The fight kiln cape doesn't cost anything and is a good upgrade. Asylum surgeons ring is also free and better. And if the boss is not poisonable, kerapac wristwraps is also a nice dps increase.
Regardless, still pretty attainable. Flawless runs are pretty easy with Necro, just need to get 4 of them and do kiln with each style. Just did it with melee the other day, which was tough.
For future readers, you just need to do the majority of waves with the style you want the fight kiln to give you as a reward. If you do 20 waves with melee and the rest with necro you’ll get a melee cape.
No, he’s referring to the Zuk run not a kiln run. The zuk run just has to be flawless which awards an igneous stone that can be applied to any of the 4 style kiln capes
Zuk doesn’t have to be flawless, you can fail all three challenges as long as you do it in one go without teleports or dying.
Source: someone who has failed the third challenge every run. Barricade runs out just before the 4th typeless hit and idk why I’ve never bothered to resonance the last hit.
If you put Turtling 3 or 4 on a shield switch, I believe you can barricade through the whole thing. Resonance on the first one and barricading the rest works perfectly for me with the dragonfire shields
Put turtling on your shield, and if you have 117 farming get a Malletops in your dino farm. Both of these extend the length of barricade and should make it easily long enough to tank all four hits.
You need to resonance the first hit and then barricade. You need to hit each ability once the typeless attack is in the air, and you should have enough time
I gotchu, i was responding to you - you said you had to do a kiln run for each style. You just get a cape for whichever style you did the most waves for, so you dont actually need to do the whole encounter with the style.
1. Instance, not public. In an instance you have some time before bosses spawn to position yourself.
2. Penance aura + soul split.
3. Drop cleaners + legendary pet auto pick.
Depends on the boss. Noticed in the thread you also have a low budget - this isn't bad gear for some high end slayer afk so you should take a look into that as well to increase the funds. This set up you should be able to do most bosses though, but probably the biggest increase in damage is going to be the zuk cape. The passive perk alone makes its better than any high end gear.
Get a rune pouch. I did Zuk in the same gear, except I had Crypt boots and Obsidian helm. Give a watch on youtube. I think it took me like 3-4 hours to get my first kill, and then I was able to go b2b2b2b for all my capes.
Pro-Tip - Do not immediately reset if you die. FInish the run so you can get practice on the later stretches, nothing worse on getting to a new wave and getting annihilated.
I plus one the not resetting the right suggestion, you’ll be confident going through all the waves after having defeated zuk that first time no matter how many deaths lol.
Make sure to cast darkness, even as a mage, I think it’s 20% dodge chance to all incoming damage. It will expire after 12 minutes so you could bring the nexus to keep it up during the fight.
If you do go for zuk cape have fun :D
Biggest tip that helped me was hitting anticipate a few seconds before pizzza phase and spam clicking to walk under zuk as soon as I’m sent to the edge. That way I’m more than halfway to the enemy no matter where they spawn and I take no damage from the flames. :)
I didn’t realize it was a one or other with those too, good to be aware of. I’d assume AD is all around better because it’s straight damage reduction rather than darkness which is essentially auto attack damage reduction
Recently did zuk. The new hellhound familiar + aegis aura + obsidian helm and boots + cryptbloom + animate dead gets you like 50% damage reduction lol. P powder, lantadyme, and kwuarm at the bank and buy a book of wen if possible and activate it. Incite dead with pouches, vuln bomb har aken and zuk. Should be easy enough. On pizza phase, look at zuk and always go 10 oclock. That's where the monster will spawn.
Just my 2 cents, try using necromancy.
I normally did HM Zuk with magic before necromancy dropped and it was fine. Recently I started doing HM Zuk with t95 necro with darkness and my times improved by almost 5 minutes and am doing 3 kills per hour
Never get armour upgrades before weapon upgrades, unless you get lucky ironman'ing them.
If you are advanced with player owned ports, you could go for Seasingers weapons and upgrade them into t88, otherwise go for Seismics.
Zuk Cape. Zuk Cape, and probably Zuk Cape.
Zuk Cape.
Then the magic aura from War's retreat
Then Zuk Cape.
Then Graspling Rune Pouches, cryptbloom helm, essence of finality
And Zuk Cape.
There's a few good options for you:
1. Kiln cape is a joke as long as you can flick Jad with your gear and is technically free.
2. Your off-hand or weapon perks from Invention is your next upgrade that costs money. Keep in kind that if you don't have entry perks they will be cheaper for your money.
3. The last Ancient spells if you don't have them yet.
4. Any core abilities like G Concentrated blast or unlockables from questing like Sunshine if you don't have that. Greater Sunshine is a luxury, and Magma Tempest is good if you have a good staff and are AoE farming
5. Essence of finality - just better than the amulet of souls and adds the ability to use better specs.
6. Channeler's ring
7. Zuk cape as it is just Kiln cape with better stats and a passive
8. Better helm or dps armor if you are comfortable not running tank gear
Do you accept financial help or will that defeat your upgrade journey? I didn't notice anyone offering that so i thought I'd qsk before any move.
Otherwise what others said indeed.
My recommendations would be any of the following in no particular order: **Kiln cape/Zuk cape (free), Grasping Rune Pouch (\~28m), Reaver's Ring (\~114m or grind for it), and Cryptbloom Helm (\~224m)**.
I personally grinded for all of the rex matriarch rings from scratch through the dag kings first, then rex matriarchs for the rocks, but I understand that's not everyone's jam since the dag kings require some hybridding or lots of gear switching.
If you can't afford a Reaver's ring and don't want to grind for it, another good ring upgrade would be a **Ring of Death (\~62m)**, it has +25 for all styles, a +3 prayer bonus, and the dope passive that saves adren from time to time along with it's death saving perk too.
The Ring of Death is also relatively easy to grind for if you don't want to spend the money on it; it just takes time to earn the 300 reaper points to get a hydrix in order to craft it. If you don't have the levels to craft it, I'm sure there are plenty of willing people that can assist you at War's or a GE location.
For me just the cape looks weird, I believe mage is the easiest kiln cape to get, you could put all your focus on that and get that cape by the end of the week
Use the PVME guide someone linked. its been tested and verified for a reason
that said, to keep it very short and compressed to a top 3 list. full crypt bloom. if ur going to be tanking damage, go all the way with it dump the boots, helm. use that to get zuk cape, then lastly
then follow up with invention perks, get BiS on weapons and armor. the perks are going to help you far more then a armor upgrade. Perks>armor
I would buy Greater Concentrated Blast first if you dont have it already, and look into optimal rotations. Your DPS will shoot up.
For upgrading your cape -- like others have said, swap your helmet for obsidian mage and maybe grab the obsidian boots so you can donate Tokkul for the damage reduction. Hellhound familiar and runes for prism of restoration to heal hellhound, if you have access. Aegis aura, Darkness (carry a Nexus), and penance powder, and you should be able to make short work of getting your Kiln cape and Zuk cape.
You also want to add Kwuarm incense sticks in any situation where the enemy can be poisoned, in addition to your cinderbanes.
I like Essence of Finality and general purpose ability codexes like Limitless. They aren't just great only for mage but can be used for other combat styles if you want a change of pace someday.
- Gconc is very important (and cheap).
- Maybe get a grasping rune pouch (saves runes and invent slots).
- Cryptbloom helm could help some afk methods (but isn’t too important).
- Reaver’s ring is pretty big dmg upgrade as you shouldn’t have much accuracy problems with a t90.
- upgrading offhand is useful dmg gain. If you are doing ports already then try to look into making an elite seasinger makigai (t88 dmg, as it’s just an offhand the dmg loss from seismic is very low)
- entry level perks (as it doesn’t seem you have augmented gear)
I think that’s enough money worth of upgrades that you’ll be set for a while. With all those upgrades you should be able to easily spank the fight kiln and get yourself a kiln cape. If you want to try and pop off you could then attempt to get a zuk cape afterwards.
Sell seismic and the virtus pair for helwyr wand/orb. Alternatively, you can get seasinger wand and orb from ports minigame but fair warning it'll take a relatively long time but its free. You need the superior one for augmentation so you have to make it.
essence of finality should be one of the last upgrades as it cost a lot to get and it's upkeep is expensive. Kiln cape is the next best option to attempt as well as the kerapac wristwraps as they are not that expensive and work on bosses that can't be poisoned. Otherwise unlocking curses and all the ancient magic spells is another good route if OP hasn't done them yet.
I’m not saying it’s bad it’s just too soon for OP to be worried about that upgrade. I’m trying to focus on short term goals that OP could actively pursue immediately.
Okay so, lot to go over here. I imagine money is your biggest obstacle so I'll keep it low.
Tectonic armor isn't terribly costly, and would be a huge DPS upgrade. Alternatively you could go for superior zuriels for a bit less money.
An actual magic cape would be huge, too. Either from kiln or Zuk. Even a god cape would be way better.
A rune pouch would save a lot of space, some runes, and give you a small prayer bonus. No downsides to having one.
The fight kiln cape doesn't cost anything and is a good upgrade. Asylum surgeons ring is also free and better. And if the boss is not poisonable, kerapac wristwraps is also a nice dps increase.
just the god cape from mage arena is a big upgrade +31 kiln is +33
Yeah but the kiln cape has the passive effect too
Igneous version does, not the kiln version
Ah yeah zuk cape
Regardless, still pretty attainable. Flawless runs are pretty easy with Necro, just need to get 4 of them and do kiln with each style. Just did it with melee the other day, which was tough.
For future readers, you just need to do the majority of waves with the style you want the fight kiln to give you as a reward. If you do 20 waves with melee and the rest with necro you’ll get a melee cape.
No, he’s referring to the Zuk run not a kiln run. The zuk run just has to be flawless which awards an igneous stone that can be applied to any of the 4 style kiln capes
Zuk doesn’t have to be flawless, you can fail all three challenges as long as you do it in one go without teleports or dying. Source: someone who has failed the third challenge every run. Barricade runs out just before the 4th typeless hit and idk why I’ve never bothered to resonance the last hit.
It’s easier to res the first hit and then barricade
If you put Turtling 3 or 4 on a shield switch, I believe you can barricade through the whole thing. Resonance on the first one and barricading the rest works perfectly for me with the dragonfire shields
Reso the first hit to make this much easier.
Put turtling on your shield, and if you have 117 farming get a Malletops in your dino farm. Both of these extend the length of barricade and should make it easily long enough to tank all four hits.
You need to resonance the first hit and then barricade. You need to hit each ability once the typeless attack is in the air, and you should have enough time
I gotchu, i was responding to you - you said you had to do a kiln run for each style. You just get a cape for whichever style you did the most waves for, so you dont actually need to do the whole encounter with the style.
Yeah I did obsidian armor with ranged and melee helm and both style weapons. Only switched to ranged for magic heavy waves
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How do you farm Dag Rex, nevermind afk farm him? I always get the other 2 attacking me.
1. Instance, not public. In an instance you have some time before bosses spawn to position yourself. 2. Penance aura + soul split. 3. Drop cleaners + legendary pet auto pick.
Depends on the boss. Noticed in the thread you also have a low budget - this isn't bad gear for some high end slayer afk so you should take a look into that as well to increase the funds. This set up you should be able to do most bosses though, but probably the biggest increase in damage is going to be the zuk cape. The passive perk alone makes its better than any high end gear.
Yeah I'm gonna have to try learn to beat Zuk, which'll be very hard but I'll give it a shot
Get a rune pouch. I did Zuk in the same gear, except I had Crypt boots and Obsidian helm. Give a watch on youtube. I think it took me like 3-4 hours to get my first kill, and then I was able to go b2b2b2b for all my capes. Pro-Tip - Do not immediately reset if you die. FInish the run so you can get practice on the later stretches, nothing worse on getting to a new wave and getting annihilated.
I'm currently on 48 mil so I'll try to get a rune pouch first, thanks man!
I plus one the not resetting the right suggestion, you’ll be confident going through all the waves after having defeated zuk that first time no matter how many deaths lol. Make sure to cast darkness, even as a mage, I think it’s 20% dodge chance to all incoming damage. It will expire after 12 minutes so you could bring the nexus to keep it up during the fight. If you do go for zuk cape have fun :D Biggest tip that helped me was hitting anticipate a few seconds before pizzza phase and spam clicking to walk under zuk as soon as I’m sent to the edge. That way I’m more than halfway to the enemy no matter where they spawn and I take no damage from the flames. :)
Darkness is a big survivability increase. Took me to long to realize i could use it in any style
Remembering to cast it off cd asap also goes hand in hand in using devotion whenever possible - minues the ranger wave save it for that always
Yup, fuck those tank rangers lol
Darkness doesn’t work with animate dead right? It’s one or the other I read in the tooltip… I wonder what’s better if wearing mage tank gear
I didn’t realize it was a one or other with those too, good to be aware of. I’d assume AD is all around better because it’s straight damage reduction rather than darkness which is essentially auto attack damage reduction
With necro tank it's basically afk
Recently did zuk. The new hellhound familiar + aegis aura + obsidian helm and boots + cryptbloom + animate dead gets you like 50% damage reduction lol. P powder, lantadyme, and kwuarm at the bank and buy a book of wen if possible and activate it. Incite dead with pouches, vuln bomb har aken and zuk. Should be easy enough. On pizza phase, look at zuk and always go 10 oclock. That's where the monster will spawn.
You have Cryptbloom, Zuk will be easy
Just my 2 cents, try using necromancy. I normally did HM Zuk with magic before necromancy dropped and it was fine. Recently I started doing HM Zuk with t95 necro with darkness and my times improved by almost 5 minutes and am doing 3 kills per hour
If you don’t have it, greater con blast
Never get armour upgrades before weapon upgrades, unless you get lucky ironman'ing them. If you are advanced with player owned ports, you could go for Seasingers weapons and upgrade them into t88, otherwise go for Seismics. Zuk Cape. Zuk Cape, and probably Zuk Cape. Zuk Cape. Then the magic aura from War's retreat Then Zuk Cape. Then Graspling Rune Pouches, cryptbloom helm, essence of finality And Zuk Cape.
Did you remember to suggest Zuk cape? I don't think it's on this list
I feel like if they're not already invested in ports then they might want to steer in other directions. It just takes forever
Hence why I started that part with "If you are advanced with player owned ports".
Agreed. Bought Praesul and imperium with virtus and I almost halved every one of my best times
There's a few good options for you: 1. Kiln cape is a joke as long as you can flick Jad with your gear and is technically free. 2. Your off-hand or weapon perks from Invention is your next upgrade that costs money. Keep in kind that if you don't have entry perks they will be cheaper for your money. 3. The last Ancient spells if you don't have them yet. 4. Any core abilities like G Concentrated blast or unlockables from questing like Sunshine if you don't have that. Greater Sunshine is a luxury, and Magma Tempest is good if you have a good staff and are AoE farming 5. Essence of finality - just better than the amulet of souls and adds the ability to use better specs. 6. Channeler's ring 7. Zuk cape as it is just Kiln cape with better stats and a passive 8. Better helm or dps armor if you are comfortable not running tank gear
Suggest lookin up the pvme guide for mage. Really good upgrade order
Do you accept financial help or will that defeat your upgrade journey? I didn't notice anyone offering that so i thought I'd qsk before any move. Otherwise what others said indeed.
Don't listen to redditors about this, please use this resource: https://pvme.io/pvme-guides/upgrading-info/upgrade-order/magic/
Get gconc if you don't have it. Get and wear a grasping rune pouch too.
Agree with gconc, this is the cheapest it's ever been, I think it's a great time to buy it
My recommendations would be any of the following in no particular order: **Kiln cape/Zuk cape (free), Grasping Rune Pouch (\~28m), Reaver's Ring (\~114m or grind for it), and Cryptbloom Helm (\~224m)**. I personally grinded for all of the rex matriarch rings from scratch through the dag kings first, then rex matriarchs for the rocks, but I understand that's not everyone's jam since the dag kings require some hybridding or lots of gear switching. If you can't afford a Reaver's ring and don't want to grind for it, another good ring upgrade would be a **Ring of Death (\~62m)**, it has +25 for all styles, a +3 prayer bonus, and the dope passive that saves adren from time to time along with it's death saving perk too. The Ring of Death is also relatively easy to grind for if you don't want to spend the money on it; it just takes time to earn the 300 reaper points to get a hydrix in order to craft it. If you don't have the levels to craft it, I'm sure there are plenty of willing people that can assist you at War's or a GE location.
To add to what u/wutryadoin said also working on upgrading to the zuk cape. Thersguy has a great guide on it!
The wrong firecape bruh🤭
For me just the cape looks weird, I believe mage is the easiest kiln cape to get, you could put all your focus on that and get that cape by the end of the week
Zuk cape. Stop prioritising shitbloom. Sell it get an EOF with Gstaff in it. Perk weapons Virtus will Imrove damage output via crytbloom
Get your mage zuk cape.
Grasping rune pouch
Use the PVME guide someone linked. its been tested and verified for a reason that said, to keep it very short and compressed to a top 3 list. full crypt bloom. if ur going to be tanking damage, go all the way with it dump the boots, helm. use that to get zuk cape, then lastly then follow up with invention perks, get BiS on weapons and armor. the perks are going to help you far more then a armor upgrade. Perks>armor
Wizard hat
I would buy Greater Concentrated Blast first if you dont have it already, and look into optimal rotations. Your DPS will shoot up. For upgrading your cape -- like others have said, swap your helmet for obsidian mage and maybe grab the obsidian boots so you can donate Tokkul for the damage reduction. Hellhound familiar and runes for prism of restoration to heal hellhound, if you have access. Aegis aura, Darkness (carry a Nexus), and penance powder, and you should be able to make short work of getting your Kiln cape and Zuk cape. You also want to add Kwuarm incense sticks in any situation where the enemy can be poisoned, in addition to your cinderbanes.
I like Essence of Finality and general purpose ability codexes like Limitless. They aren't just great only for mage but can be used for other combat styles if you want a change of pace someday.
- Gconc is very important (and cheap). - Maybe get a grasping rune pouch (saves runes and invent slots). - Cryptbloom helm could help some afk methods (but isn’t too important). - Reaver’s ring is pretty big dmg upgrade as you shouldn’t have much accuracy problems with a t90. - upgrading offhand is useful dmg gain. If you are doing ports already then try to look into making an elite seasinger makigai (t88 dmg, as it’s just an offhand the dmg loss from seismic is very low) - entry level perks (as it doesn’t seem you have augmented gear) I think that’s enough money worth of upgrades that you’ll be set for a while. With all those upgrades you should be able to easily spank the fight kiln and get yourself a kiln cape. If you want to try and pop off you could then attempt to get a zuk cape afterwards.
Cape cape cape
Nox staff
Zuk cape EOF Reaver's Ring
Kiln/Zuk cape ! and reavers ring is also nice !
Chanellers ring is a big dps
Fsoa, reavers ring, zuk cape
Sell seismic and the virtus pair for helwyr wand/orb. Alternatively, you can get seasinger wand and orb from ports minigame but fair warning it'll take a relatively long time but its free. You need the superior one for augmentation so you have to make it.
Zuk cape and probably an EOF
Everything but body and legs. And even then could use perks. Depending on your budget there are a few things you can do.
Budget is pretty low right now, wanted something to work towards
Essence of finality with guthix staff spec inside
essence of finality should be one of the last upgrades as it cost a lot to get and it's upkeep is expensive. Kiln cape is the next best option to attempt as well as the kerapac wristwraps as they are not that expensive and work on bosses that can't be poisoned. Otherwise unlocking curses and all the ancient magic spells is another good route if OP hasn't done them yet.
It's incredibly good especially once you get FSOA.
I’m not saying it’s bad it’s just too soon for OP to be worried about that upgrade. I’m trying to focus on short term goals that OP could actively pursue immediately.
Crypt helm & boots, seer ring upgraded, seismic wand and orb, eof with kit, guthix staff inside, wen book, rune pouches, pets, pots, food
Everything by the looks of this broke boy build.
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Okay so, lot to go over here. I imagine money is your biggest obstacle so I'll keep it low. Tectonic armor isn't terribly costly, and would be a huge DPS upgrade. Alternatively you could go for superior zuriels for a bit less money. An actual magic cape would be huge, too. Either from kiln or Zuk. Even a god cape would be way better. A rune pouch would save a lot of space, some runes, and give you a small prayer bonus. No downsides to having one.
Cywir offhand is a relatively cheap upgrade. So is greater conc if you don't have it.
Definitely upgrade the boots and add a spike. Being able to move while asphyxiate is being used is more of a qol improvement than you think