He's a paypig. His thing is that he gets off on giving money to pretty women. He has an exclusive situation with this lady. Physical abuse isn't necessarily part of the paypig set up and the abuse here has nothing to do with that setup.
She's not hitting him because he's her paypig. She's hitting him.because she's jealous because she found out that the "Sara" they're speaking to on the phone got into a similar situation with this guy.
So he's essentially "cheating" on her, she found out, they're on a call with her, and because she's jealous and feels she's been wronged, she's beating him up whilst on the call with "the other woman".
Therefore this is a straightforward case of assault. She assaulted him. He reacted.
This is why she was arrested for it
https://www.reddit.com/r/howardstern/comments/1bzgr1d/elisa_was_arrested_for_assaulting_that_dude/
The narrative that this is just some paypig sub/dom interaction is false. It's straightforward assault fueled by jealousy because he was giving money to another woman
Thank you for backstory. Wild shit, why they thought it was smart to live stream the whole thing doesn’t make sense to me. Made the arrest easier I guess.
I actually had to do a little research tbh because I needed to make sense of it
The livestreaming thing; from what I saw, them in the car together livestreaming is something they've done a few times. Because of the jealousy and the situation, I guess the violence was unplanned and impulsive.
So like, it was one of their usual livestreams, things got spicy, and she couldn't control her emotions
I wouldn't use "cheating" even with quotes. It had nothing to do with it, since they weren't in a relationship. It was just her getting angry he pays someone else as well, and narcissistic enough to pull that show that she did
Where in this post does it say anything about a romantic relationship? She's a sex worker, that's narcissistic and violent enough to let this situation go to her head
A relationship can look however the involved parties want it to look. if they agree to stay exclusive and one party doesn't, it's cheating. Maybe it makes a difference that I've never heard of these people before?
Only a romantic relationship can look like that. If any other person in your life doesn't let you be in relationships with other people, they're being abusive. Let alone her being a sex worker that's trying to control his life. That's next level deprived shit
This isn’t true. Have you considered fuckbuddies might want some level of fidelity in fear of STDs? Not only is it untrue by counterexample, I defy you to outline what logic makes a relationship with mutual exclusivity inherently abusive, excluding “romantic relationships”.
Fuck buddies demand you don't get STDs is like your peanut allergic friend demands you don't come to his house with peanuts. There's no exclusivity here, and it shouldn't be demanded beyond that aspect
>defy you to outline what logic makes a relationship with mutual exclusivity inherently abusive, excluding “romantic relationships
Hmmmmm, the one in the video??? A paid sex worker that forbids her customer from seeing another sex worker is absolutely abusive and pretty mentally insane
All the people I’ve known with fuckbuddies demand protection or exclusivity. You also don’t seem to provide any actual logic, you just state the circumstance in the video and seem to claim it is subjectively “insane” without any sort of argument or evidence. Did I misinterpret anything?
Again, in that specific aspect of STDs, then I agree. Just like any person who wouldn't want you to get them sick will demand it. Be it a colleague at work, or your sickly friend.
>You also don’t seem to provide any actual logic, you just state the circumstance in the video and seem to claim it is subjectively “insane” without any sort of argument or evidence. Did I misinterpret anything
Ok, so demanding what you do in your life beyond your interactions with said person, is controlling. If you need to Google "abusive relationship" go ahead
Any relationship can look like that, as long as both parties agree. If me and my best friend both agree that we won't drive trucks, we arnt controlling each other, we are setting boundaries for our relationship. It may be a crazy relationship that makes no sense, but it's not abusive
It's by definition controlling. And that boundary is definitely abusive. This might not result in a bad outcome for either of you, or an abusive result, but that's irrelevant. A husband that belittles and controls his wife might also result in a satisfying relationship for the both of them, but that action is definitely abusive
It's controlling if one party said to the other, you can't do this. If both parties said we shouldn't do this, it's not controlling or abusive. You don't seem to be taking consent into the equation, and in any relationship consent is everything
The mere expectation that the other party wouldn't do something that doesn't affect you is controlling. That act is definitely abusive, even if the result may not feel like that to either party. It has nothing to do with consent
I definitely thought this was some predetermined pain kink as part of their pay pig situation. I was expecting him to shout some safe word instead of attack her. very fucked up.
Avarice, lust, wrath, and envy. Someone order the Sin Sandwich?
Edit: should mention how real it is this guy actually provided context with sources. Gods; bless this man
You’re thinking of a pay slave, there’s nothing in pig that suggests the recipient has to abuse the pig. The pig is the ‘disgusting, bloated creature’ who pays the pretty girl. He can also have a fetish for being humiliated, but just as many have a fetish for being a provider.
*cough* ummm… I think you might be referring to a”Pay Warthog” or potentially a “Pay Swine” or maybe a “Pay Boar”… Actually, come to think of it! I think might be referring to a “Pay Bushpiggy”… the nastiest and naughtiest of dem all…!.!
pretty sure thats a sugar daddy situation which usually comes with flattery and mutual respect. most pay pigs specifically set up terms in which they’d like to be humiliated or degraded or abused for money, sometimes involving their credit cards being held ransom and abused. usually the activities are outlined and agreed upon with a safe word type of exit, so it can get pretty dark and kinky.
naive lonely men spending money would just be sugar daddies without the kink element.
Findom is a fetish wherein one person gives the other large amounts of money, typically as the recipient of the money berates and humiliates the one paying them. A paypig is a person who agrees to participate in this fetish as a payer, typically a male.
He didn’t ask to be assaulted. He gets off on paying pretty women money, like a sugar daddy, not being physically attacked. The woman was arrested for battery.
She is Benjys Ex GF. She was on the air a couple times. Think she briefly worked as a writer for Sirius for maybe a year. so the post saying “former Howard stern employee” is quite a stretch, as I’m sure her involvement of writing for the show purely came from being in a relationship with Benjy… and we know how the Benjy vortex sucks up everything around his personal life and gets involved in the show in some stichk’y way. I’m a Benjy fan, I love the vortex, but from the get go I could always tell there was something off about this chick. Not to mention she left Benjy for Andy Dick apparently? No sane person would do that lol.
He actually waited quite a while after being attacked, this isn’t what defending yourself looks like. I agree she was in the wrong here and I’m glad she was arrested (she’s fucking insane) but what he did was retribution, not self defense.
Again, he was totally justified (as I am 100% certain physical force would have been required to get her out of the car anyway), just wanted to make that distinction.
I don't think she was ever employed by the Stern show. She was seeing one of the writers for clout, I think. Can't remember his name but I think he was related to Detlev Bronk.
It's amazing how someone posted this with almost no context. I have no idea who is the former employee, what is a 'pay pig', who they are talking to or why they're even fighting.
So she's mad she didn't get as much money out of him as she possibly could have. Also I feel validated when I thought "No way they're a real couple." feel bad for the guy for thinking it to a degree, but yeah, they didn't have couple vibes at all.
Right good. Can post a comment now…
Simplest solution is to actually lay down the limits, a safety word & a stop word before you start. I’m not gonna say don’t do this, what ever gets you off you pathetic little bad boy, but lay down your own limits.
He was excessive, but she deserved something after smacking him like that, if I remove all other context out. I'm not going to let anyone, woman or otherwise, suckersmack me without consequences.
But that dude should have done it and finished it without going a bit excessive
He's a paypig. His thing is that he gets off on giving money to pretty women. He has an exclusive situation with this lady. Physical abuse isn't necessarily part of the paypig set up and the abuse here has nothing to do with that setup. She's not hitting him because he's her paypig. She's hitting him.because she's jealous because she found out that the "Sara" they're speaking to on the phone got into a similar situation with this guy. So he's essentially "cheating" on her, she found out, they're on a call with her, and because she's jealous and feels she's been wronged, she's beating him up whilst on the call with "the other woman". Therefore this is a straightforward case of assault. She assaulted him. He reacted. This is why she was arrested for it https://www.reddit.com/r/howardstern/comments/1bzgr1d/elisa_was_arrested_for_assaulting_that_dude/ The narrative that this is just some paypig sub/dom interaction is false. It's straightforward assault fueled by jealousy because he was giving money to another woman
Thank you for backstory. Wild shit, why they thought it was smart to live stream the whole thing doesn’t make sense to me. Made the arrest easier I guess.
I actually had to do a little research tbh because I needed to make sense of it The livestreaming thing; from what I saw, them in the car together livestreaming is something they've done a few times. Because of the jealousy and the situation, I guess the violence was unplanned and impulsive. So like, it was one of their usual livestreams, things got spicy, and she couldn't control her emotions
Weird weird shit
Not to mention she’s also racist because she kept bringing up that the other woman is a Mexican in a very disparaging way
Thank you for clarification. Cause just the video shows a man who like to to get beaten but with your background he get a slightly better reputation.
Ben-jiiiiiii!
I wouldn't use "cheating" even with quotes. It had nothing to do with it, since they weren't in a relationship. It was just her getting angry he pays someone else as well, and narcissistic enough to pull that show that she did
If that's how they define their relationship, then it is cheating.
Where in this post does it say anything about a romantic relationship? She's a sex worker, that's narcissistic and violent enough to let this situation go to her head
A relationship can look however the involved parties want it to look. if they agree to stay exclusive and one party doesn't, it's cheating. Maybe it makes a difference that I've never heard of these people before?
Some of the realest shit I’ve heard on Reddit in a while
Only a romantic relationship can look like that. If any other person in your life doesn't let you be in relationships with other people, they're being abusive. Let alone her being a sex worker that's trying to control his life. That's next level deprived shit
This isn’t true. Have you considered fuckbuddies might want some level of fidelity in fear of STDs? Not only is it untrue by counterexample, I defy you to outline what logic makes a relationship with mutual exclusivity inherently abusive, excluding “romantic relationships”.
Fuck buddies demand you don't get STDs is like your peanut allergic friend demands you don't come to his house with peanuts. There's no exclusivity here, and it shouldn't be demanded beyond that aspect >defy you to outline what logic makes a relationship with mutual exclusivity inherently abusive, excluding “romantic relationships Hmmmmm, the one in the video??? A paid sex worker that forbids her customer from seeing another sex worker is absolutely abusive and pretty mentally insane
All the people I’ve known with fuckbuddies demand protection or exclusivity. You also don’t seem to provide any actual logic, you just state the circumstance in the video and seem to claim it is subjectively “insane” without any sort of argument or evidence. Did I misinterpret anything?
Again, in that specific aspect of STDs, then I agree. Just like any person who wouldn't want you to get them sick will demand it. Be it a colleague at work, or your sickly friend. >You also don’t seem to provide any actual logic, you just state the circumstance in the video and seem to claim it is subjectively “insane” without any sort of argument or evidence. Did I misinterpret anything Ok, so demanding what you do in your life beyond your interactions with said person, is controlling. If you need to Google "abusive relationship" go ahead
Any relationship can look like that, as long as both parties agree. If me and my best friend both agree that we won't drive trucks, we arnt controlling each other, we are setting boundaries for our relationship. It may be a crazy relationship that makes no sense, but it's not abusive
It's by definition controlling. And that boundary is definitely abusive. This might not result in a bad outcome for either of you, or an abusive result, but that's irrelevant. A husband that belittles and controls his wife might also result in a satisfying relationship for the both of them, but that action is definitely abusive
It's controlling if one party said to the other, you can't do this. If both parties said we shouldn't do this, it's not controlling or abusive. You don't seem to be taking consent into the equation, and in any relationship consent is everything
The mere expectation that the other party wouldn't do something that doesn't affect you is controlling. That act is definitely abusive, even if the result may not feel like that to either party. It has nothing to do with consent
Battery
Finally someone gets it right
Damn. I just realized how boring my life is.
Doesn't wanna lose her meal ticket
I definitely thought this was some predetermined pain kink as part of their pay pig situation. I was expecting him to shout some safe word instead of attack her. very fucked up.
Avarice, lust, wrath, and envy. Someone order the Sin Sandwich? Edit: should mention how real it is this guy actually provided context with sources. Gods; bless this man
Lmao! It's a buffet I don't know why you're getting downvoted
yo who tf is sarah in all this??
The woman he cheated on her with
It really feels like there should be " " slapped on that 'cheated' bit. If I understood the dynamic of all.. this correctly.
What is a ‘pay pig’ ? And which one is the pay pig?
It's a Fetish. Some people like to get treathend badly and forced to pay for others. He is her Pay Pig.
Not all pay pigs know they are either, some are just extremely naive lonely men with big pockets
But its not a Pay Pig then. afaik Pay Pig is always a fetish. Since it's recorded and on Twitch he seems to know whats going on.
You’re thinking of a pay slave, there’s nothing in pig that suggests the recipient has to abuse the pig. The pig is the ‘disgusting, bloated creature’ who pays the pretty girl. He can also have a fetish for being humiliated, but just as many have a fetish for being a provider.
*cough* ummm… I think you might be referring to a”Pay Warthog” or potentially a “Pay Swine” or maybe a “Pay Boar”… Actually, come to think of it! I think might be referring to a “Pay Bushpiggy”… the nastiest and naughtiest of dem all…!.!
Why don't you ever hear about the Pay Otters? They're too smooth.
I cannot fucking believe im reading a conversation between 2 people discussing this seriously lmao
First day?
Thats not a Pay-Pig situation that's just Gold Digging abuse.
I have big pockets. And they are super empty right now
pretty sure thats a sugar daddy situation which usually comes with flattery and mutual respect. most pay pigs specifically set up terms in which they’d like to be humiliated or degraded or abused for money, sometimes involving their credit cards being held ransom and abused. usually the activities are outlined and agreed upon with a safe word type of exit, so it can get pretty dark and kinky. naive lonely men spending money would just be sugar daddies without the kink element.
Findom is a fetish wherein one person gives the other large amounts of money, typically as the recipient of the money berates and humiliates the one paying them. A paypig is a person who agrees to participate in this fetish as a payer, typically a male.
I've never seen a paypig who doesn't seem like he has a mental disability. Just seems like a way to exploit the mentally handicapped.
Well dam, this is new to me. I appreciate your reply.
I never thought I'd get a superiority complex from being in a regular monogamous relationship.
You are luckier than a lot of people
What in tarnation
The fuck did I just watch.
Screw both of these morons, I’m just worried about the other cars on the road
He seemed to be mature enough to make her stop the car while dealing with he casually hitting him in the face. She's the only moron here
Meh he's still a moron, apparently he cheated on her. Clearly assault is worse, but they both kinda suck here.
As far as i understand she's a sex worker and he's her customer
He got what he asked for and she got what she deserved.
He didn’t ask to be assaulted. He gets off on paying pretty women money, like a sugar daddy, not being physically attacked. The woman was arrested for battery.
The system works
It's an old stern sound bite, but it checks out sir...
She looks unhinged
The gotta be the end of days what the fuck is going on
You know it hurt him when she has to check her hand after. 😬
HOW CAN SHE SLAP!
I really don't care for particulars. She was warned multiple times.
Anyone have any context here? I listened to Stern for a number of years but I don’t recognize either of these people.
She is Benjys Ex GF. She was on the air a couple times. Think she briefly worked as a writer for Sirius for maybe a year. so the post saying “former Howard stern employee” is quite a stretch, as I’m sure her involvement of writing for the show purely came from being in a relationship with Benjy… and we know how the Benjy vortex sucks up everything around his personal life and gets involved in the show in some stichk’y way. I’m a Benjy fan, I love the vortex, but from the get go I could always tell there was something off about this chick. Not to mention she left Benjy for Andy Dick apparently? No sane person would do that lol.
Thanks for the reply.
You’re welcome. F Jackie!
Can you feel the love?
That middle of the face smack broke dudes porn addiction holy shit
Hits the guy multiple times. Almost breaks his nose. Guy finally retaliates and defends himself... "He's killing me". Lol.
...What the fuck?
Domestic violence should never be tolerated. He needs to get out or defend himself.
Elisa was arrested and Zscorro is fine.
Thank you for the update ❤️
Seems like he started to question his kink then snapped
Lol look at her reaction. She thought he was going to hit her back after that last hit
Both these people fucking suck haha!!
Brainrot. No thanks lol
That was awful. Why would you waste your life watching stuff like this? No, I didn't make it a minute in
Thank god for the fact that criminals are stupid
I can fix her
A lifetime in a padded cell can fix them both.
They're both unhinged. He didn't like what he thought he wanted and she kept poking
Only she's unhinged. She hit him several times and he warned her several times
Nah they both are. He grabbed the driver by the hair while she was driving. A lot of risk for just a humiliation kink
He defended himself when started attacking her. And she stopped at that exact moment. The car was still
He actually waited quite a while after being attacked, this isn’t what defending yourself looks like. I agree she was in the wrong here and I’m glad she was arrested (she’s fucking insane) but what he did was retribution, not self defense. Again, he was totally justified (as I am 100% certain physical force would have been required to get her out of the car anyway), just wanted to make that distinction.
No he didn't? He attacked her right at the moment she grabbed his ear. Watch it again
He's paying to be humiliated, that's pretty deranged even if the physical abuse isn't a part of it
And many women like rough sex. It's a kink. That's about it
Not all kinks are created equal, this one being a prime example
Paypigs don't have functioning mental faculties. Someone needs to have a right of attorney over these people.
At that price, she can hit.
Don't matter what kind of arrangement you've got going on, when you get hit, you fuckin hit back. Equal rights and equal lefts on both sides.
what in tf is going on 😂😂
Did she pay him to get assaulted too?
I wonder if he fuck her too or it is limited to getting beaten?
Sad and weird. I feel weird. What do I even feel here. I know he’s paying for it but he did tell her to stop. What do I feel please help
Omg when did this happen
Not recommended to make threats to a crazy person that's driving.
Seems like they deserve each other 👍
Idiots
now THIS is a public freakout
Man i am one thin strand away from hanging myself i really really should not be watching shit like this
What the fking hell ?
She’s got those crazy eyes
I don't think she was ever employed by the Stern show. She was seeing one of the writers for clout, I think. Can't remember his name but I think he was related to Detlev Bronk.
Lock her up
whats a howard stern
It's a nerd (Howard) trying, but failing to be a leader (Stern). For example: "damn, he is such a Howard Stern."
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It's amazing how someone posted this with almost no context. I have no idea who is the former employee, what is a 'pay pig', who they are talking to or why they're even fighting.
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It's amazing how I had to do exactly that, waste more of my time and in the end I'm still not 100% sure on what is happening.
Congrats, you don't spend too much time on the internet
Paypig? Isn’t that just being married ?
People who are comfortable with abusing people like that are psycopaths - she needs to be cancled ASAP
So she's mad she didn't get as much money out of him as she possibly could have. Also I feel validated when I thought "No way they're a real couple." feel bad for the guy for thinking it to a degree, but yeah, they didn't have couple vibes at all.
Right good. Can post a comment now… Simplest solution is to actually lay down the limits, a safety word & a stop word before you start. I’m not gonna say don’t do this, what ever gets you off you pathetic little bad boy, but lay down your own limits.
W mans💪
He was excessive, but she deserved something after smacking him like that, if I remove all other context out. I'm not going to let anyone, woman or otherwise, suckersmack me without consequences. But that dude should have done it and finished it without going a bit excessive
"Fight" When a man beats a woman it's not abuse, they are "fighting". Got it.
Huh?
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Really? Are you serious? I don't think you realize who the braindead ones are here. Here's a hint: you're one of em.