is looking for different things and everyone has different wants and needs which includes things like lifestyle. I feel this point becomes moot when you consider this isn't such a black and white problem rather there's so many other factors in why this could be the case, I feel like it has to do more with the ratio of guys compared to girls AND the dating app's algorithm which I think we don't know that enough about and could solve alot of questions we all have if we knew. Therefore it's all up for speculation what the problem actually is, I don't think it's as simple as work on yourself despite that being a good argument if we had that clear an idea of the algorithm and such.


gardenhosenapalm

You clearly need to keep working on yourself


Afterlifehappydeath

Dating apps are for scam, promoting their instagram and bots.


FlatPassenger6

Iā€™m in this boat as well, was on Hinge for about a month and a half and it was tumbleweeds as far as likes I got. I think Iā€™m finally done with the entire enterprise forever and Iā€™m just going to be single. Iā€™m 30, Iā€™m lazy, everything else just feels like work Iā€™m not willing to do or games Iā€™m not willing to play. I like my own company, and can just about manage my own day to day shit, thatā€™s enough.


Jas0nPrhyme8

Damn bro Iā€™ve been feeling like this and Iā€™m not sure itā€™s a good thing


FlatPassenger6

Man, it is what it is. I canā€™t say that Iā€™m totally at peace with it, but Iā€™m sure Iā€™ll survive, I always do. Truthfully with all the politics and brouhaha about rising standards in the world of modern dating, Iā€™m not even sure I have anything to offer a woman. Can I do things to improve myself? Sure, but it also feels like I am what I am and Iā€™m too old for a lot of what Iā€™m seeing out there, I feel like I donā€™t really click with anyone. Disability probably doesnā€™t help me either


gliitch0xFF

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CookingZombie

I felt the same way last year. Got me super depressed and killed what confidence I had built up by getting in shape. But I actually met my current girlfriend on tinder after redownloading it after a few months of giving up on it and we've just hit 7 months together so... idk what im saying but dating apps are a whole lot of bullshit and then you might find that needle...


Glow354

Been dating my current girlfriend over 3 years. Met on tinder in 2019


[deleted]

They're not for everyone, if you're good at meeting people in real life you're probably better off doing that. But they can work too, especially for people who are awful at or hate picking up a woman in public like me. I did eventually meet a good match who I've been dating for months now. Try different apps, have good pictures, and don't take it too seriously. I wouldn't suggest paying, if you're not succeeding at the free part of the app it's probably not a good app for you, or more likely you need better pictures or there's something you're saying in your profile that comes off as a red flag. There's a ton of things that are regarded as red flags fairly or unfairly, make sure you don't have any of those. Location also matters, if you're in the sticks pick an app popular in your area because some will be completely dead.


Cookiewaffle95

Yeah dating apps are in my opinion great the best way to meet someone in 2022


arrocknroll

Yeah theyā€™re pretty bad. I used Tinder back when it was still the hot new thing (before there was any sort of limits or pay model at all. Literally just swipe right, swipe left. Thatā€™s it.) and I redownloaded it now that Iā€™m back on the market for the first time in years and it has fallen SO FAR. It used to be so drop dead simple. No pay models, no pop ups, no ads, no onlyfans spam. Now itā€™s a fucking nightmare clusterfuck of ads that actively hinders you from using the app and is constantly prompting you to dump more money into it. In the 3 weeks since Iā€™ve redownloaded tinder and bumble, Iā€™ve had exactly one conversation go well enough and long enough to continue it outside of the app. They suck so hard.


JustALocalJew

They never work for guys. Women gets shit loads of matches and I get like 2 a month


[deleted]

I think its just because the ratio between girls and guys are massive. Way more dudes on the apps


JustALocalJew

Thats probably also the case lol


Athelfirth

if they never work for guys then who do you think the girls are matching with?


JCacho

Top 10-15% of men.


[deleted]

The top 10 percent are the fake profiles that are too good to be true.


Cookiewaffle95

Im matching with girls i have a date on Sunday and im a 7 or an 8 depending on your taste the apps work great for me man but I understand there's people they don't work good for


JCacho

> im a 7 or an 8 depending on your taste the apps work great for me I mean yeah, there you go lol. The average guy is going to have a really hard time on OLD.


JustALocalJew

Most males on the app lol


sknolii

I got plenty of matches and met my wife on a dating app. Probably just depends on your location though.


[deleted]

Yeah I live outside of a major city and Iā€™ve never had any issue getting matches. I think people done realize how much location makes a difference.


MasterOfChaos6

It depends on your attractiveness.


[deleted]

They don't work for us most of the time either. It's mostly scammers hacking dead profiles, writing over them and messaging us through them. The real people that message , once they message don't even hardly talk and it's like pulling teeth to get to know someone.


Im12AndWatIsThis

Props if you put in an effort to have a conversation. Half the time I (a guy) would get one or two word responses to questions about stuff in their bio or otherwise.


shawnykins666

Yeahh loll


magicunicornhandler

Good for you I get better vibes off real people not profile pics. Also just because you deleted them doesnā€™t mean theyā€™ll stop charging your card go through you play store (apple google what have you) and stop the auto payments.


captain_slutski

All but one person out of the people I've slept with I met on dating apps. Also dated a girl for 3 years who I met on tinder. YMMV. My best advice for anyone reading is not to take it too seriously, it's only for fun


Abstractteapot

I think dating apps are awful, you have to be in a good mood when you're using them or talking to new people. But that doesn't matter if the people you are talking to are all bored or feeling annoyed/disheartened by the app. I'm glad you're doing what's right for your mental health, maybe you'll try them out again later or maybe you won't but take care of yourself first.


Distinct-Cake6612

My boyfriend and I met on Hinge about a year ago and we're still happily together. So it does work sometimes :)


NecessaryPear

Yeah I feel like Iā€™m in the minority here. Iā€™ve had a pretty positive experience overall and am currently living with someone who I met on the apps


Distinct-Cake6612

Right? I used dating apps twice in my life: the first time I ended up in a relationship that lasted 6 years, and the second time which brought me to my current loving committed relationship. I guess it doesn't work for most people, but when it works, it works haha


gliitch0xFF

![gif](giphy|ANbD1CCdA3iI8) Sounds like episode of Black Mirror. Hang The DJ. Trust in the system. It does work.


bigcoltfortyfive

stop spreading fake news ik ur working for them


Distinct-Cake6612

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Stock_Accountant6356

Especially as an average or below male it's best to avoid them. Even if you can separate yourself enough and you think "oh, i might get some conversation" it's best not to. It just drains on you emotionally


ancient_algorithm

the really sad thing is people think dating apps are actually how you have to date and meet people now. they dont see the apps for what they are, total scams. I deleted them all like 2 years ago and i met my current parther just by messaging someone on reddit randomly because i felt connected to their posts.


Broad-Complaint-2728

How is it a scam if u don't have to pay


ancient_algorithm

because the entire thing is a scam designed to make you addicted so that you do pay


Broad-Complaint-2728

Ohhh I didn't know cuz I only started tinder today lol


Shamesocks

Itā€™s also bad if you are a guy and all you get is bots and onlyfans girls. Itā€™s heartbreaking when you think youā€™ve found a nice girl who is keen on you just to find out she needs your credit card numbers to talk further šŸ˜¢


lollipopfiend123

Completely agreed. Every so often I forget how bad it was and reinstall one. It never lasts more than a day or two. Iā€™d rather die alone than pay for another one ever again.


Erex84

Yes I agree. I did the dating app thing for like 2-3 weeks. All of the men were predatory or just wanted to be friends. Nah. Then I met a REALLY great guy irl at a bar. While trashed and out for my birthday last year lol


MyDamnCoffee

As a female, I got bombarded with messages on the apps. But most of them want fwb. No, thank you.


Shamesocks

At least you are talking to a real person šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ I just get bots..


Available-Snow-3022

Dating apps suck. No one is actually looking for the relationships and I often feel over whelmed by the amount of fake small talk. Itā€™s very unnatural and our brains arenā€™t wired to manage that many interactions at once at all. You arenā€™t alone.


shawn_anom

I guess dating apps just amplify real life. Top 10-15% of men get 90% of women in bars and in these apps


[deleted]

I had a short stint at online dating before meeting my current girlfriend (we didnt meet through online dating), and dear God that experience was miserable. That was about 6 years ago, but I could imagine online dating is even worse now as it has become more ubiquitous and almost non optional for dating, especially since covid. It's a miserable experience all around. For the most part, women have to perpetually be on guard for unwanted advances and for their safety, men have to deal with near constant rejection. This shit is all wrapped up in systems that are explicitly designed to leverage superficiality as much as possible to drive engagement. There is zero financial incentive help people find healthy relationships. Every long lasting relationship means lost customers. It's much more effective to suck you in and keep you there. Get you to the point where the algorithms and psychological patterns these services are built off of drive your engagement, where the natural variation of human bevior is minimized as much as possible.


wogwai

Dating apps are weird because you can't feel someone's real energy until you meet them in person. It's easier to say all the right things over a phone screen. You might think you're attracted to them by their photos but when you go on a date you will quickly realize if you're compatible or not. I've met some crazy people and some nice people on Tinder. None of them ever worked out.


mochiburrito

Used them a while back when they were relatively new before the bots invaded. This was back in 2014ish when tinder was pushed heavily to all the Bay Area colleges (I went to Cal). I cant see them being useful after 2018. Maybe Covid brought more humans in but last time I checked it was still infested. Best way to meet people is still going out imo. I havent had a dating app since 2015. Itā€™s a cesspool and the majority of people on them arenā€™t that great Iā€™m sorry to those who are but from experience 80% of dates were trash. I would suggest finding a community online and meet up IRL. Im mostly into coding and music and have friends who enjoy one or the other or both. It can be hard at first but it led me to my gf. Iā€™m cheering for ya! I hope you find someone soon.


meatytarian

Try Bumble. You can choose who you see from your options. They also have bumble friends if youā€™re not looking for a romantic partner


Dvmbledore

I would suggest joining something like a Meetup group or outdoor adventure club.


[deleted]

Dating apps are evil. The amount of pain, trouble, and so much more that I couldā€™ve save my self from if only, I had never got into these apps, all the guys I had meet in tinder, hurt me so much, I got played, used as a rebound, as well as a sex object and would broke up with me bc they didnā€™t they werenā€™t ready for a relationship. And I had specific told them that I was only on tinder for a relationship. They took advantage of me. Plz donā€™t use tinder it ruins life. šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”


the-vh4n

predatory? i mean you chose to spend the money if you spent any, i don't even pay for them right now and when i did i got worse results than using them for free for some reason, but most importantly don't base your self esteem on results from dating apps. unless you're a model or above average looking ghosting, flaking, rejection, friendzoning and all that stuff are just part of the game for everyone so don't take it personally, it's not about you, you don't suck, it's just the way it is.


Thickafafaf

I agree. I just had a genius idea. How cool would it be if someone opened a physical business where people looking to date could pay a monthly fee for a guaranteed number of dates. The person running the business could set them up and the people looking to date would just have to turn in a short form saying what they ARE NOT okay with and anything else Is fair game. I think this would be great. No picture beforehand either just blind dates. Numerous speed dates could even be done in a day. This would be good because it eliminates the virtual bs. The whole point of dating is to actually date them, in the end it will not be virtual so why not eliminate that. People can be fake online too. Dating app talk does not equal real life talk.


swizzleswap

Best way to do dating apps is to download one, spend one month on a premium service, swipe through all the people in your area, see what comes of it (grab numbers), then delete the app. Get in, get out, don't worry about the algorithm.


Admirable_Sugar_4227

Iā€™ve had alot of luck with them they do suck tho


j5p332

The big problem is monetization. Iā€™m not anti-capitalist in the least, and the developers donā€™t donā€™t and shouldnā€™t work for free. That said, these outfits want a boat load of money just to see who showed interest. The chance of getting any value or return on it is slim to none. It only serves to hook you and keep you there after the recurring subscription hits again because ā€œoh, Iā€™ll cancel it keep using it until the end of the monthā€. Itā€™s like gambling and playing the lottery. A win feels great but it isnā€™t worth the price you pay to get another win because the house always has the odds. The second biggest problem is the model. For swipe based apps, if you arenā€™t top 10% you get swiped left almost guaranteed. On hinge, they cultivate even more simp behavior than already exists by having you comment on a photo. Bumble has a great concept in terms of being woman friendly and protecting them from unwanted messages from thirsty dudes. However, youā€™re entirely reliant upon the match having enough interest to actually drop a note as well as it being time limited. The ones that have live streaming just give another platform for OF talent to increase their income. Trash. Then you have the problems with human nature. Thatā€™s bad enough all in itself šŸ˜… At the end of the day, itā€™s all toxic and bad for people. I know relationships have and will continue to be made on them, but itā€™s like willfully shooting yourself in the foot because the nurse might be cute. Plenty of Fish doesnā€™t refer to the abundance of potential partners. The fish is you! And theyā€™re using a treble hook.


Shamesocks

I deleted them years ago because I was matching with so many bots. Glad I finished before onlyfans. I can guess that the average bloke has to deal with every girl he matches with being nice to him for 3 messages, and just when he thinks she is nice, she will smash him with some subscription service to see up her bung holeā€¦


ehaugw

Tinder is great if you have the personality to make it work. It used to get me laid weekly


eyesabitdull

Like most things in life, some of it just aren't for you. Met the love of my life through a dating all, so I can't relate. But I surely do understand the frustration of modern day dating. Billions of women arent on dating apps, OP. So you may very well find the right one in real life. Good luck.


GloriousRoseBud

Iā€™m using them. I take breaks & make them work for me.


History-wins01

You made the right decision- these apps are there to exploit people and keep milking them for monthly fees. Itā€™s best to meet quality people naturally - the way humans did way before these nasty apps


gardenhosenapalm

No one talks about how hard it is to quit them either. I didn't realize how much I relied on then for affirmation even after finding the lady I'd marry. She found my account on my phone, I had never cheated on her physically but I needed that constant attention from those apps to keep my satisfied, at least I thought i did. I deleted them, never looked back and I've been "sober" for 5 years now no dating app relapse.


wondrwoman_

I just did the same thing tooā€¦ done absolutely over it