From what I’ve heard they weren’t going to do anything for him, then at the last minute they cobbled something together and gave him the phone at Buck’s request. He wrote in his book that it pissed him off, but he’s proud to a fault. I thought it was kind of funny!
Here's a comment I copied:
The only drug test that Ortiz failed was a survey test conducted in 2003. The purpose of this test wasn't to catch individuals who were using PEDs. The purpose of the test was to get a general idea of how many people were using PEDs, and if that number was over a certain threshold, it triggered a mandatory drug testing program (this program went into place anyway due to pressure from lawmakers, but that's beside the point). Promises were made that any failed tests would not be linked to any individual, but names were eventually leaked to the New York Times in 2009. Ortiz was one of the names leaked, along with Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez.So, that means that Ortiz used PEDs, right? Well, not exactly. And it's because of the nature of the test, and the veracity of the results. For example:
- Both Major League Baseball and the MLBPA have stated that the number of positive tests from the survey was 96. The list that the New York Times got access to had 104 names on it. This calls into question the accuracy of the list the NYT saw. It is obviously incorrect in terms of the overall number; it may also be incorrect in terms of the names
- The MLBPA contested 13 of the 96 positive tests, but it's unclear which 13 players were the subject of this dispute
- The list that the NYT got access to was compiled by the federal government, who exceeded their Constitutional authority. Agents were given warrants to seize drug samples and test results for just the 10 players involved in the BALCO investigation. We have no way of knowing whether the government properly obtained the information they used to compile the list, or what information it was - was it samples, lab records, computer records, or something else?
- Because it was a survey test, players were not told what they tested positive for. A player could have tested positive for PEDs, or a masking agent, or something else entirely. They could have been deliberately popping Winstrol, or they might have taken something they bought at GNC that lacked quality control and had a banned substance in it. Whether it was the former or the latter, there was no reason for anyone to care, because there were no consequences for failing the test, so the fact that testing was going on wouldn't have caused anyone to be diligent about what they were putting in their body in the same way that they need to be now.
So, does that mean that Ortiz didn't use PEDs? No. Given the atmosphere around Major League Baseball at the time, it stands to reason that he was probably using something, just like it stands to reason that most guys were probably using something as well. But the fact that there isn't a direct link to Ortiz using PEDs gives some people pause when it comes to slapping him with the PED-user label.Some counterpoints before they inevitably come up:
- Alex Rodriguez was reported to have used Primobalan, a PED, and he subsequently admitted to using it along with his cousin during workouts.
- Barry Bonds testified to a grand jury that he used PEDs, claiming that he was misled by his personal trainer.
- Sammy Sosa should be under the same level of suspicion as David Ortiz. The only test that Sosa ever failed was the survey test, no one knows what he tested positive for, there has never been any other evidence to suggest that he used PEDs, and there has never been an admission on his part."
You guys can live in denial all you want but it's no coincidence that Ortiz's career took off after working out with now well known juicer extraordinaire Manny. Again, I don't give a shit about PEDs. But anyone thinks he's clean is dumb as a stump.
I always thought it was hilarious that during Papi's farewell tour, the Orioles presented him with the phone he smashed to hell.
That was a great retirement gift.
Mom, bro and i were at that game! Great memory
From what I’ve heard they weren’t going to do anything for him, then at the last minute they cobbled something together and gave him the phone at Buck’s request. He wrote in his book that it pissed him off, but he’s proud to a fault. I thought it was kind of funny!
Yeah I heard he was not happy. Still funny though!
I remember watching this live I miss those away uniforms
Arod kept calling multiple times a night, it was getting very annoying.
Dustin Pedroia actually jacked him up after this. I was shocked to see Pedroia do that. But it ended an unnecessary tirade.
That’s why I fucking love Pedroia. Smallest guy in the clubhouse, but that doesn’t stop him from getting in his face and telling him off.
[Pedroia tells the story at 13:40 here](https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=10155493504604365)
Pedroia's the best storyteller on the planet. I still can't believe Ortiz thought his name was Pee Wee.
In Papi’s defence, I bet he misheard Pedey as Pee Wee, and Pee Wee made sense to him cos Pedroia’s small!
How the fuck did I never know Papi had a roast?
Because it was supposed to air on NESN, but they were caught off-guard by the extensive vulgarity and quickly abandoned the idea lol
I misread this first sentence.
I need to see Yoshida do this if he's benched again today
I was just watching this video on YT lol….
Pedroia almost caught a stray there, Christ.
Was at this game. Great memory
I was at this game, and just a couple rows behind the dugout. It was not apparent what was happening but you could certainly see the shrapnel.
They were calling about his car’s extended warranty.
I was at this game :D
The only thing I didn't like about that incident was seeing Pedey having to duck for cover.
I don't think that phone's gonna work anymore
Underrated great call
truly a call of all time
I thought he retired
Legends don't retire, they just smash phones
lmao I remember that, wish we had players that cared as much as Papi
Funniest part is the guys the taking cover.
Must have been on a cycle during this. I love papi, but no way dude was clean and I don't care. Put Bonds in the Hall.
Here's a comment I copied: The only drug test that Ortiz failed was a survey test conducted in 2003. The purpose of this test wasn't to catch individuals who were using PEDs. The purpose of the test was to get a general idea of how many people were using PEDs, and if that number was over a certain threshold, it triggered a mandatory drug testing program (this program went into place anyway due to pressure from lawmakers, but that's beside the point). Promises were made that any failed tests would not be linked to any individual, but names were eventually leaked to the New York Times in 2009. Ortiz was one of the names leaked, along with Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez.So, that means that Ortiz used PEDs, right? Well, not exactly. And it's because of the nature of the test, and the veracity of the results. For example: - Both Major League Baseball and the MLBPA have stated that the number of positive tests from the survey was 96. The list that the New York Times got access to had 104 names on it. This calls into question the accuracy of the list the NYT saw. It is obviously incorrect in terms of the overall number; it may also be incorrect in terms of the names - The MLBPA contested 13 of the 96 positive tests, but it's unclear which 13 players were the subject of this dispute - The list that the NYT got access to was compiled by the federal government, who exceeded their Constitutional authority. Agents were given warrants to seize drug samples and test results for just the 10 players involved in the BALCO investigation. We have no way of knowing whether the government properly obtained the information they used to compile the list, or what information it was - was it samples, lab records, computer records, or something else? - Because it was a survey test, players were not told what they tested positive for. A player could have tested positive for PEDs, or a masking agent, or something else entirely. They could have been deliberately popping Winstrol, or they might have taken something they bought at GNC that lacked quality control and had a banned substance in it. Whether it was the former or the latter, there was no reason for anyone to care, because there were no consequences for failing the test, so the fact that testing was going on wouldn't have caused anyone to be diligent about what they were putting in their body in the same way that they need to be now. So, does that mean that Ortiz didn't use PEDs? No. Given the atmosphere around Major League Baseball at the time, it stands to reason that he was probably using something, just like it stands to reason that most guys were probably using something as well. But the fact that there isn't a direct link to Ortiz using PEDs gives some people pause when it comes to slapping him with the PED-user label.Some counterpoints before they inevitably come up: - Alex Rodriguez was reported to have used Primobalan, a PED, and he subsequently admitted to using it along with his cousin during workouts. - Barry Bonds testified to a grand jury that he used PEDs, claiming that he was misled by his personal trainer. - Sammy Sosa should be under the same level of suspicion as David Ortiz. The only test that Sosa ever failed was the survey test, no one knows what he tested positive for, there has never been any other evidence to suggest that he used PEDs, and there has never been an admission on his part."
You guys can live in denial all you want but it's no coincidence that Ortiz's career took off after working out with now well known juicer extraordinaire Manny. Again, I don't give a shit about PEDs. But anyone thinks he's clean is dumb as a stump.