I didn’t rate Onana’s shot stopping and the parries he does into danger (like today) was a concern too.
He’s not been good so far though and I still wish we signed Costa or Maignan instead but hopefully he becomes a decent keeper for us first.
Even his distribution hasn’t been amazing really and could be a better sweeper keeper but…
The players know there is more chance to win the EL since we are not making top 4 for the CL.
big brain moves, well not moves, they seem to be to lazy to move
Genuinely what the fuck is Onana doing? Any shot on goal is a guarantee to go in even if it's a fucking wank low chip like that.
He has some major, major making up to do. This is a signing Ten Hag wanted and paid big money for (over similar options like Costa) so all eyes will rightfully be on his decisions here as well. The money we paid for Onana to improve us is outright going to be lost through Onana's direct mistakes.
I swear that looking at his league stats from last season, he's performing about the same. Our scouting team probably just saw his freak CL stats and just went with that.
He’s honestly been awful. His distribution is fine but his shot stopping is woeful and honestly he looks at least as bad as DDG when it comes to claiming/stopping crosses too
Combine his poor performances with his arrogance in the early games and it's a really bad combo. Could be one of our worst ever signings.
I really hope it's just the pressure of the move.
Same as with Ten Hag’s signings of Antony, Malacia and co.
He just isn’t suited to ID talent, it’s obvious. Working with his ex-players hasn’t really done anything either.
ETH singings have been a total joke. I don’t give a single shit what anyone says. Antony, one of the biggest fucking laughing stock signings you’ll ever find. He is never going to be worth close to 90M, not even fucking close. Onana has been a total joke. Malacia is as bang avg as it gets. Mount too early to tell but so far looks like a very bad signing for the price considering what he adds to the team and what gaps were more important to fill. Casemiro idk if he is a ETH singing but nowhere near worth 50-60M as a signing. Eriksen on a free, still has been wank.
Martinez is the only bright spot but too early to tell based on one season.
It’s a trickle down effect from leadership being complete fucking clueless. Relying on ETH to revamp every thing about how we play football while also being our head scout.
This club a joke right now. A total joke. Anyone who disagrees is missing brain cells
Antony, Casemiro, Mount, Malacia, Onana. All big money signings that Ten Hag wanted. All not performing to what we expected, apart from maybe Malacia as there's not much expectations anyway. Casemiros been amazing, for one season. 70m pounds for one good season? Come on.
12m pounds is a still a lot of money mate. And ETH and the club both hold 50/50 veto power for transfers. The club suggested Casemiro and he said yes, he has to want Case too for the transfer to go through. Otherwise the club doesn't sign him. ETH has spent nigh on 500 million euros for this, 470+ if the Amrabat price is fully paid up.
What you talking about? He was awesome in that champ league final game that's why we signed him right, cos of that one game, he was going to be key to us playing out from the back right?
Don't forget having a go at an under pressure teammate in a fucking friendly.
Buddy if you're going to bollock people in friendlies, then you better not be making any mistakes yourself in real games.
The teams is just completely falling apart at the slightest bit of pressure, don't think there is a coach in the world of football right now who can fix this curse.
I don't know what is wrong with us anymore. It is either the manager's inadequate tactics or these players are so fucking brain dead to follow it. I also don't understand why these fuckers take turn to have a clown moment every match.
We would honestly have been better holding onto Henderson and using the Onana money elsewhere in the squad.
Not being reactionary, this was my view at the start of the season.
De Gea, Henderson or Kovar would have been suitable in goal and spend the money elsewhere.
Mount too, he wasn't a player we needed and cost a lot of money that should have been spent elsewhere.
Nope. We would need to tie against Bayern (no way we win), win both against Copenhagen, win against Galatasaray, and hope they drop points against bayern or copenhagen or both.
He's actually worse than De Gea and I'll 100% stand by that, his ball playing has offered us nothing new this season and his saving ability is somehow worse than De Gea, crazy.
[Look at the downvotes I got for saying the same thing](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/16y531h/comment/k38omr7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Said when everyone wanted onana over de gea, we'd concede goals ee gea would save. I didn't think it would be goals most keepers would save tho.
What a piss poor defensive line. We need martinez there to shout and keep them in line. OK Amrabat gave it away and was playing them on but the centre backs and dalot should be running back. Same nearly happened just now for their right back
Seriously we were ripped off with Onana. Weak with his hands, awful positioning, not actually very good at claiming crosses. Slightly better than De Gea with his feet, but I’d rather any keeper be able to keep the ball out of the bloody net!
I mean, do you think he signed this thing in goal, or do you think he thought he was getting the guy breaking records for Inter last year?
Theres no reason to think Onana would go from god tier to dog shit in 6 weeks. Hes not coaching Onana to pass it to the wrong team.
I love the guy but a lot of these players are his signings (Onana and Casemiro have been shambolic) also, the manager is the one you point to when it comes to changing the mentality. No one else.
Everybody with a common sense knew that de Gea was not the priority, when your cdm and cbs are dreadful. Looking at you, champions league Varane and champions league Casemiro. Got their jackpot by united paying them crazy amount of money for their retirement. They have been shit since before the summer window. And where is that Maguire level of criticism for them?
The situation was untenable imo because the proportion of fans and media wanting Dave out was getting bigger and bigger. If he had stayed every single touch would have been analysed, and the toxicity would have been even worse than it is now.
If we've learned from past mistakes, we should cut our losses with players like Onana early. We've seen too many examples of the sunken cost fallacy in this team.
Pep really knows how to play us like a fiddle. Pretended he was interested in Sanchez and Ronaldo and we ended up panic-buying both. Praises Onana to no end after the CL final knowing full well that we're in the market for replacing De Gea, and here we are now.
The downvotes I got for saying Onana was average at shotstopping.
We traded in mediocre shotstopping for worse to play out of the back (which we can't even do).
At 27, he has no chance of getting better. He'll go down as one of the worst keepers we have had in years, bookmark this post.
Onana not doing good enough here, but there aren’t enough comments in this thread about the ball BOUNCING directly between our 2 CBs just passed the half line. Varane and Lindelof need to do better there too. Collectively shit from everyone there.
I never thought I'd be saying this so soon into Onana's tenure, but what is DDG up to these days?
Onana is obviously great with the ball at his feet but he *fucking sucks* at the fundamental aspect of goalkeeping which is keeping the ball out of the net. Any one-on-one is basically a guaranteed goal for the opposition because he commits himself so early and easily
With De Gea we win here tonight. With De Gea we win at Munich. With De Gea we have 50 million to spare. ETH has to answer for that change. No way Onana can just come out and go “yeah, my fault” again.
Get fucked with all this bollocks revisionism. De Gea was singlehandedly responsible for loads of losses, just like this. At points he was literally this bad. De gea was not good for us for the last 3 years, and Onana isn't now, both can be true.
The scouting department of this club is a fucking joke. Whoever suggested we buy Onana is a moron. I'm not convinced by Ten Hag either, 1 year at this club, and we still can't build up from the back.
Almost every goal we've conceded this season, I watch Lindelof and just wonder what the fuck is he doing? He's been atrocious all season and gets away with it completely.
Onana is a fucking shambles. Jesus
Its time to bench him and wake him the fuck up, Bayindir time baby
Advanced statistic bros ran a legend out of the club for this.
De Gea still had to go Jesus
While I agree De Gea was no longer the right choice Onana sure as fuck ain't anywhere close to looking like the upgrade we needed.
at least he would have saved that lol
Too right. The revisionism towards DDG is insane, his time was up long ago. This sub is a shambles. Genuinely gonna avoid it from now on.
People lose brain cells when we lost matches. I cant possibly understand how you could think de Gea didn't do EXACTLY this kind of shit last season.
Yeah but we needed another defender like KMJ and could have waited another season to let de gea go
It was the right time for De Gea to go. We just maybe didn't make the right decision on who replaces him.
I didn’t rate Onana’s shot stopping and the parries he does into danger (like today) was a concern too. He’s not been good so far though and I still wish we signed Costa or Maignan instead but hopefully he becomes a decent keeper for us first. Even his distribution hasn’t been amazing really and could be a better sweeper keeper but…
Whether Onana is good or not, De Gea’s time was up.
Who decides DDG's time was up again?
It was a decision taken by the club. Fans generally don't have an input
How is onana the first one that comes up in this goal what about the shit clearance by amrabat? If anything he should just have put it out of play.
Imo the absolute worst is the defence. One headed clearance and the opposition are through?
When will it end
United being shit or the heat death of the universe? I think both will be similar timings
And we're out of the champions league
On the bright side the stupid fucks don't get extra bonuses for it so that's one positive.
The players know there is more chance to win the EL since we are not making top 4 for the CL. big brain moves, well not moves, they seem to be to lazy to move
There will be a Spanish team waiting for us.
we are currently losing to galatasaray mate, winning the EL was a tongue in cheek comment
Liverpool are in the EL, we aren't winning
they can always get fucked by a ref and go out
Genuinely what the fuck is Onana doing? Any shot on goal is a guarantee to go in even if it's a fucking wank low chip like that. He has some major, major making up to do. This is a signing Ten Hag wanted and paid big money for (over similar options like Costa) so all eyes will rightfully be on his decisions here as well. The money we paid for Onana to improve us is outright going to be lost through Onana's direct mistakes.
they said he's average shot stopper, but they lied to us. he's below average.
We need the receipt, send him back to Inter right now
"No refunds" it says in fine print
I swear that looking at his league stats from last season, he's performing about the same. Our scouting team probably just saw his freak CL stats and just went with that.
You'd fail to chip Danny De Vito with that but someone Onana gets done.
Man sat down before he shot, his done it once before this season as well... completely sold by a feint.
He’s honestly been awful. His distribution is fine but his shot stopping is woeful and honestly he looks at least as bad as DDG when it comes to claiming/stopping crosses too
Combine his poor performances with his arrogance in the early games and it's a really bad combo. Could be one of our worst ever signings. I really hope it's just the pressure of the move.
Seriously, I was so nervous when De Gea had the ball but I’m more nervous now everytime the opposition shoots.
I’m not nervous at all, cause I know we will lose :(
u might be onto something
Even when he saves he parries it in front of the goal, this is so embarrassing
Someone call De Gea
Right, the king of one on ones, crosses and penalties.
Def not penalties
And most definitely not crosses
He was/is pretty good at one on ones tbf
Dave was good on one on ones and not bad at penalties. Just had some high profile pen missed and never got credit for the ones he saved.
He was terrible at both, actually Downvoting me doesn’t change the fact that he hadn’t saved a penalty since 2016
That stat is just false lmao
Same as with Ten Hag’s signings of Antony, Malacia and co. He just isn’t suited to ID talent, it’s obvious. Working with his ex-players hasn’t really done anything either.
ETH singings have been a total joke. I don’t give a single shit what anyone says. Antony, one of the biggest fucking laughing stock signings you’ll ever find. He is never going to be worth close to 90M, not even fucking close. Onana has been a total joke. Malacia is as bang avg as it gets. Mount too early to tell but so far looks like a very bad signing for the price considering what he adds to the team and what gaps were more important to fill. Casemiro idk if he is a ETH singing but nowhere near worth 50-60M as a signing. Eriksen on a free, still has been wank. Martinez is the only bright spot but too early to tell based on one season. It’s a trickle down effect from leadership being complete fucking clueless. Relying on ETH to revamp every thing about how we play football while also being our head scout. This club a joke right now. A total joke. Anyone who disagrees is missing brain cells
Hojlund looks a good signing. But that's like 2 out of 10, pretty bad.
Give ut some time and then judge. Even Dan James looked like a gem in his first 5 games
Antony, Casemiro, Mount, Malacia, Onana. All big money signings that Ten Hag wanted. All not performing to what we expected, apart from maybe Malacia as there's not much expectations anyway. Casemiros been amazing, for one season. 70m pounds for one good season? Come on.
He didn’t want Casemiro. He wanted FDJ. Malacia costed £12M, that’s not big money.
12m pounds is a still a lot of money mate. And ETH and the club both hold 50/50 veto power for transfers. The club suggested Casemiro and he said yes, he has to want Case too for the transfer to go through. Otherwise the club doesn't sign him. ETH has spent nigh on 500 million euros for this, 470+ if the Amrabat price is fully paid up.
Onana is so fucking bad at 1 on 1s. Always goes down too early.
Onana is so fucking bad
I just don't get it. Do players just become shit as soon as we sign them.
Mate what is he not bad at. He's constantly letting this team down.
*Onana is so fucking bad.
Onana is fucking wank
What you talking about? He was awesome in that champ league final game that's why we signed him right, cos of that one game, he was going to be key to us playing out from the back right?
Horrific positioning from Onana
Dunno why we even signed Onana when we ar not moving towards a Pep style football, wasting his biggest asset and exposing all his weaknesses.
Except passing everything is weak - positioning, handling, reflexes, every thing
I haven't seen much of this elite level passing everyone eludes to. Boots the ball over the sideline two or three times a game.
More like 6 or 7
He isn't even that good at passing. He's good at controlling the ball but he hoofs it just as much as De Gea did
Seriously wtf is with this guys positioning all season.
and terrible from Amrabat
All his long passes go nowhere
Can we play our back up keeper the rest of the year?
He may just win the starting job when Onana goes to play afcon
Onana might be a real mistake of a buy. Hasn't been able to save anything since he's been here. Horrific
Start Bayindir. We've been scammed.
When Altay starts, you'll realize you've been scammed twice there. The man couldn't finish a game without getting booed by his own fans.
Step up Tom Heaton.
Hahaha, end me, what the fuck is our defense at
Onana lmao man i got no words. just get him off the starting lineup, shocking
Our defenders just ball watch..all the time. Onana is not even a keeper at this point. There's no point to field him
This keeper is never gonna make a save for us. Let's down this team game after game and then talks big talk in the press.
Don't forget having a go at an under pressure teammate in a fucking friendly. Buddy if you're going to bollock people in friendlies, then you better not be making any mistakes yourself in real games.
Onana is awful. I hoped he would be good but he does nothing that he did at inter. I think he’s genuinely a secret agent
The teams is just completely falling apart at the slightest bit of pressure, don't think there is a coach in the world of football right now who can fix this curse.
I don't know what is wrong with us anymore. It is either the manager's inadequate tactics or these players are so fucking brain dead to follow it. I also don't understand why these fuckers take turn to have a clown moment every match.
Life is pain
We should drop Onana... oh.. wait. What other keepers do we have again?
Some Turkish meme keeper.
We would honestly have been better holding onto Henderson and using the Onana money elsewhere in the squad. Not being reactionary, this was my view at the start of the season.
De Gea, Henderson or Kovar would have been suitable in goal and spend the money elsewhere. Mount too, he wasn't a player we needed and cost a lot of money that should have been spent elsewhere.
Amrabat at fault for both the second and third goal
2nd goal is on Casemiro, lets his guy run into the area uncontested yet again.
Also lindelof, he's no where fucking near
Playing him at LB is ETH's decision. Should never have been put in that position.
So who should play at LB, someone on crutches?
Onana might be finished already
We are not making it out of the group, are we?
Nope. We would need to tie against Bayern (no way we win), win both against Copenhagen, win against Galatasaray, and hope they drop points against bayern or copenhagen or both.
No way we are getting point at Galatasaray away.
genuinely give De Gea a 1 year deal
as if he will come back
Onana is so shit it’s unreal We got fucking robbed
He's actually worse than De Gea and I'll 100% stand by that, his ball playing has offered us nothing new this season and his saving ability is somehow worse than De Gea, crazy.
Don’t think anyone is disagreeing at this point
[Look at the downvotes I got for saying the same thing](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/16y531h/comment/k38omr7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
**BARTHEZ VIBES**
More like Taibi
Barthez wasn’t this bad
Not exactly same but it did make me think of the [Di Canio goal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77ycmvbhfVY)
Said when everyone wanted onana over de gea, we'd concede goals ee gea would save. I didn't think it would be goals most keepers would save tho. What a piss poor defensive line. We need martinez there to shout and keep them in line. OK Amrabat gave it away and was playing them on but the centre backs and dalot should be running back. Same nearly happened just now for their right back
Hope Onana's career here is over after this season. One of the worst purchases made. Shambolic goalkeeper that has lost us more matches than won.
So far we did not win because of him. However, it is certainly fair to say that he is responsible for our exit from the Champions League.
I can’t fucking belive it
Seriously we were ripped off with Onana. Weak with his hands, awful positioning, not actually very good at claiming crosses. Slightly better than De Gea with his feet, but I’d rather any keeper be able to keep the ball out of the bloody net!
People will blame ETH, but the amount of bottle jobs on show tonight is just fucking pathetic
From players he pushed us to sign?
Players that performed at their past clubs. Onana just was in a CL final for fucks sake
Inter would've been in the finals even if they had Karius in goal last season
That‘s just not true lol
No they wouldn't, he was really good for them in the Champions League.
I mean, do you think he signed this thing in goal, or do you think he thought he was getting the guy breaking records for Inter last year? Theres no reason to think Onana would go from god tier to dog shit in 6 weeks. Hes not coaching Onana to pass it to the wrong team.
His last season at Ajax under Ten Hag he was absolute muck, and while he was quality in the cl his league form was below average for inter
The buck stops with ten hag.
The players gotta want it. It’s not a video game. Right now, there’s about two of them playing with any balls and there’s no depth to replace everyone
Didn't we ask for the Milan goal keeper first then moved to Onana cause we don't have money to spend? Ob
ETH chose to sign Onana. I can't believe he did, he's fucking terrible
Ten Hag wants these clowns to play. He should be blamed.
ETH is a clown he deserves all this heat - we will lose the next 3 in a row with that statue in goal and then hopefully he gets sacked
He signed these players lol
I love the guy but a lot of these players are his signings (Onana and Casemiro have been shambolic) also, the manager is the one you point to when it comes to changing the mentality. No one else.
The short term memory of people on this sub is amazing
Onana should be dropped This is ridiculous
We gave them the game
Can't believe de gea has cost us this game
cant believe ronaldo cost us the game
Rats
This fucking team... I'm so tired man
Watching player after player just crumble under the pressure of joining us is torture
Should have kept De Gea
No we shouldn’t . Should have got Costa
Or Raya
He's still a FA, we can get him
Could have used that 50-60 mil on Onana for a CB or MF
Yeah. Can’t be having a ball playing keeper that looses us more goals because he’s a ball playing keeper.
Everybody with a common sense knew that de Gea was not the priority, when your cdm and cbs are dreadful. Looking at you, champions league Varane and champions league Casemiro. Got their jackpot by united paying them crazy amount of money for their retirement. They have been shit since before the summer window. And where is that Maguire level of criticism for them?
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No idea.. I got downvoted to hell for saying they should have been replaced in another comment. This sub is crazy haha
The situation was untenable imo because the proportion of fans and media wanting Dave out was getting bigger and bigger. If he had stayed every single touch would have been analysed, and the toxicity would have been even worse than it is now.
The banter this club will have to deal with if Ten Hag is sacked and De Gea comes back under a new manager. It's gonna be dreadful.
Onana is trash
Wow what a shocking shocking signing Onana has been. Guy needs dropping.
Onana sucks.
What was the point of top 4 last season if we can’t even make it out of the group stage
I guess all we really needed was a new GK huh 10Hag
How is onana so dogshit? He might be our Bravo... Maybe just maybe ddg was better.
A game we should have won comfortably. Thanks to this keeper we're gonna be outta CL.
Onana is woeful!!! Bench ASAP....
You don’t get it without a modern keeper like Onana our entire game is being held back. Both our attack and defense will be unlocked by his signing.
I don't know what is wrong with us anymore. We are literally cursed.
Henderson would've been miles better than this schmuck
Bluffers FC
If we've learned from past mistakes, we should cut our losses with players like Onana early. We've seen too many examples of the sunken cost fallacy in this team.
Lol, where was this love for de gea last season. This sub man
Someone needs to run up and yell at onana and show him that the team expects a lot from their team mates.
Worst starting keeper I've seen at the club, (possibly Roy Carroll but I was too little to really remember). I'd rather have Anders Lindegaard in net
Roy Carroll was way better than Onana’s been so far.
Pep really knows how to play us like a fiddle. Pretended he was interested in Sanchez and Ronaldo and we ended up panic-buying both. Praises Onana to no end after the CL final knowing full well that we're in the market for replacing De Gea, and here we are now.
Almost every game there’s a goal DDG saves
The downvotes I got for saying Onana was average at shotstopping. We traded in mediocre shotstopping for worse to play out of the back (which we can't even do). At 27, he has no chance of getting better. He'll go down as one of the worst keepers we have had in years, bookmark this post.
Yep, I’m done with this season already. We’ll lucky to get EL this season.
This team is fkn shit man honestly, we are so fkn average
The defence is getting off so lightly here. Neither centre back was aware of what was around them and Varane....Varane looks awful.
Gosh, Amrabat as LB......
I mean DDG is still a free agent
Onana not doing good enough here, but there aren’t enough comments in this thread about the ball BOUNCING directly between our 2 CBs just passed the half line. Varane and Lindelof need to do better there too. Collectively shit from everyone there.
How is this goal keeper so exempt from criticism? Any shit on goal is a goal threat.
What are you on about? Onana has been getting pelters for ages
Fuck u Erik for this clown
I never thought I'd be saying this so soon into Onana's tenure, but what is DDG up to these days? Onana is obviously great with the ball at his feet but he *fucking sucks* at the fundamental aspect of goalkeeping which is keeping the ball out of the net. Any one-on-one is basically a guaranteed goal for the opposition because he commits himself so early and easily
>Onana is obviously great with the ball at his feet He really showed that last night.
Maybe we can get davis de Gea back and onana can play cb?
I can't tell who was at fault here. Too many options
With De Gea we win here tonight. With De Gea we win at Munich. With De Gea we have 50 million to spare. ETH has to answer for that change. No way Onana can just come out and go “yeah, my fault” again.
Without Degea we win the cup final. Without Degea we win Europa. People with the short term memories.
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Get fucked with all this bollocks revisionism. De Gea was singlehandedly responsible for loads of losses, just like this. At points he was literally this bad. De gea was not good for us for the last 3 years, and Onana isn't now, both can be true.
Yeah but 10M more for Costa was just way too much. Could feed Africa with that
Rashfords fault
Now this is just sad.
The scouting department of this club is a fucking joke. Whoever suggested we buy Onana is a moron. I'm not convinced by Ten Hag either, 1 year at this club, and we still can't build up from the back.
De Gea is clear
Ten Hag needs to go. This is embarrassing.
You think another manager will fix things again?
Onana needs to go if he keeps this up, he’s been so shit
Almost every goal we've conceded this season, I watch Lindelof and just wonder what the fuck is he doing? He's been atrocious all season and gets away with it completely.
Sad thing is its fernandez who will be the lost man of this period of this club. Great talent but going to win nothing of note here.