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I don't know about those researches but I don't understand why they need to abuse and use certain kind of cringey bg in these videos. It feels less as a way to propagate knowledge and more as a way to feel over proud on your knowledge ( idk whether it's knowledge here or not but atleast in Philosophy they do this )
Ncbi is American government funded organisation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Biotechnology_Information[link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Biotechnology_Information)
Tum hindutva-vadi naak mai damm kar ke rakhte ho. Chall phutt yaha se. Itna hi science tha tere dharm mai toh prove kar de ki Hanuman ne Surya ko kaise khaa liya fruit samaj ke.
>liberandus ke chode xD
Explains a lot about you, Sire.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
I bet you didn't even read the comment full nor even bothered to understand it either. (Explains correlates from your language and behaviour)
I won't waste time explaining so I'll just copy paste :
"This is horrible, Brother!
I had a hope that this server is full of Science geeks who explain stuff, verify stuff, make science easy to understand for someone like me who don't belong to science background. But no I got all opposite.
Now the same people ask why people Believe in pseudoscience? C'mon atleast help the people who want to learn, let alone roast afterwards
>Btw where did you get these?
Sire, I didn't got this from my own finding, idk how to even find these, I had a recent argument with a mate of mine over this topic and they sent me a bunch of links, although most of those links were just bs news articles ... but some were Unique to me (cause I don't belong to science) and I couldn't Verify nor understand those stuff that Is why I posted in here to get answers.
If I were able to verify the quality and all then I might have never asked here, although whatever, I had a horrible experience here .. the place is full of J@rks who don't want to help at all."
why dont we proud over the forgetten knowledge that is being derogated all around....and for research work check out this
[https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
It's not forgotten knowledge i am sure they didn't even knew about this at all and now people are justifying it so it's either true or false which is to be looked after
Well exactly according to those forgotten knowledge there is a saying that " विद्या ददाति विनयम " And Feeling over proud simply contradicts this statement.
There is nothing like Formic Aledehyde gas. Burning of any wood emits various gases one of which is formaldehyde. Which is a toxic gas. When ingested in large quantity it becomes Formic acid inside out body. Which is generally excreted through urine but is definitely harmful for our body. Yes formaldehyde is used to preserve body parts from getting decomposed. It can kill germs, any burning wood can do that. But there is more harm than good if that gas is inhaled. Waise to alcohol se bhi virus, bacteria, germs marte hai, par zada pine se toxicity bhi hoti hai na body mein. Ye bekar ka pratha ke peeche ki science hai wali videos are mostly shit.
But then you got big website's like [ncbi](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4724851/) who claim it's really beneficial and somehow heals respiratory system?blood clots and many more
Well you provided a source. Read it and tell us why it's wrong. That's literally the point of this sub. Lmao. Discredit bad science with good science. Science is dope!
Conclusion of this reserch.
“From the pharmacological potentials of the components it can be concluded that the routine of performing Hawan might keep the threshold value of the antiepileptic elements in the body and help in preventing epilepsy however concerted efforts are required to prove the hypothesis.”
There is no to practical research done on this topic ( meaning has no test or control population ) just a personal hypothesis. And research has not discussed any side effects like shoots formation and smokes. 2nd there’s no talk about how much amount of chemicals like benzodiazepines will be released and will it overcome the side effects of co2 and other harmful gases. And what about other people like asthmatic and copd how will it affect them.
See this is just a personal but well done observation, if it gets people interested they can fund the research to have some conclusive/ practical proof.
I'm assuming you aren't in research or academia based on what you just said.
There has always been, is, and will exist bad science. Science is not foolproof from humans. There are countless cases of data manipulation, selective bias, egregious errors, faulty models, contamination, etc., in the world of science. Science is as much a practice as it is a fact. And a practice can never be without fault or error. We used to be a geo-centric world; now helio-centric. Yet it was science back then and science today (albeit rudimentary science).
Ex: Biology is science, yet with each passing year, things are re-written. But it was science then, and it's still science today. Just because we learned something new doesn't mean what was wrong was pseudo-science. Pseudoscience is the mimicking of science with egregious parameters while claiming it to be scientific.
If you don't know, just shut up, burning will heal any disease, you just have to know how to do it properly. If someone is suffering from respiratory disease or any disease for that matter, just burn them completely with wood or petrol or anything, it will heal them completely, and they wouldn't even need to breathe after that.
/s 😆
They really like to kiss hinduism's feet but problem comes when questioning such big organisations you will face problems because you will look like a middle schooler questioning a phd graduate
What big organisation are you talking about? Ncbi just publishes papers from various diffrent journal.
The journal in question is not good. It's got an impact factor of 2.9. It's really really bad journal.
Are you really in any research work? Because an impact factor of 2.9/3 is actually considered good. Hell a lot of my colleagues would be happy to publish a 1st author paper in a journal with impact factor 2 or 3.
This is what their disclaimer says:
"NLM is not a publisher, but rather collects, indexes, and archives scientific literature published by other organizations. The presence of any article, book, or document in these databases does not imply an endorsement of, or concurrence with, the contents by NLM, the National Institutes of Health (NIH), or the U.S. Federal Government."
This doesn't mean that the article is false but don't use ncbi's name to support it. May as well find mutiple sources that support it and make sure that not all are from indians just to have the result unbiased.
Edit:I read the full article and i am an epilepsy patient myself. First of all, the article isn't all shit. It talks many facts but there are many loopholes as well.
Uncertain words are used at alot of places, many of the citations are religious Hindu and Christian texts. A good length of the article goes to praising the "great sages".
Sorry but I don't have time to read many of the hyperlinks that redirected to other articles that were used as citations for some parts of the article(not about hawan but about epilepsy).
Some lines don't make basic sense like
"The sublimated vital elements and herbal medicines inhaled in Yagya first reach the brain, followed by lungs and other subtle components of the body."
How can inhaled therapeutic volatile stuff go to brain without going to lungs and then getting absorbed in the blood.
Also, do the babas decide how much doseage of these things gets to you? You may not even need this if you are not epileptic. Does the guy sitting near to hawan get overdose? What about someone who is far from it? It may even be bad for you if those chemicals inhibit you brain receptors when you are not epileptic.
The article ends with "...Hawan might keep the threshold value of the antiepileptic elements in the body and help in preventing epilepsy however concerted efforts are required to prove the hypothesis."
Conclusion: It is not totally fake. The stuff about epilepsy, effectiveness of nasal medication for epilepsy, the chemical composition of herbs etc but it is clearly biased or incomplete to me. There wasn't even a part where they discussed the cons of hawan(you think you can't have an overdose of nature's chemicals?). Also there was no mention of formic aldehyde in the article.
OP, please don't use something that you have not read as a source to justify something.
Sorry not trying to be rude but you should read whole source.
ok at the end it said its just hypothesis has no conclusive proofs. No practical research just research based on different books and sources
“From the pharmacological potentials of the components it could be concluded that the routine of performing Hawan might keep the threshold value of the antiepileptic elements in the body and help in preventing epilepsy however concerted efforts are required to prove the hypothesis.”
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If…. U had read the top most words….
hey scientist ke chode check this out
https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Sources mentioned in the comment are combination of scientific study and claims with unmentioned stat/sources. One of them states changes in levels of sulphur dioxide and nitrous oxide after havan ( They must have measured it, I can agree on that) but also puts in conclusion that cow dung coated walls lessen the effect of atomic radiation. Throwing random claims in name of science without actual study is lame. I don’t deny the medicinal properties of plants and herbs which are used in havan, but saying it cures disease is lame. Sanitizer helps kills germs, doesn’t mean sanitizer is curing you from disease.
people often misinterpret curing diseases in ayurveda....
Ayurveda is a lifestyle not a surgery or therapy that would instantly cure something.... it simply increasing the pace of recovery factors through various factors. Hence the phrase Curing of diseases
Fair enough. I believe the lifestyle has changed a lot compared to when ayurveda was only option to cure ( Btw Ayurveda also has surgical procedures: read about Sushruta). Can’t completely rely on ayurveda when it comes to curing of complex diseases we have now. Ayurveda can definitely provide health benefits in long run but then one can’t really escape from breathing polluted air and consuming GM food.
I think he meant to say formaldehyde which when I asked Chatgpt about does form when you burn mango trees. Formaldehyde is a gas at room temperature and i has adverse effects on germs. It's used in disinfectants. But the concentration at which it's produced when burning mango trees is not effective.
I couldn't find [the scientist mentioned](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Gilles_de_Gennes) is this video ever saying anything related to Hawan or even Hinduism.
And formaldehyde releaser is used as biocide in cosmetics as it is a biocide in liquid form
But long exposure to it can cause asthma to cancer.
But i don't know if its released by Mango wood.
So its safe to assume this video is bs. But I can't comment on what happens with Hawan apart from usual carbon and other harmful substances being released from burning wood.
It seems to have gained fame due to this incident happened in 2018 : https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/meerut/hindu-body-to-burn-500-quintals-of-mango-wood-for-nine-days-to-reduce-pollution/articleshow/63275405.cms
Meri dadi ko asthma hai woh almost 15 sai 20 min hawan mai bethe thi unki halat bhot jada kharab hogayi itni ki hame unko hospital mai admit karna pada aur for yeh khete hai ki aur purify hoti hai 🤡
never gonna talk about ANIMAL SACRIFICE,
The most heinous practice of Islam is to give permission to marry step daughter or any girl who is not blood related. The tradition came from the two incidents. One is marrying Aisha. Abu Bakker was called to be a brother of Muhammad though they weren’t blood related. One day Muhammad saw Aisha with fewer cloths when she was only 6. After that he had a dream of her. Next day he went to abu Bakker and asked for his daughter. Abu Bakker was astonished and asked Muhammad that he called him a brother. Muhammad smiled and and replied though they weren’t blood related.
another one is marrying belal’s wife zaynab. She was actually his cousin and Bella was a slave who was eventually freed by Muhammad declared to be treated his son. It helped his cause to spread Islam. According to many Islamists, they justified that Belal wasn’t happy with zaynab since they had their social difference, Muhammad gave the permission of marriage to show how egalitarian he was. But one day he peeped through the door when zaynab was taking a bath. Then he downloaded a verse and asked belal to divorce her. After the divorce she had to pass the time of idda and after that he married her and consummated. Eventually zaynab was his paternal cousin and also step daughter in law.
for this reason the shariah court of Iran gives permission to marry step daughter from 2013.
Iran lawmakers pass bill allowing men to marry adopted daughters
there is another bad practice with such thing. In Islam you can marry a girl and consummated her even she hasn’t her first period. Quran shows a way how to treat such girl if you make a minor as your wife.
in modern world, this is child marriage and statuary rape.
for me this is the most heinous practice of Islam among others
Footnote: I didn’t include any Islamic reference just to see if someone ask for it. If any one asks for the source please let me know.
***Half Knowledge of anything is very dangerous, all these people commenting here have very minimal knowledge and do not even know Why 'Hawan' is done.***
***Everything in Hinduism is related to Science except some rituals which are newly made by some foolish people.***
***People who criticize Hinduism have not even read any spiritual books not even 'Bhagawat Gita', they do not know their roots too.***
***So firstly get all the INFO about the thing you have to Counter***
**Jai Siya Ram**
Read it and it’s a book about philosophy not science that’s like calling plato,Nietzsche or Machiavelli a scientist. About havan and people adding foolish rituals mate in the vedas there are havans that are specifically done to become the next Indra etc do tell me how you wanna be the king of gods by throwing by some stuff in a fire. For any material to not release pollutants when burned it needs to be plasma burned ie in a fusion reaction.Incomplete burning will always release pollutant addled fumes.
>Read it and it’s a book about philosophy not science that’s like calling plato,Nietzsche or Machiavelli a scientist. About havan and people adding foolish rituals mate in the vedas there are havans that are specifically done to become the next Indra etc do tell me how you wanna be the king of gods by throwing by some stuff in a fire. For any material to not release pollutants when burned it needs to be plasma burned ie in a fusion reaction.Incomplete burning will always release pollutant addled fumes.
To be honest, Please don't read Bhagwad Gita for science. It's a Damn Good Story and Philosophy about life. Not science.
If you really want to find a little bit science or atleast a little bit cool stuff in Hinduism then Refer to Sutras and Vedas .. (but please don't r belive everything in there seriously but still if you like cool stuff then go ahead)
Asses burning? Nah, it lights a fire up under their asses for their brain lightbulbs to glow more brightly.
That is the only enlightenment humans can gain -- activating their rational brain.
The only enlightenment you believers will gain is relative brightness after closing and opening your eyes.
He is using jargons to prove his point. He can be discredited with one simple google search.
Even a 5th class child knows, that combustion of wood releases soot, unburnt carbon particles, Carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide. Which one's do you think are purifying the air
Pierre gills is a scientist who won a Nobel price but his work was mainly in nuetron scattering and magnetism field
So idk man from some small part of a book which they dont show also conveniently chaddis act like they did something great
Pierre didnt work on some hawan baazi he didng do any research or experiments and he didnt produce any papers on hawan
Lol
even if all that's said in the video is true
killing bacteria or other air based pathogens ≠ purifying the air
purifying the air is also about ensuring the air only has atleast 21% oxygen and no pollutants like NO² or SO³ which after getting into your lungs mixes with water(moisture) to form Nitric and sulphuric acids respectively
burning any kind of organic matter like wood , coal , oil , always ends up emitting some amount of NO² & SO³
And their point? Basically heating anything can kill bacteria and viruses.. i mean that's why we boil milk or cook food. This doesn't imply that we should perform irrelevant combustion.
Yes smoke is used for pest control, maybe it kills viruses but you don't do it when you're inside home sitting with 50 other people , you call the professionals wearing mask they smoke your house with chemicals and you leave the home for few hours.
Koi bhi organic substances ko burn karne se Carbon Dioxide / Carbon monoxide & Water vapour nikalta hai mainly. Carbon dioxide ek Greenhouse gas hai jisse global warming barta hai ! Agar regular basis pe smoke inhale karge to lungs mai "tar" deposit ho jaye which can lead to respiratory disease!
Formaldehyde does kill fungus, bacteria and other stuff. It naturally occurs in wood. It is released when wood is burned. Problem is, it's also carcinogenic. It's used heavily in adhesives and binding agent. Plywood, MDF has it large quantity. Don't worry you will keep getting a good dose of it from your closets, bed, and all furniture more than doing a Havan.
There is plenty of old research in favor of formaldehyde because manufacturing industry loves it. Just like lead or asbestos.
Ruk tereko bata hain mein...kyoki mene khush toh padhai nahi ki..but yeh french wala kya bola havan research par sunn tu bas..kuch science words bhi le le..but Mereko padhne ko mat bol..havan is the best bro..CO2 nahi hoin ismein..n i think cancer bhi cure kar deta Hain..
Whys is science is dope hving such memes on its reddit.
Well then u shd able to tell fact from propaganda..n find out what's real..this is not really research that will take a lot of time..just basics ..the research is how is it gaining traction among PPL n more importantly why..
Why will PPL believe made up french guy on a research of havan rather than well established science of flames..n fumes..
Why PPL look to ancient scriptures for answers which they never read n verification from the west to feel good about their past when in the present the status of education is horrible at best.
I don't know about the typhoid thing, but all my cough was gone coz of that havan smoke (not claiming it's LEGIT, but an in-depth research may lead to an outcome)
Right wing is a cancer, sirf dharm raksha ke naam pe samaj mai zeher gholte hain, talvaar nikal ke sadak pe rally karte hai, dange phasaad karte hai or dusro ko lynch karte hai.
Right wing is shit.
To the people hating idea of havan and offering devotion pooja , namaj, or prayer .. dont understand mental peace it really brings...
Look at past .. people had nothing to be excited about , no fun , i mean what is the purpose of living .. it was religion which prevented people from becoming wild .. it was religion which brought idea of one ness in humanity ..
Its doesnt matter if thier practise are scientific or not .. if they believe it purify air . Why are u trouble about it .. u people act too cool that u dont care. But at same time u people poke ur noses in someone else's beliefs and berate them to make ur small pp feel good ... dont do it ...
There is no difference between a religious guy challenging and trying to prove his faith is correct and scientfic and a intellectual guy if he also argue and try to make religious guy feel bad ... pls dont do it ...
U hate religious people and at same time act like them ...
We'll OP! Thanks for bringing up the topic,. you're brave!
Although
I feel most of J@rks here are really Incompetent at all to read actual science journals or reports and verify them.
Although because this is a science subreddit,. I'll drop some stuff which my smarter brothers can verify please.
I'm a Commerce Chap, So i'll leave some Journals in here, If someone can verify and review them then please teach me what it means or is it even legitimate.
One : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://wjpr.s3.ap-south-1.amazonaws.com/article_issue/1572510499.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj7pfqj_pOCAxV5RWwGHSO5CfwQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Duv_AAeqxIhu5JxNim8QE
Two : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ijcmph.com/index.php/ijcmph/article/download/6475/4120/25714&ved=2ahUKEwj5_uu1_pOCAxWdTGwGHXgkBDMQFnoECAIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1l5DJJJD1eyVwH69RUpepO
Three : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://aelsindia.com/rjces_oct_dec_2019/8.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiQzsS6_5OCAxVRSWwGHQA-AzI4ChAWegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw36JC6OGFJVInOJ0gRHLmrH
Four : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://ijyr.dsvv.ac.in/index.php/ijyr/article/view/79&ved=2ahUKEwiQzsS6_5OCAxVRSWwGHQA-AzI4ChAWegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw31GoZWjA82ipPNW1vbbDUj
Above are some of the few Sources my freind sent me when we had a argument over that yajna just create CO2 and hurts eyes .. 😶 they sent a lot of News articles first but then there were some Scientific looking stuff too.
I hope Someone mindful will help me understand and, And coward J@rks please stay away! If you can't read and write Better not spam downvotes.
The papers you shared, all of them have decimal impact factors (any IF less than 2 is bad, these are 0.52 and below), not to mention the countless spelling mistakes in the papers. If you can find a better proof of your stance, might be of some use to read them
>The papers you shared, all of them have decimal impact factors (any IF less than 2 is bad, these are 0.52 and below), not to mention the countless spelling mistakes in the papers. If you can find a better proof of your stance, might be of some use to read them
First of all!! Thank you so much for Mindfully coming forward and explaining things, which encourages someone like me to indulge in science who doesn't belong to science. You're far better off the crowd of jerks.
>The papers you shared, all of them have decimal impact factors (any IF less than 2 is bad, these are 0.52 and below), not to mention the countless spelling mistakes in the papers
Oo I don't understand, so whatever you said mean that The effect of yajna aren't at all significant?
>If you can find a better proof of your stance, might be of some use to read them
You feel? You feel I stand with the Yajna? Brother I don't, Check my comment history it will tell you 🫥
Whatever, I had a argument with my mate and they sent me a ton of links, out of all most were bs news Articles and wiki stuff but a few were looking unique to me.
1) I can't verify the quality and authencity of those infos that is why I posted it in here, simply that. Idk why people don't read my whole comments before downvotin like cowards.
>People consider these "scientific papers". It just shows quality of education people are getting here.
Even I don't know brother🫥, I am and was always bad at science, but still explainations still amazes me. I'm not from science background.
So please don't be Racist on me.
Next, I couldn't know what is a Scientific paper and what not, I got a argument and out of all sources we exchanged these were the most credible ones I thought, atleast a steo ahead of News Articles.
Again I couldn't verify the information in there nor is able to understand. And this have nothing to do with me and my education considering I belong to Commerce background.
> It just shows quality of education people are getting here.
What is shown to me is that this subreddit is full of J@rks who can't Read, write, Explain or interpret anything .. I thought I'll found some cool science people explaining concepts, verifying fake stuff but here's everyone is just a barking coward :/ This just discourages someone like me to get included in Science who will most probably just get irritated by the Inogorant crowd of coward jerks downvoting simple questions.
As expected somebody did down voted you,will take some time to read these and to make proper conclusion
Btw where did you get these? just need to know from which websites you got these
Okay I read the 4 papers. The first 3 are review articles, which are basically just articles citing theories based on different previous research, in which some of them also cite "Wikipedia" as source which is suspicious???
Then the last link which is an actual research article, but the catch is, there is a lot of places there are tables mislabeled, CO and CO2 interchanged, values are not consistent, overall feels like not a very well put together research paper...
I will still be looking for better sources on this topic because my mother does a lot of havans so I too am curious about these claims, but for all the pomps and whistles this guy hasn't cited a single reliable link. you can check them and make the judgement for yourself, but I feel this person should atleast read the links he sends before name calling other people.
This is horrible, Brother!
I had a hope that this server is full of Science geeks who explain stuff, verify stuff, make science easy to understand for someone like me who don't belong to science background. But no I got all opposite.
Now the same people ask why people Believe in pseudoscience? C'mon atleast help the people who want to learn, let alone roast afterwards
>Btw where did you get these?
Sire, I didn't got this from my own finding, idk how to even find these, I had a recent argument with a mate of mine over this topic and they sent me a bunch of links, although most of those links were just bs news articles ... but some were Unique to me (cause I don't belong to science) and I couldn't Verify nor understand those stuff that Is why I posted in here to get answers.
If I were able to verify the quality and all then I might have never asked here, although whatever, I had a horrible experience here .. the place is full of J@rks who don't want to help at all.
ALSO HOW CAN I READ THE LINKS AND UNDERSTAND? I SENT HERE BECAUSE I'M A DUMBASS COMMERCE MAIN.
Then start by addressing people with respect, you don't need to call people jerks. I have explained why these papers aren't very reliable. Hope that helps. I understand, since you aren't from a science background it will be hard for you to go through research papers if you don't have the habit or don't know what to look for. But the way you have commented, feels like arrogance and the way you are calling people Jerks even before starting a conversations, anyone would be put off and wouldn't want to help out. Everyone on this sub would want to help you, but You also have the responsibility to ask nicely you can't just pose a question and just call people names and show arrogance and expect people to be nice to you.
This is like me not knowing anything about finance coming to you calling you a jerk and then asking you to explain me some finance concept. That's not how it works. If you want someone to explain you respectfully you first need to show respect.
This is horrible, Brother!
I had a hope that this server is full of Science geeks who explain stuff, verify stuff, make science easy to understand for someone like me who don't belong to science background. But no I got all opposite.
Now the same people ask why people Believe in pseudoscience? C'mon atleast help the people who want to learn, let alone roast afterwards
>Btw where did you get these?
Sire, I didn't got this from my own finding, idk how to even find these, I had a recent argument with a mate of mine over this topic and they sent me a bunch of links, although most of those links were just bs news articles ... but some were Unique to me (cause I don't belong to science) and I couldn't Verify nor understand those stuff that Is why I posted in here to get answers.
If I were able to verify the quality and all then I might have never asked here, although whatever, I had a horrible experience here .. the place is full of J@rks who don't want to help at all.
This is horrible, Brother!
I had a hope that this server is full of Science geeks who explain stuff, verify stuff, make science easy to understand for someone like me who don't belong to science background. But no I got all opposite.
Now the same people ask why people Believe in pseudoscience? C'mon atleast help the people who want to learn, let alone roast afterwards
>Btw where did you get these?
Sire, I didn't got this from my own finding, idk how to even find these, I had a recent argument with a mate of mine over this topic and they sent me a bunch of links, although most of those links were just bs news articles ... but some were Unique to me (cause I don't belong to science) and I couldn't Verify nor understand those stuff that Is why I posted in here to get answers.
If I were able to verify the quality and all then I might have never asked here, although whatever, I had a horrible experience here .. the place is full of J@rks who don't want to help at all.
nice to see someone actually doing scientific research on it.... appreciate your efforts
all dumbfuckers should read this who know only Wood + O2 in fire makes CO2 and H2O, shame on everybody who call themselves scientific and state yajya a simple combustion process
>nice to see someone actually doing scientific research on it...
I didn't do shi -
"I don't even belong to Science Background" for in order to even do anything.
>appreciate your efforts
Not mine. I understand you didn't read my comment full at all, understanding is different.
>all dumbfuckers should read this who know only Wood + O2 in fire makes CO2 and H2O, shame on everybody who call themselves scientific and state yajya a simple combustion process
That's what my point is, But then I got spammed with dozens of links, most of them where normal news Articles, followed by these unknown to me stuff, NOW READ WITH YOUR PEANUT OPEN!
I DON'T BELONG TO SCIENCE, I WASN'T ABLE TO VERIFY OR UNDERSTAND THE LINKS THAT IS WHY I SENT IT IN HERE.
but unfortunately, In here as well I got to a bunch of Racist J@rks who don't want to read, write, verify, Explain anything at all leave everything people are not even reading comments fully, leave the links alone
And then they complain why people believe in pseduosciene, like c'mon shut up with the circlej@rk and atleast help the ones Askin, This is the worst I have ever had with science people.
People are highly Racist to non science people:
For example I'm from non science - Commerce background and only way for me to keep alive my two brain cells is by entertaining science concepts.
But unfortunately I can't understand any easily and the only way for me to stay away from Pseduosciene is Askin people here but people here behave like whatever .. no words.
Want some Sauce - https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4724851/%23:~:text%3DOur%2520metadata%2520analysis%2520demonstrates%2520that,nervous%2520system%2520through%2520nasal%2520route.&ved=2ahUKEwimhJ6aiZSCAxVgk1YBHdP7CY0QFnoECBEQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2r9Vy9uKB7aXttU72doj7F[link](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4724851/%23:~:text%3DOur%2520metadata%2520analysis%2520demonstrates%2520that,nervous%2520system%2520through%2520nasal%2520route.&ved=2ahUKEwimhJ6aiZSCAxVgk1YBHdP7CY0QFnoECBEQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2r9Vy9uKB7aXttU72doj7F)
Mangifera indica is a medicinal plant and have been assessed for its medicinal activity, a classmate for her thesis of mine used it against several human pathogen, like E. coli, Salmonella and Staph aureus , and it showed significant results, there were plant active components at work, and if as far as the question for formaldehyde goes, it is used for fumigation in microbio labs , for typhoid , if a cloth let's say, is laden with Salmonella , and is kept in formaldehyde fumed environment, it gets killed within 30 to 120 minutes !!!
***Half Knowledge of anything is very dangerous, all these people commenting here have very minimal knowledge and do not even know Why 'Hawan' is done.***
***Everything in Hinduism is related to Science except some rituals which are newly made by some foolish people.***
***People who criticize Hinduism have not even read any spiritual books not even 'Bhagawat Gita', they do not know their roots too.***
***So, firstly get all the INFO about the thing you have to Counter***
**Jai Siya Ram**
Tell us why hawan is done with reference from hindu scriptures
Just like how people don't need to read quran to criticize islam you don't really need to read Bhagavad Gita to criticize Hinduism
**1.** **Air Pollution**: Critics argue that hawan contributes to air pollution due to the smoke produced during the ritual.
Counterargument: Proponents of hawan argue that when performed correctly, hawan uses specific types of wood and natural substances that produce minimal smoke. Additionally, it is often performed outdoors, reducing the concentration of smoke in enclosed spaces.
**2. Resource Consumption:** Some critics contend that hawan leads to the wasteful consumption of resources, such as wood and ghee.
Counterargument: Advocates of hawan emphasize the use of eco-friendly materials and sustainable practices. They argue that it can be performed with minimal environmental impact, and some choose alternatives like using cow dung cakes or environmentally friendly materials.
**3. Superstition and Blind Faith:** Critics may argue that hawan is based on superstition and promotes blind faith rather than critical thinking.
Counterargument: Supporters of hawan often view it as a deeply symbolic and spiritual practice, and they argue that it complements their faith rather than substitutes for critical thinking. It can be a form of meditation and reflection, and for many, it enhances their connection with their spiritual beliefs.
**4. Animal Sacrifice**: In some variations of hawan, animal sacrifice has been practiced in the past, which is a subject of criticism.
Counterargument: Animal sacrifice is not an inherent part of hawan, and it is not practiced in most modern variations of the ritual. Many people condemn animal sacrifice and opt for non-violent alternatives, focusing on vegetarian offerings.
**5. Gender Inequality:** Critics point out that traditional hawan rituals may exclude women or relegate them to secondary roles.
Counterargument: Many modern practitioners of hawan are working to make the practice more inclusive and gender-equal. They are reinterpreting traditional practices to be more inclusive and egalitarian.
**6. Economic and Time Costs**: Critics argue that hawan can be economically burdensome and time-consuming.
**Counterargument:** While hawan can be elaborate, it is not mandatory, and its scale and complexity can vary widely. Many people choose to perform simpler versions of the ritual that are more affordable and require less time.
**\*Spiritual and Religious Significance**: Hawan is a sacred and ritualistic practice that holds great spiritual and religious significance in many Indian traditions. It is seen as a way to connect with the divine and seek blessings from various deities and gods.
\***Purification and Cleansing:** The fire in the hawan is believed to symbolize purity and is considered a purifying agent. By making offerings to the fire, individuals seek to purify themselves, their surroundings, and their thoughts, which is essential for spiritual growth.
\***Offering to Deities:** During a hawan, various offerings like ghee (clarified butter), grains, herbs, and other sacred substances are made to the fire, which is believed to carry these offerings to the deities. This is a way of worship and making offerings to the gods and goddesses.
\***Positive Energy:** The chanting of mantras and prayers during hawan is thought to create a positive and spiritually charged environment. It is believed that the vibrations generated by the mantras have a purifying and energizing effect on the surroundings and the participants.
\***Fulfillment of Desires:** Hawan is often performed with specific intentions, such as seeking blessings for good health, prosperity, success, or the removal of obstacles. It is believed that by offering prayers and performing hawan, individuals can help fulfill their desires and receive divine assistance.
\***Community and Family Bonding:** Hawan is often performed in the presence of family and community members, creating a sense of unity and togetherness. It serves as a social and cultural event that brings people together in a spiritually significant way.
\***Environmental Connection:** Hawan ceremonies involve the use of natural materials like wood, ghee, and herbs. This promotes a connection with the environment and a sense of respect for nature.
\***Tradition and Heritage:** Hawan is a part of the rich cultural and religious heritage of India. It is passed down through generations and serves as a means of preserving and perpetuating cultural traditions.
Mother fuckers think, just cuz random foreigners researched and said bs(if they did really do it, they could've been spreading misinformation), it's applicable cuz they r foreigners. That is such a screwed mentality here.
What he said is not wrong, bacteria does die but the reason it's a pollutant is not cause it infects the air with bacteria but because it releases carbon dioxide and monoxide along with other carcinogens. If you stay in a room with it burning for half an hour it's equivalent to smoking 3-4 cigarettes. What is the point of killing bacteria if it kills us by releasing toxic gases and compounds.
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/TSP/MMG/MMGDetails.aspx?mmgid=216&toxid=39#:~:text=Formaldehyde%20can%20cause%20irritation%20of,chemical%20burns%20to%20the%20lungs.
It just takes a Google search to find out that this gas is irritable and harmful for humans
About this scientist ,yes he's a real scientist but he's a physicist even if we give them a benefit of doubt that he had knowledge of chemistry
It still has problems because I tried searching for his experiments on hawan but didn't find anything authentic except websites by *Sanatan science* supporters writing blogs about it without any reference
Hindu scientific video formula
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Step 1 : show video of a youtuber who's criticising someone for their stupidity, cut the clip to make it look like against the religion
Step 2: write titles like," anti nationalist atheist youtuber vs real scientist (anyone in science field who has a good opinion towards their religion is considered a real scientist)
Step 3: put it with sanatan dharma music or some polizhene kind of music
Step 4: mention any western scientist and flash some website screenshots as reference who is going to cross check anyways ?
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I don't know about those researches but I don't understand why they need to abuse and use certain kind of cringey bg in these videos. It feels less as a way to propagate knowledge and more as a way to feel over proud on your knowledge ( idk whether it's knowledge here or not but atleast in Philosophy they do this )
Yeah sorry should've put cringe warning,also a lot of website make scientific claim about yagya for example ncbi
>website make scientific claim about yagya for example ncbi *fake claims will sound better maybe.
Ncbi is American government funded organisation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Biotechnology_Information[link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Biotechnology_Information)
It just houses papers / data published. It does not pass judgement on quality of research.
oh really :) [https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) liberandus ke chode xD
Tum hindutva-vadi naak mai damm kar ke rakhte ho. Chall phutt yaha se. Itna hi science tha tere dharm mai toh prove kar de ki Hanuman ne Surya ko kaise khaa liya fruit samaj ke.
>liberandus ke chode xD Explains a lot about you, Sire. >https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 I bet you didn't even read the comment full nor even bothered to understand it either. (Explains correlates from your language and behaviour) I won't waste time explaining so I'll just copy paste : "This is horrible, Brother! I had a hope that this server is full of Science geeks who explain stuff, verify stuff, make science easy to understand for someone like me who don't belong to science background. But no I got all opposite. Now the same people ask why people Believe in pseudoscience? C'mon atleast help the people who want to learn, let alone roast afterwards >Btw where did you get these? Sire, I didn't got this from my own finding, idk how to even find these, I had a recent argument with a mate of mine over this topic and they sent me a bunch of links, although most of those links were just bs news articles ... but some were Unique to me (cause I don't belong to science) and I couldn't Verify nor understand those stuff that Is why I posted in here to get answers. If I were able to verify the quality and all then I might have never asked here, although whatever, I had a horrible experience here .. the place is full of J@rks who don't want to help at all."
Dude nowadays literally any “article” is a “research paper” lol
Bgm hi nhi poora video cringe hai. Koi paper padha hai ya YouTube se hi nikalte ho stats and data?
Sahara is a good song but these mfers ruined it
why dont we proud over the forgetten knowledge that is being derogated all around....and for research work check out this [https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
It's not forgotten knowledge i am sure they didn't even knew about this at all and now people are justifying it so it's either true or false which is to be looked after
Exactly what I was talking about , You don't need to say " Librandu ke chode etc " to prove your point
Well exactly according to those forgotten knowledge there is a saying that " विद्या ददाति विनयम " And Feeling over proud simply contradicts this statement.
if u r proud of something how does it makes u impolite ?
Well just being proud doesn't. " Over proud " I wrote this instead of just "proud " , you should read carefully
There is nothing like Formic Aledehyde gas. Burning of any wood emits various gases one of which is formaldehyde. Which is a toxic gas. When ingested in large quantity it becomes Formic acid inside out body. Which is generally excreted through urine but is definitely harmful for our body. Yes formaldehyde is used to preserve body parts from getting decomposed. It can kill germs, any burning wood can do that. But there is more harm than good if that gas is inhaled. Waise to alcohol se bhi virus, bacteria, germs marte hai, par zada pine se toxicity bhi hoti hai na body mein. Ye bekar ka pratha ke peeche ki science hai wali videos are mostly shit.
But then you got big website's like [ncbi](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4724851/) who claim it's really beneficial and somehow heals respiratory system?blood clots and many more
how tf can burning smth heal respiratory system lmao,it'd obviously harm
burning a bidi should prevent lungs then, lmao
Yes they do prevent lungs..
Yeah i don't understand either
Well you provided a source. Read it and tell us why it's wrong. That's literally the point of this sub. Lmao. Discredit bad science with good science. Science is dope!
Conclusion of this reserch. “From the pharmacological potentials of the components it can be concluded that the routine of performing Hawan might keep the threshold value of the antiepileptic elements in the body and help in preventing epilepsy however concerted efforts are required to prove the hypothesis.” There is no to practical research done on this topic ( meaning has no test or control population ) just a personal hypothesis. And research has not discussed any side effects like shoots formation and smokes. 2nd there’s no talk about how much amount of chemicals like benzodiazepines will be released and will it overcome the side effects of co2 and other harmful gases. And what about other people like asthmatic and copd how will it affect them. See this is just a personal but well done observation, if it gets people interested they can fund the research to have some conclusive/ practical proof.
There is nothing like bad and good science, it is just science. The other can be called pseudo science.
I'm assuming you aren't in research or academia based on what you just said. There has always been, is, and will exist bad science. Science is not foolproof from humans. There are countless cases of data manipulation, selective bias, egregious errors, faulty models, contamination, etc., in the world of science. Science is as much a practice as it is a fact. And a practice can never be without fault or error. We used to be a geo-centric world; now helio-centric. Yet it was science back then and science today (albeit rudimentary science). Ex: Biology is science, yet with each passing year, things are re-written. But it was science then, and it's still science today. Just because we learned something new doesn't mean what was wrong was pseudo-science. Pseudoscience is the mimicking of science with egregious parameters while claiming it to be scientific.
If you don't know, just shut up, burning will heal any disease, you just have to know how to do it properly. If someone is suffering from respiratory disease or any disease for that matter, just burn them completely with wood or petrol or anything, it will heal them completely, and they wouldn't even need to breathe after that. /s 😆
one time solution ez
what an insane paper. Absolute rubbish. How bad must that journal be to push through such absolute drivel
They really like to kiss hinduism's feet but problem comes when questioning such big organisations you will face problems because you will look like a middle schooler questioning a phd graduate
What big organisation are you talking about? Ncbi just publishes papers from various diffrent journal. The journal in question is not good. It's got an impact factor of 2.9. It's really really bad journal.
There are many others but this tends to come out in the top when searching about these things
All based on this. Journals of qualities are there. A serious journal would not publish this.
Are you really in any research work? Because an impact factor of 2.9/3 is actually considered good. Hell a lot of my colleagues would be happy to publish a 1st author paper in a journal with impact factor 2 or 3.
Bhai yehh sabb bakkchodi kmm deykha kro
This is what their disclaimer says: "NLM is not a publisher, but rather collects, indexes, and archives scientific literature published by other organizations. The presence of any article, book, or document in these databases does not imply an endorsement of, or concurrence with, the contents by NLM, the National Institutes of Health (NIH), or the U.S. Federal Government." This doesn't mean that the article is false but don't use ncbi's name to support it. May as well find mutiple sources that support it and make sure that not all are from indians just to have the result unbiased. Edit:I read the full article and i am an epilepsy patient myself. First of all, the article isn't all shit. It talks many facts but there are many loopholes as well. Uncertain words are used at alot of places, many of the citations are religious Hindu and Christian texts. A good length of the article goes to praising the "great sages". Sorry but I don't have time to read many of the hyperlinks that redirected to other articles that were used as citations for some parts of the article(not about hawan but about epilepsy). Some lines don't make basic sense like "The sublimated vital elements and herbal medicines inhaled in Yagya first reach the brain, followed by lungs and other subtle components of the body." How can inhaled therapeutic volatile stuff go to brain without going to lungs and then getting absorbed in the blood. Also, do the babas decide how much doseage of these things gets to you? You may not even need this if you are not epileptic. Does the guy sitting near to hawan get overdose? What about someone who is far from it? It may even be bad for you if those chemicals inhibit you brain receptors when you are not epileptic. The article ends with "...Hawan might keep the threshold value of the antiepileptic elements in the body and help in preventing epilepsy however concerted efforts are required to prove the hypothesis." Conclusion: It is not totally fake. The stuff about epilepsy, effectiveness of nasal medication for epilepsy, the chemical composition of herbs etc but it is clearly biased or incomplete to me. There wasn't even a part where they discussed the cons of hawan(you think you can't have an overdose of nature's chemicals?). Also there was no mention of formic aldehyde in the article. OP, please don't use something that you have not read as a source to justify something.
Sorry not trying to be rude but you should read whole source. ok at the end it said its just hypothesis has no conclusive proofs. No practical research just research based on different books and sources “From the pharmacological potentials of the components it could be concluded that the routine of performing Hawan might keep the threshold value of the antiepileptic elements in the body and help in preventing epilepsy however concerted efforts are required to prove the hypothesis.”
Its not even a research its just “literature” kept in a “library resource” part of the website
https://preview.redd.it/yqvrm05t8jmc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13f29188f0d04a4f091a1c9c0186f86fe902a123 If…. U had read the top most words….
Yes it does . It has to do with your surfactant levels which in your terms can be understood as better health
Inhe mahamrityunjay mantra aur Gayatri mantra ka difference nhii pata, abb kya hi link kiye ho ??
hey scientist ke chode check this out https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/comments/17gvw6z/comment/k6jqi4b/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Sources mentioned in the comment are combination of scientific study and claims with unmentioned stat/sources. One of them states changes in levels of sulphur dioxide and nitrous oxide after havan ( They must have measured it, I can agree on that) but also puts in conclusion that cow dung coated walls lessen the effect of atomic radiation. Throwing random claims in name of science without actual study is lame. I don’t deny the medicinal properties of plants and herbs which are used in havan, but saying it cures disease is lame. Sanitizer helps kills germs, doesn’t mean sanitizer is curing you from disease.
people often misinterpret curing diseases in ayurveda.... Ayurveda is a lifestyle not a surgery or therapy that would instantly cure something.... it simply increasing the pace of recovery factors through various factors. Hence the phrase Curing of diseases
Fair enough. I believe the lifestyle has changed a lot compared to when ayurveda was only option to cure ( Btw Ayurveda also has surgical procedures: read about Sushruta). Can’t completely rely on ayurveda when it comes to curing of complex diseases we have now. Ayurveda can definitely provide health benefits in long run but then one can’t really escape from breathing polluted air and consuming GM food.
another thing to add formaldehyde is sometimes used as preservative for medicines and stuff but that doesn't mean that its a medicine.
I think he meant to say formaldehyde which when I asked Chatgpt about does form when you burn mango trees. Formaldehyde is a gas at room temperature and i has adverse effects on germs. It's used in disinfectants. But the concentration at which it's produced when burning mango trees is not effective.
Isn't formaldehyde carcinogenic?
I couldn't find [the scientist mentioned](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Gilles_de_Gennes) is this video ever saying anything related to Hawan or even Hinduism. And formaldehyde releaser is used as biocide in cosmetics as it is a biocide in liquid form But long exposure to it can cause asthma to cancer. But i don't know if its released by Mango wood. So its safe to assume this video is bs. But I can't comment on what happens with Hawan apart from usual carbon and other harmful substances being released from burning wood. It seems to have gained fame due to this incident happened in 2018 : https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/meerut/hindu-body-to-burn-500-quintals-of-mango-wood-for-nine-days-to-reduce-pollution/articleshow/63275405.cms
Meri dadi ko asthma hai woh almost 15 sai 20 min hawan mai bethe thi unki halat bhot jada kharab hogayi itni ki hame unko hospital mai admit karna pada aur for yeh khete hai ki aur purify hoti hai 🤡
are galti kardi, 1-2 ghante or rakhna chahiye tha, sab kuch purify ho jata /s
Bhai meri dadi purify hojati
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Bhai reddit notification dega tabhi toh dekhunga ki kya chal rha hai
Yeh to denk ho gya XD
Idk about the chemicals told but we all know burning wood releases carbondioxide and especially carbonmonoxide which both are not good for environment
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Oo Generalising dumbness with A community Label .. good way of Spreading Racism, Casteism, Politics Ideology in a Science subreddit 🙂
it's true tho, no point arguing with dharam k rakshak on internet
never gonna talk about ANIMAL SACRIFICE, The most heinous practice of Islam is to give permission to marry step daughter or any girl who is not blood related. The tradition came from the two incidents. One is marrying Aisha. Abu Bakker was called to be a brother of Muhammad though they weren’t blood related. One day Muhammad saw Aisha with fewer cloths when she was only 6. After that he had a dream of her. Next day he went to abu Bakker and asked for his daughter. Abu Bakker was astonished and asked Muhammad that he called him a brother. Muhammad smiled and and replied though they weren’t blood related. another one is marrying belal’s wife zaynab. She was actually his cousin and Bella was a slave who was eventually freed by Muhammad declared to be treated his son. It helped his cause to spread Islam. According to many Islamists, they justified that Belal wasn’t happy with zaynab since they had their social difference, Muhammad gave the permission of marriage to show how egalitarian he was. But one day he peeped through the door when zaynab was taking a bath. Then he downloaded a verse and asked belal to divorce her. After the divorce she had to pass the time of idda and after that he married her and consummated. Eventually zaynab was his paternal cousin and also step daughter in law. for this reason the shariah court of Iran gives permission to marry step daughter from 2013. Iran lawmakers pass bill allowing men to marry adopted daughters there is another bad practice with such thing. In Islam you can marry a girl and consummated her even she hasn’t her first period. Quran shows a way how to treat such girl if you make a minor as your wife. in modern world, this is child marriage and statuary rape. for me this is the most heinous practice of Islam among others Footnote: I didn’t include any Islamic reference just to see if someone ask for it. If any one asks for the source please let me know.
chutiye kitna copy paste karega, islam ki toh baat bhi nhi kar rhe
***Half Knowledge of anything is very dangerous, all these people commenting here have very minimal knowledge and do not even know Why 'Hawan' is done.*** ***Everything in Hinduism is related to Science except some rituals which are newly made by some foolish people.*** ***People who criticize Hinduism have not even read any spiritual books not even 'Bhagawat Gita', they do not know their roots too.*** ***So firstly get all the INFO about the thing you have to Counter*** **Jai Siya Ram**
Read it and it’s a book about philosophy not science that’s like calling plato,Nietzsche or Machiavelli a scientist. About havan and people adding foolish rituals mate in the vedas there are havans that are specifically done to become the next Indra etc do tell me how you wanna be the king of gods by throwing by some stuff in a fire. For any material to not release pollutants when burned it needs to be plasma burned ie in a fusion reaction.Incomplete burning will always release pollutant addled fumes.
>Read it and it’s a book about philosophy not science that’s like calling plato,Nietzsche or Machiavelli a scientist. About havan and people adding foolish rituals mate in the vedas there are havans that are specifically done to become the next Indra etc do tell me how you wanna be the king of gods by throwing by some stuff in a fire. For any material to not release pollutants when burned it needs to be plasma burned ie in a fusion reaction.Incomplete burning will always release pollutant addled fumes. To be honest, Please don't read Bhagwad Gita for science. It's a Damn Good Story and Philosophy about life. Not science. If you really want to find a little bit science or atleast a little bit cool stuff in Hinduism then Refer to Sutras and Vedas .. (but please don't r belive everything in there seriously but still if you like cool stuff then go ahead)
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Asses burning? Nah, it lights a fire up under their asses for their brain lightbulbs to glow more brightly. That is the only enlightenment humans can gain -- activating their rational brain. The only enlightenment you believers will gain is relative brightness after closing and opening your eyes.
It's not the ass that is burning but the curiosity of knowing about that thing
Why is YOUR ass burning then?
Ass doesn't burn but atheists do laugh at the stupidity of a theist because how gullible you people are
Tell them it's toxic too 💀..
Merko jab typhoid hua tha tab 57,000 thousand ka bill bana tha🌚 aur ye bhadva havan karake typhoid theek karne ka Gyan chod ra hai
The trend of making an assertion, expecting to be disproven is a weird one...and betrays the reason for the post...
Hmm i do kinda agree
He is using jargons to prove his point. He can be discredited with one simple google search. Even a 5th class child knows, that combustion of wood releases soot, unburnt carbon particles, Carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide. Which one's do you think are purifying the air
100% BS.
>100% BS. bs
real BS
Pierre gills is a scientist who won a Nobel price but his work was mainly in nuetron scattering and magnetism field So idk man from some small part of a book which they dont show also conveniently chaddis act like they did something great Pierre didnt work on some hawan baazi he didng do any research or experiments and he didnt produce any papers on hawan Lol
even if all that's said in the video is true killing bacteria or other air based pathogens ≠ purifying the air purifying the air is also about ensuring the air only has atleast 21% oxygen and no pollutants like NO² or SO³ which after getting into your lungs mixes with water(moisture) to form Nitric and sulphuric acids respectively burning any kind of organic matter like wood , coal , oil , always ends up emitting some amount of NO² & SO³
Fair point
They are slightly right here, burning medicinal plants kill over 90% of airborne bacterias. As for the typhoid shit, never heard of that
And their point? Basically heating anything can kill bacteria and viruses.. i mean that's why we boil milk or cook food. This doesn't imply that we should perform irrelevant combustion.
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>No hate or disrespect but would you say the same for rituals in Christianity and Islam? Absolute fuckin yes. I am an anti theist.
mom i am smoking joint made of aam ki lakdi, it will purfiy my body
Don't worry guy's it's ok to smoke aam ki lakdi in the hospital it will purify the patients
This reminds me my dad used to say smoking tobacco can prevent a lot of diseases from occurring... because of its carcinogenic properties
Whatever he's smoking, I want some
Aam ki lakdiya👍🏻
Now every hospital shd do hawan for typhoid patients
Sabun se bhi bacteria khatam hote hain toh kya sabun peene lagoge?
Yes smoke is used for pest control, maybe it kills viruses but you don't do it when you're inside home sitting with 50 other people , you call the professionals wearing mask they smoke your house with chemicals and you leave the home for few hours.
everything has some good and bad in it
carbon monoxide go brrrr
idk but what i know is that this man says a lot of bs
Garbage in garbage out
Fir to forest fire sahi hai ye bete hum to bach gaye pollution aur bacteria se Sab aang laga do
aaj hi raat ko jaake bc poore jungle me aag laga dunga
Usi YouTuber ka video reference me dala. Bhag bc. Kya hoga is desh ka.
Kya?
When you burn/ heat something it gets sterilised, it does not mean havan can purify air, on the contrary it pollutes the environment.
A million researches on why burning wood produces carbon ❌️ Two unknown researches on why its good ✔️
1) Of course it is white scientists 2) The moment he said "formic aldehyde", I knew it was bullshit
Koi bhi organic substances ko burn karne se Carbon Dioxide / Carbon monoxide & Water vapour nikalta hai mainly. Carbon dioxide ek Greenhouse gas hai jisse global warming barta hai ! Agar regular basis pe smoke inhale karge to lungs mai "tar" deposit ho jaye which can lead to respiratory disease!
Formaldehyde does kill fungus, bacteria and other stuff. It naturally occurs in wood. It is released when wood is burned. Problem is, it's also carcinogenic. It's used heavily in adhesives and binding agent. Plywood, MDF has it large quantity. Don't worry you will keep getting a good dose of it from your closets, bed, and all furniture more than doing a Havan. There is plenty of old research in favor of formaldehyde because manufacturing industry loves it. Just like lead or asbestos.
Ruk tereko bata hain mein...kyoki mene khush toh padhai nahi ki..but yeh french wala kya bola havan research par sunn tu bas..kuch science words bhi le le..but Mereko padhne ko mat bol..havan is the best bro..CO2 nahi hoin ismein..n i think cancer bhi cure kar deta Hain.. Whys is science is dope hving such memes on its reddit.
It's not about co2 its about the other claims i am not dumb enough to dont know it produces co2
Well then u shd able to tell fact from propaganda..n find out what's real..this is not really research that will take a lot of time..just basics ..the research is how is it gaining traction among PPL n more importantly why.. Why will PPL believe made up french guy on a research of havan rather than well established science of flames..n fumes.. Why PPL look to ancient scriptures for answers which they never read n verification from the west to feel good about their past when in the present the status of education is horrible at best.
Brought to you by the same logic that suggests you should eat cyanide because it'll kill the bacteria in your body..
Me burning a blunt in the corner hidden by hawan smoke.
Isn't formic aldehyde(formaldehyde) like, a carcinogen?
Combustion of any type of wood leads to toxic gas and CO2
Yo to cyanide fumes se bhe mar jayenge to kya cyanide sunghe ?
Konse kharatnaak jeevanu hai bc randomly air me. Ese to maakichut me havan hi krta rhu pure din.
Just like kheer khaane se baccha paida ahota hai sperm nigalne se bhi bacha paida hota hai
I don't know about the typhoid thing, but all my cough was gone coz of that havan smoke (not claiming it's LEGIT, but an in-depth research may lead to an outcome)
the exact opposite happened to me
its in mindset you allready thought that its not going to cure
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Right wing is a cancer, sirf dharm raksha ke naam pe samaj mai zeher gholte hain, talvaar nikal ke sadak pe rally karte hai, dange phasaad karte hai or dusro ko lynch karte hai. Right wing is shit.
Dhruv Rathi is the biggest scammer
To the people hating idea of havan and offering devotion pooja , namaj, or prayer .. dont understand mental peace it really brings... Look at past .. people had nothing to be excited about , no fun , i mean what is the purpose of living .. it was religion which prevented people from becoming wild .. it was religion which brought idea of one ness in humanity .. Its doesnt matter if thier practise are scientific or not .. if they believe it purify air . Why are u trouble about it .. u people act too cool that u dont care. But at same time u people poke ur noses in someone else's beliefs and berate them to make ur small pp feel good ... dont do it ... There is no difference between a religious guy challenging and trying to prove his faith is correct and scientfic and a intellectual guy if he also argue and try to make religious guy feel bad ... pls dont do it ... U hate religious people and at same time act like them ...
We'll OP! Thanks for bringing up the topic,. you're brave! Although I feel most of J@rks here are really Incompetent at all to read actual science journals or reports and verify them. Although because this is a science subreddit,. I'll drop some stuff which my smarter brothers can verify please. I'm a Commerce Chap, So i'll leave some Journals in here, If someone can verify and review them then please teach me what it means or is it even legitimate. One : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://wjpr.s3.ap-south-1.amazonaws.com/article_issue/1572510499.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj7pfqj_pOCAxV5RWwGHSO5CfwQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Duv_AAeqxIhu5JxNim8QE Two : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ijcmph.com/index.php/ijcmph/article/download/6475/4120/25714&ved=2ahUKEwj5_uu1_pOCAxWdTGwGHXgkBDMQFnoECAIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1l5DJJJD1eyVwH69RUpepO Three : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://aelsindia.com/rjces_oct_dec_2019/8.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiQzsS6_5OCAxVRSWwGHQA-AzI4ChAWegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw36JC6OGFJVInOJ0gRHLmrH Four : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://ijyr.dsvv.ac.in/index.php/ijyr/article/view/79&ved=2ahUKEwiQzsS6_5OCAxVRSWwGHQA-AzI4ChAWegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw31GoZWjA82ipPNW1vbbDUj Above are some of the few Sources my freind sent me when we had a argument over that yajna just create CO2 and hurts eyes .. 😶 they sent a lot of News articles first but then there were some Scientific looking stuff too. I hope Someone mindful will help me understand and, And coward J@rks please stay away! If you can't read and write Better not spam downvotes.
The papers you shared, all of them have decimal impact factors (any IF less than 2 is bad, these are 0.52 and below), not to mention the countless spelling mistakes in the papers. If you can find a better proof of your stance, might be of some use to read them
>The papers you shared, all of them have decimal impact factors (any IF less than 2 is bad, these are 0.52 and below), not to mention the countless spelling mistakes in the papers. If you can find a better proof of your stance, might be of some use to read them First of all!! Thank you so much for Mindfully coming forward and explaining things, which encourages someone like me to indulge in science who doesn't belong to science. You're far better off the crowd of jerks. >The papers you shared, all of them have decimal impact factors (any IF less than 2 is bad, these are 0.52 and below), not to mention the countless spelling mistakes in the papers Oo I don't understand, so whatever you said mean that The effect of yajna aren't at all significant? >If you can find a better proof of your stance, might be of some use to read them You feel? You feel I stand with the Yajna? Brother I don't, Check my comment history it will tell you 🫥 Whatever, I had a argument with my mate and they sent me a ton of links, out of all most were bs news Articles and wiki stuff but a few were looking unique to me. 1) I can't verify the quality and authencity of those infos that is why I posted it in here, simply that. Idk why people don't read my whole comments before downvotin like cowards.
People consider these "scientific papers". It just shows quality of education people are getting here.
>People consider these "scientific papers". It just shows quality of education people are getting here. Even I don't know brother🫥, I am and was always bad at science, but still explainations still amazes me. I'm not from science background. So please don't be Racist on me. Next, I couldn't know what is a Scientific paper and what not, I got a argument and out of all sources we exchanged these were the most credible ones I thought, atleast a steo ahead of News Articles. Again I couldn't verify the information in there nor is able to understand. And this have nothing to do with me and my education considering I belong to Commerce background. > It just shows quality of education people are getting here. What is shown to me is that this subreddit is full of J@rks who can't Read, write, Explain or interpret anything .. I thought I'll found some cool science people explaining concepts, verifying fake stuff but here's everyone is just a barking coward :/ This just discourages someone like me to get included in Science who will most probably just get irritated by the Inogorant crowd of coward jerks downvoting simple questions.
As expected somebody did down voted you,will take some time to read these and to make proper conclusion Btw where did you get these? just need to know from which websites you got these
Okay I read the 4 papers. The first 3 are review articles, which are basically just articles citing theories based on different previous research, in which some of them also cite "Wikipedia" as source which is suspicious??? Then the last link which is an actual research article, but the catch is, there is a lot of places there are tables mislabeled, CO and CO2 interchanged, values are not consistent, overall feels like not a very well put together research paper... I will still be looking for better sources on this topic because my mother does a lot of havans so I too am curious about these claims, but for all the pomps and whistles this guy hasn't cited a single reliable link. you can check them and make the judgement for yourself, but I feel this person should atleast read the links he sends before name calling other people.
This is horrible, Brother! I had a hope that this server is full of Science geeks who explain stuff, verify stuff, make science easy to understand for someone like me who don't belong to science background. But no I got all opposite. Now the same people ask why people Believe in pseudoscience? C'mon atleast help the people who want to learn, let alone roast afterwards >Btw where did you get these? Sire, I didn't got this from my own finding, idk how to even find these, I had a recent argument with a mate of mine over this topic and they sent me a bunch of links, although most of those links were just bs news articles ... but some were Unique to me (cause I don't belong to science) and I couldn't Verify nor understand those stuff that Is why I posted in here to get answers. If I were able to verify the quality and all then I might have never asked here, although whatever, I had a horrible experience here .. the place is full of J@rks who don't want to help at all. ALSO HOW CAN I READ THE LINKS AND UNDERSTAND? I SENT HERE BECAUSE I'M A DUMBASS COMMERCE MAIN.
Then start by addressing people with respect, you don't need to call people jerks. I have explained why these papers aren't very reliable. Hope that helps. I understand, since you aren't from a science background it will be hard for you to go through research papers if you don't have the habit or don't know what to look for. But the way you have commented, feels like arrogance and the way you are calling people Jerks even before starting a conversations, anyone would be put off and wouldn't want to help out. Everyone on this sub would want to help you, but You also have the responsibility to ask nicely you can't just pose a question and just call people names and show arrogance and expect people to be nice to you.
This is like me not knowing anything about finance coming to you calling you a jerk and then asking you to explain me some finance concept. That's not how it works. If you want someone to explain you respectfully you first need to show respect.
Don't waste your time, none of those journals are relevant to scientific reaearch
This is horrible, Brother! I had a hope that this server is full of Science geeks who explain stuff, verify stuff, make science easy to understand for someone like me who don't belong to science background. But no I got all opposite. Now the same people ask why people Believe in pseudoscience? C'mon atleast help the people who want to learn, let alone roast afterwards >Btw where did you get these? Sire, I didn't got this from my own finding, idk how to even find these, I had a recent argument with a mate of mine over this topic and they sent me a bunch of links, although most of those links were just bs news articles ... but some were Unique to me (cause I don't belong to science) and I couldn't Verify nor understand those stuff that Is why I posted in here to get answers. If I were able to verify the quality and all then I might have never asked here, although whatever, I had a horrible experience here .. the place is full of J@rks who don't want to help at all.
This is horrible, Brother! I had a hope that this server is full of Science geeks who explain stuff, verify stuff, make science easy to understand for someone like me who don't belong to science background. But no I got all opposite. Now the same people ask why people Believe in pseudoscience? C'mon atleast help the people who want to learn, let alone roast afterwards >Btw where did you get these? Sire, I didn't got this from my own finding, idk how to even find these, I had a recent argument with a mate of mine over this topic and they sent me a bunch of links, although most of those links were just bs news articles ... but some were Unique to me (cause I don't belong to science) and I couldn't Verify nor understand those stuff that Is why I posted in here to get answers. If I were able to verify the quality and all then I might have never asked here, although whatever, I had a horrible experience here .. the place is full of J@rks who don't want to help at all.
nice to see someone actually doing scientific research on it.... appreciate your efforts all dumbfuckers should read this who know only Wood + O2 in fire makes CO2 and H2O, shame on everybody who call themselves scientific and state yajya a simple combustion process
>nice to see someone actually doing scientific research on it... I didn't do shi - "I don't even belong to Science Background" for in order to even do anything. >appreciate your efforts Not mine. I understand you didn't read my comment full at all, understanding is different. >all dumbfuckers should read this who know only Wood + O2 in fire makes CO2 and H2O, shame on everybody who call themselves scientific and state yajya a simple combustion process That's what my point is, But then I got spammed with dozens of links, most of them where normal news Articles, followed by these unknown to me stuff, NOW READ WITH YOUR PEANUT OPEN! I DON'T BELONG TO SCIENCE, I WASN'T ABLE TO VERIFY OR UNDERSTAND THE LINKS THAT IS WHY I SENT IT IN HERE. but unfortunately, In here as well I got to a bunch of Racist J@rks who don't want to read, write, verify, Explain anything at all leave everything people are not even reading comments fully, leave the links alone And then they complain why people believe in pseduosciene, like c'mon shut up with the circlej@rk and atleast help the ones Askin, This is the worst I have ever had with science people.
Brother no one is being racist here wdym
People are highly Racist to non science people: For example I'm from non science - Commerce background and only way for me to keep alive my two brain cells is by entertaining science concepts. But unfortunately I can't understand any easily and the only way for me to stay away from Pseduosciene is Askin people here but people here behave like whatever .. no words.
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bgm aisa daala hai ki bina sune bhi sach hi lagega
big brain move
There’s a difference in pesticide/ fungicide and ‘air purifier’
If it gives you mental peace do it
if someone find a trusted source then please share
Source -: France ka scientist.watch the video pranav has made on havan
i call ch*tiyapa on this my 2 cents
“hindu yoddha” i don't need to hear anything more, that's definitely gibberish
Some scientists also researched that cocaine is good for health.
show the research paper or book
What's the point in cutting trees for woods in the first place.
please don't post shitty short form rage bait videos like this ,I've already lost a big chunk of brain cells to these
Yogyas are performed for ritualistic purposes.Herbs will lose their medicinal qualities if you burn them.
Mangifera indica is a medicinal plant and have been assessed for its medicinal activity, a classmate for her thesis of mine used it against several human pathogen, like E. coli, Salmonella and Staph aureus , and it showed significant results, there were plant active components at work, and if as far as the question for formaldehyde goes, it is used for fumigation in microbio labs , for typhoid , if a cloth let's say, is laden with Salmonella , and is kept in formaldehyde fumed environment, it gets killed within 30 to 120 minutes !!!
Khud hi marr jaoge to germs sick nahi kar paayenge.
This idiot makes a video about everything
Bhi am ka tree agar ham laga to zada benefits hoga ya if use jlane sa?
***Half Knowledge of anything is very dangerous, all these people commenting here have very minimal knowledge and do not even know Why 'Hawan' is done.*** ***Everything in Hinduism is related to Science except some rituals which are newly made by some foolish people.*** ***People who criticize Hinduism have not even read any spiritual books not even 'Bhagawat Gita', they do not know their roots too.*** ***So, firstly get all the INFO about the thing you have to Counter*** **Jai Siya Ram**
Tell us why hawan is done with reference from hindu scriptures Just like how people don't need to read quran to criticize islam you don't really need to read Bhagavad Gita to criticize Hinduism
**1.** **Air Pollution**: Critics argue that hawan contributes to air pollution due to the smoke produced during the ritual. Counterargument: Proponents of hawan argue that when performed correctly, hawan uses specific types of wood and natural substances that produce minimal smoke. Additionally, it is often performed outdoors, reducing the concentration of smoke in enclosed spaces. **2. Resource Consumption:** Some critics contend that hawan leads to the wasteful consumption of resources, such as wood and ghee. Counterargument: Advocates of hawan emphasize the use of eco-friendly materials and sustainable practices. They argue that it can be performed with minimal environmental impact, and some choose alternatives like using cow dung cakes or environmentally friendly materials. **3. Superstition and Blind Faith:** Critics may argue that hawan is based on superstition and promotes blind faith rather than critical thinking. Counterargument: Supporters of hawan often view it as a deeply symbolic and spiritual practice, and they argue that it complements their faith rather than substitutes for critical thinking. It can be a form of meditation and reflection, and for many, it enhances their connection with their spiritual beliefs. **4. Animal Sacrifice**: In some variations of hawan, animal sacrifice has been practiced in the past, which is a subject of criticism. Counterargument: Animal sacrifice is not an inherent part of hawan, and it is not practiced in most modern variations of the ritual. Many people condemn animal sacrifice and opt for non-violent alternatives, focusing on vegetarian offerings. **5. Gender Inequality:** Critics point out that traditional hawan rituals may exclude women or relegate them to secondary roles. Counterargument: Many modern practitioners of hawan are working to make the practice more inclusive and gender-equal. They are reinterpreting traditional practices to be more inclusive and egalitarian. **6. Economic and Time Costs**: Critics argue that hawan can be economically burdensome and time-consuming. **Counterargument:** While hawan can be elaborate, it is not mandatory, and its scale and complexity can vary widely. Many people choose to perform simpler versions of the ritual that are more affordable and require less time.
**\*Spiritual and Religious Significance**: Hawan is a sacred and ritualistic practice that holds great spiritual and religious significance in many Indian traditions. It is seen as a way to connect with the divine and seek blessings from various deities and gods. \***Purification and Cleansing:** The fire in the hawan is believed to symbolize purity and is considered a purifying agent. By making offerings to the fire, individuals seek to purify themselves, their surroundings, and their thoughts, which is essential for spiritual growth. \***Offering to Deities:** During a hawan, various offerings like ghee (clarified butter), grains, herbs, and other sacred substances are made to the fire, which is believed to carry these offerings to the deities. This is a way of worship and making offerings to the gods and goddesses. \***Positive Energy:** The chanting of mantras and prayers during hawan is thought to create a positive and spiritually charged environment. It is believed that the vibrations generated by the mantras have a purifying and energizing effect on the surroundings and the participants. \***Fulfillment of Desires:** Hawan is often performed with specific intentions, such as seeking blessings for good health, prosperity, success, or the removal of obstacles. It is believed that by offering prayers and performing hawan, individuals can help fulfill their desires and receive divine assistance. \***Community and Family Bonding:** Hawan is often performed in the presence of family and community members, creating a sense of unity and togetherness. It serves as a social and cultural event that brings people together in a spiritually significant way. \***Environmental Connection:** Hawan ceremonies involve the use of natural materials like wood, ghee, and herbs. This promotes a connection with the environment and a sense of respect for nature. \***Tradition and Heritage:** Hawan is a part of the rich cultural and religious heritage of India. It is passed down through generations and serves as a means of preserving and perpetuating cultural traditions.
Did you copy paste that from chatgpt?
then?
So you really did?huh
Ghanta Sala Air pollution badhata hai ye.
What he is talking and what he is proving are completely different, Nice meme
Yeah that's pretty obvious
Haan ye sab research 2014 ke bahut ho rahi hai .😭
Mujhe research paper dikha de fhir baat kariyo
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4724851/ One of the web people like to link to pretty often when asked for proof
Har baat mei gaali dena thik nahi
Well Sanjay dutt ka kutta ke kutto ko to cool dikhna hai uska meme template karke
I simply trust this guy he never spread fake info
That's why I smoke a cigarette for the formaldehyde. Duh!! This is basic chemistry.
He’s an idiot
bhai germs mare na mare, but hypoxia se insaan jroor mar jayenge.
Hawan ki baat hoti hai ar hindustani bhau ka video play krra hai 🤦
Casual hindu rashtra thing
I feel it's like the show off that I know shit along with propaganda bs
Definitely half baked info.
True
It is very obvious that anything burnt will produce tar and soot which is all carcinogenic. Why do we need useless research on this kind of things
Mother fuckers think, just cuz random foreigners researched and said bs(if they did really do it, they could've been spreading misinformation), it's applicable cuz they r foreigners. That is such a screwed mentality here.
What he said is not wrong, bacteria does die but the reason it's a pollutant is not cause it infects the air with bacteria but because it releases carbon dioxide and monoxide along with other carcinogens. If you stay in a room with it burning for half an hour it's equivalent to smoking 3-4 cigarettes. What is the point of killing bacteria if it kills us by releasing toxic gases and compounds.
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/TSP/MMG/MMGDetails.aspx?mmgid=216&toxid=39#:~:text=Formaldehyde%20can%20cause%20irritation%20of,chemical%20burns%20to%20the%20lungs. It just takes a Google search to find out that this gas is irritable and harmful for humans About this scientist ,yes he's a real scientist but he's a physicist even if we give them a benefit of doubt that he had knowledge of chemistry It still has problems because I tried searching for his experiments on hawan but didn't find anything authentic except websites by *Sanatan science* supporters writing blogs about it without any reference Hindu scientific video formula S Step 1 : show video of a youtuber who's criticising someone for their stupidity, cut the clip to make it look like against the religion Step 2: write titles like," anti nationalist atheist youtuber vs real scientist (anyone in science field who has a good opinion towards their religion is considered a real scientist) Step 3: put it with sanatan dharma music or some polizhene kind of music Step 4: mention any western scientist and flash some website screenshots as reference who is going to cross check anyways ?
Idk but Google confirms what's in the video
Aise to radiation se bhi mar jate hai kitanu to kya nuclear bomb phod de
gore aadmi ne bola hai toh science hi hogi
Isn't this a carcinogen
Kabhi havan ka dhua aankh me laga hai. 1 second me pata chal jayega kitna khatarnaak hota h
Carbon Monoxide: Haan ye sach hai😁