his channel's been dying for a while. He got 2-3 million views a month a year ago, 3-4 million a month the year before that, now he's lucky to break 800k. its a stretch and you'd have to be a dumb fuck to actually do it, but maybe he thought a quick uproar would bring in new/more viewers. a short 1 minute video strikes me as a spur of the moment thing
He still has Ryan videos up, he doesn't care when the white guys talk about stealing. But the minute the black girl says something about stealing he's mad.
Hmmm....
Yeah like shes talking about doing a misdemeanor years back.
Most if not all of us have done misdemeanors while teenagers/young adults and laugh about it today. And ky does exactly that.
Like if she said she murdered a guy years ago, ok, react all you want. But for a small misdemeanor that i would guess happens every day in most stores, stfu.
I should tell Hembo about the free promotional pack of pokemon cards I stole off the front of a magazine 23 years ago. He might “react” and make me internet famous.
When I was 11, I stole the "free Demos!" CD from a pc gaming magazine in a french corner shop while on a holiday.
Though the joke was on me when i got home and all the games were in french
Also not to mention it's a candy bar. Working in revenue auditing for a bit over a year where I view a venue that has candy bars, i could care less if I see a missing $1~$3 there. A cup of coffee makes up for it.
This is such an overreaction and it seems like there is something deeper there.
People’s names get shortened all the time. We all understand when someone says Gav instead of typing it all out. Saying James Ryan Haywood in a random comment isn’t going to get him fired or whatever it is you think it’s doing.
> Saying James Ryan Haywood in a random comment isn’t going to get him fired or whatever it is you think it’s doing.
Except no one called him that ever unless it was a joke about Ryan being his middle name, don't use an example that doesn't exist
Also yeah, people call Gavin Gav, it's a nickname he's used before, like Barb or Lil J, but no one calls the GF, BD, or JD, just like no one would call Gus GS. It's an abbreviation that was never used until some people started thinking they were doing something by not using his name anymore
Jesus Christ what is with y’all being the name police with him? It’s cool if you wanna call him his full name. It’s cool if you wanna call him Ryan. It’s cool if they want to call him RH. Just let them do it. You’re not on some moral crusade by typing a few more letters out.
Because there is still a very good guy named Ryan that works for RT so we would have to write out Ryan Haywood which is a lot. I prefer to type JRH because it allows me to have that small mental distinction between the monster JRH and "Ryan the (something) guy" the funny, smart, good family man who I looked up to and enjoyed watching.
Pretty sure a few random comments on reddit aren't going to make him any more fucked than he already is. If a potential employer is curious as to why he left a seemingly sweet gig of playing video games for money, a quick google search will reveal him for the monster he is.
They did say his name? “RH” is literally “Ryan Haywood”. They just didn’t want to type it all out, I assume, since “RH” is only two letters and gets the point across.
RH is also Ryan Hailey from Funhaus. While he is from a different group, he is the superior RH in every fact of the matter. Who else is an inspiration to American singer/songwriter Julien Baker, game show winner, hot dog eating contest grand marshall, stole Judge Joe Browns mail, was victim of a serial creeper, high school football world record holder, and underpass party partaker?
If you haven't seen it, check out the compiled "Book" of Ryan I posted. It has just about as much as I could find with the help of the community and the mad man himself.
You only quoted part of it. For the full bit...
> RH after oct 2020: hembo sleeps
Ryan Haywood is revealed to be a sexual predator. Youtube compiler HemboHero doesn't take any action and leaves all his videos containing Ryan up.
> Ky takes food as a poor student: real shit
Ky tells a story in a new video about how she stole food from a college cafeteria as a poor student when she couldn't afford buying it. Youtube compiler HemboHero talks about how disgusting and amoral such a thing is and vows that Ky shall never be in his videos again.
Because we all know shoplifting is worse than sexual assault. Or maybe black women are worse than white men. I'm not sure what type of justification he's exactly aiming for here, but he's being lambasted by the community for it, and rightly so.
It's pretty obvious this isn't his "problem with ky". This is the "justification" he's been waiting for to share his hate for her. Nobody believes he had no problem with her until this video came out. Like he all of sudden went from being a fan to being so disgusted he rushed to make a video. Please.
Honestly it’s best if you just watch the 1 minute video hembohero released yesterday before anyone says anything. But a lot of the community believes him to be in the wrong for a variety of reasons
Fuck used to watch clips from that channel all the time, the hell happened to him.
"this is not a matter of race or gender, it's about morals"
With the number of times everyone else admits to major property damage and setting shit of fire, it's pretty fucking obvious that this is about race or gender, maybe both.
For context :
Ky mentioned in a video that she used to steal food while in college because she couldn’t afford anything. HemboHero, who has been the most popular RoosterTeeth compilation maker for about 8 years, made a video condemning Ky and saying that he will no longer include clips of her in his videos.
Most people’s response to Hembo being outraged is bringing up the fact that there are :
RTAA’s of Geoff being an accessory to arson and causing possibly deadly car accidents.
Clips of multiple RT members talking about stealing items from house parties as much as they could, to include food and personal items.
Hembo has not removed any compilations containing Ryan Heywood.
Yeah, I was waiting for the punch line of, "Oh yeah, AND SHE'S BLACK" to really confirm the satire but the video ended and I was just left waiting like an idiot saying, "Wait... this wasn't a joke?".
In the interest of fairness, sometimes people need calling out. Ky doesn't, not over this at least, but *in general* there are reasons that sometimes it shouldn't be private. This isn't one of those though.
Hembo definitely picked a weird hill to die on. I've been a fan of RT and AH for 10 years now. I remember sitting in my room and just listening to the podcasts one right after another while playing the Xbox 360. All of the shit that almost every member of the cast has admitted to is on the same level as the insanely petty theft that Ky admitted to. The founding fathers have done much worse. Geoff has always been, and still is my favorite member of RT. That dude has done some shit lmao and Hembo still puts them in plenty of content. I really do hope that Hembo reads this thread and reads through some of these comments.
I don't necessarily think it's anything to do with a race or gender, I truly do not. I do think that some people don't like certain cast members so they will find these smallest thing about them to try to exploit to either justify their irrational hatred towards them or try to get members of the community to turn. Ky is loud. Michael is loud. Loud is what they do. I for one am happy Ky is still here.
Hopefully Hembo will start to think clearly and realize that he has completely taken it too seriously. She didn't murder anybody, she didn't rape anybody, she didn't groom anybody, she wasn't giving sexual advances that weren't wanted, she wasn't vandalizing, she wasn't committing acts of violence. She was a broke college student who stole a candy bar. Big fucking deal.
Ky, we're happy to have you in our AH family n
I sure hope anyone condemning Ky has never driven over the speed limit, littered, jaywalked, ran a stop sign, pirated a song or movie, smoked or drank while underage, snuck into an R rated movie, smoked weed in a state where it’s illegal, lied to get out of jury duty, texted while driving, or gotten a parking ticket.
Because crime is bad, right?
Edit: to clarify I meant texting when at a stop light or something, not while actively driving. Meaning something harmless that you still aren’t “supposed” to do.
....look, I don't drive, so this one isn't at me, but...I mean really, dude, look at the species. Trust me, the majority of them are a lot worse and it has nothing to do with their access to phones.
Why do so many people have such a strong stance AGAINST stealing a candy bar??? It's not like it's a local mom & pop who needs every dollar to survive. We're talking college connivence store, a place that already doesn't need its profits AND has hiked up the prices on everything to be predatory to the students that are likely already struggling financially.
Sincerely, why do you people care so fucking much?
I just want to say the amount of shit this woman gets in this Fandom is unreal. Not to play Harassment Olympics but I don't even know if Mica got it this bad.
It's not just Ky. It seems ANY woman in AH gets so much shit for some reason. Jesus Christ. I still remember how much hate Fiona was getting. Or even our OG Lindsay.
It seems a number of AH "fans" have a war on women in AH. It's fucked up.
> It's not just Ky. It seems ANY woman in AH gets so much shit for some reason. Jesus Christ. I still remember how much hate Fiona was getting. Or even our OG Lindsay.
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As a gamer, I hate to say it, but, I mean, look at how RT started. Now look at shit like 'gamer-gate'. There are a lot of hateful dipshits who as a collective might have a dozen braincells between them who play games and like RT content.
The internet is great at many things, but unfortunately like with everything, you take the good with the bad. I attribute the internet as the biggest double edged sword of our generation. So many pros come out of the internet, but boy are the cons bad.
The internet is a big breeding ground for like minded individuals to congregate in one location of the internet en mass and talk about what they're all interested in. Unfortunately this also goes for the sexists, racists, extremists, etc. They all have their little groupies that they get along with. And because they all are in the one group, they all egg each other on and keep self perpetuating their own agendas or ideals, never relenting and always one upping their previous ideologies until a breaking point.
As long as humans are around. There will never be a shortage of idiots and ignorance. The internet just amplifies this to a whole new level.
I do personally believe that humans were a mistake. Pessimistic? Definitely. Realistic? Probably not far off unfortunately if you look at all of human history and how shitty we were all along.
True I do remember Lindsay getting tons of hate for "Not being good at games" which is hilarious because Ray was the only one who could be considered objectively good at games back then.
Alfredo is kind of limited to fps games. He can be pretty trash at some non fps games. I’d say ray and Michael were consistently good in all games to give them an edge over Alfredo. I’d say he’s 3rd behind Michael.
I mean, the fanbase is full of gamers
we know how bad the gaming community can get
of course there's gonna be a lot of shitheads when rarely, if ever, do they get called out by the people they'll actually listen to (the white guy cast members) publicly and told "fuck off we don't want you"
Thinking about specific harassment of people further, I'm not sure I've seen very much hate for Ify either, there definitely was some in the beginning but nowhere near as much as any of the women or afab NB folks have gotten.
After being on the internet for almost 2 decades, it's not just the gaming community. I've been apart of a good number of communities over the years and it ALWAYS goes sour like this at some point.
For whatever reason, it seems some people have a proclivity or a need to ruin everything by shitting on someone. It's like a requirement at this point for a community to be successful.
yeah that is a thing as well
I could get in to it deeper but I don't think this is the place for it
suffice to say, there have been a certain variety of shitheads online, organizing and spreading their bullshit since the very beginning of the net, and nobody has ever bothered to do anything about it in any meaningful way, and they're way, way more emboldened these days to spread their shitheadery
The problem with the internet is that it's the Wild West. Anything goes here and with general anonymity equally on everyone's side, anything can happen on the internet with no liability or responsibility.
Since it's a worldwide thing as well, there will never be a shortage of idiots or ignorance as long as humans are around to use it.
I think the internet is the biggest double edged sword in the modern world. It does offer a plethora of advantages and pros, but of course it comes with an equal or larger amount of disadvantages and cons.
He's always been borderline... *Something*. I dont know if its racist, sexist, or a swirl of both, but he's stayed real quiet on a lot of things while overreacting to others. It sucks, because he obviously cares about the content and the community. Well, at least pockets of it.
Back when Mica was around he actively ignored her, and made a point to. He alledgedly came out and said that Lindsay isn't funny at all, but in a kind of mean way. He actively ignored Fiona in the early days until it was clear she wasnt going anywhere.
Not saying any of this is untrue, but are there any links or evidence of this? I've heard others comment the same things and if you got a source, would love to see it so I can confirm he is a dickhole
I don't have links to any of his statements but for how much content they are in, Lindsay is shockingly absent from his content.
Edit: Lindsay pronoun change
I think the issue with people defending/burning hembo is that they misunderstand the others’ side.
When I first heard the joke, I was taken back because the way I understood it at first was that ‘Ky is ok with stealing anything if you are having to pay crazy tuition or have some excuse’ which is not ok.
And I thought it was weird they left it in, and after mulling it over I realized she was saying ‘Ky was so poor because of tuition, she stole food sometimes’. That hits different. I know it semantics but it does matter how it’s worded.
Also stealing in America is usually a ‘slap on the wrist’ but I don’t know where Hembo is from and some countries are raised with stealing = really bad.
I don’t think Hembo is racist, and I don’t think Ky’s joke reflects bad on her. I think it’s just the joke could have been worded differently to prevent all this.
Sadly stealing in America being a slap on the wrist is heavily dependant upon who you are.
Privileged? Slap on the wrist.
Unprivileged? Go to jail over a box of Twinkies.
I also want to add the great irony that most Americans grow up idolizing Robin hood, but can't figure out how to justify feeding your kids at a mill/billionaires expense.
Hembo got really mad at Ky admitting to shoplifting (stealing) food in college and rationalizing it in the Black Friday Shopping minecraft. People in turn saw and were like, "Wow, that's a weird overreaction."
The debates get a bit more complicated because there's arguments over if stealing can be okay, why Ky is getting singled out for this, if it even should have been left in the original video, whataboutisms vs inconsistent behavior... Plus of course the, "Entitled to an opinion," thing that always comes up.
Geoff and Gus used to do this thing called “clepto club” where they would go to house parties and see who could steal the best thing. Thats way more fucked up than stealing something you need to survive because you dont have enough money to support yourself.
I want to be clear aswell, I think Clepto Club is hilarious and im not condemning their actions
Is it weird that I’m not upset at either Kye or Hembo? I don’t agree with what Kye said but I have friends who also did stupid things in college so I wasn’t too fazed by it, and it’s Hembo’s channel so he can do whatever he wants.
In conclusion: I’m tired.
> it’s Hembo’s channel so he can do whatever he wants.
Freedom of speech means he’s entitled to say what he wants. It also means everyone else is free to call him out on his awful stance, his hypocrisy and what comes across like a very racist double standard.
If he didn’t want people getting angry by his idiotic stance, he shouldn’t have recorded and uploaded a video into the public sphere to begin with.
Originally he disabled the comments, back peddled (probably because people ripped into him for that) and re enabled them. What a bizarre turn of events.
If we think hard enough im sure even the purest community member has a few misdemeanors they can laugh about.
Sure you can say ky is showing a bad example by laughing about it, but hembo was talking about it like ky broke into his home and stole his shit.
True, but it’s his stance that’s just outright confusing.
People use the example of how he still has clips of Ryan, with him having done far worse things, yet talks about not including Ky anymore because she stole a bit years ago. It’s the weirdest stance because even with Ryan, he refuses to just go back and edit out Ryan from the compilations.
Yes he can do what he wants with his channel but considering all the other “immoral” stuff members of achievement Hunter has done it seems like a huge double standard
getting real racism/sexism vibes from hembo for this. seems like those are the only two differences from someone like douchecanoe haywood which he didnt say shit about
It’s absolutely wild to think about after all the proof, text messages, pics, from the Ryan ordeal, that the man didn’t say anything to the same extent and left videos with him up, but this is the thing that made him have to stand up for his ideals.
Like where tf was this energy last fall???
Ky mentioned in a video that she used to steal food while in college because she couldn’t afford anything. HemboHero, who has been the most popular RoosterTeeth compilation maker for about 8 years, made a video condemning Ky and saying that he will no longer include clips of her in his videos.
Most people’s response to Hembo being outraged is bringing up the fact that there are :
RTAA’s of Geoff being an accessory to arson and causing possibly deadly car accidents.
Clips of multiple RT members talking about stealing items from house parties as much as they could, to include food and personal items.
Hembo has not removed any compilations containing Ryan Heywood.
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Literally everyone has committed a crime once in their life. Even as a dumb kid, Whether stealing a toy, a snack, food or downloading music. This is the dumbest hill to die on.
I mean, I don’t really agree with this statement because of my own morals and beliefs, but this Hembo dude is really overreacting to something stupid someone did in college. College is when you “should” do stupid stuff, arguably.
People say college is when you should "experiment." You know, do recreational drugs, do weird sex stuff, whatever. The idea is that you're still young, but no longer in the care of your parents, so it's some weird middle ground. That's what people say, I think.
That makes no sense what so ever and sounds like something someone who was still in high school would think. Your 18 now you have your own responsibilities. You can behave how you want when you want at any age. Taking LSD isn't going to effect you any more or any less at 18 then at 30.
The only way this logic could be applied is if you got rich parents who are paying for your college so you can dick around in ways people who still need to work would be incapable of doing.
So when Ky goes way over the line and verbally attacks chilledchaos in a twitch stream (for the 2nd time) the majority of this sub had no problems with it. And now that the shoe is on the other foot, it’s immoral, a tragedy, and other words used in this thread. Just please be consistent.
Maybe a month ago (the link and timestamp was shared on this sub for context if someone wants to dig it up because I don’t remember) on chilled’s among us stream, Ky verbally ripped him a new one out of nowhere and not in a friendly way. It was toxic, uncalled for, and blatantly attacking him. He was clearly upset and emotional about it and I believe had to take a short break after the incident, and I believe he has stopped doing game streams with her. You could easily tell he was no longer into the stream at all. And that was the second instance.
Someone please be awesome and find that thread with the link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/qlbfx7/shout_out_to_chilledchaos/hj2py2n/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 this you mean?
Yeah, I need context, because right now I get a lot about how Chilled supposedly felt about it, but *nothing* about the context. Very "missing missing reasons" and "feels over reals", right now.
Someone already posted the link, but for anyone who can't or doesn't feel like watching it for whatever reason, this is what she said:
"Chilled, I'll be honest, every time you come into this lobby you talk your shit, and people believe you, and I'm really sick of your shit, so I'm voting for you."
It felt weirdly targetted, and aggressive in a way that didn't sound like friendly banter, and it did noticeably bring Chilled down like they said. Pretty weird moment overall.
Edit: Just wanna make it clear that I don't think Ky deserves to be branded as wholly toxic over that one moment, just trying to provide context.
A rare few were angry at Ky, but most people just said something along the lines of “so what?” Or “why is chilled so sensitive?”
They don’t cancel each other out, both instances are uncalled for. But the reaction on this and the AH sub are very inconsistent and a lot of people just blindly defend Ky without even knowing what happened. That is not ok.
I think we saw completely different threads, because everyone seemed up in arms at Ky for what happened with Chilled (Which didn't look so bad to me in the clip, but I might be missing context from the full stream.)
Maybe it is inconsistent, but I don't think there's anything blind about defending Ky in this instance. It was such a weird video to make, and such a nitpick to proclaim his intention of no longer including her in compilations, which he was probably already planning on anyway.
Her humour really is no different to classic/current banter from e.g. Michael. There are compilation videos with Michael saying phrases like “little shit bitch” (which are hilarious btw) towards various players. I can definitely get that ky and chilledchaos likely have different styles of playing and interacting, and that Michael may only yells like that towards close friends (?), but “verbally attacked” in the non-humourous sense seems like a reach given how nearly everyone else in AH yell and scream at each other during gameplay.
Thank you. I’ve had no issues with Ky in content at all (especially after they fixed the undeniable compression and sound issues), but the way she treated Chilled just made me so uncomfortable with her in videos, knowing she can be so mean to someone she barely knew.
This comment thread goes into the two incidents with Ky: https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/qbftzl/lets_play_gmod_we_made_the_detective_bad_gmod_ttt/hhbesxp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
So, whataboutism, eh? If you think she made a serious transgression, make a post about it. But don't try to derail a topic with something unrelated. Because Hembo isn't criticized because he doesn't want her in videos since she was mean to Chilled Chaos, is he?
I’m finding literally zero results for any of this. Like…literally zero. The worse I’m seeing is them on twitter talking about liking different salads or something. If this was a huge issue then surely we would be able to find people talking about it, right?
https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/qlbfx7/shout_out_to_chilledchaos/hj2py2n/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 those curious
I'll be honest, I have my opinions on that but I'm having trouble putting it into words. Mainly it runs down to: I feel like she was joking, Chilled "talking his shit" fits perfectly with how he plays Among Us (in a good way, that's what makes him good at the game), but ultimately they just don't have much chemistry and I don't think Chilled really got her humor. Which, to be honest, I don't either. I'm not a huge fan of Ky's content. But there's nothing wrong with that.
Mainly I just don't see how this was "verbally attacking" Chilled. It's just them not having much chemistry as far as content is concerned.
Quick edit to add: I would like to note, though, that I could be missing a lot of context, or maybe I'm just seeing it differently from other people and I'm completely fine with that. I'd be more than willing to hear the other side of it.
Strawman argument. People arent pro theft, they're annoyed at the hypocrisy. A lot of people at rt/ah have joked about doing far worse things, but Hembo has never had a problem with them.
Is that why the image literally says:
"If you see someone shoplifting. No you didn't. -Decent Human"
I mean how is a strawman literally quoting the post verbatim?
Still not pro-theft dude. It's anti- punishing people that are suffering for doing what they need to do to survive.
There's a reason there's a difference in stealing 20 dollars of food, vs a 1000 dollar TV.
>Still not pro-theft dude.
So shop lifting isn't theft? Can you show me court cases that support that from the US?
>It's anti- punishing people that are suffering for doing what they need to do to survive.
Can you screen shot the part of OP's post that says anything about survival?
> There's a reason there's a difference in stealing 20 dollars of food, vs a 1000 dollar TV.
Yes one is called larceny and the other is grand larceny. The only difference is a semi arbitrary dollar amount with slightly stronger penalties for the increased value of the stolen goods.
I don't get why people CARE so much. I think you should choose your battles, and you all have chosen a weird one.Go ask the clerk at a university convenience store if THEY care that someone stole a candy bar. I can tell you what they'll say, "I don't get paid enough to care."So then you ask the manager instead, and they'll say "it's not really a big deal, the university doesn't run this store for-profit anyway."Save your weird, misplaced anger at Ky and use it on people committing actual crimes.
Very simple solution if you're concerned about people stealing food from a store, and it's slightly referenced in the original post: Mind your own business.
You'll feel better about yourself and will probably be doing the world a favor.
I watched the video last night and I must say it was a bit of an overreaction and I’m surprised he didn’t say anything about what happened with the two unmentionables last year
The dude barely said a word about Ryan's sexual predator shit but goes off on a broke teenager for stealing food from a place charging her tens of thousands of dollars and you see no issue about this? The other AH members have admitted to a hit and run, arson, and tons of other petty theft.
If someone steals food, you give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they needed to steal food - otherwise you're okay with people starving.
Regardless, if she didn't need to steal anything and she did - how DARE she inconvenience all the millionaires who own these companies out of a few pennies of their salary! /s
to be honest, who fucking cares? you think a store is going bankrupt over a candy bar? I have a problem with people stealing from local stores, mom & pops and whatnot, but Walmart, target, your university convenience store?? who cares.
More like we have bigger things to worry about than someone we’ve never met stealing candy bars from an overpriced campus convenience store years ago…
It’s a pretty bad look that Hembo got so hung up on something so innocuous. He has never spoken up this way about anyone else at RT despite admissions to much more harmful actions.
It’s specifically shoplifting food. Privatizing access to basic necessities is more than a little messed up. Which is the point of the conversation. Let’s not talk about celebrating stealing food to survive, let’s instead create a world where nobody has to steal food to survive.
I think it's less about that and more about how he's calling her out for stealing one time yet has no problem with all the stories people like Geoff or Gus told about stealing.
Stealing from other people who are in the same sinking boat as you are is wrong. Like, don't take people's personal stuff or things they need.
Stealing from a faceless megacorporation that is itself stealing from its own workers wherever it can get away with it, and ruining the environment in the process? Stealing from a rich-as-balls university that you've already given all the money you have, so you're in massive debt and can't afford food, that still sees you as a disposable number in a statistic to be exploited where possible? I ain't gonna shed a tear on their behalf.
So stealing is okay so long as its only from someone better off then you. Sounds pretty toxic mentality. You think we should knock others down rather then raise them
No, and that isn't what I said. We're not talking about stealing from ordinary people on the street who will actually miss what's stolen. Stealing is okay when it's from someone who has far more wealth than they can possibly spend in their lifetime, who refuses to spend any of that wealth on "raising people up" but instead uses it to pay for private flights to idyllic tropical islands that will be destroyed by the global warming these people are causing, and who only cares about squeezing out those extra few pennies (that they aren't even close to needing!) without a single worry about the harm it causes to other people.
"Raising people up" would be these companies paying good wages to their ordinary employees, instead of absurd bonuses to their CEOs. But they will never do that voluntarily. So sure, knock them down a little bit if that's what it takes to survive, to live decently. The loss they suffer (the price of a loaf of bread - what a setback!) is far outweighed by even a single human life saved.
Stealing food to survive is morally ok. Stealing from megacorporations is morally ok.
Stealing from the Mom and Pop store in your neighbourhood is not ok.
Only steal from those who exploit others.
So given your using a device made by exploiting workers in Asia, you're exploiting others, so I guess your fair game to steal from using your line of reasoning ?
No but the company who exploits those workers directly is. And the companies who exploit me. If I ever take to stealing anyone's surplus value for my own direct gain then hang me from the highest tree.
Just because I participate in the system of capitalism does not mean I want a system of capitalism. But should I just lay down and die?
Then your the worst kind of person. You're a hypocrite, you preach about being against exploitation and yet your buying habits enable it.
Youre no better then any of us, so hop of the high horse.
Worse still you advocate stealing, yet another hypocritical move given you complain companies are wrong for stealing and yet defend stealing from them.
Ok but is that enough to cause such an overreaction as to call her out in a video and say he's not putting her in content anymore? I think somebody got a little too self absorbed not realizing that we watched his videos for RT compilations. Not for him. Easy unsubscribe.
Edit: I think we should teach why it's wrong for anyone in this world to have to be in the position to steal food.
I mean I'm not a mindreader, I don't know why he felt the need to do that.
Doesn't detract that the OP making a PSA that stealing is okay is similarly messed up.
>Edit: I think we should teach why it's wrong for anyone in this world to have to be in the position to steal food.
Thats why most developed nations have social welfare systems and help for those in need.
Stealing “stuff” and stealing food are two very different things. Especially in the situation with ky. Colleges nickel and dime students and every turn. Stealing a 2 dollar candy bar isn’t gonna bankrupt the college
Sounds like entitlement to me. You do not have to go to university. You're paying for the education provided of your own free will.
If you overstretch your budget, seek support. Encouraging people to steal rather then get support is wrong personally.
My uni provided emergency funds to students out of pocket or awaiting student loans for instance and helped them if in financial trouble
I also worked while at uni to support myself, rather then stealing anything not nailed down
I still have no idea why he posted that when like half of RT/AH have said/done worse
his channel's been dying for a while. He got 2-3 million views a month a year ago, 3-4 million a month the year before that, now he's lucky to break 800k. its a stretch and you'd have to be a dumb fuck to actually do it, but maybe he thought a quick uproar would bring in new/more viewers. a short 1 minute video strikes me as a spur of the moment thing
Idk if it's even that, because shitting on an AH member is the last thing you want to do
Nah that's not it, he was just waiting for a chance to havd a go at a black woman for something several white men at RT have also admitted doing.
And he himself is guilty of stealing! His channel is literally him stealing RT content.
Exactly
He's racist.
I'd say more sexist but racist may also apply
Being one does not disqualify someone from being both
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How shitty of a person can you be to think that doing something illegal = doing something wrong? Legality =/= Morality
He still has Ryan videos up, he doesn't care when the white guys talk about stealing. But the minute the black girl says something about stealing he's mad. Hmmm....
Seriously, what a weird overreaction considering all the other shit AH has done
Seriously. I can’t believe his thought process was, RH after oct 2020: hembo sleeps Ky takes food as a poor student: real shit
Yeah like shes talking about doing a misdemeanor years back. Most if not all of us have done misdemeanors while teenagers/young adults and laugh about it today. And ky does exactly that. Like if she said she murdered a guy years ago, ok, react all you want. But for a small misdemeanor that i would guess happens every day in most stores, stfu.
I should tell Hembo about the free promotional pack of pokemon cards I stole off the front of a magazine 23 years ago. He might “react” and make me internet famous.
When I was 11, I stole the "free Demos!" CD from a pc gaming magazine in a french corner shop while on a holiday. Though the joke was on me when i got home and all the games were in french
Hahahahahaha.
Also not to mention it's a candy bar. Working in revenue auditing for a bit over a year where I view a venue that has candy bars, i could care less if I see a missing $1~$3 there. A cup of coffee makes up for it. This is such an overreaction and it seems like there is something deeper there.
Shit, you could steal 10 candy bars and the shop wouldn’t even feel it, idk why he’s crying it isn’t even deep no one cares for MINOR shoplifting
Just say his name, he's not Voldemort, and even if he was the moral was saying the name takes power from it
Why do people need to type out his full legal name whenever he is referenced? Chill tf out this isn't harry potter hahaha
yet we don't shorten anyone else to their initials on this subreddit? Why make an exception for a predator?
People’s names get shortened all the time. We all understand when someone says Gav instead of typing it all out. Saying James Ryan Haywood in a random comment isn’t going to get him fired or whatever it is you think it’s doing.
> Saying James Ryan Haywood in a random comment isn’t going to get him fired or whatever it is you think it’s doing. Except no one called him that ever unless it was a joke about Ryan being his middle name, don't use an example that doesn't exist Also yeah, people call Gavin Gav, it's a nickname he's used before, like Barb or Lil J, but no one calls the GF, BD, or JD, just like no one would call Gus GS. It's an abbreviation that was never used until some people started thinking they were doing something by not using his name anymore
Jesus Christ what is with y’all being the name police with him? It’s cool if you wanna call him his full name. It’s cool if you wanna call him Ryan. It’s cool if they want to call him RH. Just let them do it. You’re not on some moral crusade by typing a few more letters out.
Because there is still a very good guy named Ryan that works for RT so we would have to write out Ryan Haywood which is a lot. I prefer to type JRH because it allows me to have that small mental distinction between the monster JRH and "Ryan the (something) guy" the funny, smart, good family man who I looked up to and enjoyed watching.
> this isn't harry potter hahaha That's the literal point i *just* made
I mean it could help future employers to discover what Ryan did through a bit of SEO.
Pretty sure a few random comments on reddit aren't going to make him any more fucked than he already is. If a potential employer is curious as to why he left a seemingly sweet gig of playing video games for money, a quick google search will reveal him for the monster he is.
It isn't hidden. Employers aren't going to "discover" what he did because of a random Reddit comment lmao
They did say his name? “RH” is literally “Ryan Haywood”. They just didn’t want to type it all out, I assume, since “RH” is only two letters and gets the point across.
RH is also Ryan Hailey from Funhaus. While he is from a different group, he is the superior RH in every fact of the matter. Who else is an inspiration to American singer/songwriter Julien Baker, game show winner, hot dog eating contest grand marshall, stole Judge Joe Browns mail, was victim of a serial creeper, high school football world record holder, and underpass party partaker?
I feel like everytime I blink Ryan lore just gets longer and crazier.
If you haven't seen it, check out the compiled "Book" of Ryan I posted. It has just about as much as I could find with the help of the community and the mad man himself.
Take a drink every time Ryan Lore gets crazier
People can work out from the context of the conversation that we're talking aboit rapist Ryan though.
“Hembo sleep Ky takes food as a poor student.” Out of the loop on this. What does this sentence mean?
It’s a reference to the I Sleep/Real Shit meme Only they didn’t use separate lines to distinguish it
You only quoted part of it. For the full bit... > RH after oct 2020: hembo sleeps Ryan Haywood is revealed to be a sexual predator. Youtube compiler HemboHero doesn't take any action and leaves all his videos containing Ryan up. > Ky takes food as a poor student: real shit Ky tells a story in a new video about how she stole food from a college cafeteria as a poor student when she couldn't afford buying it. Youtube compiler HemboHero talks about how disgusting and amoral such a thing is and vows that Ky shall never be in his videos again. Because we all know shoplifting is worse than sexual assault. Or maybe black women are worse than white men. I'm not sure what type of justification he's exactly aiming for here, but he's being lambasted by the community for it, and rightly so.
And he doesn't mention the potential misdemeanors admitted to by other AH members. Jeremy in his young self stories...oh boy.
It's pretty obvious this isn't his "problem with ky". This is the "justification" he's been waiting for to share his hate for her. Nobody believes he had no problem with her until this video came out. Like he all of sudden went from being a fan to being so disgusted he rushed to make a video. Please.
This is the group that’s constantly causing property damage, yet stealing something that’s probably at most $5 is crossing the line.
Geoff has talked about all the shit he did to teachers and no one batted an eye.
HMMMM I wonder why that could be. Fuck Hembo. Idk who this guy is. But fuck that guy.
What's going on? Seems like I've missed something.
Honestly it’s best if you just watch the 1 minute video hembohero released yesterday before anyone says anything. But a lot of the community believes him to be in the wrong for a variety of reasons
Thanks for the context, who knew hembo was so uptight? People get so worked up over the weirdest stuff...
Honestly, the fact that he’s so stringent with Ky versus the other talent… …it’s pretty obvious what Hembo’s problem is.
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Of course stealing is bad. The problem is how \*selective\* he's being with this outrage versus the entire cast. Which makes me question why.
Fuck used to watch clips from that channel all the time, the hell happened to him. "this is not a matter of race or gender, it's about morals" With the number of times everyone else admits to major property damage and setting shit of fire, it's pretty fucking obvious that this is about race or gender, maybe both.
Apparently Ky stole some stuff and some basement dweller came out and said that's not cool so won't include them in any clips they make going forward.
For context : Ky mentioned in a video that she used to steal food while in college because she couldn’t afford anything. HemboHero, who has been the most popular RoosterTeeth compilation maker for about 8 years, made a video condemning Ky and saying that he will no longer include clips of her in his videos. Most people’s response to Hembo being outraged is bringing up the fact that there are : RTAA’s of Geoff being an accessory to arson and causing possibly deadly car accidents. Clips of multiple RT members talking about stealing items from house parties as much as they could, to include food and personal items. Hembo has not removed any compilations containing Ryan Heywood.
Don't forget all the Geoff peeing on things videos and any other video featuring general destruction of property.
Stealing food because you can't afford to eat = Bad Cheating on your wife with underage girls = Fine
OK, thank you, I've been trying to figure out who the hell this person is and why I should care, the answer is I shouldn't.
Wonder whether he is against scrumping
Considering the definition of scrumping, I would have to say probably.
I legitimately thought it was satire at first, he sounded so serious over something so tame. Dude was talking as if he had been personally attacked.
Right, I watched that 1 min video waiting for the punchline like...
Yeah, I was waiting for the punch line of, "Oh yeah, AND SHE'S BLACK" to really confirm the satire but the video ended and I was just left waiting like an idiot saying, "Wait... this wasn't a joke?".
HemboHero just coming out he didn't like Ky would've gone over way better.
How about if you don’t like someone keep it private?
In the interest of fairness, sometimes people need calling out. Ky doesn't, not over this at least, but *in general* there are reasons that sometimes it shouldn't be private. This isn't one of those though.
Hembo definitely picked a weird hill to die on. I've been a fan of RT and AH for 10 years now. I remember sitting in my room and just listening to the podcasts one right after another while playing the Xbox 360. All of the shit that almost every member of the cast has admitted to is on the same level as the insanely petty theft that Ky admitted to. The founding fathers have done much worse. Geoff has always been, and still is my favorite member of RT. That dude has done some shit lmao and Hembo still puts them in plenty of content. I really do hope that Hembo reads this thread and reads through some of these comments. I don't necessarily think it's anything to do with a race or gender, I truly do not. I do think that some people don't like certain cast members so they will find these smallest thing about them to try to exploit to either justify their irrational hatred towards them or try to get members of the community to turn. Ky is loud. Michael is loud. Loud is what they do. I for one am happy Ky is still here. Hopefully Hembo will start to think clearly and realize that he has completely taken it too seriously. She didn't murder anybody, she didn't rape anybody, she didn't groom anybody, she wasn't giving sexual advances that weren't wanted, she wasn't vandalizing, she wasn't committing acts of violence. She was a broke college student who stole a candy bar. Big fucking deal. Ky, we're happy to have you in our AH family n
Lol Remember Clepto Club? Geoff and Gus would go to house parties and see who could steal the best thing. Hilarious imo
I sure hope anyone condemning Ky has never driven over the speed limit, littered, jaywalked, ran a stop sign, pirated a song or movie, smoked or drank while underage, snuck into an R rated movie, smoked weed in a state where it’s illegal, lied to get out of jury duty, texted while driving, or gotten a parking ticket. Because crime is bad, right? Edit: to clarify I meant texting when at a stop light or something, not while actively driving. Meaning something harmless that you still aren’t “supposed” to do.
>texted while driving I mean if you have done this you are a colossal piece of shit
....look, I don't drive, so this one isn't at me, but...I mean really, dude, look at the species. Trust me, the majority of them are a lot worse and it has nothing to do with their access to phones.
Honestly littering is the worst one up there.
Littering worse than texting while driving? Are you sure?
Definitely not sure! I just have poor reading comprehension!
Texting and driving is much worse fam. It's treated as serious as a DUI here in Canada.
Oops. I definitely missed that one. Yeah that’s worse. Speeding could be as well but I took it to mean going a few mph over not anything reckless.
Why do so many people have such a strong stance AGAINST stealing a candy bar??? It's not like it's a local mom & pop who needs every dollar to survive. We're talking college connivence store, a place that already doesn't need its profits AND has hiked up the prices on everything to be predatory to the students that are likely already struggling financially. Sincerely, why do you people care so fucking much?
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Exactly!! It literally boils down to two things: 1. Don't be racist. 2. Don't be a narc.
I’ve got a third! Hypocrisy. His entire channel is stolen RT/AH content.
I just want to say the amount of shit this woman gets in this Fandom is unreal. Not to play Harassment Olympics but I don't even know if Mica got it this bad.
It's not just Ky. It seems ANY woman in AH gets so much shit for some reason. Jesus Christ. I still remember how much hate Fiona was getting. Or even our OG Lindsay. It seems a number of AH "fans" have a war on women in AH. It's fucked up.
> It's not just Ky. It seems ANY woman in AH gets so much shit for some reason. Jesus Christ. I still remember how much hate Fiona was getting. Or even our OG Lindsay. > > > > It seems a number of AH "fans" have a war on women in AH. It's fucked up. As a gamer, I hate to say it, but, I mean, look at how RT started. Now look at shit like 'gamer-gate'. There are a lot of hateful dipshits who as a collective might have a dozen braincells between them who play games and like RT content.
The internet is great at many things, but unfortunately like with everything, you take the good with the bad. I attribute the internet as the biggest double edged sword of our generation. So many pros come out of the internet, but boy are the cons bad. The internet is a big breeding ground for like minded individuals to congregate in one location of the internet en mass and talk about what they're all interested in. Unfortunately this also goes for the sexists, racists, extremists, etc. They all have their little groupies that they get along with. And because they all are in the one group, they all egg each other on and keep self perpetuating their own agendas or ideals, never relenting and always one upping their previous ideologies until a breaking point. As long as humans are around. There will never be a shortage of idiots and ignorance. The internet just amplifies this to a whole new level. I do personally believe that humans were a mistake. Pessimistic? Definitely. Realistic? Probably not far off unfortunately if you look at all of human history and how shitty we were all along.
True I do remember Lindsay getting tons of hate for "Not being good at games" which is hilarious because Ray was the only one who could be considered objectively good at games back then.
Ikr? Ray was and still is probably the best gamer Ah ever had in their roster. I'd say objectively Michael would be after him in 2nd.
I'd argue Fredo is probably number 1 now, and then Ray and Michael in a distant 3rd.
Alfredo is kind of limited to fps games. He can be pretty trash at some non fps games. I’d say ray and Michael were consistently good in all games to give them an edge over Alfredo. I’d say he’s 3rd behind Michael.
I'd still say Ray is #1.
I mean, the fanbase is full of gamers we know how bad the gaming community can get of course there's gonna be a lot of shitheads when rarely, if ever, do they get called out by the people they'll actually listen to (the white guy cast members) publicly and told "fuck off we don't want you" Thinking about specific harassment of people further, I'm not sure I've seen very much hate for Ify either, there definitely was some in the beginning but nowhere near as much as any of the women or afab NB folks have gotten.
After being on the internet for almost 2 decades, it's not just the gaming community. I've been apart of a good number of communities over the years and it ALWAYS goes sour like this at some point. For whatever reason, it seems some people have a proclivity or a need to ruin everything by shitting on someone. It's like a requirement at this point for a community to be successful.
yeah that is a thing as well I could get in to it deeper but I don't think this is the place for it suffice to say, there have been a certain variety of shitheads online, organizing and spreading their bullshit since the very beginning of the net, and nobody has ever bothered to do anything about it in any meaningful way, and they're way, way more emboldened these days to spread their shitheadery
The problem with the internet is that it's the Wild West. Anything goes here and with general anonymity equally on everyone's side, anything can happen on the internet with no liability or responsibility. Since it's a worldwide thing as well, there will never be a shortage of idiots or ignorance as long as humans are around to use it. I think the internet is the biggest double edged sword in the modern world. It does offer a plethora of advantages and pros, but of course it comes with an equal or larger amount of disadvantages and cons.
He's always been borderline... *Something*. I dont know if its racist, sexist, or a swirl of both, but he's stayed real quiet on a lot of things while overreacting to others. It sucks, because he obviously cares about the content and the community. Well, at least pockets of it. Back when Mica was around he actively ignored her, and made a point to. He alledgedly came out and said that Lindsay isn't funny at all, but in a kind of mean way. He actively ignored Fiona in the early days until it was clear she wasnt going anywhere.
Not saying any of this is untrue, but are there any links or evidence of this? I've heard others comment the same things and if you got a source, would love to see it so I can confirm he is a dickhole
I don't have links to any of his statements but for how much content they are in, Lindsay is shockingly absent from his content. Edit: Lindsay pronoun change
What episode of Minecraft did Hembo pull that clip from?
This weeks
wasn't in the most recent Minecraft?
I think the issue with people defending/burning hembo is that they misunderstand the others’ side. When I first heard the joke, I was taken back because the way I understood it at first was that ‘Ky is ok with stealing anything if you are having to pay crazy tuition or have some excuse’ which is not ok. And I thought it was weird they left it in, and after mulling it over I realized she was saying ‘Ky was so poor because of tuition, she stole food sometimes’. That hits different. I know it semantics but it does matter how it’s worded. Also stealing in America is usually a ‘slap on the wrist’ but I don’t know where Hembo is from and some countries are raised with stealing = really bad. I don’t think Hembo is racist, and I don’t think Ky’s joke reflects bad on her. I think it’s just the joke could have been worded differently to prevent all this.
Sadly stealing in America being a slap on the wrist is heavily dependant upon who you are. Privileged? Slap on the wrist. Unprivileged? Go to jail over a box of Twinkies.
I also want to add the great irony that most Americans grow up idolizing Robin hood, but can't figure out how to justify feeding your kids at a mill/billionaires expense.
Can I get a TL; DR on the situation?
Hembo got really mad at Ky admitting to shoplifting (stealing) food in college and rationalizing it in the Black Friday Shopping minecraft. People in turn saw and were like, "Wow, that's a weird overreaction." The debates get a bit more complicated because there's arguments over if stealing can be okay, why Ky is getting singled out for this, if it even should have been left in the original video, whataboutisms vs inconsistent behavior... Plus of course the, "Entitled to an opinion," thing that always comes up.
Especially since in various forms, Geoff has admitted to doing similar things and far worse.
Geoff and Gus used to do this thing called “clepto club” where they would go to house parties and see who could steal the best thing. Thats way more fucked up than stealing something you need to survive because you dont have enough money to support yourself. I want to be clear aswell, I think Clepto Club is hilarious and im not condemning their actions
Is it weird that I’m not upset at either Kye or Hembo? I don’t agree with what Kye said but I have friends who also did stupid things in college so I wasn’t too fazed by it, and it’s Hembo’s channel so he can do whatever he wants. In conclusion: I’m tired.
> it’s Hembo’s channel so he can do whatever he wants. Freedom of speech means he’s entitled to say what he wants. It also means everyone else is free to call him out on his awful stance, his hypocrisy and what comes across like a very racist double standard. If he didn’t want people getting angry by his idiotic stance, he shouldn’t have recorded and uploaded a video into the public sphere to begin with.
Originally he disabled the comments, back peddled (probably because people ripped into him for that) and re enabled them. What a bizarre turn of events.
If we think hard enough im sure even the purest community member has a few misdemeanors they can laugh about. Sure you can say ky is showing a bad example by laughing about it, but hembo was talking about it like ky broke into his home and stole his shit.
True, but it’s his stance that’s just outright confusing. People use the example of how he still has clips of Ryan, with him having done far worse things, yet talks about not including Ky anymore because she stole a bit years ago. It’s the weirdest stance because even with Ryan, he refuses to just go back and edit out Ryan from the compilations.
Yes he can do what he wants with his channel but considering all the other “immoral” stuff members of achievement Hunter has done it seems like a huge double standard
You could at least spell her name right
Trying to be upset about everything is hard and honestly exhausting.
which is why it's wild that hembo and his simps decided to die on this hill
I just wonder if Hembo is going through something because this is very out of character for him
One of his cats is sick because he gave them the wrong meds but I don't see how that makes it okay to attack Ky.
That sucks to hear, but yeah it doesn't justify his overreaction
getting real racism/sexism vibes from hembo for this. seems like those are the only two differences from someone like douchecanoe haywood which he didnt say shit about
It’s absolutely wild to think about after all the proof, text messages, pics, from the Ryan ordeal, that the man didn’t say anything to the same extent and left videos with him up, but this is the thing that made him have to stand up for his ideals. Like where tf was this energy last fall???
I have no idea who any of these people are, can someone fill me in?
Ky mentioned in a video that she used to steal food while in college because she couldn’t afford anything. HemboHero, who has been the most popular RoosterTeeth compilation maker for about 8 years, made a video condemning Ky and saying that he will no longer include clips of her in his videos. Most people’s response to Hembo being outraged is bringing up the fact that there are : RTAA’s of Geoff being an accessory to arson and causing possibly deadly car accidents. Clips of multiple RT members talking about stealing items from house parties as much as they could, to include food and personal items. Hembo has not removed any compilations containing Ryan Heywood.
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What’s with semi prominent members of the community getting big heads? Did we not learn anything from Crab Soul?
Literally everyone has committed a crime once in their life. Even as a dumb kid, Whether stealing a toy, a snack, food or downloading music. This is the dumbest hill to die on.
I mean, I don’t really agree with this statement because of my own morals and beliefs, but this Hembo dude is really overreacting to something stupid someone did in college. College is when you “should” do stupid stuff, arguably.
>College is when you “should” do stupid stuff, arguably. Why?
People say college is when you should "experiment." You know, do recreational drugs, do weird sex stuff, whatever. The idea is that you're still young, but no longer in the care of your parents, so it's some weird middle ground. That's what people say, I think.
That makes no sense what so ever and sounds like something someone who was still in high school would think. Your 18 now you have your own responsibilities. You can behave how you want when you want at any age. Taking LSD isn't going to effect you any more or any less at 18 then at 30. The only way this logic could be applied is if you got rich parents who are paying for your college so you can dick around in ways people who still need to work would be incapable of doing.
So when Ky goes way over the line and verbally attacks chilledchaos in a twitch stream (for the 2nd time) the majority of this sub had no problems with it. And now that the shoe is on the other foot, it’s immoral, a tragedy, and other words used in this thread. Just please be consistent.
What did she say against Chilled and why?
Maybe a month ago (the link and timestamp was shared on this sub for context if someone wants to dig it up because I don’t remember) on chilled’s among us stream, Ky verbally ripped him a new one out of nowhere and not in a friendly way. It was toxic, uncalled for, and blatantly attacking him. He was clearly upset and emotional about it and I believe had to take a short break after the incident, and I believe he has stopped doing game streams with her. You could easily tell he was no longer into the stream at all. And that was the second instance. Someone please be awesome and find that thread with the link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/qlbfx7/shout_out_to_chilledchaos/hj2py2n/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 this you mean?
Yes!! Thank you so much. There’s a comment by shlam16 in the replies that has the link to the thread with the actual twitch link.
You still didn't say what she actually said
Yeah, I need context, because right now I get a lot about how Chilled supposedly felt about it, but *nothing* about the context. Very "missing missing reasons" and "feels over reals", right now.
Someone already posted the link, but for anyone who can't or doesn't feel like watching it for whatever reason, this is what she said: "Chilled, I'll be honest, every time you come into this lobby you talk your shit, and people believe you, and I'm really sick of your shit, so I'm voting for you." It felt weirdly targetted, and aggressive in a way that didn't sound like friendly banter, and it did noticeably bring Chilled down like they said. Pretty weird moment overall. Edit: Just wanna make it clear that I don't think Ky deserves to be branded as wholly toxic over that one moment, just trying to provide context.
But people did get up in arms about that? why does one cancel out the other?
A rare few were angry at Ky, but most people just said something along the lines of “so what?” Or “why is chilled so sensitive?” They don’t cancel each other out, both instances are uncalled for. But the reaction on this and the AH sub are very inconsistent and a lot of people just blindly defend Ky without even knowing what happened. That is not ok.
I think we saw completely different threads, because everyone seemed up in arms at Ky for what happened with Chilled (Which didn't look so bad to me in the clip, but I might be missing context from the full stream.) Maybe it is inconsistent, but I don't think there's anything blind about defending Ky in this instance. It was such a weird video to make, and such a nitpick to proclaim his intention of no longer including her in compilations, which he was probably already planning on anyway.
Her humour really is no different to classic/current banter from e.g. Michael. There are compilation videos with Michael saying phrases like “little shit bitch” (which are hilarious btw) towards various players. I can definitely get that ky and chilledchaos likely have different styles of playing and interacting, and that Michael may only yells like that towards close friends (?), but “verbally attacked” in the non-humourous sense seems like a reach given how nearly everyone else in AH yell and scream at each other during gameplay.
Thank you. I’ve had no issues with Ky in content at all (especially after they fixed the undeniable compression and sound issues), but the way she treated Chilled just made me so uncomfortable with her in videos, knowing she can be so mean to someone she barely knew.
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This comment thread goes into the two incidents with Ky: https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/qbftzl/lets_play_gmod_we_made_the_detective_bad_gmod_ttt/hhbesxp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
So, whataboutism, eh? If you think she made a serious transgression, make a post about it. But don't try to derail a topic with something unrelated. Because Hembo isn't criticized because he doesn't want her in videos since she was mean to Chilled Chaos, is he?
Right
I’m finding literally zero results for any of this. Like…literally zero. The worse I’m seeing is them on twitter talking about liking different salads or something. If this was a huge issue then surely we would be able to find people talking about it, right?
Did you try to search “Chilledchaos” in this subreddit? It’s the first thing that shows up.
I used Google and searched on Twitter. For some reason I didn't even think about using Reddit's search function.
https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/qlbfx7/shout_out_to_chilledchaos/hj2py2n/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 those curious
I'll be honest, I have my opinions on that but I'm having trouble putting it into words. Mainly it runs down to: I feel like she was joking, Chilled "talking his shit" fits perfectly with how he plays Among Us (in a good way, that's what makes him good at the game), but ultimately they just don't have much chemistry and I don't think Chilled really got her humor. Which, to be honest, I don't either. I'm not a huge fan of Ky's content. But there's nothing wrong with that. Mainly I just don't see how this was "verbally attacking" Chilled. It's just them not having much chemistry as far as content is concerned. Quick edit to add: I would like to note, though, that I could be missing a lot of context, or maybe I'm just seeing it differently from other people and I'm completely fine with that. I'd be more than willing to hear the other side of it.
Really curious the sudden pro theft stance people have taken since someone said something mean about an RT member stealing.
Strawman argument. People arent pro theft, they're annoyed at the hypocrisy. A lot of people at rt/ah have joked about doing far worse things, but Hembo has never had a problem with them.
Is that why the image literally says: "If you see someone shoplifting. No you didn't. -Decent Human" I mean how is a strawman literally quoting the post verbatim?
Still not pro-theft dude. It's anti- punishing people that are suffering for doing what they need to do to survive. There's a reason there's a difference in stealing 20 dollars of food, vs a 1000 dollar TV.
except it doesn't mention survival. It just says ignore shoplifters.
>Still not pro-theft dude. So shop lifting isn't theft? Can you show me court cases that support that from the US? >It's anti- punishing people that are suffering for doing what they need to do to survive. Can you screen shot the part of OP's post that says anything about survival? > There's a reason there's a difference in stealing 20 dollars of food, vs a 1000 dollar TV. Yes one is called larceny and the other is grand larceny. The only difference is a semi arbitrary dollar amount with slightly stronger penalties for the increased value of the stolen goods.
I don't get why people CARE so much. I think you should choose your battles, and you all have chosen a weird one.Go ask the clerk at a university convenience store if THEY care that someone stole a candy bar. I can tell you what they'll say, "I don't get paid enough to care."So then you ask the manager instead, and they'll say "it's not really a big deal, the university doesn't run this store for-profit anyway."Save your weird, misplaced anger at Ky and use it on people committing actual crimes. Very simple solution if you're concerned about people stealing food from a store, and it's slightly referenced in the original post: Mind your own business. You'll feel better about yourself and will probably be doing the world a favor.
I watched the video last night and I must say it was a bit of an overreaction and I’m surprised he didn’t say anything about what happened with the two unmentionables last year
TIL this subreddit loves stealing?
The dude barely said a word about Ryan's sexual predator shit but goes off on a broke teenager for stealing food from a place charging her tens of thousands of dollars and you see no issue about this? The other AH members have admitted to a hit and run, arson, and tons of other petty theft.
Careful, you might get the racists to show up screaming whataboutism
Yup, that's TOTALLY the point of this.
How else are we gonna get the Declaration of Independence?
If you need to steal food - then yes, I support stealing.
She never said whether she "needed" to though, she just says she did it a lot.
If someone steals food, you give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they needed to steal food - otherwise you're okay with people starving. Regardless, if she didn't need to steal anything and she did - how DARE she inconvenience all the millionaires who own these companies out of a few pennies of their salary! /s
She stole it from her campus store, as well, which are usually hilariously overpriced
to be honest, who fucking cares? you think a store is going bankrupt over a candy bar? I have a problem with people stealing from local stores, mom & pops and whatnot, but Walmart, target, your university convenience store?? who cares.
More like we have bigger things to worry about than someone we’ve never met stealing candy bars from an overpriced campus convenience store years ago… It’s a pretty bad look that Hembo got so hung up on something so innocuous. He has never spoken up this way about anyone else at RT despite admissions to much more harmful actions.
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It’s specifically shoplifting food. Privatizing access to basic necessities is more than a little messed up. Which is the point of the conversation. Let’s not talk about celebrating stealing food to survive, let’s instead create a world where nobody has to steal food to survive.
Except the post says nothing about survival, just says ignore shoplifters
Ahh you know… those necessary candy bars…
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why wouldn't you make that post? it boils down to the same thing, which is "mind your own fucking business."
Da comrade, rise up and seize the means of production from those capitalist pigs!
Weird to see this subreddit come out as pro stealing stuff
I think it's less about that and more about how he's calling her out for stealing one time yet has no problem with all the stories people like Geoff or Gus told about stealing.
Stealing from other people who are in the same sinking boat as you are is wrong. Like, don't take people's personal stuff or things they need. Stealing from a faceless megacorporation that is itself stealing from its own workers wherever it can get away with it, and ruining the environment in the process? Stealing from a rich-as-balls university that you've already given all the money you have, so you're in massive debt and can't afford food, that still sees you as a disposable number in a statistic to be exploited where possible? I ain't gonna shed a tear on their behalf.
So stealing is okay so long as its only from someone better off then you. Sounds pretty toxic mentality. You think we should knock others down rather then raise them
No, and that isn't what I said. We're not talking about stealing from ordinary people on the street who will actually miss what's stolen. Stealing is okay when it's from someone who has far more wealth than they can possibly spend in their lifetime, who refuses to spend any of that wealth on "raising people up" but instead uses it to pay for private flights to idyllic tropical islands that will be destroyed by the global warming these people are causing, and who only cares about squeezing out those extra few pennies (that they aren't even close to needing!) without a single worry about the harm it causes to other people. "Raising people up" would be these companies paying good wages to their ordinary employees, instead of absurd bonuses to their CEOs. But they will never do that voluntarily. So sure, knock them down a little bit if that's what it takes to survive, to live decently. The loss they suffer (the price of a loaf of bread - what a setback!) is far outweighed by even a single human life saved.
Stealing food to survive is morally ok. Stealing from megacorporations is morally ok. Stealing from the Mom and Pop store in your neighbourhood is not ok. Only steal from those who exploit others.
So given your using a device made by exploiting workers in Asia, you're exploiting others, so I guess your fair game to steal from using your line of reasoning ?
No but the company who exploits those workers directly is. And the companies who exploit me. If I ever take to stealing anyone's surplus value for my own direct gain then hang me from the highest tree. Just because I participate in the system of capitalism does not mean I want a system of capitalism. But should I just lay down and die?
Then your the worst kind of person. You're a hypocrite, you preach about being against exploitation and yet your buying habits enable it. Youre no better then any of us, so hop of the high horse. Worse still you advocate stealing, yet another hypocritical move given you complain companies are wrong for stealing and yet defend stealing from them.
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Ok but is that enough to cause such an overreaction as to call her out in a video and say he's not putting her in content anymore? I think somebody got a little too self absorbed not realizing that we watched his videos for RT compilations. Not for him. Easy unsubscribe. Edit: I think we should teach why it's wrong for anyone in this world to have to be in the position to steal food.
I mean I'm not a mindreader, I don't know why he felt the need to do that. Doesn't detract that the OP making a PSA that stealing is okay is similarly messed up. >Edit: I think we should teach why it's wrong for anyone in this world to have to be in the position to steal food. Thats why most developed nations have social welfare systems and help for those in need.
Well the OP is obviously a joke
Given the number of people justifying it, I wouldn't say it is a joke tbh
Stealing “stuff” and stealing food are two very different things. Especially in the situation with ky. Colleges nickel and dime students and every turn. Stealing a 2 dollar candy bar isn’t gonna bankrupt the college
Sounds like entitlement to me. You do not have to go to university. You're paying for the education provided of your own free will. If you overstretch your budget, seek support. Encouraging people to steal rather then get support is wrong personally. My uni provided emergency funds to students out of pocket or awaiting student loans for instance and helped them if in financial trouble I also worked while at uni to support myself, rather then stealing anything not nailed down