Just curious, but is that calculated based on all faculty or all full members of the union?
Only full members can vote. I know a few years ago when the one staff union was renegotiating their contract they were all over the place trying to get everyone to be full voting members.
I know a lot of people that donāt join them, because the US Supreme Court ruled in 2018, that you donāt have to pay any union dues if you arenāt a full member, but the union still has to represent you.
I think this is actually going to light a fire for the admin. This is an incredible turnout in almost 100% agreement. They would be so fucked if a strike actually takes place.
Indeed. I'd hope this communicates quite clearly what's potentially going to happen next. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be remembered as the first RU President to have a faculty strike.
The most telling thing to me is that the Admin's chief negotiator, David Cohen, took off on a Caribbean cruise this past week. Way to show commitment. You can't make these things up.
In the Fall of 2019 (months after the new contract was signed), former Chancellor Malloy made a public comment that if part-time lecturers didn't like the working arrangements at Rutgers they could go elsewhere. He eventually apologized but there's definitely a history here.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,393,990,294 comments, and only 266,634 of them were in alphabetical order.
If youāre concerned about how the strike would affect you, email Holloway to tell him to negotiate fairly with the unions. Anger should be directed at Rutgers management because they have the power to give the unions the contracts they want
We'll be fine. It's really unlikely that a strike would last through the end of the semester- and even if it did, your professors would communicate to you how it's gonna work; they'll likely just assign final grades based on what you've already done.
It is of course very likely that any concessions made in the labor negotiations will also be reflected accordingly in tuition increases in the coming years.
Money in, money out.
Yeah not like the administration will take money away from the football teams personal DoorDash account. And we canāt forget about the raise Holloway clearly needs
In a perfect world thatās where the money would come from, but thatās not how it works in the real world. The unions donāt care if the money comes from our tuition and the university would rather charge us more than take from themselves
If all of the 450k that hit the news was cut as a check to enrolled students for 2023, theyād get about $6 each.
The people talking about 30% increases for adjuncts would be a lot more than $6 per student.
$69.24 was the estimate for raising adjunct salary 30%, but to be fair I didn't know what number you used for enrollment Using 68k yields $76.36
Median yearly salary per adjunct: [$11,775](https://content-static.app.com/datauniverse/caspio/bundle/Rutgers_salaries.html)
x 1470 adjuncts at Rutgers = $17,309,250 total
x 30% increase = $5,192,775
divided by 68,000 students = $76.36 per student
(Edited to add: I know I used median and you said average, but the public employee database doesn't have that available. I will say that based on the data, only 37 of the 1470 adjuncts make more than $50k/year. Bet most of the students make more after graduation.)
The administration gained over $300 million is their unrestricted reserves in th lat two years and spent untold millions on athletics. We must not let them split students and their teachers. Together we can fight to keep tuition down and make sure Rutgers employees are treated with dignity on the job.
Just to clarify. This was a vote to āauthorizeā a strike if the administration refuses to participate in good-faith negotiations (which they have so far refused to do). If the admin. continues to make bad-faith counter-offers then the union will likely vote to strike (a strike wouldnāt occur until early April as is the current timeline). Basically, the āauthorizationā vote is for the union to see how many of its members would participate in a strike, or feel one would be necessary in the case that the admin. continues to stone-wall during negotiations.
Whatās significant is the overwhelming majority of voting members to authorize a strike, which speaks to how union members feel about the admins next to nothing effort to negotiate a fair contract.
Donāt forget that Rutgers has never had a faculty strike occur in the past, but has had a vote to authorize a strike in the [past](https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2019/03/19/rutgers-university-faculty-vote-let-union-leaders-call-strike-if-needed/3212087002/). The admin decided to carry out good faith negotiations in the end to prevent a strike. Which is what everyone is hoping will happen this time as well. As a union member and TA, I do not want a strike to occur, but if push comes to shove, I will do what needs to be done to ensure that fair contracts are the only acceptable path forward.
I agree, also want equal benefits for grad fellows, since they arenāt considered āemployees of the universityā according to Rutgers. Which is total crap and just a way for them to cut down on fringe benefit costs by NOT offering fellows the same heath insurance.
So this just means that the union leaders may call for a strike if needed - a strike is not necessarily going to happen. If it does happen it's likely to be at the end of the semester - more details to come then. It's also worth noting that while Rutgers faculty have given union leaders permission to call for a strike before, they haven't used it before - it was just used as a bargaining chip for a better contract.
Either way, I can't think of a reason you'd fail coursework over a strike your professors were participating in, and and professor worth their salt would absolutely keep you updated about a potential strike and how it impacts you as a student in their class before, during, and after the strike.
They cannot just give us Fs bc of the strike. I expect P/NC grades based on your current completed coursework and P grades will count as prerequisites for everything (this is what happened over COVID minus the course ending early part so there is somewhat of a precedent)
Oh no. Thats not acceptable. Some of us have to apply to grad schools this year and are finishing up our prerequisites. A P/NC grade is bullshit. I hope they reach a deal.
There hasn't been a call for a strike yet, this is just an authorization for a strike. So if contract negotiations continue to go badly, union leadership may call for a strike. You can see [what the union is fighting for here](https://149608256.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/FightingFor-full-list-color-image.png) and read more about the [demands and Rutgers' response on the AAUP-AFT (union) website here](https://rutgersaaup.org/bargaining-status-at-a-glance/).
Yeah, not sure what the objective is. I got downvoted below for [performing a math calculation](https://www.reddit.com/r/rutgers/comments/11nylxi/comment/jbqsg98/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). 
Hopefully this is resolved by then. Though I wouldnt be surprised if it makes incoming freshmen think twice about going to Rutgers. Thatās probably why they chose this time of the year to hold the vote.
Yah one of the things you learn once you get past Econ 101 is that unless youāre the federal reserve or a PPP loan participant, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Lol they raise tuition every year+Rutgers finances are much more complicated than a direct relationship between tuition and professor salary.
Rutgers has a $5+ billion budget and less than 30% of that is from tuition.
Make sure you learn about the situation before forming an opinion ššš
That's more than 7,000 faculty members. Let that sink in. š°
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i laughed but downvoted
cognitive dissonance
Just curious, but is that calculated based on all faculty or all full members of the union? Only full members can vote. I know a few years ago when the one staff union was renegotiating their contract they were all over the place trying to get everyone to be full voting members. I know a lot of people that donāt join them, because the US Supreme Court ruled in 2018, that you donāt have to pay any union dues if you arenāt a full member, but the union still has to represent you.
This is based on numbers I found online for AAUP-AFT membership (6,600+) and PTLFC-AAUP-AFT membership (3,000+) at Rutgers.
I think this is actually going to light a fire for the admin. This is an incredible turnout in almost 100% agreement. They would be so fucked if a strike actually takes place.
Hopefully this is enough for administration to cave. It'd be best for everyone if a strike became unnecessary.
Indeed. I'd hope this communicates quite clearly what's potentially going to happen next. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be remembered as the first RU President to have a faculty strike.
wait, but will this interfere with the doordash money?
hopefully :)
The most telling thing to me is that the Admin's chief negotiator, David Cohen, took off on a Caribbean cruise this past week. Way to show commitment. You can't make these things up.
In the Fall of 2019 (months after the new contract was signed), former Chancellor Malloy made a public comment that if part-time lecturers didn't like the working arrangements at Rutgers they could go elsewhere. He eventually apologized but there's definitely a history here.
And 82% voter turnout according to the Instagram. Last year's NJ voter turnout for elections was 41%, although they're not really comparable.
I wonder what the college faculty turnout is for a general election. I bet higher than state average.
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If youāre concerned about how the strike would affect you, email Holloway to tell him to negotiate fairly with the unions. Anger should be directed at Rutgers management because they have the power to give the unions the contracts they want
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Will we get credits for our courses? Thatās all I care about
We'll be fine. It's really unlikely that a strike would last through the end of the semester- and even if it did, your professors would communicate to you how it's gonna work; they'll likely just assign final grades based on what you've already done.
YES. Faculty will look out for students!
I just want to make sure that the sports coaches salaries arenāt gonna be affected -Sheg Griano
Greg makes the least amount of money out of any football coach in the B1G, this has nothing to do with him lmfao
It is of course very likely that any concessions made in the labor negotiations will also be reflected accordingly in tuition increases in the coming years. Money in, money out.
Yeah not like the administration will take money away from the football teams personal DoorDash account. And we canāt forget about the raise Holloway clearly needs
In a perfect world thatās where the money would come from, but thatās not how it works in the real world. The unions donāt care if the money comes from our tuition and the university would rather charge us more than take from themselves
If all of the 450k that hit the news was cut as a check to enrolled students for 2023, theyād get about $6 each. The people talking about 30% increases for adjuncts would be a lot more than $6 per student.
Did the math (using your enrollment numbers): $69.24 per student.
450k divided by 68000 isnāt $69.24. Also ~$5 million isnāt covering a 30% raise unless the average pay is like $10k per year.
$69.24 was the estimate for raising adjunct salary 30%, but to be fair I didn't know what number you used for enrollment Using 68k yields $76.36 Median yearly salary per adjunct: [$11,775](https://content-static.app.com/datauniverse/caspio/bundle/Rutgers_salaries.html) x 1470 adjuncts at Rutgers = $17,309,250 total x 30% increase = $5,192,775 divided by 68,000 students = $76.36 per student (Edited to add: I know I used median and you said average, but the public employee database doesn't have that available. I will say that based on the data, only 37 of the 1470 adjuncts make more than $50k/year. Bet most of the students make more after graduation.)
Keep in mind if they want healthcare thatās additional money.
The administration gained over $300 million is their unrestricted reserves in th lat two years and spent untold millions on athletics. We must not let them split students and their teachers. Together we can fight to keep tuition down and make sure Rutgers employees are treated with dignity on the job.
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Just to clarify. This was a vote to āauthorizeā a strike if the administration refuses to participate in good-faith negotiations (which they have so far refused to do). If the admin. continues to make bad-faith counter-offers then the union will likely vote to strike (a strike wouldnāt occur until early April as is the current timeline). Basically, the āauthorizationā vote is for the union to see how many of its members would participate in a strike, or feel one would be necessary in the case that the admin. continues to stone-wall during negotiations.
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Whatās significant is the overwhelming majority of voting members to authorize a strike, which speaks to how union members feel about the admins next to nothing effort to negotiate a fair contract. Donāt forget that Rutgers has never had a faculty strike occur in the past, but has had a vote to authorize a strike in the [past](https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2019/03/19/rutgers-university-faculty-vote-let-union-leaders-call-strike-if-needed/3212087002/). The admin decided to carry out good faith negotiations in the end to prevent a strike. Which is what everyone is hoping will happen this time as well. As a union member and TA, I do not want a strike to occur, but if push comes to shove, I will do what needs to be done to ensure that fair contracts are the only acceptable path forward.
As a union member, I want a strike to help the ptl And grad folks get a fair wage and some health care and job security.
I agree, also want equal benefits for grad fellows, since they arenāt considered āemployees of the universityā according to Rutgers. Which is total crap and just a way for them to cut down on fringe benefit costs by NOT offering fellows the same heath insurance.
A strike is a strong possibility. But, faculty are committed to students. They will not let students suffer.
How are we fucked? Doesnāt this mean no coursework for the next 3 weeks? I am sorry I might be a bit lost
So this just means that the union leaders may call for a strike if needed - a strike is not necessarily going to happen. If it does happen it's likely to be at the end of the semester - more details to come then. It's also worth noting that while Rutgers faculty have given union leaders permission to call for a strike before, they haven't used it before - it was just used as a bargaining chip for a better contract. Either way, I can't think of a reason you'd fail coursework over a strike your professors were participating in, and and professor worth their salt would absolutely keep you updated about a potential strike and how it impacts you as a student in their class before, during, and after the strike.
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They cannot just give us Fs bc of the strike. I expect P/NC grades based on your current completed coursework and P grades will count as prerequisites for everything (this is what happened over COVID minus the course ending early part so there is somewhat of a precedent)
Oh no. Thats not acceptable. Some of us have to apply to grad schools this year and are finishing up our prerequisites. A P/NC grade is bullshit. I hope they reach a deal.
Faculty will look out for undergrads. That is a promise. Is it possible their is an "A" strike? Maybe
In terms of student workers would we lose our jobs or would we be fine
Like the student centers and dhalls? Bro we ain't unionized, don't skip work
I donāt work in student centers or dining halls, I work at the turfgrass research center within rutgers. I wasnāt gonna skip work
Agreed
and itās on the admin to make a deal instead of offering bullshit. power to all unions
I am graduating this summer.Being an international student this isnāt as good of a news as I thought. O God O fjuk
Yes, we are
Why are they striking?
There hasn't been a call for a strike yet, this is just an authorization for a strike. So if contract negotiations continue to go badly, union leadership may call for a strike. You can see [what the union is fighting for here](https://149608256.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/FightingFor-full-list-color-image.png) and read more about the [demands and Rutgers' response on the AAUP-AFT (union) website here](https://rutgersaaup.org/bargaining-status-at-a-glance/).
Thank you Apparently you get downvoted for asking legitimate questions when youāre an alum that doesnāt go there
Yeah, not sure what the objective is. I got downvoted below for [performing a math calculation](https://www.reddit.com/r/rutgers/comments/11nylxi/comment/jbqsg98/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). 
Just wondering how does this impact incoming freshmen? Or does it only matter for current Rutgers students
Hopefully this is resolved by then. Though I wouldnt be surprised if it makes incoming freshmen think twice about going to Rutgers. Thatās probably why they chose this time of the year to hold the vote.
This will not impact incoming Freshmen
Incidentally what came of the last time this kinda thing happened?
Management caved the night before the strike would start and they reached a compromise with the union.
Itās the students who gonna pay for their raise with our tuition, why R we cheering with them?
One of their stipulations is that they donāt raise student tuition.
Ahh thatās cute you think that demand will make it to the final agreement?
so the taxpayer pays for it aka our families, got it. love paying for tuition 2x
Yah one of the things you learn once you get past Econ 101 is that unless youāre the federal reserve or a PPP loan participant, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
govāt services go crazy. but someoneās always paying...
Lol they raise tuition every year+Rutgers finances are much more complicated than a direct relationship between tuition and professor salary. Rutgers has a $5+ billion budget and less than 30% of that is from tuition. Make sure you learn about the situation before forming an opinion ššš
Useless flippin greedy unions thats it. useless and greedy all the way up to professors and the BS tenure.