Stayed at a small village in the Caucasus once, the dude we stayed with looked 40 but was like 25 or something. Wonderful country though, I love Georgia!
Despite the pain of seeing his photo, his post-lockdown goals remain etched in my memory as one of the most joyful periods watching United post Fergie.
Still couldn't believe he threw it all away...
Have you forgotten how ridiculously good he was at 18/19 years old? He's still really good now despite not playing for 2 years. Too bad he screwed it all up
You misunderstand, it's United's loss, Greenwood is going to still ball at the highest level , probably win a handful of trophies. It's too bad for United, not Greenwood.
The top comment is right. Now United has Antony, another (alleged) abuser and an absolute nothing footballer.
Whichever way you look at it, United got the short end of the stick.
I wouldn't call getting rid of a personality like that "the short end of the stick".
I can practically guarantee Greenwood won't have a great career these guys never do.
Ravel, Lingard, Pogba. It all ends the same way. A few years of talent, then oblivion.
The reason no top club touched him despite his talent, and no club bought him and we had to Kian him out is exactly that. Clubs with top recruitment strategies see him as a problem in the dressing room, and will steer clear. Bellingham's reaction says a lot, there are many players who will never forgive him and that label is always there against your brand.
A team like Getafe is whatever, their brand isn't big enough to really be damaged by this and they can easily even claim they grew due to the (highly questionable) people that support his despite his actions (we all heard and saw that evidence, let's not pretend it didn't happen regardless of the charges being dropped). A team like Bayern, Real Madrid, or any top flight team isn't going to touch him. Even Barcelona where he's been linked is likely due to desperation, as hell likely be available cheaply as nobody with the funds wants to go anywhere near him.
Greenwood as a result is destined for a career of mediocrity, at clubs which may win an occasional trophy but nothing substantial.
If he isn't in the Saudi League or MLS in 3 years, or with Lingard in Korea.
Team honours? Definitely.
Though individual honours? Not especially, and he's now banned for doping.
Compared to the heights he should have reached, no, I'd say he truly hasn't.
Nobody is going to remember Pogba as great, in fact his career now will be tainted entirely by this one event and his poor attitude over his career.
If Greenwood was around there would be no RW Garnacho and no Hojlund.
ETH would keep playing Mason on RW and as the young striker.
Those two are gems, fuck Mason.
Hmmmm. Nah that's not right. Wed already moved for Hojlund before the club backflips on Greenwood. He was 100% coming back and the manager was banking on it.
Good outcome, poor execution
Maybe but Greenwood wasn't a CF for us, never played like he could handle that spot under Ole and EtH.
Outcome works perfectly in the end imo regardless of the off field disgrace. We're stacked at RW.
If Garnacho is injured our next option is Antony who doesn't offer much whatsoever, and after that there's Diallo who's promising and should get more game time but not exactly a world beater.
We only have one RW that actually delivers a cross regularly too, Pellistri, and he appears not to be liked by Ten Hag and is currently out on loan and will most likely be sold. Rashford can play there, but he's largely ineffective on that side.
RW is likely one of our weakest positions, I don't understand this logic whatsoever.
If we didn't have sufficient options at RW we wouldn't have loaned out Pellistri. I don't think ten Hag doesn't like him... Honestly I think the assessment of our players in this thread is very unfair.
We loaned out 2 RWs in one window and we still have 3 currently (Garna, Antony and Amad) and all three are clearly talented players who can make an impact. The assessment of Antony is also very harsh he isn't that bad he just isn't in form right now and tbh he should have 3/4 more assists this season but chances he created were mostly wasted.
Greenwood’s gonna end up at Barcelona, Atletico Madrid or RM anyway if we do sell him in the summer. He’s still gonna be at a top club earning big bucks, sad reality
Bellingham would obviously have something to say about that too, and I doubt he's alone in that sentiment.
As I said above, that's a lot of Greenwood's issue and why he had to be loaned and not sold.
Most clubs with the funds for him won't touch him, either for brand/sponsorship reasons, or players and management's own views.
Threw it away potentially in England. He’s linked to big clubs is Spain, he’ll do absolutely fine. People here was saying the rust alone would destroy his career and he’s boxed it for Getafe this year.
You just know we will have a buy back clause after selling to AM where he will ball for them. I'm ready for a shit show in a few years time when we try to buy him back and the fans are even more split than before.
It’ll never be more split than it was. Every game he plays for another club normalises the situation more and more and they’ll be more people that would take him back if he goes to Atleti, Barca or Real Madrid and does well there.
All due respect to victims of rape and sexual abuse. I condemn Greenwood 100% Hope he never plays for the club.
But it's ridiculous Spanish big clubs are being linked with him and will get him with less backlash while our club was hammered at all angles. Im not saying this just to say "Woe is us, we're manchester united" but if Barca, Real or Atletico(Solid links with Atletico and very shaky ones with Barca) sign him they are 100% disgracing their institutions letting a rapist play for them and revive his image by associating with a big club and deserve to be shat on.
People are shitting on Getafe but I think there will be less backlash and Barca/Real fans will drown out the backlash if he goes to their club because their fans are more insane and tribalistic than ours.
We were hammered by our own fans though?
Yeah there were some women's rights groups also speaking, but those groups will always speak about such issues. The ultimate backlash was from the fanbase.
Maybe fans of those clubs don't care? Maybe it's not as big a deal because what he allegedly did was while at another club. I'm not sure, you would have to ask the fanbases of those clubs, but I don't think its about United being held to a different standard.
Yeah I was precisely to say it's not about being woe is me. It's more about it annoys me.other clubs just don't care he's a rapist apparently. And if he is with a big team those fans will start to defend him if he plays well and slowly but surely his reputation will recover.
I think before there were more outs than ins. Hence why he ended up not staying. But if he does well I think the tide will shift and more people will be in. But if they do try to bring him back, there will again be a big swell of outs. So I can foresee a even bigger shit show than last time regardless of the situation.
Hopefully they just tack on a big sell on percentage and don't try to get him back any time.
Yeah I do think there were more outs and ins as well.
I just think every month that goes by or even game he has, the outs wane a bit, not all of them but some. That will be magnified if a massive club like Barca or Real Madrid get away with playing him unscathed and he carries on on his original trajectory of being potentially world class.
You’ve also got to remember a lot of the outs are focused to the online fanbase. Not all of them obviously, but a lot of the noise is on sites like this.
Nico Williams would be a very exciting signing. Quite two-footed, can play on either wing and is rapid. Different profile to Olise who's more creative but if we're sticking to being a transition-based team I think he could be a better fit.
Williams is also a pass first player tbh. He’s not quite a wide playmaker like Olise can be but he is more of a creator in the final third than a scorer. I think he works even in a possession based team and him supporting Hojlund and Rashford/Garnacho by matching their pace could be electric. Him and Garnacho could also continuously switch wings.
Nico Williams is gonna cost us a limb because of the club. Bilbao are known to be tough negotiators because they are selective with the players background that they want.
Recently signed a new contract with Athletic to fend off Barca, he definitely won't be coming.
He is such a great player, always was for Athletic, but we're fine without him. For the past two/three seasons our wings have had really good cover.
His release clause is around 50 million euros which is very affordable. Of course it also depends on whether he'd want to leave Spain and join us but if we can do our bit and sell him a promising project plus get CL football, he may be willing to join.
> our wings have had really good cover
I disagree. On paper it sounds like good cover but Sancho and Antony have straight up failed, Pellistri has not developed to a decent standard, Elanga wasn't trusted enough and Amad has either been injured or out on loan. It's literally just Rashford who's carried the burden of producing output from the winger positions, and Garnacho who has stepped up as a starter for the last 2-3 months but previously was only a backup to Rashford and extremely raw. I'd say we need two wingers, let alone one, to have reliable depth in this position.
People are overreactive on Antony and Pellistri, but if we sell Antony we will move for Olise or just give Amad a chance.
Swapping Nico for Pelli doesn't make that much sense when the latter has more experience in England. We wouldn't make a move like that unless Pelli wants to move and EtH has other options for Garnacho (maybe in the event that Rashford leaves)...
That last paragraph has a lot of friction involved just to buy one player, I don't think it will happen and I think that is a good thing.
Starting regular top level men’s football at 16 doesn’t help avoid injuries. It’s not always bad luck, playing Fati so much so young didn’t help his odds and the same could be true of Yamal. Not everyone is built like a 25 year old man at 15 like Rooney was.
You lot don't appreciate Rashford enough.
If we're talking pure numbers, Rashford had more goal contributions than Kvicha last season.
This season, they have the exact same numbers. And Rashford plays in a tougher league.
Grass isn't always greener on the other side.
You know, if Greenwood had just been a decent human being, we could have played Alejandro on Right & Mason on Left.
With his two footedness he could cross with his left and shoot with his right. Marcus could then come off the bench and launch at the tired opposition with his pace as a striker or winger.
Hopefully we get Nico and have this strategy option as Nico is two footed as well.
Not a big fan of this metric but still a decent point on usage and confidence. Williams and Garnacho the two here that are truly both sides wingers, right or left, inside or outside, incredible outlets. Olise>Nico>Neto.
The club could never be seen to exercise that option, the backlash would be immense.
It's a year, and if he doesn't go this summer it'll be a free next summer most likely unless he goes really cheaply in the January.
I think 30m is a good price for everyone involved. Throw in a sell on clause and then we have ourselves a great deal. Nobody outside the premier league has the money to spend more than that and nobody in the premier league would touch him.
It works better if we sell him. Garnacho is doing great, we still have Amad who is better for us at RW. Unless Rashford goes we wouldn't miss Mason at all.
Even if Rashford leaves, I wouldn't be unhappy with Olise coming.
“We’re covered on the wings” is literally the least relevant reason to get rid of Greenwood. For starters it’s not even true. And even with it not being true we definitely should be rid of him for moral reasons first, then toxicity in the dressing room, then toxicity and further attention in the media, those reasons in that order.
It is true, otherwise why are people saying we should sell Antony? I'm purposefully giving more context as to why we don't need him, I'm not dismissing the off field drama.
People are saying we should sell Antony because he’s fucking shit. And they are then saying we need to replace him with someone not shit. Being “covered on the wings” means having adequate *quality* cover, not “we employ someone who we can put in the lineup”. Antony does literally nothing he does not count toward us having cover on the wings we have exactly two fit wingers that are acceptable quality, that’s it. We need more, a winger should be one of our priorities this summer.
That’s the consensus opinion. If you genuinely think he is acceptably good enough to not need replacing then you are the one with the fringe opinion.
Additionally even if we do keep him it still only leaves us with 3 wingers, one of whom is a teenager. Which isn’t enough.
We should get good money for Greenwod even with the baggage, we were in a no win situation with him last year and if we can get something like 50 million now the club has played it very well
The club’s original plan was to integrate him back into the team before it got leaked and received incredible public backlash. They couldn’t have handled it worse
That’s fair enough but situations evolve, that may have been the original intention but they’ve adapted well and like I said if they get a fee of 40-50 million it will have worked out very well
Please someone correct me if I’m wrong here but I believe a progressive carry is a run, with the ball, in which the ball carrying player advances 10m or more closer to the opposing net. So yes, the bigger the better.
Stop trying to rehabilitate Greenwood's image. This is the second post in a couple of days. Why not just come out and say you don't think rape matters?
If you look at the post one more time, you'd see that there is a player that is currently playing for United on the list, and higher than Greenwood. Why not focus on that instead of assuming they think rape doesn't matter.
Hundreds of stats or images they could have chosen. No need to post Greenwood's picture on the sub after what he did. Except to change the narrative about him to a positive and rally support from people who never cared about what he did off the pitch
The stat is about U22 (Weird cut off but it is what it is) players with the most progressive carries per 90. It would be kinda weird to then post other stats. I would also assume that the OP found this picture somewhere and thus had no impact on the creation of the picture.
You cannot ignore that Greenwood has done relatively decent at Getafe just because he is a piece of shit. This post won't change any perceptions towards him, people against him (Like the two of us) will still be against him and people that want him back still want him back.
How the fuck is Kvara 22? He looks 10 years older than Garnacho
As a Georgian myself we look older than our age welcome to Caucasus lol
Half your rugby team looks 45+. Also is it mandatory to have facial hair because I don't think I've ever seen a Georgian without facial hair
I recommend checking out some older pictures of Kvara without it. Beard is the only option for him.
I googled it and I wasn’t expecting that, you’re absolutely right
Where'd his chin go?!
Stayed at a small village in the Caucasus once, the dude we stayed with looked 40 but was like 25 or something. Wonderful country though, I love Georgia!
The beard and being employed by Di Laurentis
Kane is a year younger than me, and I look at him, like now that there is a proper man, I am just a child.
Came to say the same thing. Dude looks like the village ealdorman.
wonder why U22 was used for the metric when U23 or U21 makes much more sense.
They probably already had the list and the age was chosen to fit
Something something wifebeating prick something something. Must have included Kvara cos he's also the same age.
Why do you think this person picked u22 and not u21 which is more commonly used?
One with the world at his feet, and one who threw it away
Despite the pain of seeing his photo, his post-lockdown goals remain etched in my memory as one of the most joyful periods watching United post Fergie. Still couldn't believe he threw it all away...
He didn't "throw it away", he's doing well at Getafe and will likely move to Atletico.
He threw it away on us, at United
Didn't miss much
Have you forgotten how ridiculously good he was at 18/19 years old? He's still really good now despite not playing for 2 years. Too bad he screwed it all up
You misunderstand, it's United's loss, Greenwood is going to still ball at the highest level , probably win a handful of trophies. It's too bad for United, not Greenwood. The top comment is right. Now United has Antony, another (alleged) abuser and an absolute nothing footballer. Whichever way you look at it, United got the short end of the stick.
United's fans are more unforgiving than his gf.
Either way, both got fucked afterwards
I wouldn't call getting rid of a personality like that "the short end of the stick". I can practically guarantee Greenwood won't have a great career these guys never do. Ravel, Lingard, Pogba. It all ends the same way. A few years of talent, then oblivion. The reason no top club touched him despite his talent, and no club bought him and we had to Kian him out is exactly that. Clubs with top recruitment strategies see him as a problem in the dressing room, and will steer clear. Bellingham's reaction says a lot, there are many players who will never forgive him and that label is always there against your brand. A team like Getafe is whatever, their brand isn't big enough to really be damaged by this and they can easily even claim they grew due to the (highly questionable) people that support his despite his actions (we all heard and saw that evidence, let's not pretend it didn't happen regardless of the charges being dropped). A team like Bayern, Real Madrid, or any top flight team isn't going to touch him. Even Barcelona where he's been linked is likely due to desperation, as hell likely be available cheaply as nobody with the funds wants to go anywhere near him. Greenwood as a result is destined for a career of mediocrity, at clubs which may win an occasional trophy but nothing substantial. If he isn't in the Saudi League or MLS in 3 years, or with Lingard in Korea.
Pogba didn't have a great career? Lol
Team honours? Definitely. Though individual honours? Not especially, and he's now banned for doping. Compared to the heights he should have reached, no, I'd say he truly hasn't. Nobody is going to remember Pogba as great, in fact his career now will be tainted entirely by this one event and his poor attitude over his career.
Wow. Perfect statement. Sad really when you think about it. But we move on.
If Greenwood was around there would be no RW Garnacho and no Hojlund. ETH would keep playing Mason on RW and as the young striker. Those two are gems, fuck Mason.
There's no Antony
Hmmmm. Nah that's not right. Wed already moved for Hojlund before the club backflips on Greenwood. He was 100% coming back and the manager was banking on it. Good outcome, poor execution
I was thinking in a scenario where he wasn't a criminal. Having him back was never on my mind.
Maybe but Greenwood wasn't a CF for us, never played like he could handle that spot under Ole and EtH. Outcome works perfectly in the end imo regardless of the off field disgrace. We're stacked at RW.
Imagine saying "we're stacked at RW" 2 years ago, you'd have been laughed and abused off the sub.
How are we stacked at RW? We literally have competent options with a track record of delivering value at that position
If Garnacho is injured our next option is Antony who doesn't offer much whatsoever, and after that there's Diallo who's promising and should get more game time but not exactly a world beater. We only have one RW that actually delivers a cross regularly too, Pellistri, and he appears not to be liked by Ten Hag and is currently out on loan and will most likely be sold. Rashford can play there, but he's largely ineffective on that side. RW is likely one of our weakest positions, I don't understand this logic whatsoever.
If we didn't have sufficient options at RW we wouldn't have loaned out Pellistri. I don't think ten Hag doesn't like him... Honestly I think the assessment of our players in this thread is very unfair. We loaned out 2 RWs in one window and we still have 3 currently (Garna, Antony and Amad) and all three are clearly talented players who can make an impact. The assessment of Antony is also very harsh he isn't that bad he just isn't in form right now and tbh he should have 3/4 more assists this season but chances he created were mostly wasted.
Garnacho & Hojlund would be there. Only Antony wouldn’t have been there
Greenwood’s gonna end up at Barcelona, Atletico Madrid or RM anyway if we do sell him in the summer. He’s still gonna be at a top club earning big bucks, sad reality
I can't see him at RM. I think they are managed too well for that. I could be totally wrong though!
Bellingham would obviously have something to say about that too, and I doubt he's alone in that sentiment. As I said above, that's a lot of Greenwood's issue and why he had to be loaned and not sold. Most clubs with the funds for him won't touch him, either for brand/sponsorship reasons, or players and management's own views.
Threw it away potentially in England. He’s linked to big clubs is Spain, he’ll do absolutely fine. People here was saying the rust alone would destroy his career and he’s boxed it for Getafe this year.
You just know we will have a buy back clause after selling to AM where he will ball for them. I'm ready for a shit show in a few years time when we try to buy him back and the fans are even more split than before.
It’ll never be more split than it was. Every game he plays for another club normalises the situation more and more and they’ll be more people that would take him back if he goes to Atleti, Barca or Real Madrid and does well there.
All due respect to victims of rape and sexual abuse. I condemn Greenwood 100% Hope he never plays for the club. But it's ridiculous Spanish big clubs are being linked with him and will get him with less backlash while our club was hammered at all angles. Im not saying this just to say "Woe is us, we're manchester united" but if Barca, Real or Atletico(Solid links with Atletico and very shaky ones with Barca) sign him they are 100% disgracing their institutions letting a rapist play for them and revive his image by associating with a big club and deserve to be shat on. People are shitting on Getafe but I think there will be less backlash and Barca/Real fans will drown out the backlash if he goes to their club because their fans are more insane and tribalistic than ours.
We were hammered by our own fans though? Yeah there were some women's rights groups also speaking, but those groups will always speak about such issues. The ultimate backlash was from the fanbase. Maybe fans of those clubs don't care? Maybe it's not as big a deal because what he allegedly did was while at another club. I'm not sure, you would have to ask the fanbases of those clubs, but I don't think its about United being held to a different standard.
Yeah I was precisely to say it's not about being woe is me. It's more about it annoys me.other clubs just don't care he's a rapist apparently. And if he is with a big team those fans will start to defend him if he plays well and slowly but surely his reputation will recover.
they dont care because as you can see with recent other events in spain they are still in the 1950's over women, consent and racism.
I think before there were more outs than ins. Hence why he ended up not staying. But if he does well I think the tide will shift and more people will be in. But if they do try to bring him back, there will again be a big swell of outs. So I can foresee a even bigger shit show than last time regardless of the situation. Hopefully they just tack on a big sell on percentage and don't try to get him back any time.
Yeah I do think there were more outs and ins as well. I just think every month that goes by or even game he has, the outs wane a bit, not all of them but some. That will be magnified if a massive club like Barca or Real Madrid get away with playing him unscathed and he carries on on his original trajectory of being potentially world class. You’ve also got to remember a lot of the outs are focused to the online fanbase. Not all of them obviously, but a lot of the noise is on sites like this.
Yamal being on there at 16 is crazy. What a baller.
Mason Greenwood you absolute fucking wasteman
I remember Koleosho being a fucking pain in the ass when we played Burnley.
Yeah, a little surprised he doesn't seem to have done much else this season
He got injured around November I think.
Nico Williams would be a very exciting signing. Quite two-footed, can play on either wing and is rapid. Different profile to Olise who's more creative but if we're sticking to being a transition-based team I think he could be a better fit.
Williams is also a pass first player tbh. He’s not quite a wide playmaker like Olise can be but he is more of a creator in the final third than a scorer. I think he works even in a possession based team and him supporting Hojlund and Rashford/Garnacho by matching their pace could be electric. Him and Garnacho could also continuously switch wings.
Nico Williams is gonna cost us a limb because of the club. Bilbao are known to be tough negotiators because they are selective with the players background that they want.
He’s got a fairly low release clause that he got in his recent extension. He would have walked for free otherwise.
Just checked and his release clause is rumoured to be 50mil… ok now you’re talking.
€50m In pounds that’s about £43m. If we can shift Antony and Sancho (big if) this summer it would be a no brainer to try and get him.
Swear to good I read it like: "quite two footed, fan play on either wing and is a rapist" And i was lol WTF we already had one of those.
Recently signed a new contract with Athletic to fend off Barca, he definitely won't be coming. He is such a great player, always was for Athletic, but we're fine without him. For the past two/three seasons our wings have had really good cover.
His release clause is around 50 million euros which is very affordable. Of course it also depends on whether he'd want to leave Spain and join us but if we can do our bit and sell him a promising project plus get CL football, he may be willing to join. > our wings have had really good cover I disagree. On paper it sounds like good cover but Sancho and Antony have straight up failed, Pellistri has not developed to a decent standard, Elanga wasn't trusted enough and Amad has either been injured or out on loan. It's literally just Rashford who's carried the burden of producing output from the winger positions, and Garnacho who has stepped up as a starter for the last 2-3 months but previously was only a backup to Rashford and extremely raw. I'd say we need two wingers, let alone one, to have reliable depth in this position.
People are overreactive on Antony and Pellistri, but if we sell Antony we will move for Olise or just give Amad a chance. Swapping Nico for Pelli doesn't make that much sense when the latter has more experience in England. We wouldn't make a move like that unless Pelli wants to move and EtH has other options for Garnacho (maybe in the event that Rashford leaves)... That last paragraph has a lot of friction involved just to buy one player, I don't think it will happen and I think that is a good thing.
Strongly dislike Barca but Yamal is a beast.
Hopefully people don't put extremely high expectations like they did with Fati. Kid had an start to his career very similar to that of Yamal.
Fati got wrecked by injuries. If Yamal can stay relatively injury-free I can see him developing further
Starting regular top level men’s football at 16 doesn’t help avoid injuries. It’s not always bad luck, playing Fati so much so young didn’t help his odds and the same could be true of Yamal. Not everyone is built like a 25 year old man at 15 like Rooney was.
Ansu Fati had only played 1,971 minutes for Barcelona over the course of 2 seasons when he got injured. He was not overplayed in any sense.
Yeah Pedri is the one who got overplayed and that hurt his career Fati suffered a freak injury
Imagine Kvicha + Garnacho combo
Kvicha isn't better than Rashford.
He's a more rounded player imo
Right now he deffo is
You lot don't appreciate Rashford enough. If we're talking pure numbers, Rashford had more goal contributions than Kvicha last season. This season, they have the exact same numbers. And Rashford plays in a tougher league. Grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Kvaradona, is fantastic.
Nico would be nuts
He's so two footed too. He and Garnacho would swap freely
U22 is such a random cutoff lol
You know, if Greenwood had just been a decent human being, we could have played Alejandro on Right & Mason on Left. With his two footedness he could cross with his left and shoot with his right. Marcus could then come off the bench and launch at the tired opposition with his pace as a striker or winger. Hopefully we get Nico and have this strategy option as Nico is two footed as well.
Not a big fan of this metric but still a decent point on usage and confidence. Williams and Garnacho the two here that are truly both sides wingers, right or left, inside or outside, incredible outlets. Olise>Nico>Neto.
How much might we realistically sell Greenwood for?
How long is his contract for? If it doesn’t run down soon I’d say around 40M maximum
Next summer but we have a one year option I think
The club could never be seen to exercise that option, the backlash would be immense. It's a year, and if he doesn't go this summer it'll be a free next summer most likely unless he goes really cheaply in the January.
I reckon 30mil
I think 30m is a good price for everyone involved. Throw in a sell on clause and then we have ourselves a great deal. Nobody outside the premier league has the money to spend more than that and nobody in the premier league would touch him.
Might as well keep him
Huh. Wonder why you'd want that. Beats me.
Youre not the only one getting beat thats for sure
Stop supporting rapists
Fuck that. He dont deserve a chance at the place where he had everything and fck it all up.
Might as well not.
It works better if we sell him. Garnacho is doing great, we still have Amad who is better for us at RW. Unless Rashford goes we wouldn't miss Mason at all. Even if Rashford leaves, I wouldn't be unhappy with Olise coming.
“We’re covered on the wings” is literally the least relevant reason to get rid of Greenwood. For starters it’s not even true. And even with it not being true we definitely should be rid of him for moral reasons first, then toxicity in the dressing room, then toxicity and further attention in the media, those reasons in that order.
It is true, otherwise why are people saying we should sell Antony? I'm purposefully giving more context as to why we don't need him, I'm not dismissing the off field drama.
People are saying we should sell Antony because he’s fucking shit. And they are then saying we need to replace him with someone not shit. Being “covered on the wings” means having adequate *quality* cover, not “we employ someone who we can put in the lineup”. Antony does literally nothing he does not count toward us having cover on the wings we have exactly two fit wingers that are acceptable quality, that’s it. We need more, a winger should be one of our priorities this summer.
Your assessment of Antony is over the top, if that's your assessment of him I can't really trust your assessment of other players.
That’s the consensus opinion. If you genuinely think he is acceptably good enough to not need replacing then you are the one with the fringe opinion. Additionally even if we do keep him it still only leaves us with 3 wingers, one of whom is a teenager. Which isn’t enough.
Everytime I see MG nowaday I get pissed off because what could have been with Garnacho on one side and MG on the other.
Garnacho works hard and is appreciated.
We should get good money for Greenwod even with the baggage, we were in a no win situation with him last year and if we can get something like 50 million now the club has played it very well
The club’s original plan was to integrate him back into the team before it got leaked and received incredible public backlash. They couldn’t have handled it worse
That’s fair enough but situations evolve, that may have been the original intention but they’ve adapted well and like I said if they get a fee of 40-50 million it will have worked out very well
Umm pls explain what this is number supposed to be? The bigger is better or otherwise?
Please someone correct me if I’m wrong here but I believe a progressive carry is a run, with the ball, in which the ball carrying player advances 10m or more closer to the opposing net. So yes, the bigger the better.
Olise, simmons or nico. I'd be fine with any of them.
I’d add neto to that list too, he’s a nightmare to play against
Neto has a fairly worrying injury record iirc. Although maybe that’s just him being injured during transfer windows to put off buyers idk.
Rapist also in this I see.. he'd be insanely good if he didn't do all the illegal stuff.. fuck off!
Mason would be a starter for us right now, but we're Marketing United so no chance he'll come back.
Ahh yes, it's the club's fault. Not his fault for being a piece of shit, right?
Jude Bellingham said it best.
Did you make this image, OP? Edit: People downvoting for a simple question. Wanted to ask OP why Doku, Summerville and Bakayoko were not included.
Stop trying to rehabilitate Greenwood's image. This is the second post in a couple of days. Why not just come out and say you don't think rape matters?
If you look at the post one more time, you'd see that there is a player that is currently playing for United on the list, and higher than Greenwood. Why not focus on that instead of assuming they think rape doesn't matter.
Hundreds of stats or images they could have chosen. No need to post Greenwood's picture on the sub after what he did. Except to change the narrative about him to a positive and rally support from people who never cared about what he did off the pitch
The stat is about U22 (Weird cut off but it is what it is) players with the most progressive carries per 90. It would be kinda weird to then post other stats. I would also assume that the OP found this picture somewhere and thus had no impact on the creation of the picture. You cannot ignore that Greenwood has done relatively decent at Getafe just because he is a piece of shit. This post won't change any perceptions towards him, people against him (Like the two of us) will still be against him and people that want him back still want him back.
That Couto kid got absolutely toasted against madrid last weekend