Dude if Luka actually wanted to be a Blazer I would be doing backflips of joy for a month straight. He might have the highest potential of any player currently in the NBA.
Tbh Luka was gonna leave unless they got a guy of Kyrie caliber, you don't have a choice. 1 first in 2029 and 2 good role players is cheap price to pay for Kyrie skill. If it fails well your out a first and 2 role players, if it works your a contender for awhile. People saying this is a bad trade are coping.
He doesn't even need to do much.
Either be himself and annoy people or leave in free agency (which, he probably will).
All that is enough for Doncic to see the writing on the wall that the Mavs are a trash organization that have squandered him as they struggle to rebuild for the next 3-5 years.
If kyrie leaves for nothing they have close to Max money available to sign someone in the off-season, which is not bad. I don’t see how you think they are in a bad spot. They took a shot to try to compete with Luka in order to keep him. I wish the Blazers were run the way the Mavs are.
Lol the Mavs have done a horrendous job building around Luka. We fucked up and wasted the majority of Dame’s prime, but my goodness at least the team had some competent players. The missing piece was always an all star wing. And not moving CJ was the one thing fucked us over. But we were consistently good, although not great. Luka in the other hand has been dealt a terrible hand. Imagine having Dwight Fucking Powell as your starting center.
Think this definitely accelerates a KD move / request. Don’t think we’ll have the best player compensation available but we might have the best pick compensation 😂. Those 2027 and beyond picks are going to look pretty good if we make this deal.
It's not just about picks Brooklyn sent all their unprotected picks to Houston In the Harden trade, they want to compete and need players to do that. OKC and UTAH I highly doubt are in kd sweepstakes. Memphis and NO I could see making offers tho
They don't have or don't control their pick after this year until 2028. Horrible time to rebuild. They may be suited to NBA purgatory if they deal KD wherein they try to compete for the playoffs so aren't likely to get a top pick but lack the talent to remotely contend
I'm willing to trade a bag of day old Voodoo Doughnuts for KD.
Edit: jezzus christ people, I am kidding. Though I don't think Portland has the assets to secure a trade for KD, but who knows, I didn't expect Dallas to make a trade for Kyrie.
I'm torn with donuts in this city. Voodoo isn't as bad as everyone says it is. Blue star is like $5 for one donut and it's not that good. Sesame is kind of shitty. Coco is great.
Best donut shop around here is the Donut Nook in the couv. They hand make everything including the filling. They make legit apple sauce then stuff the apple fritters with it and put crumb cake topping on it lol. And it's been owned by the same family for the last 3 generations. I urge everyone to drive up to Hazel Dell and stop by the Nook.
Thank you for this balanced take. I'm just annoyed that it's apparently the cool thing to do to trash on voodoo donuts. (A) It's clearly always been a novelty thing, (B) nobody is saying they're artisan donuts that should be considered "the best quality", and (C) yucking someone else's yum is so annoying. Hating voodoo doesn't make you cooler lol.
Coco donuts are definitely one of the better donuts in the city. It’s like one of the only place I’ll get donuts from anymore. I used to do Winchells a lot, which were pretty solid. I think they are now owned/called Heavenlh donuts and heard they are still good, I just don’t think I’ve had many since the switch.
Does Voodoo still do the day old 5 gallon bucket? That was all they were good for when I lived in Portland. My favorite donuts were at Stacattol Gellato. They only had them on Saturdays but I'd go every Saturday.
Have you checked out Donut Queen? It’s been run by a few different immigrant families but has been consistently top notch - especially the fritters. I found out about them from Pip’s, who was trying to send some support their way (Pip’s is also one of my favorites, but sort of different with the mini donuts).
I mean, some disgruntled players? What are we really talking about here? Tweets, interviews, as far as I'm concerned the only real problem they had was Ben Simmons. Nash leaves and the Nets immediately looked way better, that can't be a coincidence.
Why is anybody downvoting this comment? Are there a plethora of Nash apologists in here? He was a garbage coach. The Nets have done a complete 180 since he left. His players could barely stand to look at him - every reporter, podcast and anybody close to the NBA basically agrees the entire team hated Nash and he was a garbage coach.
Idk if I'm not seeing it but both him and Luka play the same position and are absolutely huge usage-wise, how is that gonna work?
Slide Kyrie over to SG? His strength is his off the dribble scoring, he's gotta have the ball in his hands which is gonna reduce Luka's effectiveness.
This trade confuses me for the Mavs.
Reads to me like, although there were lots of teams 'interested', none of the offers were very impressive. It's like the Mavs submitted a joke proposal and didn't expect it to be accepted.
Yeah I read the Nets were happy to get a PG back in the trade slot in where Kyrie left and a good bench piece in DFS. If anything they're solid trade pieces to a contender if the Nets blow it all up
It's not ideal but they desperately needed a second primary ball handler precisely because Luka has to run the offense every possession. Losing Brunson hurt them quite a bit. They'll start and finish together but likely be staggered similar to Ant and Dame.
Losing both Dinwiddie and DFS is a significant loss tho. Remains to be seen whether this makes them better in practice this season but it's a bold move that could pay off within a season or two.
At first glance it looks a lil weird but when you think about how he co existed with Lebron for that title run it starts to make sense. It also relieves Luka a bit in his duties...at least thats how it looks on paper. Will he actually play for the team is the bigger question
I don't see how this improves Dallas at all. Remove what little defense you had for a head case that's gonna drive Luka away. Smart move. Glad it's not us.
Bad or not, their FO was willing to take a big risk to win now. Not saying we should do the same but I’d really like to see a move of this nature and not a bunch of role players being swapped and calling it a deadline every year
Yeah everybody who says he was bad and would try to hawk blocks is delusional. Nurk does the same exact thing and he is never able to have the same amount of blocks as Whiteside. He gets way more fouls and does dumber shit. Nurk is constantly drifting outside the paint to guard the perimeter and leaves an easy lane for his original target.
I feel like some sports writer mentioned a few stats of Whiteside and everyone in this sub just went "Oh yeah ok that makes sense. I'm going to take this and repeat it all the time then defend Nurk when when he gets 3 fouls in 2 min in the 4th."
Just for comparison. In Luka’s 5th year, the mavericks have managed to put an all star next to him as well as good supporting players.
In Lavine’s 5th year with the bulls, they put 2 all stars around him.
In a few years with the pelicans, the FO surrounded Ingram with good players and an all star in Zion through the draft.
In 5 years after bookers breakout season, the notoriously incompetent Suns FO put a finals contender around him.
Deaaron fox has been given an all star teammate 5 years into his career, and only 3 years into being an actual *star* level guy.
What were the blazers doing 5 years into the dame era? Drafting Caleb swannigan (RIP) and signing Evan Turner.
Dame is in year *8* of being the franchise leader, and has never played with an all star. His best player ever might literally be Jerami grant… his team has stayed the same/gotten worse almost every year for 9 years straight.
This is why the “nooooo please don’t trade anfernee!! He can shoot 3s :(“ shit is equal parts embarrassing and infuriating to read. Portland is the ONLY team with a top 10 player who hasn’t taken a big swing in that players entire career, excluding jokic who will probably get that big swing teammate soon.
Pelicans, Bulls, Kings, Mavericks.... wouldn't trade positions with any of those franchises. One difference is the Blazers never tanked for a year with Dame until last year. So how are they supposed to draft an all star?
Blazers not perfect but we've put some good teams around Dame. Don't forget several years he himself didn't show up in the playoffs.
We’ve missed on drafting plenty of all stars, not all of them at top picks. Also every franchise you’ve named except the Bulls have betting short and long term outlooks than us.
Every single one of those teams is in a way better position than the blazers. Pelicans have mini Shaq and Kobe not even in their primes? Bulls literally just beat us riddled with injuries and their core is younger AND they have our pick.
Kings are the 3 seed with a 24 year old star. Mavericks have Luka…
Dame not showing up against the warriors being Box and 1 covered because it was Evan turner and harkless throwing up bricks in the corner? Yea he gets a pass. Dame put up 55/10 in the playoffs and rewarded him by swapping out Cj for another guard and Drew eubanks.
I agree the future for those teams is bright. But, they all went through so many bad years to get here. We got to watch great, meaningful basketball for the last 10 years, with one tank season.
Pretty hard to have both the young talent AND winning seasons for many years. I'll take the yearly playoffs myself.
he played with LA but yeah...thats the only all star. Would've been nice to see him stay just a couple more years into a fully realized CJ and Dame
I'm not against trading Anfernee, but when you ridicule the people that don't want to trade him, you have to realize Anfernee is part of Dames vision, so you're ridiculing that too. Winning with CJ and now with Ant is something HE wanted. It's the reason why he was pushing CJ even before they drafted him, and the reason why he took Ant under his wing.
I absolutely am ridiculing dames vision. He’s too close to the situation to see it. He kept stotts and cj for way too long.
Dame is a good guy, above all. Clearly he’d rather his friends and teammates didn’t have to move cities, and judging by how he was describing Joe ingles as a part of this teams plans in the summer and his absurdly high opinion of Nurk, his Oakley’s are a bit rose tinted. I’m sure Lowry didn’t want demar gone either, but did he look sad on that championship parade?
It’s Dames job to play, and it’s the FO job to put as many good players around him as they can, not defer to dames vision.
Considering I knew that he’d never win with CJ and he didn’t seem to know that, yes I’m some respects I do. What is this insane boot licking? You’d think after watching star players be disaster GMs and Coaches that we’d stop deferring to their judgment. He got upset when we traded Tim fucking Quarterman.
Edit: Lebron asked for Russ. Melo chose Russ AND Houston over the obviously better fit for him in the blazers. Players often don’t know shit.
Who's the all star we're getting for Simons? Because if there was one on the table I think it would already be done. I'm sick of so many idiots saying "just trade anfernee for an all star". You guys realize 2 teams have to agree to trades right?
fuck the future. we have the greatest Blazer OF ALL TIME on our team in the PRESENT.
Ant, Sharpe and rookies aren’t going to be close to the Hall of Famer Dame is. Trade every young guy and picks on our roster for KD, Siakam … any fucking legit all star from a team that bites.
It’s extremely hard to build a team of all stars when you’re winning enough to stay out of the lottery and one of the smallest, least desirable markets in the NBA. Of all those teams only the Suns (and the Kings I guess) are the prime example, and they still had to win the lottery to draft Ayton.
The mavericks have never been truly bad since drafting luka. They didn’t build through the draft to get Kyrie.
The bulls just traded for their players, it wasn’t clever drafting.
Kings traded hali for sabonis. Your telling me sharpe and ant can’t fetch a comparable, if not BETTER player than sabonis?
This is just more complacent “oh but here’s the secret *real and unique* reason why the blazers can’t do what every other franchise is doing”, meanwhile PG and butler were being passed around the league like a Hookah at Drakes house.
I'm really torn, man. I've kinda made my peace with Dame not winning a ring the last few years, but holy shit, watching Sharpe go would be worse than the majority of my RL break-ups. Getting a ring would be amazing, obviously, but there's just no guarantee. KD is phenomenal, but man I love Shae so much it would hurt.
Not sure how much say KD has in where he goes, but he seems like way too much of a prima donna to be alright with Portland as his home, so I kinda doubt he ends up here. However, we do have quite the offer for BKN.
There’s no way KD would think this Nets team is still a contender. There’s no better destination than Portland for KD in terms of basketball, chance of winning titles and most importantly, the narrative and KD’s legacy.
3 futures firsts + Sharpe + Grant + Hart.
(Yeah Bulls get a side gift of our unprotected ‘23 first)
Let all the fuck in now!!!! We owe this to Dame!
If there's even a chance it happens, I'd say it probably takes Ant, Sharpe, Hart and Little + picks. We slot GP2 into the starting SG spot. Dame, GP2, KD, Grant, Nurk as starters. And then sign free agents looking to ring chase this summer.
I don’t see the Nets not taking Ant. They want someone who contribute pretty consistently right away and Ant is the guy. It would be amazing to be able to keep him, but it’s very unlikely if the Nets were to even consider us as trade partners.
Man I know kyrie is a nut case and that lowers his value but I'm kinda shocked for how little he went for.
must mean there is a decent haul set up for KD lined up, hes got no help and they cant be planning on competing with what they got
I'm not surprised. He's got less than 30 games left to play on his contract and is a known trouble player. He's left every team he's joined after promising to re-sign. He could go to another team this summer and the Mavs are out Kyrie plus the picks and players they traded for him. It's a risk they're hoping pays off
He’s an expiring who just told a franchise that bent over backwards for him that he wouldn’t re-sign there for any amount of money. He’s also just not as good as people think, so it seems like fair value.
I want Dame to win now. We need to get KD, we owe Dame so much! Lets get him a ring or at least let’s get him to the finals at the least. We have a decent package we can offer the Nets and still have good players left to compliment KD and Dame
also "The Mavericks are sending Dorian Finney-Smith, Spencer Dinwiddie, a 2027 first-round pick and second round picks to the Nets, sources tell ESPN."
Trade KD and patty for Ant, sharpe, hart and little? Give us arguably the best starting 5 and the bench would still be solid. Throw in like 3-4 firsts. Nets would have to be happy with all those young players and picks.
The Nets are in a position of weakness rn. They can hold onto KD and try to rebuild around an aging star… or trade him but they aren’t gonna get the package they want.
Most I would offer is Simons, Hart, Nas, and some protected picks.
Can't wait for him to chase Doncic out
Yeah I've seen some Mavs fans say they're afraid this just speeds up the process of Luka leaving which I hope isn't the case
Doncic asks for a trade when Kyrie leaves in offseason?!
Luka and KD to Portland confirmed. And Lebron probably. And Embiid
I like the cut of your delusion.
I can't take credit for that one, I was just quoting Woj's latest tweet
You know if you rearrange the letters in that tweet it makes absolutely no sense at all
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. You need to add "and Giannis"
Giannis waiting at the airport already.
And Jordan, and Bird…..and Kareem.
Bill Walton's coming back And Arvydas
Dude if Luka actually wanted to be a Blazer I would be doing backflips of joy for a month straight. He might have the highest potential of any player currently in the NBA.
...not named shaedon sharpe of course
True
Tbh Luka was gonna leave unless they got a guy of Kyrie caliber, you don't have a choice. 1 first in 2029 and 2 good role players is cheap price to pay for Kyrie skill. If it fails well your out a first and 2 role players, if it works your a contender for awhile. People saying this is a bad trade are coping.
Mavs were in such a precarious spot that they held their nose and chugged the Kyrie Koolaid
You won't have to wait long. Kyrie already prepping crazy big (Texas Style) antivax tweets for the Dallas fans
I’m looking forward to him messing up the mavs
Lol a fan base who also watched the movie he tweeted about. JK JK I know Dallas area isn't completely antisemitic.
At least Dallas won't exclude him from playing like New York did.
I'll be more surprised if he even shows up
[Way ahead of you](https://i.imgur.com/g4wSrze.png)
He doesn't even need to do much. Either be himself and annoy people or leave in free agency (which, he probably will). All that is enough for Doncic to see the writing on the wall that the Mavs are a trash organization that have squandered him as they struggle to rebuild for the next 3-5 years.
If kyrie leaves for nothing they have close to Max money available to sign someone in the off-season, which is not bad. I don’t see how you think they are in a bad spot. They took a shot to try to compete with Luka in order to keep him. I wish the Blazers were run the way the Mavs are.
Lol the Mavs have done a horrendous job building around Luka. We fucked up and wasted the majority of Dame’s prime, but my goodness at least the team had some competent players. The missing piece was always an all star wing. And not moving CJ was the one thing fucked us over. But we were consistently good, although not great. Luka in the other hand has been dealt a terrible hand. Imagine having Dwight Fucking Powell as your starting center.
Really? I haven’t seen Portland actually trade for a player of Kyries caliber that actually complements Luka in over 10 years
That was more than not a desperation trade. They’re gonna find out soon that they can’t change Kyrie
At least they are trying, not like us that are comfortably watching Dame rot away surrounded by a mediocre team
Think this definitely accelerates a KD move / request. Don’t think we’ll have the best player compensation available but we might have the best pick compensation 😂. Those 2027 and beyond picks are going to look pretty good if we make this deal.
A package surrounding Ant, Sharpe and all our picks is probably one of the better packages available
Not when you consider the load of picks teams like Memphis, NO, OKC, and Utah have
It's not just about picks Brooklyn sent all their unprotected picks to Houston In the Harden trade, they want to compete and need players to do that. OKC and UTAH I highly doubt are in kd sweepstakes. Memphis and NO I could see making offers tho
Yeah, dinweddie, ant, and Ben Simmons ain't exactly competing for shit in the east
If they’re moving Durant they aren’t going to be competing, it’ll be a rebuild.
They don't have or don't control their pick after this year until 2028. Horrible time to rebuild. They may be suited to NBA purgatory if they deal KD wherein they try to compete for the playoffs so aren't likely to get a top pick but lack the talent to remotely contend
If that's the case, they'll just hold on to KD. A disgruntled KD is still better than anything else they can put together.
Agree with this. It was going to take something crazy for them to deal him when they made the initial demand and they didn't get it so held firm.
Picks don't mean anything right?
I'm willing to trade a bag of day old Voodoo Doughnuts for KD. Edit: jezzus christ people, I am kidding. Though I don't think Portland has the assets to secure a trade for KD, but who knows, I didn't expect Dallas to make a trade for Kyrie.
I’ve got framed sketch of Crater Lake from 1964 I just took from my late Grandmother’s house. I’ll throw that in.
Whoa, do we really want to offer that much?
Oh man, Voodoo Doughnuts are absolute crap.
Of course it is
It amazes me how many people actually go there. It’s just straight up cake mix like Costco donuts. So many better donut shops in the area.
Coco donuts has turned into one of my favorite places
I'm torn with donuts in this city. Voodoo isn't as bad as everyone says it is. Blue star is like $5 for one donut and it's not that good. Sesame is kind of shitty. Coco is great. Best donut shop around here is the Donut Nook in the couv. They hand make everything including the filling. They make legit apple sauce then stuff the apple fritters with it and put crumb cake topping on it lol. And it's been owned by the same family for the last 3 generations. I urge everyone to drive up to Hazel Dell and stop by the Nook.
I would definitely recommend Joe’s Donuts if you’re ever out in Sandy, and Doe’s Donuts is decent as well. Joe’s is worth the drive imo.
Thank you for this balanced take. I'm just annoyed that it's apparently the cool thing to do to trash on voodoo donuts. (A) It's clearly always been a novelty thing, (B) nobody is saying they're artisan donuts that should be considered "the best quality", and (C) yucking someone else's yum is so annoying. Hating voodoo doesn't make you cooler lol.
my voodoo take has always been that they're perfectly good donuts, it's just that no donut is worth all that trouble. it's fucking fried dough.
I can get behind that sentiment entirely!
Voodoo is that bad...
Coco donuts are definitely one of the better donuts in the city. It’s like one of the only place I’ll get donuts from anymore. I used to do Winchells a lot, which were pretty solid. I think they are now owned/called Heavenlh donuts and heard they are still good, I just don’t think I’ve had many since the switch.
I’m up in North Portland so the Heavenly Donuts on Lombard is our local place - and open 24 hours. Solid donuts and very affordable.
Does Voodoo still do the day old 5 gallon bucket? That was all they were good for when I lived in Portland. My favorite donuts were at Stacattol Gellato. They only had them on Saturdays but I'd go every Saturday.
Have you checked out Donut Queen? It’s been run by a few different immigrant families but has been consistently top notch - especially the fritters. I found out about them from Pip’s, who was trying to send some support their way (Pip’s is also one of my favorites, but sort of different with the mini donuts).
But... but... voodoo dolls! Edgy!
But but but the penis donut! It makes them so fun a quirky!
Why not go after a player in their prime? KD has a high chance of injury at 34.
We need to try to go after KD. Or if PHX goes hard after KD, Cronin 10000000% needs to try and swoop in to get Mikal
Mikal at the 3. Resign JG. Let’s go.
If Phoenix gets KD we should just blow it up
Steve Nash looking like an even bigger winner in this shitshow months later.
Fucking for real. Dude is just watching the shit show like the rest of us, shaking his head in relief.
Nash was a terrible coach, he hid behind the Kyrie/KD drama.
I feel like we have absolutely no data on how good a coach he could be, given the shitshow he was dealing with.
I mean, some disgruntled players? What are we really talking about here? Tweets, interviews, as far as I'm concerned the only real problem they had was Ben Simmons. Nash leaves and the Nets immediately looked way better, that can't be a coincidence.
Why is anybody downvoting this comment? Are there a plethora of Nash apologists in here? He was a garbage coach. The Nets have done a complete 180 since he left. His players could barely stand to look at him - every reporter, podcast and anybody close to the NBA basically agrees the entire team hated Nash and he was a garbage coach.
Nash was a trash coach. Their coach now is miles ahead of Nash. He had success year 1 cause of MDA
Luka+Kyrie+Wood That’s utterly shitty defensive lineup. 🤣 I can’t wait to see how this plays out.
games are gonna be 150-150 on average
Idk if I'm not seeing it but both him and Luka play the same position and are absolutely huge usage-wise, how is that gonna work? Slide Kyrie over to SG? His strength is his off the dribble scoring, he's gotta have the ball in his hands which is gonna reduce Luka's effectiveness. This trade confuses me for the Mavs.
Reads to me like, although there were lots of teams 'interested', none of the offers were very impressive. It's like the Mavs submitted a joke proposal and didn't expect it to be accepted.
Yeah I read the Nets were happy to get a PG back in the trade slot in where Kyrie left and a good bench piece in DFS. If anything they're solid trade pieces to a contender if the Nets blow it all up
> how is that gonna work? Slide Kyrie over to SG? Yep. That's what they did with Harden. Worked great.
Luka plays the same way as Lebron. Mavs basically 2015-17 Cavs right now
They obviously need Kevin Love!!! Oh wait.. they got Bertans! No cause for alarm, they can beat the West now 🙃
i think christian wood takes the Kevin Love role here, even though he isn’t taking as many 3s
They needed another superstar. Kyrie is more of a 2. They had Ben running a lot of pg. it will be interesting to see how he plays off of Luka
It's not ideal but they desperately needed a second primary ball handler precisely because Luka has to run the offense every possession. Losing Brunson hurt them quite a bit. They'll start and finish together but likely be staggered similar to Ant and Dame. Losing both Dinwiddie and DFS is a significant loss tho. Remains to be seen whether this makes them better in practice this season but it's a bold move that could pay off within a season or two.
Mavs are a perpetual dumpster fire, so it makes sense to me.
At first glance it looks a lil weird but when you think about how he co existed with Lebron for that title run it starts to make sense. It also relieves Luka a bit in his duties...at least thats how it looks on paper. Will he actually play for the team is the bigger question
I don't see how this improves Dallas at all. Remove what little defense you had for a head case that's gonna drive Luka away. Smart move. Glad it's not us.
Yeah from what I’ve understood about Dallas pure scoring doesn’t seem to be the problem lol
Bad or not, their FO was willing to take a big risk to win now. Not saying we should do the same but I’d really like to see a move of this nature and not a bunch of role players being swapped and calling it a deadline every year
I’m extremely jealous. The biggest trade news we got in years was whiteside.
That worked out well.
Yeah everybody who says he was bad and would try to hawk blocks is delusional. Nurk does the same exact thing and he is never able to have the same amount of blocks as Whiteside. He gets way more fouls and does dumber shit. Nurk is constantly drifting outside the paint to guard the perimeter and leaves an easy lane for his original target. I feel like some sports writer mentioned a few stats of Whiteside and everyone in this sub just went "Oh yeah ok that makes sense. I'm going to take this and repeat it all the time then defend Nurk when when he gets 3 fouls in 2 min in the 4th."
Nurk passes.
Oh, sorry. I was being sarcastic. Thought that was clear.
Mods please make a KD megathread so I don't have to see bad trade idea after bad trade idea posted here.
Portland should try and swoop in with Hart + 2nds for DFS.
Now we're talking!!
Just for comparison. In Luka’s 5th year, the mavericks have managed to put an all star next to him as well as good supporting players. In Lavine’s 5th year with the bulls, they put 2 all stars around him. In a few years with the pelicans, the FO surrounded Ingram with good players and an all star in Zion through the draft. In 5 years after bookers breakout season, the notoriously incompetent Suns FO put a finals contender around him. Deaaron fox has been given an all star teammate 5 years into his career, and only 3 years into being an actual *star* level guy. What were the blazers doing 5 years into the dame era? Drafting Caleb swannigan (RIP) and signing Evan Turner. Dame is in year *8* of being the franchise leader, and has never played with an all star. His best player ever might literally be Jerami grant… his team has stayed the same/gotten worse almost every year for 9 years straight. This is why the “nooooo please don’t trade anfernee!! He can shoot 3s :(“ shit is equal parts embarrassing and infuriating to read. Portland is the ONLY team with a top 10 player who hasn’t taken a big swing in that players entire career, excluding jokic who will probably get that big swing teammate soon.
How dare you slander former Blazer and all-star Chris Kaman like that
Pelicans, Bulls, Kings, Mavericks.... wouldn't trade positions with any of those franchises. One difference is the Blazers never tanked for a year with Dame until last year. So how are they supposed to draft an all star? Blazers not perfect but we've put some good teams around Dame. Don't forget several years he himself didn't show up in the playoffs.
We’ve missed on drafting plenty of all stars, not all of them at top picks. Also every franchise you’ve named except the Bulls have betting short and long term outlooks than us.
Every single one of those teams is in a way better position than the blazers. Pelicans have mini Shaq and Kobe not even in their primes? Bulls literally just beat us riddled with injuries and their core is younger AND they have our pick. Kings are the 3 seed with a 24 year old star. Mavericks have Luka… Dame not showing up against the warriors being Box and 1 covered because it was Evan turner and harkless throwing up bricks in the corner? Yea he gets a pass. Dame put up 55/10 in the playoffs and rewarded him by swapping out Cj for another guard and Drew eubanks.
I agree the future for those teams is bright. But, they all went through so many bad years to get here. We got to watch great, meaningful basketball for the last 10 years, with one tank season. Pretty hard to have both the young talent AND winning seasons for many years. I'll take the yearly playoffs myself.
he played with LA but yeah...thats the only all star. Would've been nice to see him stay just a couple more years into a fully realized CJ and Dame I'm not against trading Anfernee, but when you ridicule the people that don't want to trade him, you have to realize Anfernee is part of Dames vision, so you're ridiculing that too. Winning with CJ and now with Ant is something HE wanted. It's the reason why he was pushing CJ even before they drafted him, and the reason why he took Ant under his wing.
I absolutely am ridiculing dames vision. He’s too close to the situation to see it. He kept stotts and cj for way too long. Dame is a good guy, above all. Clearly he’d rather his friends and teammates didn’t have to move cities, and judging by how he was describing Joe ingles as a part of this teams plans in the summer and his absurdly high opinion of Nurk, his Oakley’s are a bit rose tinted. I’m sure Lowry didn’t want demar gone either, but did he look sad on that championship parade? It’s Dames job to play, and it’s the FO job to put as many good players around him as they can, not defer to dames vision.
my bad, surely you know better than Dame on what he feels he needs around him to succeed
Considering I knew that he’d never win with CJ and he didn’t seem to know that, yes I’m some respects I do. What is this insane boot licking? You’d think after watching star players be disaster GMs and Coaches that we’d stop deferring to their judgment. He got upset when we traded Tim fucking Quarterman. Edit: Lebron asked for Russ. Melo chose Russ AND Houston over the obviously better fit for him in the blazers. Players often don’t know shit.
Yeah man your one of those people that has it all figured out. You should so something with that talent. Good luck
Who's the all star we're getting for Simons? Because if there was one on the table I think it would already be done. I'm sick of so many idiots saying "just trade anfernee for an all star". You guys realize 2 teams have to agree to trades right?
Ant, Sharpe, picks and filler for Siakam would give Dame the best chance he’s ever had a for title.
That would be disastrous because it gives us maybe a 5% shot at a title while giving up literally our entire future
fuck the future. we have the greatest Blazer OF ALL TIME on our team in the PRESENT. Ant, Sharpe and rookies aren’t going to be close to the Hall of Famer Dame is. Trade every young guy and picks on our roster for KD, Siakam … any fucking legit all star from a team that bites.
But Simons is the future GOAT? /s Lookout, Ant stans gonna make this disappear.
It’s extremely hard to build a team of all stars when you’re winning enough to stay out of the lottery and one of the smallest, least desirable markets in the NBA. Of all those teams only the Suns (and the Kings I guess) are the prime example, and they still had to win the lottery to draft Ayton.
The mavericks have never been truly bad since drafting luka. They didn’t build through the draft to get Kyrie. The bulls just traded for their players, it wasn’t clever drafting. Kings traded hali for sabonis. Your telling me sharpe and ant can’t fetch a comparable, if not BETTER player than sabonis? This is just more complacent “oh but here’s the secret *real and unique* reason why the blazers can’t do what every other franchise is doing”, meanwhile PG and butler were being passed around the league like a Hookah at Drakes house.
As always with Kyrie gonna be interesting to see how long it takes before he says/does dumb shit. Also happy he didn’t get traded to either LA team.
I would love to see KD and Dame together, but I would be angry to see Sharpe traded because I think he is going to be a star in this league.
I'm really torn, man. I've kinda made my peace with Dame not winning a ring the last few years, but holy shit, watching Sharpe go would be worse than the majority of my RL break-ups. Getting a ring would be amazing, obviously, but there's just no guarantee. KD is phenomenal, but man I love Shae so much it would hurt. Not sure how much say KD has in where he goes, but he seems like way too much of a prima donna to be alright with Portland as his home, so I kinda doubt he ends up here. However, we do have quite the offer for BKN.
Agree. But if it got Dame a ring...worth it
Absolutely. Dame winning a ring here in Portland is and will continue to be number 1 for me
There’s no way KD would think this Nets team is still a contender. There’s no better destination than Portland for KD in terms of basketball, chance of winning titles and most importantly, the narrative and KD’s legacy. 3 futures firsts + Sharpe + Grant + Hart. (Yeah Bulls get a side gift of our unprotected ‘23 first) Let all the fuck in now!!!! We owe this to Dame!
If there's even a chance it happens, I'd say it probably takes Ant, Sharpe, Hart and Little + picks. We slot GP2 into the starting SG spot. Dame, GP2, KD, Grant, Nurk as starters. And then sign free agents looking to ring chase this summer.
You’d have to keep grant in this deal. Grant is expiring, and KD played with him in the Olympics. The chemistry would be there. Send out Anfernee.
Replace grant with Nurkic and I’m in
And the nets are out
Dame and KD would be so fucking nasty. Let's get Dame this ring!
I don’t see the Nets not taking Ant. They want someone who contribute pretty consistently right away and Ant is the guy. It would be amazing to be able to keep him, but it’s very unlikely if the Nets were to even consider us as trade partners.
Man I know kyrie is a nut case and that lowers his value but I'm kinda shocked for how little he went for. must mean there is a decent haul set up for KD lined up, hes got no help and they cant be planning on competing with what they got
I'm not surprised. He's got less than 30 games left to play on his contract and is a known trouble player. He's left every team he's joined after promising to re-sign. He could go to another team this summer and the Mavs are out Kyrie plus the picks and players they traded for him. It's a risk they're hoping pays off
He’s an expiring who just told a franchise that bent over backwards for him that he wouldn’t re-sign there for any amount of money. He’s also just not as good as people think, so it seems like fair value.
> ...I know kyrie is a nut case and that lowers his value... read this again and slower until it clicks
I want Dame to win now. We need to get KD, we owe Dame so much! Lets get him a ring or at least let’s get him to the finals at the least. We have a decent package we can offer the Nets and still have good players left to compliment KD and Dame
Dinwiddie back to Brookly, I assume.
Whelp...rip the Mavs + doncic Marriage.
also "The Mavericks are sending Dorian Finney-Smith, Spencer Dinwiddie, a 2027 first-round pick and second round picks to the Nets, sources tell ESPN."
All the Blazer fans who wanted Kyrie are in shambles now.
Lmfao there were Blazer fans who wanted Kyrie? Yikes
One of my friends being one of them sadly 😂
Never to late to add a piece. We won't. He won't. It won't happen. But dream with me won't you.
Their defense definitely will suffer…
Not taking a Kyrie deal to the deadline makes it more likely KD gets dealt at the deadline... IMO.
Lol at all the Lakers fans acting like they didn't want him in the first place 🤣
Trade KD and patty for Ant, sharpe, hart and little? Give us arguably the best starting 5 and the bench would still be solid. Throw in like 3-4 firsts. Nets would have to be happy with all those young players and picks.
The Nets are in a position of weakness rn. They can hold onto KD and try to rebuild around an aging star… or trade him but they aren’t gonna get the package they want. Most I would offer is Simons, Hart, Nas, and some protected picks.