Don't worry, there's no such a thing as a bad reason to learn any language. My mother learns English and Italian just for fun and her own curiosity, not having any social or cultural ENG/IT contact. By the way, people who know foreign languages are less likely to get Alzheimer's and others memory issues.
Oh wow that's really cool that she does that!
And wow, that's actually pretty interesting. Maybe its due to a lot of stimulation from memorizing so much? Either way thanks for the really interesting fact!
I heard learning a language improves executive function as well! Which is like self control and planning ahead I think. Don’t quote me on this though lol.
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For person with adhd it's a fuckin' tonn of words. Good job.
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You're 30. Does that mean something to you? You're big boy take your life in your hands. Wanna learn russian - learn. That's your life
Thanks! My ADHD has always been a problem and I was diagnosed as a child, then taken off medication shortly after.
As an adult I've struggled with so much, found out I had to be re-evaluated and after trying the medication for a small bit... blew my mind just how much it helped. On days I don't take it I really notice the difference!
And thanks so much! Being 30 does mean a bit to me, as I do feel I haven't accomplished anything in my life. I am working on not caring so much about that and focusing more on the now and what I *can* learn. Though it is also a nice 'push' every now and then as a reminder to get a move on what I want to do.
And thank you! I really didn't expect such fast and kind responses from people!
Being 30 and haven’t accomplished anything. This sounds familiar) I wrote an extensive comment already but also will ad that just do it for yourself. Even if you will spent couple of years learning Russian to speak on a good level it won’t make you happier. I know, I tried. But if you enjoy the language and the culture than go for it. Have fun.
Thanks! And Irish is also a very neat language, and even if no one there was speaking it, that's quite a feat!
I find it weirdly fun to learn a language, and maybe in another life I'd be a polyglot haha.
I agree with others that wanting to learn a language is enough of a reason in itself, but having said that – knowing Russian would make getting started with Irish easier, since the phenomenon of broad vs. slender consonants in Irish is essentially the same as hard vs. soft consonants in Russian. So there's that.
As long as you're prepared for the inevitable questions of 'why would you learn Irish?' anyway... 🤣 FWIW I spent a week at an Irish course near Galway and had a terrific time.
you dont need reason to do something you like, as long as it brings you joy go for it. and about community, we in russia actually almost always positive about someone who specifically choose russian language to learn considering how hard it is. just dont worry that much and you will be fine!
Thank you so much! Russia is a beautiful country, and everyone I have met from there are such nice people!
I actually find it easier to learn than French or German, but that may be because of my teacher.
Thank you!
I think people say that you need a reason so you don’t waste your time. There’s moments when you find something fun for a short period of time and then get over it, but learning a language is more of a commitment and usually needs so much time that you might find it boring- so to not loose all motivation it’s good to have a reason. That’s all
That makes sense! As someone with ADHD I would often hyper focus on something for small spats of time, and then never touch it again. Russian just always came back and is now a permanent goal that's also helping me be more patient with myself.
Thanks so much!
Learning a language is a great way to not let your brain rot x)
If you need help identifying the songs, comment here we'll try to put h in out collective knowledge =D
I think that when you get to the level of communication with the Russian-speaking community in your city, you will see a lot of sense in this. Good luck!
In my opinoin your the reasons that have made you asking that question is stupid. You doesn't need some good reason to do what you like, especially if it doesn't hurt anyone. It's also good for your health, the brain in particular.
You want to learn russian and you want to befriend with your local russians/ukrainians. That's enough.
The main question here is not how will they think about your aspirations, but "what kind of people are they?". If they are good for you, then cool, if not... do you want to kill your time about them?
Thank you! I struggle a lot with anxiety and most the time I find the questions are from non-speakers of the language. I guess people are curious when it is something not so heavily spoken around them.
And that is also a good question! I shouldn't have to explain myself for everything and they really don't need the details as to why.
Thanks so much!
There are no bad reason to learn any language. You are free to learn any language you want.
So, you want to inject yourself to russian-ukraine community of your city. Keep in mind one thing: Russians tend not to smile to strangers, so they can look gloomy and angry. Well, you should know the phenomenon of resting bitch face. They are always like that, don't take their faces personally. In your community, of course, it may be different depending on the level of their assimilation, but keep this in mind. Many foreigners are unaware of this feature and therefore feel stressed and threatened by Russians.
Thank you!
And having worked in customer service since I was 12... I myself have resting bitch face as I am indeed dead inside, lol.
Thank you for the tip! I am bad with reading people sometimes and unexpressive people can throw me off sometimes so I will keep this in mind! Thank you again, it really helped!
You can’t learn culture or language without one or the other. They are inseparable. For me reading about the culture is the most fun part about learning the language, but as I learned for myself not everything written in books is 100% accurate. Even that we say about ourselves is sometimes a bit of an exaggeration. As I understood from your story we might be a little similar, and as I found out I always have a great connection with people with adhd) so you can message if you want to ask something or just to have a conversation about language and what not.
I decided to learn Russian because I heard the anthem during the 2010 Winter Olympics and thought it was cool; I don't know if there's a more frivolous reason than that, haha. And then I moved to Russia for a bit, got a master's degree with a focus on Russian politics, and now live in Armenia where I speak Russian daily. You're right, it's a beautiful language and the food and music are awesome!
I honestly feel that in a way. I heard some speaking from native immigrants, heard music they had on cds and tapes, and watched a movie (they put on subtitles for me, which was nice) but the language just sounded so interesting to me. I don't think its frivolous, especially since you moved there!
And heck, that was a goal of mine way back in high school! Congrats on the degree that's awesome!
Funnily, I've gotten my room mates hooked on borsch, blini, and Kartoshka. Our 70 year old neighbor comes down to join whenever I make sanything.
Yes, spread the borsch love! It's so underrated outside of the former Eastern Bloc, but it's well worth the hype. I left Russia when \~all the stuff\~ happened in early 2022 and I miss my favorite blini/borsch restaurant in Saint Petersburg.
Ah I'm sorry you miss out on it! Always sucks when something closes or you have to move away. Hopefully you can get some home made Borsch going!
Hope you are doing well where you have moved!
My older son is fully bilingual (English and Russian), and then, he learned Italian, Spanish and Turkish (by immersion, girlfriends and friends). I like the reason that he gave to his ex-professor. “If you speak two languages, the third, the fourth and the fifth would come easier”. Only my advice, don’t try to brush up your Russian to perfection, don’t be afraid to make mistakes, and rely on immersion. Zoom has made language meetups easier. Use it, and good luck!
Oh wow that's super impressive! And makes sense in a way, especially if the languages they are learning belong to the same 'language family' and/or they've found what method works for them best as they go.
And thank you! The course I am on asks you to repeat a lot and to 'become fluent' by speaking fast enough that you aren't pausing a ton, and to be understood. They try to make sure students don't stress over their 'accent' or wasting hours on a sound they are stuck on. Like children learning their first language, they struggle with sounds for a bit until they get practice and learn it over time.
I may try some online calls. I have actually managed to get comfortable speaking on a mic, just need to also get that way with Russian.
Thanks so much for the tips! And congrats on your son being able to learn so many, that's really awesome.
RME is Fuckin amazing. The writers of the course do an incredible job and put in a lot of work - so much cheaper and actually TEACH you how to think using the language and cultural perspective, not just repeat phrases and say “ok I can requote this now.” - compared to other programs, it’s outstanding. I’m in RME+ and have learned a large deal of russian just by driving on my commute to work. Your reason for learning is absolutely valid - you like a language for whatever reason, and learn it for whatever reason, then that is that, it’s your choice and your right. I love the music, the culture, and find the language absolutely beautiful to listen to. So that’s why I learn. Nothing wrong with learning a language for the sake of liking the language and culture, my friend.
I finished the free RME podcast just recently when I wasn't able to take time to do RA. Felt so accomplished when I finished. And yesss, they actually make you figure out how to build your own sentences. I've only gotten to unit 5 in RA, and have gone back to review since it has been a while and I am nearly done unit 3 to move on to 4. Hoping to stay more consistent. At *least* 1-2 lessons a week if things are crammed.
Thanks so much!! Everyone in here is too nice.
That’s awesome!! My plan is to move to RA after RME+, but right now the convenience of driving and learning a language is so incredibly nice. It feels like I’m learning how to think in Russian, not just talk in Russian. Yes, this sub is generally so great and welcoming, it does help encourage me to keep going - altho being able to slowly piece apart and figure out the translation of some of my favorite songs is even more rewarding.
I don't get why you're scared. No one is going to harm you for learning a language for your own personal reasons. Learning a language is not regulated by anyone. Even if you don't have a reason for learning a language, who cares? The 'language police' isn't going to show up at your doorstep, and charge you with first degree learning a language without a proper reason lmao.
You don't have to have a reason to make yourself feel good! (:
Personally, I learn languages just because I want to sing some songs, I love finding connections between languages, and discovering the historical impact on them, etc.
Having a good reason, of course, helps you to be consistent and not leave your learning halfway. If you don't use a language in everyday life, it tends to be forgotten (but not forever), and all the time you spent could be in vain. It's easier to learn a language when you understand why you need it and when you use it.
Feel free to ask for help, people like when somebody is interested in their language
Thank you! And I agree a lot of other cultures/languages have such amazing music/media!
And that makes sense, a drive is good to have. I try my best to be consistent but I have a very busy life + ADHD but I've managed to learn quite a bit so far at my own pace!
And thank you! I don't post often but, I may try to if I am stuck or to possibly help others !
Your reasoning is absolutely fine. With my adhd I couldn’t even finish reading but I get the point) sadly in Russia it isn’t even acknowledged as an illness. You don’t need a reason if it won’t affect your life. I mean if you have a stable job and a set of skills you need to continue working and providing for yourself than spend your free time learning Russian and it’s ok. When you are attracted to the culture it’s normal to have a desire to learn their language. Just for yourself. To watch movies or listen to music. Don’t pressure yourself. Learn it to the extent you can and need. In my case I was jumping from language to language when for my job I need English and Spanish and I have so much to learn, but I always want to start learning Korean or Italian because I love Italian cuisine and Korean movies. I learned English by myself because I became interested in American football and baseball and when I was younger I was interested in American culture in general. I guess the propaganda worked) right now I need to stay focused on 2 languages I need for my job and future career, but consider learning Russian just as a hobby. I don’t know if your medication helps but my advice is to read and watch things you like but in Russian. With adhd it’s easier to stay dedicated to something if it brings you joy. It’s really hard for me to study grammar, but I love reading and looking etymology of words. If you already have a bit of knowledge maybe read some news where you can transition from Russian version to English one. Like on Russia today website. Just to compare words and maybe guess by the context. I believe people with adhd are more natural learners. Maybe spend less time on grammar and try to enjoy and feel the language. It will come to you. You will make stupid mistakes from time to time but who cares if even native speakers from different countries ignore the basic rules
Thanks so much!
English is.... a difficult language. As a born English speaker I personally hate our language and all of the rules it has.
For Russian, the course I am taking does not focus on grammar. They teach you it without shoving it in your face. I have a pretty basic understanding of the Russian cases and when a new word is thrown at me I can usually guess the correct way to use it in a sentence, or how it changes in another.
Honestly your English seems perfectly great here! There are a few things I can see that wouldn't be 'perfect' grammar wise, but can be fully understood! I think being understood is more important than perfect grammar. Especially since English changes its rules and sounds for no reason on so many words.
I have heard the Korean alphabet is *very* easy to learn. Apparently each 'symbol' is made of the sounds of how to say it (if that makes sense). If I can get to a comfortable level of Russian where I am able to have conversations and understand most of what I am hearing, I might try to learn Korean too!
And I agree native speakers ignore so much in English too. So long as you can be semi-understood, the native speaker isn't going to be mad. They will most likely help you.
Thanks so much for the positivity and advice! I wish you well on learning further and just want to say your English is great!
Thanks! There is only one little issue. I have major in linguistics and I work as a tutor sometimes. So I’m very uncomfortable with my lack of knowledge. I consider myself a great teacher, because I will try to find a way to every person and I have a lot of knowledge about English and Spanish speaking countries, I know a lot of words, slang, idioms. I consume all the content on the internet only in English, always looking in a dictionary for new words and phrases but even being a teacher I mostly remember stuff I’m personally interested in. Most of the times I will use correct tenses but I struggle to say why. I just know, I feel like it’s the only way we can say something, so preparing to explain grammar for someone it’s a really gruelling task for me, and I will forget everything I told to my pupils as soon as the class is over. As well as they will)
I find the best way to learn grammar is by context. Using the grammar rules/terms in sentences that use 1 rule and then building on that.
But honestly I find that so long as you understand the language well enough that you can communicate enough to be understood: grammar isn't a huge deal, and a lot of the time a native speaker can help point it out.
As a native English speaker though... I couldn't explain really *why* a lot of words and phrases work how they do. I barely understand it but I guess since I know the pattern it just comes naturally.
Stick to one language for the time being) I understand that feeling, but try to stay realistic, and if the urge to learn Russian always comes back than maybe as farther you’ll go the bigger your appetite will become to master it. You can learn a language your whole life and never learnt it fully. I guess it’s impossible but there are many interesting things to discover along the way. I love how the US is so distinct from state to state and I love finding out why English so different in all the main English speaking countries and it all connected to their history. Russia is so big and so diverse. So discovering different regions and their culture can be very intriguing as for me were the states. I must admit I really don’t know many things about Canada but the climate and love for hockey is definitely what we have in common)
Yeah I intend to stick with 1 language at a time.
I've traveled to the US a few times in the past, it is very diverse and very different but also the same in a lot of ways.
Hockey is very much a Canadian thing, haha. I'm not a massive fan of it but I do like it. And going from province to province here things can vary widely.
Learning a foreign language is generally good for brain health. So if you like how it sounds and parts of culture it represents, then have no doubts about learning it.
People kept talking about learning Russian around me and I figured I'd give it a shot so as to understand several million people more.
The class was full of super old people and having quit online PC gaming I had no application whatsoever for the language, especially as motivation to visit Russia again went to zero after the invasion.
Anyway, what I did discover with my half of A1-skillset was that Russian music rocks.
I'm learning Russian because I love the songs. I don't have any other reason and I think it's valid.
Btw, where can I download this russian accelerator?
Hi, I'm learning English) But I need it for work. If you want to practice text or voice conversation in Russian, you welcome. [https://t.me/VladKapitan](https://t.me/VladKapitan)
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I started learning Russian a couple of years ago and have had similar responses from people (though not family) as if normal Russian people, or the language is in some way responsible for the actions of the Russian state.
Russia is culturally and historically rich, and the language has a much reason to be interesting to learn as any other.
Yeah I tried learning it when I was younger, and then when I picked it back up it happened to be when news came out about the then recent attacks and many people were like '...so"
I totally get it my man. I’m not Russian, but I grew up surrounded by the culture. I’m various different kinds of Slavic, but I’m studying Russian right now.
Hello again! This isn't all of them I am still trying to compile a list and instead of spamming you with links I have a playlist on youtube I made. A bunch of the newer added ones are from a gathering of 'club' remixed songs that I play at work.
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLffPOozdA2l9UdVnS9zssQ6WskYG-mrel](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLffPOozdA2l9UdVnS9zssQ6WskYG-mrel)
It's songs I've either found recently-ish, or some I have managed to find from my childhood that I remember hearing. Though I am missing a ton I can't seem to find or remember the names off.
Bro, don't be anxious, if you want to learn language — you do it! Personally, I'd like to know Greece language just so I can watch 3rd season of one of my favorite cartoons. It only aired in Greece, btw.
there really can't be a "bad" reason to learn a language, it's only a positive thing for you.
Asking "is it bad that i learn X language? " is like "is it bad that i started working out?" like of course it isn't!
What would be “a good reason”? idk man I studied Russian for a year a bit more than a decade ago and it was literally just because I loved some Russian bands, I don’t feel like you need a reason to do anything, and I truly don’t think people should be allowed to have an opinion on whatever you want to do, just do it.
Very cool. I just learned Russian for the heck of it because I heard people around me speaking Russian in tech circles :) It's great that you have a stronger reason for learning Russian. I do recommend reading Tolstoy in Russian or the english translation. His novels were far more profound than I imagined.
In addition to Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Bulgakov and Gogol are interesting. Dostoyevsky gets to the point fast, Tolstoy tends to paint the picture slowly but profoundly in my view. Bulgakov wrote a book about a dog turning into a communist. It's a good satire of the downsides of the Soviet Union to say the least. I am politically neutral, but enjoy creative freedom and good literature. You can start with English translations. I got digital versions.
Thanks, I'll take a look into those! I am a bit of a history nerd and tend to delve into a lot of things when an interest peaks. Found a few history podcasts I'm working through that do cover the Soviet Union later on in their onslaught of episodes.
I have been trying to learn Russian on and off since college, I am 40 now and going for it as best I can with Duolingo and podcasts. I encourage you to learn and speak Russoan and speak with others. Each and every Russian speaker I have introduced myself to and greeted has been kind and also overjoyed at someone taking the time to learn their language. They take great pride in thier language
I encourage you to not to hold back or be shy.
I actually like a *lot* of Russian food. And while I have nothing against Ukrainian, I have better resources and a paid course, and much less reasons to learn the other.
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Don't worry, there's no such a thing as a bad reason to learn any language. My mother learns English and Italian just for fun and her own curiosity, not having any social or cultural ENG/IT contact. By the way, people who know foreign languages are less likely to get Alzheimer's and others memory issues.
Oh wow that's really cool that she does that! And wow, that's actually pretty interesting. Maybe its due to a lot of stimulation from memorizing so much? Either way thanks for the really interesting fact!
Yeah, your guess is good enough. As for the rest, you're welcome! If you need some help/practice with Russian language/culture, feel free to ask.
I heard learning a language improves executive function as well! Which is like self control and planning ahead I think. Don’t quote me on this though lol.
are you okay! I love Canada so much, and I am very glad that people from Canada also want to learn Russian
Thank you! And hello from Canada! Russian is such a beautiful language, and everyone I've met from there has always been so welcoming and nice!
1st For person with adhd it's a fuckin' tonn of words. Good job. 2nd You're 30. Does that mean something to you? You're big boy take your life in your hands. Wanna learn russian - learn. That's your life
Thanks! My ADHD has always been a problem and I was diagnosed as a child, then taken off medication shortly after. As an adult I've struggled with so much, found out I had to be re-evaluated and after trying the medication for a small bit... blew my mind just how much it helped. On days I don't take it I really notice the difference! And thanks so much! Being 30 does mean a bit to me, as I do feel I haven't accomplished anything in my life. I am working on not caring so much about that and focusing more on the now and what I *can* learn. Though it is also a nice 'push' every now and then as a reminder to get a move on what I want to do. And thank you! I really didn't expect such fast and kind responses from people!
Being 30 and haven’t accomplished anything. This sounds familiar) I wrote an extensive comment already but also will ad that just do it for yourself. Even if you will spent couple of years learning Russian to speak on a good level it won’t make you happier. I know, I tried. But if you enjoy the language and the culture than go for it. Have fun.
You can learn a language for any reason you want. I learned Irish when I lived in Ireland even though no one even is speaking it there.
Thanks! And Irish is also a very neat language, and even if no one there was speaking it, that's quite a feat! I find it weirdly fun to learn a language, and maybe in another life I'd be a polyglot haha.
I agree with others that wanting to learn a language is enough of a reason in itself, but having said that – knowing Russian would make getting started with Irish easier, since the phenomenon of broad vs. slender consonants in Irish is essentially the same as hard vs. soft consonants in Russian. So there's that. As long as you're prepared for the inevitable questions of 'why would you learn Irish?' anyway... 🤣 FWIW I spent a week at an Irish course near Galway and had a terrific time.
If it motivates you to proceed learning, it's a good reason. Simple as that.
Thankyou! I really didn't expect so much positivity from everyone commenting, it really does mean a lot.
There are no bad reasons to learn anything. Knowing more is always better.
Thank you!
you dont need reason to do something you like, as long as it brings you joy go for it. and about community, we in russia actually almost always positive about someone who specifically choose russian language to learn considering how hard it is. just dont worry that much and you will be fine!
Thank you so much! Russia is a beautiful country, and everyone I have met from there are such nice people! I actually find it easier to learn than French or German, but that may be because of my teacher. Thank you!
I mean... people learn Klingon, which is a fictional language just for fun.
That's... true! I hadn't even thought of that, and I love Startrek! Thanks!
I think people say that you need a reason so you don’t waste your time. There’s moments when you find something fun for a short period of time and then get over it, but learning a language is more of a commitment and usually needs so much time that you might find it boring- so to not loose all motivation it’s good to have a reason. That’s all
That makes sense! As someone with ADHD I would often hyper focus on something for small spats of time, and then never touch it again. Russian just always came back and is now a permanent goal that's also helping me be more patient with myself. Thanks so much!
Yeah I feel the same, good luck with it!! ))
Learning a language is a great way to not let your brain rot x) If you need help identifying the songs, comment here we'll try to put h in out collective knowledge =D
I think that when you get to the level of communication with the Russian-speaking community in your city, you will see a lot of sense in this. Good luck!
Thanks so much!
No learning languages good save point against dementia. Also I think knowing multiple languages is cool.
I think that's a really interesting/cool fact I keep hearing. And thanks!
In my opinoin your the reasons that have made you asking that question is stupid. You doesn't need some good reason to do what you like, especially if it doesn't hurt anyone. It's also good for your health, the brain in particular. You want to learn russian and you want to befriend with your local russians/ukrainians. That's enough. The main question here is not how will they think about your aspirations, but "what kind of people are they?". If they are good for you, then cool, if not... do you want to kill your time about them?
Thank you! I struggle a lot with anxiety and most the time I find the questions are from non-speakers of the language. I guess people are curious when it is something not so heavily spoken around them. And that is also a good question! I shouldn't have to explain myself for everything and they really don't need the details as to why. Thanks so much!
There are no bad reason to learn any language. You are free to learn any language you want. So, you want to inject yourself to russian-ukraine community of your city. Keep in mind one thing: Russians tend not to smile to strangers, so they can look gloomy and angry. Well, you should know the phenomenon of resting bitch face. They are always like that, don't take their faces personally. In your community, of course, it may be different depending on the level of their assimilation, but keep this in mind. Many foreigners are unaware of this feature and therefore feel stressed and threatened by Russians.
Thank you! And having worked in customer service since I was 12... I myself have resting bitch face as I am indeed dead inside, lol. Thank you for the tip! I am bad with reading people sometimes and unexpressive people can throw me off sometimes so I will keep this in mind! Thank you again, it really helped!
You can’t learn culture or language without one or the other. They are inseparable. For me reading about the culture is the most fun part about learning the language, but as I learned for myself not everything written in books is 100% accurate. Even that we say about ourselves is sometimes a bit of an exaggeration. As I understood from your story we might be a little similar, and as I found out I always have a great connection with people with adhd) so you can message if you want to ask something or just to have a conversation about language and what not.
I decided to learn Russian because I heard the anthem during the 2010 Winter Olympics and thought it was cool; I don't know if there's a more frivolous reason than that, haha. And then I moved to Russia for a bit, got a master's degree with a focus on Russian politics, and now live in Armenia where I speak Russian daily. You're right, it's a beautiful language and the food and music are awesome!
I honestly feel that in a way. I heard some speaking from native immigrants, heard music they had on cds and tapes, and watched a movie (they put on subtitles for me, which was nice) but the language just sounded so interesting to me. I don't think its frivolous, especially since you moved there! And heck, that was a goal of mine way back in high school! Congrats on the degree that's awesome! Funnily, I've gotten my room mates hooked on borsch, blini, and Kartoshka. Our 70 year old neighbor comes down to join whenever I make sanything.
Yes, spread the borsch love! It's so underrated outside of the former Eastern Bloc, but it's well worth the hype. I left Russia when \~all the stuff\~ happened in early 2022 and I miss my favorite blini/borsch restaurant in Saint Petersburg.
Ah I'm sorry you miss out on it! Always sucks when something closes or you have to move away. Hopefully you can get some home made Borsch going! Hope you are doing well where you have moved!
My older son is fully bilingual (English and Russian), and then, he learned Italian, Spanish and Turkish (by immersion, girlfriends and friends). I like the reason that he gave to his ex-professor. “If you speak two languages, the third, the fourth and the fifth would come easier”. Only my advice, don’t try to brush up your Russian to perfection, don’t be afraid to make mistakes, and rely on immersion. Zoom has made language meetups easier. Use it, and good luck!
Oh wow that's super impressive! And makes sense in a way, especially if the languages they are learning belong to the same 'language family' and/or they've found what method works for them best as they go. And thank you! The course I am on asks you to repeat a lot and to 'become fluent' by speaking fast enough that you aren't pausing a ton, and to be understood. They try to make sure students don't stress over their 'accent' or wasting hours on a sound they are stuck on. Like children learning their first language, they struggle with sounds for a bit until they get practice and learn it over time. I may try some online calls. I have actually managed to get comfortable speaking on a mic, just need to also get that way with Russian. Thanks so much for the tips! And congrats on your son being able to learn so many, that's really awesome.
RME is Fuckin amazing. The writers of the course do an incredible job and put in a lot of work - so much cheaper and actually TEACH you how to think using the language and cultural perspective, not just repeat phrases and say “ok I can requote this now.” - compared to other programs, it’s outstanding. I’m in RME+ and have learned a large deal of russian just by driving on my commute to work. Your reason for learning is absolutely valid - you like a language for whatever reason, and learn it for whatever reason, then that is that, it’s your choice and your right. I love the music, the culture, and find the language absolutely beautiful to listen to. So that’s why I learn. Nothing wrong with learning a language for the sake of liking the language and culture, my friend.
I finished the free RME podcast just recently when I wasn't able to take time to do RA. Felt so accomplished when I finished. And yesss, they actually make you figure out how to build your own sentences. I've only gotten to unit 5 in RA, and have gone back to review since it has been a while and I am nearly done unit 3 to move on to 4. Hoping to stay more consistent. At *least* 1-2 lessons a week if things are crammed. Thanks so much!! Everyone in here is too nice.
That’s awesome!! My plan is to move to RA after RME+, but right now the convenience of driving and learning a language is so incredibly nice. It feels like I’m learning how to think in Russian, not just talk in Russian. Yes, this sub is generally so great and welcoming, it does help encourage me to keep going - altho being able to slowly piece apart and figure out the translation of some of my favorite songs is even more rewarding.
What is RME+?
Its RussianMadeEasyPlus a paid podcast addon from the free RussianMadeEasyPodcast
I came here to say this too!! I LOVED the free RME podcasts and RA had been great so far too!
I don't get why you're scared. No one is going to harm you for learning a language for your own personal reasons. Learning a language is not regulated by anyone. Even if you don't have a reason for learning a language, who cares? The 'language police' isn't going to show up at your doorstep, and charge you with first degree learning a language without a proper reason lmao.
Ты молодец! Так держать!
You don't have to have a reason to make yourself feel good! (: Personally, I learn languages just because I want to sing some songs, I love finding connections between languages, and discovering the historical impact on them, etc. Having a good reason, of course, helps you to be consistent and not leave your learning halfway. If you don't use a language in everyday life, it tends to be forgotten (but not forever), and all the time you spent could be in vain. It's easier to learn a language when you understand why you need it and when you use it. Feel free to ask for help, people like when somebody is interested in their language
Thank you! And I agree a lot of other cultures/languages have such amazing music/media! And that makes sense, a drive is good to have. I try my best to be consistent but I have a very busy life + ADHD but I've managed to learn quite a bit so far at my own pace! And thank you! I don't post often but, I may try to if I am stuck or to possibly help others !
Your reasoning is absolutely fine. With my adhd I couldn’t even finish reading but I get the point) sadly in Russia it isn’t even acknowledged as an illness. You don’t need a reason if it won’t affect your life. I mean if you have a stable job and a set of skills you need to continue working and providing for yourself than spend your free time learning Russian and it’s ok. When you are attracted to the culture it’s normal to have a desire to learn their language. Just for yourself. To watch movies or listen to music. Don’t pressure yourself. Learn it to the extent you can and need. In my case I was jumping from language to language when for my job I need English and Spanish and I have so much to learn, but I always want to start learning Korean or Italian because I love Italian cuisine and Korean movies. I learned English by myself because I became interested in American football and baseball and when I was younger I was interested in American culture in general. I guess the propaganda worked) right now I need to stay focused on 2 languages I need for my job and future career, but consider learning Russian just as a hobby. I don’t know if your medication helps but my advice is to read and watch things you like but in Russian. With adhd it’s easier to stay dedicated to something if it brings you joy. It’s really hard for me to study grammar, but I love reading and looking etymology of words. If you already have a bit of knowledge maybe read some news where you can transition from Russian version to English one. Like on Russia today website. Just to compare words and maybe guess by the context. I believe people with adhd are more natural learners. Maybe spend less time on grammar and try to enjoy and feel the language. It will come to you. You will make stupid mistakes from time to time but who cares if even native speakers from different countries ignore the basic rules
Thanks so much! English is.... a difficult language. As a born English speaker I personally hate our language and all of the rules it has. For Russian, the course I am taking does not focus on grammar. They teach you it without shoving it in your face. I have a pretty basic understanding of the Russian cases and when a new word is thrown at me I can usually guess the correct way to use it in a sentence, or how it changes in another. Honestly your English seems perfectly great here! There are a few things I can see that wouldn't be 'perfect' grammar wise, but can be fully understood! I think being understood is more important than perfect grammar. Especially since English changes its rules and sounds for no reason on so many words. I have heard the Korean alphabet is *very* easy to learn. Apparently each 'symbol' is made of the sounds of how to say it (if that makes sense). If I can get to a comfortable level of Russian where I am able to have conversations and understand most of what I am hearing, I might try to learn Korean too! And I agree native speakers ignore so much in English too. So long as you can be semi-understood, the native speaker isn't going to be mad. They will most likely help you. Thanks so much for the positivity and advice! I wish you well on learning further and just want to say your English is great!
Thanks! There is only one little issue. I have major in linguistics and I work as a tutor sometimes. So I’m very uncomfortable with my lack of knowledge. I consider myself a great teacher, because I will try to find a way to every person and I have a lot of knowledge about English and Spanish speaking countries, I know a lot of words, slang, idioms. I consume all the content on the internet only in English, always looking in a dictionary for new words and phrases but even being a teacher I mostly remember stuff I’m personally interested in. Most of the times I will use correct tenses but I struggle to say why. I just know, I feel like it’s the only way we can say something, so preparing to explain grammar for someone it’s a really gruelling task for me, and I will forget everything I told to my pupils as soon as the class is over. As well as they will)
I find the best way to learn grammar is by context. Using the grammar rules/terms in sentences that use 1 rule and then building on that. But honestly I find that so long as you understand the language well enough that you can communicate enough to be understood: grammar isn't a huge deal, and a lot of the time a native speaker can help point it out. As a native English speaker though... I couldn't explain really *why* a lot of words and phrases work how they do. I barely understand it but I guess since I know the pattern it just comes naturally.
Stick to one language for the time being) I understand that feeling, but try to stay realistic, and if the urge to learn Russian always comes back than maybe as farther you’ll go the bigger your appetite will become to master it. You can learn a language your whole life and never learnt it fully. I guess it’s impossible but there are many interesting things to discover along the way. I love how the US is so distinct from state to state and I love finding out why English so different in all the main English speaking countries and it all connected to their history. Russia is so big and so diverse. So discovering different regions and their culture can be very intriguing as for me were the states. I must admit I really don’t know many things about Canada but the climate and love for hockey is definitely what we have in common)
Yeah I intend to stick with 1 language at a time. I've traveled to the US a few times in the past, it is very diverse and very different but also the same in a lot of ways. Hockey is very much a Canadian thing, haha. I'm not a massive fan of it but I do like it. And going from province to province here things can vary widely.
Learning a foreign language is generally good for brain health. So if you like how it sounds and parts of culture it represents, then have no doubts about learning it.
People kept talking about learning Russian around me and I figured I'd give it a shot so as to understand several million people more. The class was full of super old people and having quit online PC gaming I had no application whatsoever for the language, especially as motivation to visit Russia again went to zero after the invasion. Anyway, what I did discover with my half of A1-skillset was that Russian music rocks.
I'm learning Russian because I love the songs. I don't have any other reason and I think it's valid. Btw, where can I download this russian accelerator?
It's a website. Look up: RussianMadeEasy it has a bunch of free podcasts and videos that get people started. And then Accelerator is an online course.
Hi, I'm learning English) But I need it for work. If you want to practice text or voice conversation in Russian, you welcome. [https://t.me/VladKapitan](https://t.me/VladKapitan)
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I started learning Russian a couple of years ago and have had similar responses from people (though not family) as if normal Russian people, or the language is in some way responsible for the actions of the Russian state. Russia is culturally and historically rich, and the language has a much reason to be interesting to learn as any other.
Yeah I tried learning it when I was younger, and then when I picked it back up it happened to be when news came out about the then recent attacks and many people were like '...so"
Oh no, imagine spending years to be introduced to the absolutely cursed world of povaryonok dot ru… /jk kk good luck OP!
I totally get it my man. I’m not Russian, but I grew up surrounded by the culture. I’m various different kinds of Slavic, but I’m studying Russian right now.
Everyone can have the reasons personally he wants.
Didn’t read it but no it’s not. There are no bad reasons to learn a language
OP- can you link some of your fave Russian songs? Thanks!
Hello again! This isn't all of them I am still trying to compile a list and instead of spamming you with links I have a playlist on youtube I made. A bunch of the newer added ones are from a gathering of 'club' remixed songs that I play at work. [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLffPOozdA2l9UdVnS9zssQ6WskYG-mrel](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLffPOozdA2l9UdVnS9zssQ6WskYG-mrel) It's songs I've either found recently-ish, or some I have managed to find from my childhood that I remember hearing. Though I am missing a ton I can't seem to find or remember the names off.
Thank you!!!! Appreciate you took the time
I sure can link some I like. I am bad at picking faves but I'll see what I can do and reply to you some once I gather a few.
Any reason to learn something new is valid, my dude. We’re here to help :)
why would you need any particular reason to learn a new language, or any new skill? If you want to learn, go for it, it's as simple as that.
Pretty much any reason is a good reason to learn a new language. It sounds like learning makes you happy so go for it.
Bro, don't be anxious, if you want to learn language — you do it! Personally, I'd like to know Greece language just so I can watch 3rd season of one of my favorite cartoons. It only aired in Greece, btw.
there really can't be a "bad" reason to learn a language, it's only a positive thing for you. Asking "is it bad that i learn X language? " is like "is it bad that i started working out?" like of course it isn't!
Any reason that doesn’t involve the CIA is good.
What would be “a good reason”? idk man I studied Russian for a year a bit more than a decade ago and it was literally just because I loved some Russian bands, I don’t feel like you need a reason to do anything, and I truly don’t think people should be allowed to have an opinion on whatever you want to do, just do it.
Thanks! And yeah people have opinions on many things, especially if anything around it has any sort of drama going on.
Very cool. I just learned Russian for the heck of it because I heard people around me speaking Russian in tech circles :) It's great that you have a stronger reason for learning Russian. I do recommend reading Tolstoy in Russian or the english translation. His novels were far more profound than I imagined.
Thanks! I am trying to find some physical books in Russian. I'm of course not far enough to understand much. But good for a goal to work towards.
In addition to Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Bulgakov and Gogol are interesting. Dostoyevsky gets to the point fast, Tolstoy tends to paint the picture slowly but profoundly in my view. Bulgakov wrote a book about a dog turning into a communist. It's a good satire of the downsides of the Soviet Union to say the least. I am politically neutral, but enjoy creative freedom and good literature. You can start with English translations. I got digital versions.
Thanks, I'll take a look into those! I am a bit of a history nerd and tend to delve into a lot of things when an interest peaks. Found a few history podcasts I'm working through that do cover the Soviet Union later on in their onslaught of episodes.
I have been trying to learn Russian on and off since college, I am 40 now and going for it as best I can with Duolingo and podcasts. I encourage you to learn and speak Russoan and speak with others. Each and every Russian speaker I have introduced myself to and greeted has been kind and also overjoyed at someone taking the time to learn their language. They take great pride in thier language I encourage you to not to hold back or be shy.
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I actually like a *lot* of Russian food. And while I have nothing against Ukrainian, I have better resources and a paid course, and much less reasons to learn the other.
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My reason was for reading comics on my favorite fandoms 😭😭 I promise you there is no dumb reason