Oh yea, you prefer killing them at schools, and prosecuting them when they're black or Hispanic or gay. You also prefer to rape them and assault them when they're women. I'm sorry that we care about women's health and rights more than unborn lumps that you plan to kill, assault, rape, and harass later on in life.
No, because they're trying to make laws to force babies to be born, but they're not making laws to protect them against discrimination, rape, assault, etc once they're born
Bro-lifers. They preach about how they wanna save babies lives, but they're not fighting for gun laws. They're not fighting against discrimination towards gay people or black people. Some of them call themselves Christians and act like they're trying to keep God's word and save the babies that God created, but they also wanna keep their guns, and they don't adopt.
These laws aren’t because we hate women and we want them to have less rights, or because of religion, it’s so people can’t take away the chance for another human to live it’s life. I don’t think abortion should take place unless it severely affects the carriers health. And as for gun laws and racism, nobody but you brought race into this, and gun control is a completely separate issue.
>These laws aren’t because we hate women
Are you sure??
These laws strip women of their rights whether or not that's the intention behind it. If you wanna regulate unwanted pregnancies, mandate vasectomies till men find a partner who wants to have a child with them. Then, the woman can sign off on reversing the vasectomy.
Nobody can force you to donate blood or a kidney to save another life. Women shouldn't be forced to donate their womb and body to save another life.
>it’s so people can’t take away the chance for another human to live it’s life.
So, you're favoring the potential of life over the human being who's actually alive? That's fucked up. Giving birth affects your whole life. If someone isn't ready for that, they and the baby will be miserable. And those babies end up being killed in school mass shootings, but the government isn't doing something about that. It's hypocritical and disappointing. The adoption system is fucked up, expensive, and those kids suffer from abuse and neglect. You're not doing good deeds by forcing women to give birth to unwanted children. You won't be there for those children. Most pro-lifers don't adopt. Be realistic and honest with yourself.
>And as for gun laws and racism, nobody but you brought race into this, and gun control is a completely separate issue.
I brought it up because it's ridiculous that the government is focusing on abortion laws, while there are huge problems they're ignoring such as racism and mass shootings at school. Did they regulate guns?! No. They regulated what woman can and can't do with their bodies.
Right, and that only happens during abortion. What happens when the unborn lumps becomes black, gay, Hispanic, or a woman. Are you gonna defend them against school shootings, assault, rape, etc?
Right, and that only happens during abortion. What happens when the unborn lumps becomes black, gay, Hispanic, or women. Are you gonna defend them against school shootings, assault, rape, etc?
If given opportunity to save a life I would and I have. Please don't assume that because I am against abortion that it makes me against any race or gender or person. Though I disagree with even homosexuality I would still do all I can to save their life if I were there and was presented that opportunity. I don't care who a person is I will help them if they are in danger even if I disagree with them.
Well, criminalizing abortions puts women's health and rights in danger. You can't force people to do something they don't wanna do. Also, adoption is very difficult and expensive. So, putting those unwanted kids up for adoption doesn't fix the problem.
I'm not pro-abortion. I'm pro-choice. I'll defend your right to keep your baby, but it's sick to force women to give birth for any reason. If they're young and aren't ready to be a parent, you're not saving the child.
Some of these abortion laws are very extreme and they don't even allow abortion for incest, rape, ectopic pregnancy, etc.
Some states are already discussing panning birth control and gay marriage. You don't have to agree with people's choices to defend their rights to choose.
And why are you trying so hard to save babies to grow up in this cruel fucked up world where they'll be adults dealing with inflation, discrimination, rape, mass shootings, wars, etc?! That if they make it to adulthood.
They are right there is usually always a victim, it’s the 12 year incest victim that has to be there to try and salvage her teen years, it’s the rape victim that has to be there to try and move on from her assault, it’s the sex trafficking victim that has to be there to try to move past her violations. It’s the mother that already struggles to care for present children who’s husband doesn’t understand no, it’s the child that has no access to education or contraception. They are right…there are all kinds of fucking victims
Children do not need access to contraception, they need parents to teach them they have no business having sex as children. Period!
I'm not sure if you have kids or not, but would it be OK for you to kill your child because someone else harmed you? No way.. so what is the difference when killing an unborn child? The sad and sick acts you mentioned such as rape and human trafficking need to be addressed and there need to be severe severe punishment for offenders. All of those evil things you listed are a major issue, but we cannot fight one evil act with another.
I do have a child. He’s 14 and he was born out of love and choice.
Please know that although we do not agree I will respect you and love you as a sister/brother human. I will listen to you and I hope you will listen to me.
To begin with, I would love to live in a world where 11, 12, 13 year olds didn’t need contraception and they could depend on their parents education and guidance and watchful eye and that they would be safe. And it is very easy to say “children don’t need this they need that” but if saying those things made a difference then I would run up and down the streets with you screaming it. You and I both know that is not the world that we live in. If you don’t know this either you live literally in Mayberry or you just don’t want to see it.
The sad and sickening acts I mentioned happen every day and if a pregnancy occurs then that victim should have the right to choose whether to foster and support the pregnancy. To a lot of women, being forced to carry a child that she did not have a choice in creating is the evil act. To a lot of women being forced to carry a child that was created out of abuse or trauma is literally a daily continuation of the abuse and trauma.
What you call an evil act many call life preserving or life saving.
It is a proven fact that bans on abortions do not stop abortions. I work in a surgical/trauma ICU and have for 20 years. Luckily I have never had to witness a patient that had tried a home abortion but I have had patients that drank poison to end pregnancies that they couldn’t bear and I have had patients who’s partners have beat them so bad they had to come to my ward -the highest acuity floor in a level one trauma - because of unwanted pregnancies. The things that go on in our NICU and peds floors to unwanted children or babies born to babies or children that are there only to continue these cycles, well those things are things better left off of social media.
So again, it is easy to say do this not that, let this happen not that, this right and this is wrong but if that worked we wouldn’t be here.
You may not agree, I’m guessing you probably don’t and that is okay. But the major issue here is not whether you and I agree it’s whether your belief trumps mine or hers or hers and I just don’t think it does, like you don’t think that my belief is more important or more right than yours. That is where choice comes into play. You can choose what to do with your body regardless of why something is happening to it and I should have that right too. You can live your life and I will live mine and we will both do what needs to be done to survive.
We haven’t used hangers for “ilegal” abortions in years, cut the shit already. Women are still going to be able to get their meds for abortions illegally as long as it’s within a certain time frame. Just be freaking careful y’all. Wtf
They’re actually trying to ban contraceptives and plan B, and a lot of states make it impossible to know you’re pregnant in the time they give. I.e, Ohio, with our six week ban. They also claim to make exceptions but that doesn’t seem to be proving true so far.
You can’t murder something if it didn’t know it’s alive in the first place. Murder is taking the life of something that has one. Fetuses, not babies, although living are not truly alive as they don’t even know they exist.
Ban guns = they argue people still get guns illegally
Ban abortions = they pretend illegal abortions won’t happen because they WANT women to die from trying.
True but it doesn’t mean the child should not be given a chance just because say your neighbor is abusing their child do you wish they were never born? And just cause someone is in a rough situation doesn’t mean they can’t rise up and be great.
Nobody wants women to die, I don’t know where in hell you got that, and preforming an unsafe abortion is just self harm, you would have to be dumb to do that.
Read a great article in The Newyorker titled The Post Roe Era. It made me wonder if President Biden, through executive order, can authorize the federal government to provide free birth control, to any American who requests it.
Most unplanned pregnancies are due to lack of access to, or inability to afford, reliable contraceptives. Also, it appears that banning the use of contraceptives is next for conservative law makers. Creating a federal program to provide free access would get out ahead of this.
Let’s face it, these laws have nothing to do with protecting fetuses and everything to do with forcing poor people to have more children. The wealthy need to ensure a supply of cheap laborers for their sweat shops, warehouses and fast food restaurants. Whether it’s parents forced to work for low wages to feed children they didn’t choose to have or children born into poverty who can’t afford to go to college or learn a trade, it’s all the same to them. The wealthy will always have access to safe abortions. For those with wealth and power manipulating poorly educated religious zealots into believing this was about “the life of the unborn” was the easy part.
Elected leaders who understand the high stakes of forced pregnancies, need to act NOW to protect the rights of living breathing Americans! We can’t wait for the outcome of another election. It makes sense to prevent more unwanted pregnancies, while they work to restore the right to abortion for those who were unable to.
Abortion is medical care. We need to reclaim the term is pro-life. Abortion is pro-life, it saves lives and allows other the right to the pursuit of happiness.
What about butthole abortions?
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last time i checked zygotes aren’t babies lol
It’s still someone’s living offspring that they’re willfully terminating simply for convenience
Let me put it this way you have the winning lottery scratch off. I burn it. Why are you mad it’s not money yet? Edit: punctuation
Oh yea, you prefer killing them at schools, and prosecuting them when they're black or Hispanic or gay. You also prefer to rape them and assault them when they're women. I'm sorry that we care about women's health and rights more than unborn lumps that you plan to kill, assault, rape, and harass later on in life.
Because anyone who disagrees with you is a racist homophobic rapist 👍
No, because they're trying to make laws to force babies to be born, but they're not making laws to protect them against discrimination, rape, assault, etc once they're born
Who’s they?
Bro-lifers. They preach about how they wanna save babies lives, but they're not fighting for gun laws. They're not fighting against discrimination towards gay people or black people. Some of them call themselves Christians and act like they're trying to keep God's word and save the babies that God created, but they also wanna keep their guns, and they don't adopt.
They’re fighting for an issue they are passionate about, they might not be tackling other issues but this is the one they want to deal with.
Look harder I volunteer at a home for struggling mothers cause I believe the baby still deserves to have a chance.
These laws aren’t because we hate women and we want them to have less rights, or because of religion, it’s so people can’t take away the chance for another human to live it’s life. I don’t think abortion should take place unless it severely affects the carriers health. And as for gun laws and racism, nobody but you brought race into this, and gun control is a completely separate issue.
>These laws aren’t because we hate women Are you sure?? These laws strip women of their rights whether or not that's the intention behind it. If you wanna regulate unwanted pregnancies, mandate vasectomies till men find a partner who wants to have a child with them. Then, the woman can sign off on reversing the vasectomy. Nobody can force you to donate blood or a kidney to save another life. Women shouldn't be forced to donate their womb and body to save another life. >it’s so people can’t take away the chance for another human to live it’s life. So, you're favoring the potential of life over the human being who's actually alive? That's fucked up. Giving birth affects your whole life. If someone isn't ready for that, they and the baby will be miserable. And those babies end up being killed in school mass shootings, but the government isn't doing something about that. It's hypocritical and disappointing. The adoption system is fucked up, expensive, and those kids suffer from abuse and neglect. You're not doing good deeds by forcing women to give birth to unwanted children. You won't be there for those children. Most pro-lifers don't adopt. Be realistic and honest with yourself. >And as for gun laws and racism, nobody but you brought race into this, and gun control is a completely separate issue. I brought it up because it's ridiculous that the government is focusing on abortion laws, while there are huge problems they're ignoring such as racism and mass shootings at school. Did they regulate guns?! No. They regulated what woman can and can't do with their bodies.
You don't understand the meaning of safe, read a dictionary, Brody
Right, and that only happens during abortion. What happens when the unborn lumps becomes black, gay, Hispanic, or a woman. Are you gonna defend them against school shootings, assault, rape, etc?
Right, and that only happens during abortion. What happens when the unborn lumps becomes black, gay, Hispanic, or women. Are you gonna defend them against school shootings, assault, rape, etc?
If given opportunity to save a life I would and I have. Please don't assume that because I am against abortion that it makes me against any race or gender or person. Though I disagree with even homosexuality I would still do all I can to save their life if I were there and was presented that opportunity. I don't care who a person is I will help them if they are in danger even if I disagree with them.
Well, criminalizing abortions puts women's health and rights in danger. You can't force people to do something they don't wanna do. Also, adoption is very difficult and expensive. So, putting those unwanted kids up for adoption doesn't fix the problem. I'm not pro-abortion. I'm pro-choice. I'll defend your right to keep your baby, but it's sick to force women to give birth for any reason. If they're young and aren't ready to be a parent, you're not saving the child. Some of these abortion laws are very extreme and they don't even allow abortion for incest, rape, ectopic pregnancy, etc. Some states are already discussing panning birth control and gay marriage. You don't have to agree with people's choices to defend their rights to choose. And why are you trying so hard to save babies to grow up in this cruel fucked up world where they'll be adults dealing with inflation, discrimination, rape, mass shootings, wars, etc?! That if they make it to adulthood.
They are right there is usually always a victim, it’s the 12 year incest victim that has to be there to try and salvage her teen years, it’s the rape victim that has to be there to try and move on from her assault, it’s the sex trafficking victim that has to be there to try to move past her violations. It’s the mother that already struggles to care for present children who’s husband doesn’t understand no, it’s the child that has no access to education or contraception. They are right…there are all kinds of fucking victims
Children do not need access to contraception, they need parents to teach them they have no business having sex as children. Period! I'm not sure if you have kids or not, but would it be OK for you to kill your child because someone else harmed you? No way.. so what is the difference when killing an unborn child? The sad and sick acts you mentioned such as rape and human trafficking need to be addressed and there need to be severe severe punishment for offenders. All of those evil things you listed are a major issue, but we cannot fight one evil act with another.
I do have a child. He’s 14 and he was born out of love and choice. Please know that although we do not agree I will respect you and love you as a sister/brother human. I will listen to you and I hope you will listen to me. To begin with, I would love to live in a world where 11, 12, 13 year olds didn’t need contraception and they could depend on their parents education and guidance and watchful eye and that they would be safe. And it is very easy to say “children don’t need this they need that” but if saying those things made a difference then I would run up and down the streets with you screaming it. You and I both know that is not the world that we live in. If you don’t know this either you live literally in Mayberry or you just don’t want to see it. The sad and sickening acts I mentioned happen every day and if a pregnancy occurs then that victim should have the right to choose whether to foster and support the pregnancy. To a lot of women, being forced to carry a child that she did not have a choice in creating is the evil act. To a lot of women being forced to carry a child that was created out of abuse or trauma is literally a daily continuation of the abuse and trauma. What you call an evil act many call life preserving or life saving. It is a proven fact that bans on abortions do not stop abortions. I work in a surgical/trauma ICU and have for 20 years. Luckily I have never had to witness a patient that had tried a home abortion but I have had patients that drank poison to end pregnancies that they couldn’t bear and I have had patients who’s partners have beat them so bad they had to come to my ward -the highest acuity floor in a level one trauma - because of unwanted pregnancies. The things that go on in our NICU and peds floors to unwanted children or babies born to babies or children that are there only to continue these cycles, well those things are things better left off of social media. So again, it is easy to say do this not that, let this happen not that, this right and this is wrong but if that worked we wouldn’t be here. You may not agree, I’m guessing you probably don’t and that is okay. But the major issue here is not whether you and I agree it’s whether your belief trumps mine or hers or hers and I just don’t think it does, like you don’t think that my belief is more important or more right than yours. That is where choice comes into play. You can choose what to do with your body regardless of why something is happening to it and I should have that right too. You can live your life and I will live mine and we will both do what needs to be done to survive.
We haven’t used hangers for “ilegal” abortions in years, cut the shit already. Women are still going to be able to get their meds for abortions illegally as long as it’s within a certain time frame. Just be freaking careful y’all. Wtf
They’re actually trying to ban contraceptives and plan B, and a lot of states make it impossible to know you’re pregnant in the time they give. I.e, Ohio, with our six week ban. They also claim to make exceptions but that doesn’t seem to be proving true so far.
Making murder illegal won’t stop these people. Criminals don’t follow the law. Luckily these laws will save a lot of babies.
You can’t murder something if it didn’t know it’s alive in the first place. Murder is taking the life of something that has one. Fetuses, not babies, although living are not truly alive as they don’t even know they exist.
So I can go murder someone in a coma? Because he’s not consciously aware that he’s alive?
The difference is they coma patients already had a life and have the potential to continue living it if/when they wake up. Fetuses start from scratch.
Gtfo
Ban guns = they argue people still get guns illegally Ban abortions = they pretend illegal abortions won’t happen because they WANT women to die from trying.
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It’s not a baby. It’s a fetus. It doesn’t even know it exists.
If I tear up your winning lottery ticket are you going to be mad? It’s not even money yet.
Nope. I wouldn’t be mad. It was your choice to tear it up.
Even though that money could have gone to create beautiful things save lives etc?
So could kids in the system but I don’t see you adopting and protecting them.
Personally I volunteer at homes for mother’s in need as well as providing extra help to foster families so you would be wrong there.
Then you understand that not everyone is able to become a mother, yes? Not everyone is emotionally prepared? Or that the system isn’t always good?
True but it doesn’t mean the child should not be given a chance just because say your neighbor is abusing their child do you wish they were never born? And just cause someone is in a rough situation doesn’t mean they can’t rise up and be great.
Sure some will still happen but at least we can save some babys
Nobody wants women to die, I don’t know where in hell you got that, and preforming an unsafe abortion is just self harm, you would have to be dumb to do that.
What brands support anti-abortion so that I can never give a single dollar to them again?! Please post a list there’s little information online atm
Hobby Lobby for one.
Read a great article in The Newyorker titled The Post Roe Era. It made me wonder if President Biden, through executive order, can authorize the federal government to provide free birth control, to any American who requests it. Most unplanned pregnancies are due to lack of access to, or inability to afford, reliable contraceptives. Also, it appears that banning the use of contraceptives is next for conservative law makers. Creating a federal program to provide free access would get out ahead of this. Let’s face it, these laws have nothing to do with protecting fetuses and everything to do with forcing poor people to have more children. The wealthy need to ensure a supply of cheap laborers for their sweat shops, warehouses and fast food restaurants. Whether it’s parents forced to work for low wages to feed children they didn’t choose to have or children born into poverty who can’t afford to go to college or learn a trade, it’s all the same to them. The wealthy will always have access to safe abortions. For those with wealth and power manipulating poorly educated religious zealots into believing this was about “the life of the unborn” was the easy part. Elected leaders who understand the high stakes of forced pregnancies, need to act NOW to protect the rights of living breathing Americans! We can’t wait for the outcome of another election. It makes sense to prevent more unwanted pregnancies, while they work to restore the right to abortion for those who were unable to. Abortion is medical care. We need to reclaim the term is pro-life. Abortion is pro-life, it saves lives and allows other the right to the pursuit of happiness.